Anonymous PLN Mastercard cards

[DeanC]

If you need some help please PM me (send me private message).

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[Kazimir]

How can I reload such a card?

And what if someone rips me off after I pay with this card, where do I go to claim a chargeback?

[Raoul Duke]

How can I reload such a card?

And what if someone rips me off after I pay with this card, where do I go to claim a chargeback?

And what about the seller keeping the cvv to himself and wait for funds to be loaded and rip you off?

[Cookie_Monster]

I question the anonymity aspect of the reloadable cards aside from the possibility of the OP knowing the number and CVV. I tried a reloadable Visa but to use it I needed to give Greendot my social security number and would have had to fax proof of residence (or something along those lines) i.e. bank statement, electric bill etc. So that wasn't what I would consider anonymous they ended up sending me a check for the balance I had loaded on the card.

I have since used a few non reloadable gift debit cards from AMEX and Visa without problems, only thing you need to tie to those cards is a zip code so that's not bad IMO.

[Raoul Duke]

OK, I'll take you up on your offer to send first.

1.9 BTC for a card denominated in EUR?

[malaimult]

not another anonymous card 
what platform this card uses? how can it be fund with money?
it has bank login?
real bank account?
etc

[malaimult]

how can this card be funded?

[Raoul Duke]

how can this card be funded?

It has an IBAN, so any wire transfer(SEPA or International) will do.

[l0ft]

Do these cards ever expire?

[zvs]

i coulda used one of these a month or two ago.  no need now, though

there are places (like entropay) where you can get these.  more like a gift card, really.  order a $50 visa, use up that $50, and it's done..  or at least I thought that's how it functioned.  i think it depended on if you got the 'instant' visa or the reloadable mastercard 

but, if you're in the USA, thx to the patriot act and UIGEA, you're shit out of luck

[Raoul Duke]

Just to update you guys that I made the deal with DeanC and will wait for the card to arrive and leave a review after I have it on my hands. I'll make sure to include pictures of the packaging so you guys can be assured that it's safe, or not.

Even if I'm not satisfied, after I get the card I'll still pay DeanC his 1.9 BTC.
DeanC said he will ship it tomorrow, so probably before the end of the week I'll update you guys on the situation.
Poland---->Portugal shouldn't take longer than 1 week.

[Kazimir]

Interesting experiment. I'll watch your feedback closely

[cyberlync]

watching

[bitdragon]

I have tried reading the auction site...
How much do I pay in fees to withdraw 200USD in an ATM?

3500 per year is not that much but I guess could come in handy..

[Kazimir]

I would also be interested in an anonymous card. DeanC, I don't have 1500 posts quite yet, just over a hundred at this moment. Nonetheless I'm not here to screw around (which I hope is also obvious from my various posts here on this forum). Would you allow me to test such a card as well?

Two questions:

• I can just send a SEPA payment to some polish bank number and that will put funds on the card, right?
• What is the card holder name, something random?

[Raoul Duke]

Just to update that I got the tracking number today.
There was a small delay as the cards nominated in EUR weren't available, so I preferred to wait for them to be available.

Will update again when I receive the card and send the payment to DeanC.

[Kazimir]

1) Yes. SEPA payment to your Anonymous Bank Number in Polish Bank.
2) Card holder name is: Prepaid Card. But when you pay with it you can pay as anything you want: eg John Smith or XXX YYZ.

Well please PM me. I will send 1 card for you. Please give me address to where I should ship.

Awesome. Sorry for the late reply, I didn't notice your post earlier. Just PM'ed you.

[wirmola]

very interesting, thinking of getting one..

[Kazimir]

Ok, I will ship it tomorrow. Please tell us here, when it arrives  

Best regards,
DeanC

Thanks man. Just got your PM, I will make sure to share my feedback here, for anyone who might be interested!

Some more questions:

• If I put 50 euro on the card (by transferring to the specified SEPA account), I assume I can spend € 50 with the card (minus any fees perhaps) and then it refuses further payments until I do another deposit, right?
  
  
• Can I submit a chargeback request anywhere? I don't intend to 'abuse' the card this way, but if I purchase something online and I'm having problems with it (with the product or service I mean, not the card), and the online shop or seller doesn't want to help me, is there anywhere I can go to? Or is that not possible with this type of card?
  
  
• If someone were to copy my card number + cvv code and makes unauthorized payments with it (i.e. steals from my card), can I cancel or refund such payments somehow? I trust myself with keeping the card details absolutely 100% safe, but of course I can never be sure about anyone I purchase from, or any store where I pay with this card.
  
  
• Is it possible / recommendable to make offline purchases with this card, i.e. pay in a restaurant etc? Or is the generic card name holder likely to raise questions?

[Eisenhower34]

Interesting ... but wont the bank ask sooner or later for a name with verification?

[Kazimir]

3) You need to keep your money safe by not letting anyone to know your numbers!

OK, sure, but when making online purchases, at some point during the payment procedure, I will have to enter my credit card details.

I never used a debit card before, only credit cards, but I assume they essentially work in the same way as far as the payment procedure is concerned, right? I mean, I order something, in the payment or checkout procedure I enter my credit card number (usually on some secure payment processor page, like PayPal or Google Checkout or Authorize.net or CCBill etc), they check with the bank (or whatever black magic they do) and if the card is valid and has enough funds, the payment is accepted.

But other than entering my card number + code when I need to make an actual payment, of course I am NEVER sharing the details with anyone.

[vampire]

It looks legit... You can buy yourself, but my polish is somewhat very limited

http://bank-zachodni-wbk.na.allegro.pl/karta-prepaid-walutowa-usd-wakacje-za-granica-i2380865416.html

[Raoul Duke]

It looks legit... You can buy yourself, but my polish is somewhat very limited

http://bank-zachodni-wbk.na.allegro.pl/karta-prepaid-walutowa-usd-wakacje-za-granica-i2380865416.html

They only accept registration from poland on that site. I really doubt they mail it to other countries, even if you fake an address for the registration. And if the bank mails it to your house, it's not very anonymous anymore, is it? lol

[vampire]

They only accept registration from poland on that site. I really doubt they mail it to other countries, even if you fake an address for the registration. And if the bank mails it to your house, it's not very anonymous anymore, is it? lol

Yep, can't register outside of Poland... Well I have a PO Box with a company address.. :-)

Well I'll try the VISA with USD balance, I need a chip and a pin card anyway.  It's somewhat annoying to use american cards in europe.

[DeanC]

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[Kazimir]

Hey, sorry to keep bothing you, but yet another question

If I transfer money to the polish bank account to fund my card, is there some way to see if the money already arrived?
Or rather, can I see my card's balance online somewhere?

(edit) oh, wait, it seems you already answered that here

[DeanC]

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[DeanC]

If you need some help please PM me (send me private message).

[zvs]

i prefer the non-reloadable visa's

go to entropay.com or something like that, you will see these

but you won't be able to get it if you're from the USA

(ed: actually, i think that's just neteller that totally bans USA.   entropay, you'd just have to give them all sorts of information, because of patriot act)

[Raoul Duke]

OK, I got my prepaid VISA on the mail today.
You guys can be sure that there is no good way for DeanC to get the CVV on the card without you noticing as he would have to open the envelope and leave marks.

Also, the PIN for ATM withdrawals can be changed online. Careful, you need Polish data to register, address and valid Social Security number. Ask me one and I can make one for you from your birth date

There are some fees attached with the card, for example, each ATM withdrawal will have a cost of €2.5.

DeanC, please post here or PM me a bitcoin address so I can send you the 1.9 BTC.

Nice doing business with you.

To all others: SERVICE RECOMMENDED.

[DeanC]

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[Raoul Duke]

pictures please ?

Pics will be posted later as I'm not home and can't take them out of my cell right now.
Also, need to blurr them before posting.

EDIT: Payment sent. tx id: fd1523db80719a8a2e404a22a55c0859f8b51f8d8d3e081beaa9e4cf90109b51

[m_yaw]

hmm, but isn't faking a polish social security number kind of illegal?
It seems to me that these cards are only meant for polish residents...

[Raoul Duke]

hmm, but isn't faking a polish social security number kind of illegal?
It seems to me that these cards are only meant for polish residents...

Oh, yeah... Chill out dude. I used a valid, most likely non-existant, SS number to bypass a registration form, I didn't get a job with it
Also, registration on the bank site isn't mandatory. I did it because I wanted to be able to consult the balance online.
Others are free to do as they wish. I'm not advocating you do the same, just describing my experience.

[crosby]

interesting..

[vampire]

pictures please ?

Pics will be posted later as I'm not home and can't take them out of my cell right now.
Also, need to blurr them before posting.

EDIT: Payment sent. tx id: fd1523db80719a8a2e404a22a55c0859f8b51f8d8d3e081beaa9e4cf90109b51

I'll post pics of my usd card, it's in the mail now. I assume I can receive sepa transfers? A friend of mine wants to send me money from UK using sepa.

[Raoul Duke]

Here are the pictures. Click for bigger images.

The envelope where it came(inside other envelope)


The back of the envelope


The envelope that carries the PIN code.


The card with the IBAN above

[Dansker]

Quite interesting, and weird that it is legal in a way...

[John (John K.)]

If I get an USD card from you, will I be able to fund it just like an US based bank account (ACH and so)?
I assume (from the posts above) that getting an Euro card will allow me to receive SEPA transfers, is that correct?

[DeanC]

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[btcash]

This card really exist but it is not working at the moment. I know a lot of people who can't withdrawal or spend money.

I would not order before this issue is resolved.

EDIT:

Can't really say because I'm yet to fund mine.
But I'll be selling some bitcoins today and do a transfer to the card account. in a couple days I can say if they work or not

You would be the only person with a working card.

The issue is definitely not solved.

[bitcats]

I take 2 EUR cards.

[Raoul Duke]

@btcash
There was a problem about a week ago. And it's gone.

VISA cards are working - just ask @psy.

Can't really say because I'm yet to fund mine.
But I'll be selling some bitcoins today and do a transfer to the card account. in a couple days I can say if they work or not

[chufchuf]

I also know a lot of people for whom these cards aren't working, but maybe that seller has decided to run...

[Raoul Duke]

I also know a lot of people for whom these cards aren't working, but maybe that seller has decided to run...

Aren't working in what sense exactly?
Anyway, I'll find tomorrow for sure as my SEPA transfer should be credited by then. I'll try an ATM withdrawal in Portugal and a 2Checkout payment on my registrar and tell you all about it

[vampire]

I also know a lot of people for whom these cards aren't working, but maybe that seller has decided to run...

Aren't working in what sense exactly?
Anyway, I'll find tomorrow for sure as my SEPA transfer should be credited by then. I'll try an ATM withdrawal in Portugal and a 2Checkout payment on my registrar and tell you all about it

Hey how do you the sepa transfer, a little confused with the european system? I think I need IBAN but I cant figure it out, I only have an account number.

ps. i got my card in us, less than a week shipping.

[Raoul Duke]

You just have to add PL to the beginning of the account number to get the IBAN.
The BIC/SWIFT code of the bank is: WBKPPLPP

[Raoul Duke]

OK, I got the SEPA transfer in the card. 24hrs since the money was transfered until it arrived on the card.

Now I'll be heading to the ATM and make an withdrawal and get back to you guys

EDIT: The withdrawal worked. € 150, which is the maximum daily limit for cash withdrawals.
The CC payment to my registrar also worked. Funded my account with € 100 to pay for some domains that are due soon.

This cards are the real deal, folks. Low limits, some fees, etc., but what matters is that they do work.

[vampire]

I will try, but I need to figure out the easy way of funding this account. Right now I signed up with paypal and they're sending a test transaction of few cents to it. Also a friend of mine owes me some money from London, and it would be easier for her to pay to IBAN than the US ABA system.

Now I need to test before I go to Canada next week where chip & pin cards are a norm.

[DeanC]

@vampire

ok

[chufchuf]

DeanC, what kind of an issue was there a week ago?

I'm trying to figure out if another provider I know that's claiming there's a problem is a scammer, if these cards can be locked by the bank, and if this is just a continuation from a year or so ago, when another polish provider did indeed close the accounts despite claiming he couldn't because he lacked access to the PINs.

Where can I contact a moderator in pm?

[bitcats]

I'm trying to figure out if another provider I know that's claiming there's a problem is a scammer, if these cards can be locked by the bank, and if this is just a continuation from a year or so ago, when another polish provider did indeed close the accounts despite claiming he couldn't because he lacked access to the PINs.

I dont understand anything you write. Could you decipher this post?

[DeanC]

@chufchuf

If you need some help please PM me (send me private message).

[Kazimir]

Update - I received my card today. Everything looks fine, the PIN code was in a sealed blind envelope. I didn't use the card yet (still have to deposit some money to the polish bank) but when I performed an actual payment I'll post the results.

One thing though, concerning anonymity: in order to collect the mail package, I had to identify myself. Now I managed to work around this with some 'trickery' (smooth talking), so I managed to get the letter without actually showing any ID, but not all postal services may be so sloppy Then again, I dunno if this is common policy everywhere, maybe it's just something of the particular P.O. Box postal service where I received the card.

[Raoul Duke]

You understand that you only had to sign for the package because it was registered mail and who sent you that mail was DeanC, don't you? lol

[DeanC]

If you need some help please PM me (send me private message).

[janbanan]

@DeanC I emailed you quite some time ago, but you haven't replied. I'd like a PLN card please.

[chufchuf]

I'm sorry DeanC, you seem like an honest seller, but these cards have a bad history. Either someone will do something illegal with your cards and the bank will block them all, or the bank itself is a cancer.

http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4814870&postcount=322

I think the above scenario is inevitable, so maybe it's good to warn you all, both DeanC and buyers.

[bitcats]

http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4814870&postcount=322

Who is haspro?

[Raoul Duke]

http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4814870&postcount=322

Who is haspro?

I would care more about stupid forum admins who block entire IP ranges... The talkgold admin just successfully kept 90% of the portuguese internet users out of his forum lol
But he doesn't block hidemyass.com which is a know proxy site. Very clever indeed

[chufchuf]

http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4814870&postcount=322

Who is haspro?

Really? Go to the top and click on the thread, he's the guy who opened the thread. Maybe he meant well or maybe he didn't read the TaC of the bank well enough.

[chufchuf]

http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4814870&postcount=322

Who is haspro?

I would care more about stupid forum admins who block entire IP ranges... The talkgold admin just successfully kept 90% of the portuguese internet users out of his forum lol
But he doesn't block hidemyass.com which is a know proxy site. Very clever indeed

lol, well that's surprising, there are few forums i've seen less moderated than that one, it's filled with scam threads where the starting poster wasn't banned or even signalled out by the admins

[Raoul Duke]

http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4814870&postcount=322

Who is haspro?

I would care more about stupid forum admins who block entire IP ranges... The talkgold admin just successfully kept 90% of the portuguese internet users out of his forum lol
But he doesn't block hidemyass.com which is a know proxy site. Very clever indeed

lol, well that's surprising, there are few forums i've seen less moderated than that one, it's filled with scam threads where the starting poster wasn't banned or even signalled out by the admins

I guess some portuguese went there to call out a scam and the admin didn't liked it, so he blocked us all out lol

[bitcats]

Sorry, I dont understand the context.
What has all this to do with the "Anonymous Instant Reloadable VISA card"?

[EhVedadoOAnonimato]

Limits are:
From the ATM you can withdraw up to 500pln or 150eur or 130gbp or 200usd per day.

And you can have up to 3000pln or 2500eur or 2100gbp or 3500usd at one time.

And you can have up to 10000pln or 2500eur or 2100gbp or 3500usd per yer per 1 card.

And per 1 day you can pay on the internet up to 500pln or 1000eur or 800gbp or 1300usd.

If the cards are truly anonymous, an individual may have as many cards as he wants. What's the point of these limits then?

[vampire]

I fucked a little with paypal, they only support accounts in PLN for polish accounts. When I did the verification steps, I didn't properly convert USD to PLN (was rushing) so they locked that transfer. But I did receive the tests amounts in my account using IBAN. With a PLN card you should have no problems getting paypal verified.

[Raoul Duke]

Limits are:
From the ATM you can withdraw up to 500pln or 150eur or 130gbp or 200usd per day.

And you can have up to 3000pln or 2500eur or 2100gbp or 3500usd at one time.

And you can have up to 10000pln or 2500eur or 2100gbp or 3500usd per yer per 1 card.

And per 1 day you can pay on the internet up to 500pln or 1000eur or 800gbp or 1300usd.

If the cards are truly anonymous, an individual may have as many cards as he wants. What's the point of these limits then?

Charging fees, that's the point of those limits lol

[Kazimir]

Yes, psy, you're right.

The postman was just trying to be sure - if he is delivering the package to right person. I've sent the package as "registered mail" because it's safe and they don't loose this type of letters.

So everything is OK.

Oh. Yeah, right. Sorry for the confusion

The Rachunek ('account') number on the letter, it's a 26-digit number starting with 06109etc. I guess I have to insert PL in front of that, and that's my IBAN number where I can send SEPA payments to put funds on my cards, correct?
Do I have to fill in any specific details with the payment description, or is it enough to just use the correct IBAN accont?

I also tried checking out the prepaid.bzwbk.pl site (with google translate) but I'm not 100% sure yet what to do. Any possibility you could write a short description of how to create an account there?

For my understanding: do I need to create an account there, before transferring funds? Or would I just need the account to be able to check the current funds online? (i.e. could I also transfer funds and use the card without creating an online account at all?)

[DeanC]

If you need some help please PM me (send me private message).

[bitcats]

Maybe this helps:

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/526/cardtut.jpg/

[Kazimir]

@Kazmir
1) Yes. PL...
where ... is the account number

Great. I also got the BIC aka SWIFT code ("WBKPPLPP" like you and Psy mentioned earlier).

Regarding the other info like account holder name & address: Can I fill in the bank's details here, as specified at the bottom of http://prepaid.bzwbk.pl/ ? I.e. that would be:

Account holder name = Bank Zachodni WBK S.A.
Address = Rynek 9/11
Zip code = 50-950
City = Wrocław

Or should I fill in something else for account holder name (also known as beneficiary name) ? Or just any random name
(note that I'm not referring to the description that I fill in along with the transaction, I really just mean the destination account details)

Sorry to keep asking extensive questions, just trying to get it real clear so I don't f*ck up

3) Yes I will try to prepare the Tutorial for that website

Awesome, thanks in advance!

[Kazimir]

Maybe this helps:

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/526/cardtut.jpg/

Ah! Great, yes that helps, thanks a lot sir!

[DeanC]

If you need some help please PM me (send me private message).

[Raoul Duke]

DeanC, can you please PM me when the EUR cards are available again?
Need 2 of them.

[bitcats]

Because this is true! And the tutorial - from bitcats looks nice. Except I would not input the fake data.
I would input what is true: CardHolder Because those cards are anonymous

But how can the card be anonymous if I put the correct cardholder name?

[DeanC]

If you need some help please PM me (send me private message).

[EhVedadoOAnonimato]

Wait, I hadn't paid enough attention, you can only load this card with a bank transfer (SEPA or other)? Not with bitcoins?

If that's the case, then it's definitely not anonymous. Bank transfers are never anonymous, they are always traceable....

[bitcats]

Wait, I hadn't paid enough attention, you can only load this card with a bank transfer (SEPA or other)? Not with bitcoins?

If that's the case, then it's definitely not anonymous. Bank transfers are never anonymous, they are always traceable....

No, there are ways I could show you.

[Raoul Duke]

Wait, I hadn't paid enough attention, you can only load this card with a bank transfer (SEPA or other)? Not with bitcoins?

If that's the case, then it's definitely not anonymous. Bank transfers are never anonymous, they are always traceable....

Choose an exchange which doesn't ask you for documents and do a SEPA transfer from there.
Remember, the limits on the card will never make you hit any AML requirements.

I charged mine completely anonymously, making a throw away account at an European exchange.
Going to refrain myself from saying which exchange it was, ofcourse.

[bitcats]

Going to refrain myself from saying which exchange it was, ofcourse.

Im sure you mean the ECB 

[vampire]

Itersango uses the same bank as these prepaid cards - Bank Zachnodni. There should be no AML for transfer between two accounts within the same bank.

[btcash]

MtGox is using them as well.

No one can or will block it.

That is no true. The bank can.
Haspro whole batch got blocked by the bank because of some fraud. The exact same thing can happen to you.

[m_yaw]

Itersango uses the same bank as these prepaid cards - Bank Zachnodni. There should be no AML for transfer between two accounts within the same bank.

Can we get a second opinion on this? Seems strange to me if AML would be not applicable for within-bank transfer!?

[magixx]

I think would be interested in one of these assuming I could make online payments. I would also be interested in buying a used one if someone did not want it anymore.

[TECSHARE]

Still waiting to hear back from you.

[DeanC]

If you need some help please PM me (send me private message).

[crosby]

USD cards went from 5 BTC to 10 BTC each ??

ouch

[zvs]

yeah, USA doesn't like these and crack down on them, because of gambling aspect and such.

[bitcats]

DeanC: You constantly change your prices. The previous prices were ok, but now you go too high.
Why 10 btc for an EUR/USD card? I would pay max 5 btc each.

[Raoul Duke]

Dean: You constantly change your prices. The previous prices were ok, but now you go too high.
Why 10 btc for an EUR/USD card? I would pay max 5 btc each.

Not even 5 BTC. Those 5 BTC when combined with the card limits and fees make it a very high % to pay for € 2500.
Now if you account for the fact that he's only selling PLN cards for 5 BTC, which you would have to pay an extra 2% or 3% because of the exchange when you wished to withdraw or pay EUR or USD, and it's completelly out of the question.

[bitcats]

Too bad. Still 2 weeks ago, it sounded promising.

[DeanC]

If you need some help please PM me (send me private message).

[Raoul Duke]

The card arrived today as registered mail. I couldn't accept it as I dont want the postman to register my identity card when i ordered an anonymous card.
So the card will be returned to sender 

Dude, you realise that DeanC already has your identity, right? The mail registration has nothing to do with the card or connected to it in any way...

[bitcats]

The point is that I dont want a postie to register my identity card.

[TECSHARE]

yep, no longer interested.

[vampire]

The card arrived today as registered mail. I couldn't accept it as I dont want the postman to register my identity card when i ordered an anonymous card.
So the card will be returned to sender 

Dude, you realise that DeanC already has your identity, right? The mail registration has nothing to do with the card or connected to it in any way...

Not my identity :-) Using a PO Box ftw.

I just funded my card with intersango - easy and fast.

[Raoul Duke]

The card arrived today as registered mail. I couldn't accept it as I dont want the postman to register my identity card when i ordered an anonymous card.
So the card will be returned to sender 

Dude, you realise that DeanC already has your identity, right? The mail registration has nothing to do with the card or connected to it in any way...

Not my identity :-) Using a PO Box ftw.

I just funded my card with intersango - easy and fast.

The postman only asked me to sign, which I did with a scribble. No ID asked.

[bitcats]

It depends where you live

[DeanC]

If you need some help please PM me (send me private message).

[jixapori]

Hi, I used bugmenot to login so don't contact me on this username.
I sell the same Visa cards from Poland, EUR currency, 3.5 bitcoins, at black market reloaded, you must use Tor software to access it.
my product listing: http://5onwnspjvuk7cwvk.onion/index.php?p=view_listing&id=4499

here are 2 photos:
http://5onwnspjvuk7cwvk.onion/user_files/big/9f4fa0dd1b7af10497eb960d2d713371.jpg
http://5onwnspjvuk7cwvk.onion/user_files/big/3bfe693722f6dc1f37151495bf66f407.jpg

Product Information
Anonymous (EUR) VISA Electron prepaid debit card with IBAN (from Poland).
If you want to get it in registered letter you should add 1.5 btc.

For FAQ visit forum topic (35 questions and answers): http://fec33nz6mhzd54zj.onion/viewtopic.php?id=722

If you want to register your Visa card online (at website of the bank), tutorial is here:
http://utovvyhaflle76gh.onion/sTORage/instructions.jpg

[bitcats]

Hi, I used bugmenot to login so don't contact me on this username.
I sell the same Visa cards from Poland, EUR currency, 3.5 bitcoins, at black market reloaded, you must use Tor software to access it.
my product listing: http://5onwnspjvuk7cwvk.onion/index.php?p=view_listing&id=4499

As these cards are already opened (uncovered), its too great a risk to use them.

@Dean: When will you get the EUR cards?

[riX]

These cards have been sold online for $19.99USD for a long time.. just google.
Also, you can even order them from the bank itself if you use google translate... 15 PLN each.

[jixapori]

I am agreed it is risky for online trade when someone knows card number and expiration date but it is not risky for using at ATM, for ATM only you have PIN code. so, it depends for what people decide to use it, those who want to cash out BTC at ATM, for them it is good. beside it, I didn't try to imitate sealed letter of the bank (mny customers would not know is it original or not) then I said honestly what is situation.

answer for rix: nobody can buy this cards from bank without address in poland. they send cards only to the address in poland. so, I have friend in poland and I got it through friend. I could not order it by myself, if I could, cards would be in sealed envelope and it would be easier for me to sell it.

[riX]

I am agreed it is risky for online trade when someone knows card number and expiration date but it is not risky for using at ATM, for ATM only you have PIN code. so, it depends for what people decide to use it, those who want to cash out BTC at ATM, for them it is good. beside it, I didn't try to imitate sealed letter of the bank (mny customers would not know is it original or not) then I said honestly what is situation.

answer for rix: nobody can buy this cards from bank without address in poland. they send cards only to the address in poland. so, I have friend in poland and I got it through friend. I could not order it by myself, if I could, cards would be in sealed envelope and it would be easier for me to sell it.

I got an unopened envelope directly from the bank.. ordered through one of the top google results..

[vampire]

I got an unopened envelope directly from the bank.. ordered through one of the top google results..

I got a sealed envelope from the OP.

[bitcats]

What is an OP?

[riX]

What is an OP?

Original Poster, aka. TS aka. Thread-Starter.

[bitcats]

I could not order it by myself, if I could, cards would be in sealed envelope and it would be easier for me to sell it.

Just ask your friend not to open the sealed envelopes.

[DeanC]

If you need some help please PM me (send me private message).

[bitcats]

I'm looking for reloadable EUR cards (sealed) from Poland? Can anybody help?

[Raoul Duke]

I'm looking for reloadable EUR cards (sealed) from Poland? Can anybody help?

Make that 2 of us.
I need at least 8 for now.

[DeanC]

If you need some help please PM me (send me private message).

[malaimult]

can someone that already used this cards explain what methods are available to topup the debit card? and also what are the daily weekly or monthly limits

[malaimult]

thank you i read the first 5 posts. the limits are very low. DeanC  is there a way to lift the limits to 5 or 6 digits?

[Raoul Duke]

thank you i read the first 5 posts. the limits are very low. DeanC  is there a way to lift the limits to 5 or 6 digits?

Identify yourself as a polsih citizen or resident. That's the way to do it.
Or buy several cards.

[bitcats]

Identify yourself as a polsih citizen or resident. That's the way to do it.

Are the limits different for polish citizens?
If yes how could i identify myself as a polsih citizen?

[riX]

Identify yourself as a polsih citizen or resident. That's the way to do it.

Are the limits different for polish citizens?
If yes how could i identify myself as a polsih citizen?

You need a PESEL number...

[DeanC]

If you need some help please PM me (send me private message).

[riX]

The limits are good

Go to the ATM at 23:59 and 00:01 Polish Warsaw time (check google for: time in warsaw)
and you can withdraw up to 1000 PLN - it's a lot

when you have 100 cards you can withdraw up to 1 000 000 PLN in one night = 299 832 U.S. dollars
isn't it a lot?

If limits are too low = you need more cards. It's that simple.

Price: 3btc each with free shipping. Everybody likes it. Really

As I told you in PM, being able to use the card online and in stores makes 500 PLN/tx a bit low.

[DeanC]

If you need some help please PM me (send me private message).

[bitcats]

But PLN cards are really very good

Yes but you have to pay almost 3% for each withdraw in EUR or USD (+ BTC exchanger fees, etc ...). So its better to use a polish EUR/USD card.

@ psy/riX: The limits of the card are the same with a PESEL

[riX]

But PLN cards are really very good

Yes but you have to pay almost 3% for each withdraw in EUR or USD (+ BTC exchanger fees, etc ...). So its better to use a polish EUR/USD card.

@ psy/riX: The limits of the card are the same with a PESEL

So are you saying I could get a pesel anonymously for registering? Otherwise I don't understand your point, I can get a card with no fees at all from my bank at home if I show id..

[DeanC]

If you need some help please PM me (send me private message).

[malaimult]

what are the load options? and can i load my card with international wire from US?

[vampire]

what are the load options? and can i load my card with international wire from US?

I think so. Just need to figure out SWIFT code and etc.

The easiest was Intersango's transfer

[riX]

what are the load options? and can i load my card with international wire from US?

Yes, you get an IBAN number. You can send from your bank or most exchanges.

[bitcats]

Why don't you take 1 card from me for as low as 1.7btc and try it?
Next prices depend on how many cards you will need

Can you send me 3 pekao cards for 1.7 btc each?

[DeanC]

If you need some help please PM me (send me private message).

[malaimult]

sorry DeanC  card seams ok but the 2500 eur/year etc limit it's way low for my needs

[riX]

sorry DeanC  card seams ok but the 2500 eur/year etc limit it's way low for my needs

Order more than one card.. I'm getting my eight soon
1,7 btc ~= 15 EUR just now, that equals 0,6% of 2500 EUR. You won't finder cheaper rates anywhere now.

[Grim Death]

PM sent

[DeanC]

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[DeanC]

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[2weiX]

can you please updated your first post with all the relevant info from the thread?

like this

EUR CARDS
Price: X BTC incl EU shipping
Withdrawal Limits: d/250€ w/1000€ y/5000€
Available: X of Y units

USD CARDS
Price: X BTC incl EU shipping
Withdrawal Limits: d/250$ w/1000$ y/5000$
Available: X of Y units

etc etc

i am pretty interested but hesitant to jump in because of lack of centralized info.

also - if i load up the cards, they're connected to my bank account so what's the deal?

[riX]

...

also - if i load up the cards, they're connected to my bank account so what's the deal?

You load them from a bitcoin exchange site.. The deal is not to be 100% anonymous and untraceable, it is that getting sums of money into your personal bank account will alert the bank.

[2weiX]

...

also - if i load up the cards, they're connected to my bank account so what's the deal?

You load them from a bitcoin exchange site.. The deal is not to be 100% anonymous and untraceable, it is that getting sums of money into your personal bank account will alert the bank.

if i am verified etc etc at that site, the funds can still be traced back.

[riX]

...

also - if i load up the cards, they're connected to my bank account so what's the deal?

You load them from a bitcoin exchange site.. The deal is not to be 100% anonymous and untraceable, it is that getting sums of money into your personal bank account will alert the bank.

if i am verified etc etc at that site, the funds can still be traced back.

Yes of course, so don't be verified if you want anonymity.. If you plan on doing stuff worse than tax evasion, you need more precautions than these cards.

[DeanC]

If you need some help please PM me (send me private message).

[sauc1er]

If the issueing bank is WBK stay the hell away!
! have like 10 cards, 7 unused, 3 with a total of 2000USD but I cannot withdraw!
I got them from a reputable vendor, there is a long thread on the talkgold forums. I might even have to fly to Poland or/and get a lawyer there to get my money back

[bitcats]

I intended to buy a few cards from wbk. Now i m skeptikal 
Could you give us a few details: Vendor, cards in EUR or USD, what exactly happened?

[riX]

If the issueing bank is WBK stay the hell away!
! have like 10 cards, 7 unused, 3 with a total of 2000USD but I cannot withdraw!
I got them from a reputable vendor, there is a long thread on the talkgold forums. I might even have to fly to Poland or/and get a lawyer there to get my money back

Do you have any more info about this? Were you able to withdraw anything at all at first? What did the bank tell you when you contacted them?

[Raoul Duke]

If the issueing bank is WBK stay the hell away!
! have like 10 cards, 7 unused, 3 with a total of 2000USD but I cannot withdraw!
I got them from a reputable vendor, there is a long thread on the talkgold forums. I might even have to fly to Poland or/and get a lawyer there to get my money back

Details, please. Like, which country are you in?
My card is working perfectly.

[DeanC]

If you need some help please PM me (send me private message).

[epiks]

So if I bought a USA card and added it to my online poker account, I would have to add the bank info with my name/address..since there is no name/addy attached to it, would it just accept mine? I know on VCCs and stuff they work with any name/address . is it the same with this? Or do you actually give a name/address at time of sign up?

[bitcats]

So if I bought a USA card and added it to my online poker account, I would have to add the bank info with my name/address..since there is no name/addy attached to it, would it just accept mine? I know on VCCs and stuff they work with any name/address . is it the same with this? Or do you actually give a name/address at time of sign up?

It works with any name.

[dsky]

Can someone explain the fee system for that EUR cards?

That pdf file on the bank page is not really readable after translation.

Can someone (maybe psy?) show a calculation of his transfers?

Lets say we sell btc worth exact 150 EUR and SEPA them to the VISA card.
What will be the ammount of EUR we can have in our hands in cash when we withdraw the ammount on an atm outside of poland (still inside EU)?

Thanks!

[bitcats]

You have to pay:

• the intersango fees: 0,65% (trade fee) + 1.23 EUR (withdraw)
• the polish bank fees: 2-3%
• the atm fees (cash group): 1,95 EUR

http://www.gelon.de/geldautomat-gebuehren/

[Raoul Duke]

To withdraw € 150 from an ATM on the Eurozone you pay €2.5, so you would need a € 152.5 balance to withdraw €150.

Do your math when sending money.
If you withdraw paper cash on other currency than euros you'll be charged conversion fees.

[bitcats]

"To withdraw € 150 from an ATM on the Eurozone you pay €2.5"
It depends on who is the ATM owner and what kind of card you use. The "cashgroup" ATMs have lower fees.

[Raoul Duke]

"To withdraw € 150 from an ATM on the Eurozone you pay €2.5"
It depends on who is the ATM owner and what kind of card you use. The "cashgroup" ATMs have lower fees.

I'm talking about using an EUR card exactly the same as DeanC sells to withdraw money on an ATM that dispenses EUR currency.
The ATM's have no saying on the fees value. Fees are fixed by the bank/VISA.

[dsky]

So there is no other fee for receiving Euros via SEPA?

My math would be Intersango 0,65% (trade fee) + 1.23 EUR (withdraw) SEPA to VISA + 2.50€ ATM fee.

That would make this offer really really interesting...
You would need 17 days with a daily withdraw to get to the 2500€ yearly max.
Lets see how long these cards work.

[bitcats]

So there is no other fee for receiving Euros via SEPA?

My math would be Intersango 0,95% (trade fee) + 1.23 EUR (withdraw) SEPA to VISA + 2.50€ ATM fee.

In your math, you have to add some bank charges of the polish bank.

[riX]

I have noticed that bzwbk keeps the deposit in PLN even if it's a EUR card, since the balance varies even if there is no transactions..

[Raoul Duke]

I have noticed that bzwbk keeps the deposit in PLN even if it's a EUR card, since the balance varies even if there is no transactions..

Never seen that on my card.

[riX]

I have noticed that bzwbk keeps the deposit in PLN even if it's a EUR card, since the balance varies even if there is no transactions..

Never seen that on my card.

I had 776.56 and then the next day it was 776.48. Might be some fee, but I'm sure I didn't buy anything. I haven't compared it with the EURPLN exchange rate but what else could it be?

[DeanC]

If you need some help please PM me (send me private message).

[riX]

A question about the pekao card: I'm having problems with the SMS balance check, I'm not getting any reply. Is it working for anyone else? (Outside Poland).

DeanC: I'm not in need of cards right now, I'll get back to you when I am.

[Raoul Duke]

I would not recommend anyone to buy these cards from DeanC,

Me and dean settled on 6 BTC for 2 cards which I sent and extra, without asking, for shipping. I PM 2 days later asking what up and he tells me there is a holiday and cant ship til monday, he offers 1 extra card and I said no because I seriously doubt he has any in stock, if he told me about this prior I would have gladly waited but there was no mention of delay

He claims he is a good seller so this is why I a here, He is the very opposite of reliable and lacks in communication when its necessary, If you wanna spend money and wait for a week for excuses use DeanC,

I think you should have taken his offer of 1 extra card

[DeanC]

If you need some help please PM me (send me private message).

[riX]

Is anyone going to visit London Bitcoin Conference = bitcoin2012.com ?

Sure, I've got tickets, I just hope the people who are angry about bitcoinica doesn't try to ruin it..

[riX]

A question about the pekao card: I'm having problems with the SMS balance check, I'm not getting any reply. Is it working for anyone else? (Outside Poland).

DeanC: I'm not in need of cards right now, I'll get back to you when I am.

Update: the SMS check started working, I had to buy something first, just loading the card seems to not have activated the balance check function. It takes almost an hour to get an answer though.

[BitMonkey]

So does this work for US citizens?

[DeanC]

If you need some help please PM me (send me private message).

[dsky]

And how are things working out for the buyers of these cards? Everything still fine?

[phantitox]

i live in Venezuela, its  possible to get one of this cards?

[bitcats]

And how are things working out for the buyers of these cards? Everything still fine?

I bought a few PLN cards. Received them 2 days ago. I have to make a test transfer now to see if they work.
I think that they are fine. Thanks to DeanC for the good deal 

[bitcats]

From the ATM you can withdraw up to 500 pln or 150 eur per day.
And you can have up to 3000 pln or 2500 eur at one time.
And you can have up to 10000 pln or 2500 eur per yer per 1 card.

@DeanC:
Could you tell me what will happen, if i put 2500 EUR on the card acc (SEPA) and the next day i send again 1000 EUR to the card acc. This would be 3500 EUR in total.

One more question: If i dont register the card, is there a way to know the available funds (balance)?

[loadrs2009]

he sent me 2 cards he is nice and trusted i will buy from him more

[DeanC]

If you need some help please PM me (send me private message).

[bitcats]

2) Yes, you can - by sending the SMS to the number which is specified in the instructions for your card (inside the envelope -

Does it also work with German phone numbers?
Does it work with both Pekao and WPK Bank?

Thanks

[DeanC]

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[loadrs2009]

bro i me waiting for my card i didnt get till now   

[DeanC]

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[loadrs2009]

@DeanC

it take ages and i want to ask i have limited Paypal can i use it to withdraw with it ,

Thanks

[DeanC]

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[dsky]

Is it clever to load a PLN Card with PLN and withdraw EUR?
- or is it better to load the card with EUR, too?

[DeanC]

If you need some help please PM me (send me private message).

[loadrs2009]

Got the card thanks bro just want to ask if i have USA paypal account can i use the card with it ??  i me going to buy more card

[DeanC]

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[dsky]

I got my Pekao Card. I have registered it and was able to logon yesterday.

Today i wanted to check my balance but i don`t understand this password field...

My Password i`ve set has 11 chars. The password field has 16 digits and some are greyed out.
When i enter my password chars that are not greyed out, the logon page always says that char 12 can not be empty....

Any idea on that? Really don`t want to use that sms thing.

[danieldaniel]

Its easy:
If you passw is "fuckjesus" and the field shows [ ][ ][ ][ ][-][-][-][ ][ ]
than you enter: fuck---us

I see what you did there.  "fuck us".

[dsky]

The problem was that my password has 11 chars and the box stated that box 12 cannot be empty...

When i put my correct cardnumber in the logon field it works now. So it was my fault.

I have sent out my first cash via sepa. Lets see how long it takes to arrive on the card.

[dsky]

SEPA from Intersango took 2 days.

I sent 167.98 EUR (-0,65%=166,89€ -1,23€=165,66€ )to the card and got 666,34 zł (=161,5577€).
2,54% for currency exchange. I guess the 0,04% is movement on the PLN/EUR market.
I would sepa PLN to the card, but the PLN/BTC exchange rate is always >3% behind the EUR/BTC market.


I`ve tried to withdraw 150€ from an atm in germany - that doesn`t work.
So the 500 PLN limit is calculated live - means the maximum you can withdraw with a pln card is 120~125€.

I withdrawed 100€ from the atm - that worked.

The withdraw is already on the card with -431,83 PLN (=104,76€ / rest on the card 234,51 PLN).

[ajk]

I also received PLN card, works in US I can vouch for the pekao bank cards,

[ricklandman]

On request of TS removed and replaced by a new thread

[DeanC]

If you need some help please PM me (send me private message).

[bitcats]

@ricklandman
Those are probably PEKAO cards too - which I have here cheaper.
 

Cheaper than 10 Euro/card?

[DeanC]

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[loadrs2009]

i want to buy 2 card that i can withdraw from USA paypal account

[DeanC]

If you need some help please PM me (send me private message).

[libertycapking]

ive ordered the polish bank one of these. can someone explain if i go on intersango for example. when you go to SEPA transfer (which i presume is how you send your cash to the card) doesnt it ask for name n addresse so wot u put?

[DeanC]

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[DeanC]

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[secure_data]

Anyone else have problem with link this card into PayPal account?

I got this error message >

Code:

"This credit card has been denied by the bank that issued your credit card. For details on why your card was denied, please contact your credit card issuer's customer service department. Or, you may want to try adding a different credit card." 

 

[Raoul Duke]

Anyone else have problem with link this card into PayPal account?

I got this error message >

Code:

"This credit card has been denied by the bank that issued your credit card. For details on why your card was denied, please contact your credit card issuer's customer service department. Or, you may want to try adding a different credit card." 

 

Paypal needs to charge your credit card with €1. If you never made a SEPA transfer to fund the card, ofcourse it will be denied.

[secure_data]

Thank you for answer, I charged it now.
So I will be in touch with updates about this.

[libertycapking]

i just got this polish WBK card . pin number included with it. do i need to txt to activate it?

[Raoul Duke]

i just got this polish WBK card . pin number included with it. do i need to txt to activate it?

No. It's ready to work.

[libertycapking]

cheers psy i sent you some annoying msgs where i ramble on sorry bout that mate.peace

[libertycapking]

oh and does it matter wot currency i put on it from intersango?

[DeanC]

If you need some help please PM me (send me private message).

[libertycapking]

so i can go on intersango sell my btc to euros then SEPA to my card?

can i make up any name, address, city, postcode, do they have to be from poland or can i make u.k one up? also every time i do SEPA transfer do i use same details.
also what is the BIC?
thanks for your help guys!

Your full name
Street address
City
Postal code
IBAN
BIC
Amount

[DeanC]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Bank_Account_Number

SWIFT PEKAO: PKOPPLPW
SWIFT BZ WBK: WBKPPLPP

[loadrs2009]

can i ask what is BIC number ?

thanks

[Raoul Duke]

can i ask what is BIC number ?

thanks

For BZ WBK is: WBKPPLPP

[secure_data]

Thank you for answer, I charged it now.
So I will be in touch with updates about this.

Here again.
So after charging EUR card, paypal have no problem with accepting the card. (Thanks psy) I had to wait maybe one week for 4digit code to appears in History of transactions... but today i get it.
So everything worked well and from today "You've raised your account limits and become Verified, thank you! By confirming your card, you just raised your account limits and became a Verified member of PayPal. We'll refund all charges into your PayPal account within 24 hours." Also i have no problem with withdrawing from any ATM or paying in shops.

I highly recommend DeanC, he's a pro-seller with best product.

[DeanC]

nice to hear so, secure_data

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[loadrs2009]

The given password is incorrect.
WWW service has been blocked. In order to unblock
the service, please contact Card Service Center.

Check the card balance is also possible in Bank Pekao SA ATMs,
via SMS service or via Card Service Center.


how to unblock

[DeanC]

1) Please contact me via PM
2) Why did you input incorrect password?
3) You don't need online service to use the card - at all
4) you can contact Polish Bank (in english too) and talk to them

[loadrs2009]

he is best Mastercard cards seller i me happy with his service

[tonto]

Some general questions which I haven't really seen answered per se.  Could someone answer each one directly since there are likely others thinking the same things:
 
1. If someone gets a USD one, is it possible to reload using MtGox?  If so, could an explanation be given how?  (I know we can through other exchanges, but this is currently my single option at the moment)
2. Can these be used in the same manner as one would typically use another credit card?  Specifically, I wish to order some gun parts (legal to do where I live - even with credit card), but if the Credit Card is linked to something/someone in Poland, would that cause issues?
3. Are any of you reputable users of these cards in Europe willing to reload for someone in exchange for bitcoins?   I live in the U.S. so to avoid the hassle I'd be willing to look into the option of someone loading for me for a small (bit coin) fee in addition to the bitcoins for the amount to reload.
 

#2 is the most important item to me at the moment.

[bitcats]

3. Are any of you reputable users of these cards in Europe willing to reload for someone in exchange for bitcoins?   I live in the U.S. so to avoid the hassle I'd be willing to look into the option of someone loading for me for a small (bit coin) fee in addition to the bitcoins for the amount to reload.

Why dont you load it with mtgox cashout?

[tonto]

3. Are any of you reputable users of these cards in Europe willing to reload for someone in exchange for bitcoins?   I live in the U.S. so to avoid the hassle I'd be willing to look into the option of someone loading for me for a small (bit coin) fee in addition to the bitcoins for the amount to reload.

Why dont you load it with mtgox cashout?

Like a bank transfer?  What option(s), specifically, would let me refund these cards if i didn't first go to the site ahead of time to register myself?

[bitcats]

What option(s), specifically, would let me refund these cards if i didn't first go to the site ahead of time to register myself?

?
 Could you translate this for me?

[DeanC]

@tonto

You should use Mtgox.com with Polish (PLN) currency. It should work well.
You can contact me via PM too


If you need some help please PM me (send me private message).

[tonto]

What option(s), specifically, would let me refund these cards if i didn't first go to the site ahead of time to register myself?

?
 Could you translate this for me?

Haha, yeah that doesn't read very well does it?    What I meant to say is, what option(s) in MtGox would let me transfer money to the account that the card is associated with as easily as possible (to fund it), and without (hopefully) me having to register on some website in Poland?

[DeanC]

If you need some help please PM me (send me private message).

[bitcats]

@Dean
Do you know what is the max. amount (limit) to withdraw on Mtgox without the requirement of an ID verification?

[DeanC]

@bitcats

Yes. I know.
"Daily withdrawal limit (24hrs): 1,000 USD (or equivalent)
Monthly withdrawal limit: 10,000 USD (or equivalent) "

https://support.mtgox.com/entries/20919111-aml-account-statuses

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[libertycapking]

Ive got one of these PLN WBK cards how do you do bank transfer from you online banking if you dont have sort code??

[libertycapking]

can you connect a normal paypal account to this card?

[dangelus]

Just another big thumbs up from another satisfied DeanC customer.

Ordered a PLN card on late Thursday PM and it was here Tuesday. Have logged into the web portal provided with the card and am going through the process of converting my BTC to PLN before making the transfer.

Will report back on my expected success in the coming days, but so far, so very good.

Cheers Dean!

[DeanC]

@libertycapking
Please contact me via PM.

If you need some help please PM me (send me private message).

[libertycapking]

No worries worked all the bank transfer buisness out. will try paypal and let you know, thanks.

[dangelus]

Quick Q for dean or anyone else who has bought / used these cards.

How long does it take for a SEPA withdrawal from MtGox to Pekao? Thought it was a 24 hour job, but I'm beginning to suspect otherwise...

[Raoul Duke]

Quick Q for dean or anyone else who has bought / used these cards.

How long does it take for a SEPA withdrawal from MtGox to Pekao? Thought it was a 24 hour job, but I'm beginning to suspect otherwise...

It takes 24hrs maximum AFTER MtGox effectively does the transfer. They may let it sit for days before doing it, ofcourse.

[sirjocky]

I want to buy some of these cards. do you have skype as well? PM me your skype nick!

do they come with bank account?

[DeanC]

@sirjocky

I replied to you via PM.


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[sirjocky]

Ok i buy one.

[dangelus]

Well, I just got my money returned from Mt Gox.

They are saying that I have to have a Polish address to be able to process the request, otherwise I can use an International Wire.

Could anyone recommend an exchange that will get this lovely card ticking over for me? 

[bitcats]

Well, I just got my money returned from Mt Gox.

They are saying that I have to have a Polish address to be able to process the request, otherwise I can use an International Wire.

Could anyone recommend an exchange that will get this lovely card ticking over for me?  

https://bitcoin-24.com ?

[dangelus]

Thanks bitcats. Gave them a try, but funked up my login and there is no password reset button. Doh.

Going to try bitstamp but does anyone know the BIC code for these cards?

I had a look on one of the websites that list them, but there are several, one it seems for each branch. Unless I am missing it, I can't see which branch the card is tied to.

[dangelus]

Guessing it is PKOPPLPWXXX, in reply to myself...

[bitcats]

PKOPPLPW is correct (PEKAO Bank)

[DeanC]

If you need some help please PM me (send me private message).

[bitcats]

If get one of these in PLN can I use in UK? Will it just do exchange rate at time of sale to convert to GBP?

Can they be funded with SEPA transfer or only polish zloty? If zloty do you know if i can transfer direct from intersango to this card without needng a polish bank account?

You can use them in UK and load them by SEPA in EUR, GBP or PLN but the exchange loss (conversion rate) is quite high.
You can withdraw from intersango to the card (within the card limits) and you dont need a bank account.

[dangelus]

Just thought I'd chime in here also.

I spend much time in the UK and have bought one of DeanC's cards to see if it is a option for future use.

Delivery was very quick. Dean sent it Friday and I think I got it the following Tuesday or Wednesday. The card envelope was sealed with all the relevant information inside.

I ran into difficulties in getting the card loaded, but this was due to the exchange I chose to use (Mt Gox). Though their support guys were very helpful, Gox refunded my Zloty's in full as they wouldn't process my request without a Polish address.

Hmmm.... "Bullshit" I thought to myself, since this is SEPA, a system for inter-European transfers.

A couple of posts back here (thanks Bitcats!) and some further exploration reveals that there are many exchanges outside of MtGox and Intersango that will do what I require.

With the new exchange located, I placed the withdrawal request on late Wednesday PM and it confirmed loaded onto the card by 12pm Friday.

One quick trip to the atm and I was holding some fresh GBP.

About to do some work on a spreadsheet to figure out how financially viable this method is, but no doubt, it is on the expensive side.

The flip side is that these could be a real godsend in a pinch. Will be ordering more post Christmas if they are still about.


/salute DeanC

[chrcoe01]

just finished reading through all of this thread, interesting stuff for sure!

I am kicking around the idea myself, anyone who uses it in US able to give a bit more detail on how useful it is?  It seems to be purely a way to get money from an ATM basically.  Is it useful to pay bills and such or is that a bad idea?

[DeanC]

If you need some help please PM me (send me private message).

[btct]

@chrcoe01
It works in US correctly. I think you would like it if you try 1.

/

I still offer PLN cards for as low as 1.7btc. Or send me your best offer via PM.
First "card for a try" for 1.3btc with free shipping.

[DeanC]

If you need some help please PM me (send me private message).

[libertycapking]

Ok so had one of these WBK cards for a month or 2 no problems withdrawing. transfered some money to it the other day but lost my fake polish, name, addres e.t.c. so made another. money has showed up in my account, but cant withdraw, reckon ive been blocked?tried couple of ATMS. anywya round this. can i register my WBK card online and bank transfer the funds out?
any help appreicted
regards

[johnniewalker]

I question the anonymity aspect of the reloadable cards aside from the possibility of the OP knowing the number and CVV. I tried a reloadable Visa but to use it I needed to give Greendot my social security number and would have had to fax proof of residence (or something along those lines) i.e. bank statement, electric bill etc. So that wasn't what I would consider anonymous they ended up sending me a check for the balance I had loaded on the card.

I have since used a few non reloadable gift debit cards from AMEX and Visa without problems, only thing you need to tie to those cards is a zip code so that's not bad IMO.

AMEN

[bitcats]

Ok so had one of these WBK cards for a month or 2 no problems withdrawing. transfered some money to it the other day but lost my fake polish, name, addres e.t.c. so made another. money has showed up in my account, but cant withdraw, reckon ive been blocked?tried couple of ATMS. anywya round this. can i register my WBK card online and bank transfer the funds out?
any help appreicted
regards

what do you mean by "you made another"? You registered a new card or a new fake name for the same card?

[libertycapking]

I created a new name, address e.t. c for the card that ive been withdrawing from. ive since discovered this isnt the problem as ive had another wbk card arrived, transfered money to it and  it shows the balance, but like on the other card. i cant withdraw. this is from an atm ive always used. either this atm is blocking these cards now and i need to try another atm. or wkb are blocking these cards in u.k. anyone else in u.k able to withdraw?
regards

[bitcats]

Did you try another atm? Can you still use it for online shopping?

[libertycapking]

tried another atm today. still cudnt withdraw. very strange. this was my way to cash out bitcoin. anyone know any other way?
ive never used these cards to purchase online, can you use anywhere, amazon, e.t.c.?
also never actauly used these to pay in store. do they work everywhere?

[zoroaster]

I desperately need some of these cards. I've sent DeanC several PMs however he doesn't seem to reply me. DeanC, are you there?? If so, please drop me a message so we can discuss it. Thanks!

[b!z]

I desperately need some of these cards. I've sent DeanC several PMs however he doesn't seem to reply me. DeanC, are you there?? If so, please drop me a message so we can discuss it. Thanks!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=39456

Last Active:   December 12, 2012, 11:24:32 AM

Appears he was kidnapped by FBI or something similar.

[libertycapking]

Interesting development. used the cards to pay in store and succesfuly used online for payments. so i can use the balance up just strange i cant withdraw. for the guy looking to get this cards. their on silkroad, thats where i get them

[Axios]

I haven't used of the card for some time and today I am not able to use it online. I was able to do some few months ago.

I logged in to the web interface and everything looks fine. Weird. May be some issue with the bank.

[Raoul Duke]

I haven't used of the card for some time and today I am not able to use it online. I was able to do some few months ago.

I logged in to the web interface and everything looks fine. Weird. May be some issue with the bank.

Funny, was trying yesterday to empty the remainings(€18.2) of one my cards on switchpoker and it also didn't go trough.

[Axios]

Tried to send a bank request from here:

https://prepaid.bzwbk.pl/kontakt.html

The form got stuck with a spinning wheel.. I think the bank's employees are out for holidays :-)

[DeanC]

Holiday season here, people I'm good

As always:
If you need some help please PM me (send me private message).
The banks are working good.

English website:
https://www.prepaid.pekao24.pl/ClientLogonUKIPS.html

[libertycapking]

i reckon the bank has had issues as i found an ATM the other day which let me withdraw finaly! so can use ATM, shop online and in store fine. just need to try a few ATM'S, some dont let you withdraw let alone check your balance.
i recomend buying the WBK cards from silkroad. really quick delivery

[bitcats]

i recomend buying the WBK cards from silkroad. really quick delivery

Why not from DeanC ?

[libertycapking]

im sure deanc is very reliable but on silk road you can open a dispute if it doesnt arrive and he sells peako cards and dont know if there as good

[bitcats]

im sure deanc is very reliable but on silk road you can open a dispute if it doesnt arrive and he sells peako cards and dont know if there as good

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=96180.msg1425260#msg1425260

[libertycapking]

i think theres confusion im not knocking dean c in anywya i have not bought form him lots of people have and its all been good feedback so obvs buy from himk i just saying the ones i got are from silk road. ive only got wbk cards and never had probs. i dont know if the peako cards are just as good so sorry if ive offended anyone.

[DeanC]

I still offer PLN cards (which work with EUR and USD too)
For as low 1.7btc

First card - for a try - just 1.3btc

Please PM me if you have any questions

[anonymous_acc]

Is there virtual version with e-banking?

[DeanC]

Yes, there is nice let's call it "e-banking" website where you can check your card balance and details for free - in english
https://www.prepaid.pekao24.pl/ClientLogonUKIPS.html

if you need 1 - please PM me


I still offer PLN cards (which work with EUR and USD too)
For as low 1.5btc [regular]

First card - for a try - just 1.3btc

Please PM me if you have any questions

PROMOTION / special offer:
1st card with free shipping for as low as 1.1btc
only 2 of 8 left

[alex_fun]

Do they come with any random name and billing address? Seems very cheap for truly anon cards  Sepa transfer to top them up and anon card?

As far as I am aware anon card with wmz, lr or btc top capabilites and random name and billing address and say 2 to 5 years validity is worth not less than 300 usd to start with

[DeanC]

Do they come with any random name and billing address? Seems very cheap for truly anon cards  Sepa transfer to top them up and anon card?

As far as I am aware anon card with wmz, lr or btc top capabilites and random name and billing address and say 2 to 5 years validity is worth not less than 300 usd to start with

Well you can register them on Anonymous name or just use "as is" - because there is no registration required
Yes, Regular IBAN / sepa transfer
If you want to try 1 just PM me

regular: 1.5btc for 1 anonymous mastercard prepaid card
promotion - first card for a try - for as low as:
1.1btc with free shipping

[throtmax]

That mean PLN Mastercard?

Thanks.

[DeanC]

yes, PLN MasterCard
which work with EUR, USD or any currency
fee is about 2-3%

regular: 1.2btc for 1 anonymous mastercard prepaid card
promotion - first card for a try - for as low as:
1btc with free shipping

[DeanC]

OK, New promotion!
I sell the PLN mastercards (anonymous) at just 0.7 BTC each with free shipping

PLN currency Mastercards - you can withdraw any currency you like at 2-3% fee at ATM.
I suggest: Mtgox.com or pln.bitcurex.com to trade PLN/BTC at very good rates

Every card has IBAN to load it. Cards are new and sealed with PIN inside.
Limits:
about 2300eur/year
about 130eur/atm per day

SWIFT: PKOPPLPW
website in ENG with some FAQ:
https://www.prepaid.pekao24.pl/ClientLogonUKIPS.html

If you're interested - please PM me

[Raoul Duke]

OK, New promotion!
I sell the PLN mastercards (anonymous) at just 0.7 BTC each with free shipping

That's not a promotion, that called "adjusting prices to reflect the exchange rate".

[DeanC]

Well, do you consider:
0.5btc each card with free shipping
and BUY 2 get 1 FREE as a good promotion?

[Raoul Duke]

Well, do you consider:
0.5btc each card with free shipping
and BUY 2 get 1 FREE as a good promotion?

Now, that's a promotion!

[DeanC]

I've got only about 14 cards left. Please PM me if you're interested

[PatMan]

Payment & details sent, awaiting confirmation.

Cheers my man 

Peace.

[saddambitcoin]

great service!  my card had 20,00 PLN (approx 6 USD) already loaded on it, was not expecting that! 

[bitcats]

great service! my card had 20,00 PLN (approx 6 USD) already loaded on it, was not expecting that! 

My card already had 9999 PLN loaded (2500 EUR)

[DeanC]

I've got only about 12 cards left. Please PM me if you're interested

Price: 0.5btc each + free shipping
buy 2 get 1 free

[eldentyrell]

I ordered three of these cards and I have been very happy with them.

One note: you cannot use them to buy gasoline in the USA via pay-at-the-pump devices.  The gasoline pump will ask for your ZIP code (postal code), and the cards don't have a USA-formatted code associated with them.  You can usually go to the attendant and have them run the card manually.

Other than that they work great.

[nickkilla]

I ordered 5 cards from DeanC and while it seems Poland post is slow, DeanC got them in the mail the next day and they arrived. Quite happy with service.

[libertycapking]

dean or anyone how to you connect your paypal to mthe wbks. please dont say pm me dean lol

[DeanC]

@libertycapking
Probably you need to choose Poland as your country on PayPal, if you tried with other country and it didn't work that way.
I can send you polish mobile phone number (SIM) for free - at just a shipping cost Please specify a little bit more what you need and what the problem with PayPal is? If there is still any.

//
I sell the PLN mastercards (anonymous) at just 0.45 BTC each with free shipping
Promotion: BUY 2 GET 1 FREE

PLN currency Mastercards - you can withdraw any currency you like at 2-3% fee at ATM.
I suggest: Mtgox.com or pln.bitcurex.com to trade PLN/BTC at very good rates

Every card has IBAN to load it. Cards are new and sealed with PIN inside.
Limits:
about 2300eur/year
about 130eur/atm per day

SWIFT: PKOPPLPW
website in ENG with some FAQ:
https://www.prepaid.pekao24.pl/ClientLogonUKIPS.html

If you're interested - please let me know via PM

[PatMan]

I got two of these from DeanC and am very happy with them. As someone said above, he got them to me tracked delivery within 3 days too - great service DeanC - many thanks. Will defo have some more when these run out.

Peace brother.

[DeanC]

I've got only about 9 PLN cards left. Please PM me if you're interested

Price: 0.5btc each + free shipping
buy 2 get 1 free


NEWS:
There are 9 more cards available: USD /  EUR /  GBP VISA BZ WBK
1.1btc each card with free shipping
buy 3 get 1 free

[MagicBit15]

Interesting ... but wont the bank ask sooner or later for a name with verification?

Nope, Welcome to Poland!!

Note: These are the cards that are limited per year no? Like after 3500, You cannot use it anymore? I remember because people trade them on SR, and is used for a lot of gambling stuff.

Like if you wanted to play on partypoker but live in the US and play on a VPN. Simple deposit whatever method, and withdraw on the bank card. Throw away when done, Rinse and repeat. See it as way more of a hassle then it is worth though. Very interesting though, let us know how it goes, I have always been curious!!

[DeanC]

The bank want no names. The cards are anonymous


NEW PRICES:
I've got only about 7 PLN cards left. Please PM me if you're interested Smiley

Price: 0.36btc each + free shipping
buy 2 get 1 free


NEWS:
There are 6 more cards available: USD /  EUR /  GBP VISA BZ WBK
0.9btc each card with free shipping
buy 3 get 1 free

[wolfman]

DeanC's cards are ok. I got 3 of them two weeks ago (1 gratis) and they work fine.
Thanks man!

[DeanC]

I've got only 7 PLN = bank PEKAO cards left. Please PM me if you're interested Smiley

Price: 0.36btc each + free shipping
buy 2 get 1 free


NEWS:
There are 6 more cards available: USD /  EUR /  GBP = VISA BZ WBK
1 btc each card with free shipping
buy 3 get 1 free

[chrcoe01]

what's the difference between your PLN cards and the other, more expensive ones?  It was my understanding the PLN cards would still work with USD ATMs from looking at past posts in this thread.

What's the difference between the 0.36 BTC and 1 BTC cards?

[DeanC]

The 0.36btc cards are in PLN - but they work with any currency at 2-3% fee

the 1btc cards may be in EUR / USD / GBP - and there is no "2-3% fee" for exchanging the currency

I think you may try 1 of 0.36btc cards and check if you like it

[chrcoe01]

ah I understand

[DeanC]

I've got only 6 PLN  bank PEKAO cards left. Please PM me if you're interested
The cards are working with ANY currency at 2-3% fee


Price: 0.3 btc each + free shipping
buy 2 get 1 free

[LastFastRide]

Hey!  I received 3 cards from Dean today.
I'm just wondering what the best exchange website is to use with these cards.  Mt.Gox is garbage and asks for too much information which kind of defeats the whole purpose of an anonymous card.
If anyone could direct me in the right direction, it would be much appreciated!

[wolfman]

bitstamp.net exchange works great! try it, they have low fees and
don;t ask questions about sepa withdrawals.

[DeanC]

https://eur.bitcurex.com - is very good too


I've got only 6 PLN  bank PEKAO cards left. Please PM me if you're interested
The cards are working with ANY currency at 2-3% fee


Price: 0.3 btc each + free shipping
buy 2 get 1 free

[Ente]

..stopped reading once I figured DeanC deletes his old posts.
Too shady behavior to trust any money, for me.

Ente

[PatMan]

..stopped reading once I figured DeanC deletes his old posts.
Too shady behavior to trust any money, for me.

Ente

There's absolutely nothing shady about DeanC's card sales, he's got many happy customers including me. Why post something like that on his thread? If you don't want one - don't buy one.

[DeanC]

@PatMan
Thank you. Yes it is true. Everyone is satisfied here

The old posts were about VISA cards. Now I offer Mastercards:

//
I've got only 6 PLN  bank PEKAO cards left. Please PM me if you're interested
The cards are working with ANY currency at 2-3% fee


Price: 0.3 btc each + free shipping
buy 2 get 1 free

[Ente]

..stopped reading once I figured DeanC deletes his old posts.
Too shady behavior to trust any money, for me.

Ente

There's absolutely nothing shady about DeanC's card sales, he's got many happy customers including me. Why post something like that on his thread? If you don't want one - don't buy one.

Oh, I never found DeanC's *cards* shady. How could I, I didn't order any from him.
It was actually meant as a somewhat drastic put constructive criticism.

@PatMan
Thank you. Yes it is true. Everyone is satisfied here

The old posts were about VISA cards. Now I offer Mastercards:

Well, people who want to buy cards from you will probably read the whole thread and figure out the current state of the sale and details of the card(s)?
You could just have edited the posts when they weren't up-to-date any more. Or at least "Outdated, read message#123 for news". But completely deleted posts, with people's replies to them left, combined with the non-informing and somewhat shady first post.. Nah. You want to sell a product but ask for private communication right in the first post?
I didn't cry out "scam" or anything. But I cry out "awful PR" and "I wouldn't trust in this with my money".
You know how it works in PR and customer service? For every (potential) customer complaining, a dozen or a thousand are not buying or even leaving.
Still doing constructive criticism here, you see?

To be honest: The low total volume limit in ATM withdrawals is a(nother) no-go for me anyway.

Ente

[DeanC]

@Ente
OK. Thank you


//
I've got only 6 PLN  bank PEKAO cards left. Please PM me if you're interested
The cards are working with ANY currency at 2-3% fee


Price: 0.3 btc each + free shipping
buy 2 get 1 free

[tencevad]

When do the cards expire?

[DeanC]

In 6 months - but when they do - I can provide you with brand new card = at 40% discount

I've got only 4 PLN  bank PEKAO cards left. Please PM me if you're interested
The cards are working with ANY currency at 2-3% fee


Price: 0.5 btc each + free shipping
buy 2 get 1 free

[LastFastRide]

Thanks for the advice.  I ended up using bitstamp but did a withdrawal to international bank.  On bitstamp, it says finished but I'm having issues with actually using the card.  The ATM kept saying declined.  I tried using it with a Square card reader, just to test, and it said "Declined.  Use a different card".  I'm pretty sure there isn't anything wrong with the card; is there something I did wrong? or something I have to do before using the card?

[dilatedPixel]

What are the fees, expiration date, loading maximum, and yearly maximum on the 1btc usd cards?

[rammy2k2]

sent PM

[Wardrick]

PM sent

[rammy2k2]

still waiting reply to my PM 

[DeanC]

What are the fees, expiration date, loading maximum, and yearly maximum on the 1btc usd cards?

expiration 2015
loading max 2500usd/year
withdraw max 150usd/atm/day
USD/EUR/GBP currency - price is 1btc each

-------------------------------------
Cheaper with buy 2 get 1 free offer:


PLN currency but works with any currency at 2-3% fee

website in english
https://www.prepaid.pekao24.pl/ClientLogonUKIPS.html

0.5btc each

Or you can send me your best offer

Please PM me if you're interested

[foo8ar]

What are the fees, expiration date, loading maximum, and yearly maximum on the 1btc usd cards?

expiration 2015
loading max 2500usd/year
withdraw max 150usd/atm/day
USD/EUR/GBP currency - price is 1btc each

-------------------------------------
Cheaper with buy 2 get 1 free offer:


PLN currency but works with any currency at 2-3% fee

website in english
https://www.prepaid.pekao24.pl/ClientLogonUKIPS.html

0.5btc each

Or you can send me your best offer

Please PM me if you're interested

Is it two different cards? Or I don't get it.

/f

[DeanC]

What are the fees, expiration date, loading maximum, and yearly maximum on the 1btc usd cards?

expiration 2015
loading max 2500usd/year
withdraw max 150usd/atm/day
USD/EUR/GBP currency - price is 1btc each

-------------------------------------
Cheaper with buy 2 get 1 free offer:


PLN currency but works with any currency at 2-3% fee

website in english
https://www.prepaid.pekao24.pl/ClientLogonUKIPS.html

0.5btc each

Or you can send me your best offer

Please PM me if you're interested

Is it two different cards? Or I don't get it.

/f

Cheaper cards are in PLN currency and you pay 2-3% fee for exchange from and to USD / EUR

other, the more expensive cards are: USD/EUR/GBP

[foo8ar]

PM sent

/f

[jago25_98]

some feedback:

I got caught out when my usual cards got wet recently so I used the PLN card for a cash withdrawal. Using Google rate a day later it worked out as €76.01 for €70. I will go with the EUR card at that discount when I renew to hopefully reduce costs.

The limit for each item you can buy is quite low, I think $180? For me that meant I couldn't use it to anonymise genetic testing. But it's very good. I even was able to call the bank and speak in English.

I think also it's useful if for some reason you were like the guy in the fugitive where all your normal cards to your name stop working!

[DeanC]

Please PM me if you're interested
The cards are working with ANY currency at 2-3% fee


Price: 0.45 btc each + free shipping
buy 2 get 1 free
Or PM me your best offer

the cards are working with any currency

limits:
2500eur/year
130eur/day/atm

[owenmichaels]

I'm currently trading with this member for the first time.
I'll give you all a feedback after I'm done!
 

[DeanC]

I've got only 2 PLN  bank VISA and 1 Mastercard cards left. Please PM me if you're interested
The cards are working with ANY currency at 2-3% fee


Price: 0.45 btc each + free shipping
buy 2 get 1 free
Or PM me your best offer

the cards are working with any currency

limits:
2500eur/year
130eur/day/atm

[DeanC]

I have 5 PLN cards at "super price" of just 0.3 btc each.

[shavcp]

Hi Dean.  Check PM.  Thnx.

[DeanC]

I have 4 PLN cards at "super price" of just 0.3 btc each.

[OpenYourEyes]

I've got some of his Mastercard (Ban Zachodni WBK) cards today, and ideally would like to use it to for ATM withdrawls.

But it appears, from the polish instructions which I don't understand, that I need to register on the prepaid.bzwbk.pl website, and/or send an SMS before the card can be used? Is that right? Is their a way of avoiding this?

Also, no PIN/IBAN number seems to come in the envolope/on the card, any one know how to obtain these?

Thanks.

[DeanC]

I've got some of his Mastercard (Ban Zachodni WBK) cards today, and ideally would like to use it to for ATM withdrawls.

But it appears, from the polish instructions which I don't understand, that I need to register on the prepaid.bzwbk.pl website, and/or send an SMS before the card can be used? Is that right? Is their a way of avoiding this?

Also, no PIN/IBAN number seems to come in the envolope/on the card, any one know how to obtain these?

Thanks.

Problem solved 100%. PIN was in the envelope - with FAQ in polish language. Sorry for a small problem
You don't need to register to use those cards in ATM

PIN and IBAN are there: (please check PM from me too)
https://i.imgur.com/PbG0ZI3.jpg

//

Now I do have 10 PLN cards at "super price" of just 0.3 btc each.

VISA ANONYMOUS CARDS

buy 2 get 1 free
Or PM me your best offer

the cards are working with any currency

limits:
2500eur/year
130eur/day/atm

[OpenYourEyes]

My silly mistake, PIN and IBAN were inside as described by DeanC.

Great service from him, by the way. It took 4 days for me to receive my cards from Poland, and I've had great support from him. Would recommend.

[DeanC]

Now I do have 10 PLN cards at "super price" of just 0.3 btc each.

VISA ANONYMOUS CARDS
works in any country with any currency at 2% fee

[StarbucksShop]

Can the card be reloaded?

[OpenYourEyes]

Can the card be reloaded?

Yup, as many times as you want, see 4 posts above for the maximum amount you can send to one card in a year.

[DeanC]

Now I do have 5 PLN cards at "super price" of just 0.3 btc each.

VISA ANONYMOUS CARDS
works in any country with any currency at 2% fee

[gsmline]

Jak są jeszcze na sprzedaż prosze na PW napisać

[tolan77]

Ordered 2 from DeanC. He handled and shipped the cards to me phenomenally quickly. Thanks!

[DeanC]

VISA ANONYMOUS CARDS

I offer cards at 0.3 btc each.
buy 2 get 1 free
Or PM me your best offer


the cards are working with any currency

limits:
2500eur/year
130eur/day/atm

[sawek]

no anonymous cards
the activation of the card on the website you need to specify the name surname and PESEL

[tolan77]

no anonymous cards
the activation of the card on the website you need to specify the name surname and PESEL

Haven't activated mine yet. If that's true this is disheartening as I don't have a PESEL living in USA.

[bernard75]

how long are the eur cards valid?

[DeanC]

no anonymous cards
the activation of the card on the website you need to specify the name surname and PESEL

You are wrong You don't need to register the card to use it.
Check my feedback

Cards ARE anonymous


@bernard75
Valid till 10/2014

@tolan
you don't need to activate the card to use it


I offer:
VISA ANONYMOUS CARDS

I offer cards at 0.3 btc each.
buy 2 get 1 free
Or PM me your best offer


the cards are working with any currency

limits:
2500eur/year
130eur/day/atm

[captainbluff]

I have a reloadable Mastercard from a gambling site ( it came from europe I believe), can you reload this?

[DeanC]

I have a reloadable Mastercard from a gambling site ( it came from europe I believe), can you reload this?

No, I don't load any cards

I just offer some:

VISA ANONYMOUS CARDS
I offer cards at 0.3 btc each.
buy 2 get 1 free
Or PM me your best offer

the cards are working with any currency
limits:
2500eur/year
130eur/day/atm

[saddambitcoin]

no anonymous cards
the activation of the card on the website you need to specify the name surname and PESEL

Haven't activated mine yet. If that's true this is disheartening as I don't have a PESEL living in USA.

Use fakenamegenerator.com select Poland as country and it will give you all the info you need. 

[DeanC]

VISA ANONYMOUS CARDS
I offer cards at 0.3 btc each.
buy 2 get 1 free
Or PM me your best offer

the cards are working with any currency
limits:
2500eur/year
130eur/day/atm

[rulfito]

I only want to use the card online. Is it possible to just get it as a virtual card, i.e. no need for having it mailed?

[bitcats]

I only want to use the card online. Is it possible to just get it as a virtual card, i.e. no need for having it mailed?

As far as I know, these cards are tangible - not virtual.

[slackers]

Purchased 6 and they came 2 days later.

Good man.

[slackers]

Yo wheres the iban stored on the brebank prepaids?

[wolfman]

pm deanc and he will explain all you need to know.
i've been using his cards for months now, it's  great deal.

[DeanC]

@wolfman & others - thank you for all the good words
I'm happy to help


VISA ANONYMOUS CARDS
I offer cards at 0.3 btc each.
buy 2 get 1 free
Or PM me your best offer

the cards are working with any currency
limits:
2500eur/year
130eur/day/atm

[Drfatalis]

hi

mp sent

[DeanC]

VISA ANONYMOUS CARDS
I offer cards at 0.3 btc each.
buy 2 get 1 free
Or PM me your best offer

the cards are working with any currency
limits:
2500eur/year
130eur/day/atm

[thekillerofevil]

If you can keep the 3 for 2 deal, I'll definitely be placing an order soon. These are more expensive on the dark net, and from what I understand they're the same card. Once I get .42 more BTC I'll definitely be ordering.

[thekillerofevil]

Okay, placed order. Let y'all know once I've received them.

[Drfatalis]

hello,

anyone have registred a paypal account with cardeasy prepaid of BRE bank(sale by deanc)or attached in an existing account with success please?


thanks in advance for help

[thekillerofevil]

hello,

anyone have registred a paypal account with cardeasy prepaid of BRE bank(sale by deanc)or attached in an existing account with success please?


thanks in advance for help

Well, I did one with a WBK Zachodni Prepaid card and it worked, so I'm sure it'll be fine.

[pvpkiller]

Whats the expiration on them?

@wolfman & others - thank you for all the good words
I'm happy to help


VISA ANONYMOUS CARDS
I offer cards at 0.3 btc each.
buy 2 get 1 free
Or PM me your best offer

the cards are working with any currency
limits:
2500eur/year
130eur/day/atm

[Drfatalis]

hello,

anyone have registred a paypal account with cardeasy prepaid of BRE bank(sale by deanc)or attached in an existing account with success please?


thanks in advance for help

Well, I did one with a WBK Zachodni Prepaid card and it worked, so I'm sure it'll be fine.

yes,so am i,with wbk visa,no problem(i have one of this)

but with the cards I received,not WBK like the picture in previous post,i received cardeasy prepaid visa by BRE BANK(with no chip,
counter to WBK) and I can not registred it to paypal(any paypal)

I received 7 to 8(very good service for fast shipping,in this subject,no problem), but I'm not satisfied believer receive WBK card ,and no response of deanc

i'll test another card,perhaps I can be made ​​a mistake somewhere

[DeanC]

I responded. Everything is ok
expires 10/2014

VISA ANONYMOUS CARDS
I offer cards at 0.3 btc each.
buy 2 get 1 free
Or PM me your best offer

the cards are working with any currency
limits:
2500eur/year
130eur/day/atm

[rulfito]

Has anyone tried withdrawing to the card via Bitcurex EURO?

They cancel my withdrawal and I get this message:

You withdraw has been canceled by staff becouse one or more data is missing:
-IBAN bank Code
-SWIFT/BIC bank code
-Personal address

The Iban is PL+24 digit account
SWIFT: BREXPLPW. I also tried BREXPLPWXXX. Bitxcurex shows 12 digits in their SWIFT example, so not sure what that is.
Address could be anything since the card are anonymous, right?

Any other BTC service that works better for loading it?

[Drfatalis]

so am i

your card is "cardeasy" by bre bank?

i'have the same problem(via bitstamp for me)

when i registred a card to BRE bank,no problem,but when you finished to registred-->card is not activated

and you,have you test to registred one on BRE bank site ?

i think,the bank hope to activate the card and you can do anything with

DeanC have answered me, and he is surprised that it does not go on paypal

carreful, I'm not saying DeanC is a thief, I think the bank has simply forgotten to turn the cards

by against the problem for us

[Drfatalis]

I responded. Everything is ok
expires 10/2014

VISA ANONYMOUS CARDS
I offer cards at 0.3 btc each.
buy 2 get 1 free
Or PM me your best offer

the cards are working with any currency
limits:
2500eur/year
130eur/day/atm

thanks for your reply DeanC,but everything is not ok

ok the cards expires on 10/2014,but they don't work (3 tested / 3 not good)

I can test the other if you want

[DeanC]

@Drfatalis

The cards are working 100% for:
SEPA
IBAN transfers
MTGOX
BITCUREX etc.

The cards may not work for PayPal so please return to me and I will give you 100% refund for the unopened cards. Just contact me via PM.

VISA ANONYMOUS CARDS
I offer cards at 0.3 btc each.
buy 2 get 1 free
Or PM me your best offer

the cards are working with any currency
limits:
2500eur/year
130eur/day/atm

[Drfatalis]

ok,i'll return your card

thanks for your support

[sabuncu]

ı want these cards.

But ı'm living Turkey is it possible use in here?

And how to buy and sell cashout?How to sending my iban number?is it possible?

and need to change mac and ip adress???

Everybody say;These cards legal.

[bitnubbio]

Are you sure they dont work with paypal??? None of them?? Cheers

[sabuncu]

ı want these cards.
But ı'm living Turkey is it possible use in here?

Turks are not allowed to use this card.

So is possible buy btc in turkey? For example bitstamp and mtgox?

[Kazzotron]

ı want these cards.
But ı'm living Turkey is it possible use in here?

Turks are not allowed to use this card.

Can you please elaborate on your statement that Turks arent allowed to use this card?

[FTWbitcoinFTW]

Turk are not allowed to speak about the governement, not allowed to critic, not allowed at human right...

If you stop at wath turk are allowed or not, u didnt do so much 

[sabuncu]

So what can i do? Paypal or shopping avaible or buy btc ? İs the possible on these???

[sabuncu]

hey what is your problem?


I want these cards.Avaible shopping or paypal?

[DeanC]

@fritzthecat

Please contact me via PM.

Valid till 10/2014

VISA ANONYMOUS CARDS
I offer cards at 0.3 btc each.
buy 2 get 1 free
Or PM me your best offer

the cards are working with any currency
limits:
2500eur/year
130eur/day/atm

[thekillerofevil]

Received the three cards. Lets see about getting them set up now 

[bitcats]

Dein Ärger ist berechtigt, aber Dean kann nichts dafür, dass bernard so teuer ist, und auch nicht, dass der Kurs sinkt. Er wird dir deine Karten garantiert ersetzen. Ich empfehle daher nochmal, deinen Post hier etwas abzumildern und ihm privat die Meinung zu sagen. Mit Vernunft läßt sich vieles besser regeln.  

[bitcats]

Ich bin ziemlich neu hier und wurde gleich bei meinem ersten Deal betrogen, wie würdest du dich denn fühlen?
Und natürlich kann DeanC was dafür, er hat mir kompletten Mist geliefert!!!
Es ist echt eine Scweinerei was er mit mir abgezogen hat!!!

Dann mach wie denkst. Ich habs gut gemeint, gerade weil du hier neu bist, aber mit deiner Einstellung kommst du hier nicht sehr weit.

[sabuncu]

İ thinking reseller cant never trust is it true??

[DeanC]

@fritzthecat

1) Read my feedback.
2) Dont panic
3) send me the cards
4) I refund
5) Dont panic, man
You can not read - the cards are PLN.

Do not spam here. Use PM.

I offer PLN cards.

VISA ANONYMOUS CARDS
I offer cards at 0.35 btc each.
buy 2 get 1 free
Or PM me your best offer

the cards are working with any currency
limits:
2500eur/year
130eur/day/atm

[thekillerofevil]

Okay the cards won't activate... I went on the site on the paper and registered with info like ive done with other cards and it just won't work. And too bad that I've opened them all not expecting this to happen.

[DeanC]

@thekillerofevil
contact me via pm please

cards activate via 1st withdrawal 100% ok


I offer:
VISA ANONYMOUS CARDS
I offer cards at 0.35 btc each.
buy 2 get 1 free
Or PM me your best offer

the cards are working with any currency
limits:
2500eur/year
130eur/day/atm

[thekillerofevil]

Okay I'd like to add that once a deposit hit from PayPal, the card became active. I can now vouch for these cards, though you should order some more as they expire in almost a year.

[DeanC]

Thanks,
I have 100% good feedback here

[DeanC]

I offer:
PLN VISA ANONYMOUS CARDS
I offer cards at 0.29 btc each.
buy 2 get 1 free
Or PM me your best offer

the PLN cards are working with any currency
limits:
2500eur/year
130eur/day/atm

[rulfito]

Card worked perfectly for me in the end. Thanks.

[diablo2001]

Card worked perfectly for me too. Thanks.

[Latrina]

Peps I have got this card and registered on it's website, however I can't find the IBAN for transferring some money through SEPA.

Can anyone please give me some instruction?

Thanks

[DeanC]

IBAN is the  LOOONG number




I offer:
PLN VISA ANONYMOUS CARDS
I offer cards at 0.29 btc each.
buy 2 get 1 free
Or PM me your best offer

the PLN cards are working with any currency
limits:
2500eur/year
130eur/day/atm

[JustSomeAnon]

What payments do you accept?

Are these cards working still with paypal and ACH transfers?

[JustSomeAnon]

Why in the world would you buy PLN cards?!?
The bank will charge you 3% conversion fees when you sent cash to them and then again 3% when you withdraw on top of the 2% withdraw fee.
Get yourself a card in your currency and save 8%.

Where can i get a card in my currency that's anonymous?

[DeanC]

I offer:
PLN VISA ANONYMOUS CARDS
I offer cards at 0.22 btc each.
buy 2 get 1 free + FREE SHIPPING
Or PM me your best offer

the PLN cards are working with any currency
limits:
2500eur/year
130eur/day/atm

[MrSitype]

Is it possible to send SEPA bank transfert from the card bank account ?

[desto]

Used those cards, but they have also weak side - these cards can be blocked with all funds on them. All funds comming from Poland are checked by all banks because of criminal situation in Poland. In other countries card can be blocked already after first transaction and it doesn't matter - have you made withdraw from ATM or bought a chocolate bar... In such situation You loose Your money permanently. I have lost approx. 7k GBP...

P.S. This is good way to get funds from btc to cash anonymously, but first - order 1 card and check, will it be blocked or not. This post is just for safeness of Your money.

[neocon]

How to register these cards? I got stuck on PESEL, which is required.

[Booooooo]

anyone have ever been locked?  Me had 10 cards never had an issue (mine are VISA not mastercard) but start to be afraid!

[zedicus]

Wish more people would speak up about their experience .. I was about to buy one from this guy
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=254533.0


Now im not so sure..

[sionsandman]

Wish more people would speak up about their experience .. I was about to buy one from this guy
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=254533.0


Now im not so sure..

Why?

For me these cards work great.

[zedicus]

Wish more people would speak up about their experience .. I was about to buy one from this guy
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=254533.0


Now im not so sure..

Why?

For me these cards work great.

Thanks for posting your expierience!

Im not so sure because of shit like this!

Used those cards, but they have also weak side - these cards can be blocked with all funds on them. All funds comming from Poland are checked by all banks because of criminal situation in Poland. In other countries card can be blocked already after first transaction and it doesn't matter - have you made withdraw from ATM or bought a chocolate bar... In such situation You loose Your money permanently. I have lost approx. 7k GBP...

P.S. This is good way to get funds from btc to cash anonymously, but first - order 1 card and check, will it be blocked or not. This post is just for safeness of Your money.

It would be nice if there were more people dialoging about their experiences .. at this point i do not feel comfortable in making the purchase. Im sure maybe after vetting it a lil further or dialoging with someone i trust about it... i may change my mind! At this point tho..


I read on another forum that a whole batch of these cards had been shutdown due to some fraud or something but these were similar cards purchased from the drk web.

Anyway.. Everyone has a different threshold on how much risk they are willing to take and i guess im right at mine so im exercising caution.


If you have good or bad experiences, let us know! It may help some of us on the sidelines to make an informed decision.





 
PS: If i buy one of these cards from here or otherwise i will review the process for onlookers!

[horsebox1]

I have four cards and now one of them wont work, it's telling me at every ATM "Transaction cannot be completed"

I have the four registered together under one account at WBK's website so I dont see why one is not working while the others are okay.

Anyone else have this issue?

[Booooooo]

I have four cards and now one of them wont work, it's telling me at every ATM "Transaction cannot be completed"

I have the four registered together under one account at WBK's website so I dont see why one is not working while the others are okay.

Anyone else have this issue?

try to see if report "card temporarily locked" (is written in polish)

[sanos51ck]

I have four cards and now one of them wont work, it's telling me at every ATM "Transaction cannot be completed"

I have the four registered together under one account at WBK's website so I dont see why one is not working while the others are okay.

Anyone else have this issue?

Is this solved?

[zedicus]

No its not solved! He would have came back and said "thanks i got my funds out"


But that didnt happen! There is an inherent risk with these cards..

The risk is that these cards might actually lock you out..  With your funds in it! 


Lets see how does that work.


You buy a card and start putting funds in it and it just so happens to be that the batch of cards you bought from is also being sold to some people who are committing fraud or some kind of other criminal activity.


Then when people start going after the people committing fraud they trace to down to a batch of these cards of which you are included in. Since you are part of the batch they just close all the cards and keep your money.

Clearly they are waiting for you to come in and contest the matter.. ( laughs )

You can kiss your funds goodbye! 

[sanos51ck]

No its not solved! He would have came back and said "thanks i got my funds out"


But that didnt happen! There is an inherent risk with these cards..

The risk is that these cards might actually lock you out..  With your funds in it! 


Lets see how does that work.


You buy a card and start putting funds in it and it just so happens to be that the batch of cards you bought from is also being sold to some people who are committing fraud or some kind of other criminal activity.


Then when people start going after the people committing fraud they trace to down to a batch of these cards of which you are included in. Since you are part of the batch they just close all the cards and keep your money.

Clearly they are waiting for you to come in and contest the matter.. ( laughs )

You can kiss your funds goodbye! 

Can I infer that your reply implicitly indicates that you have a better alternative?

[zedicus]

NO i dont have an alternative. In fact i too was looking into anon cards and did some looking around to find out what the deal was.

I spoke to a few people who hang out on shenanigans st formerly known as the darkweb and they shared some of their experiences and i also spoke to a guy who sold the cards for 3 years .. It wasnt the same guys on here but its a rinse and repeat operation of the same structure with maybe a different bank. I wont go into detail but its kind of obvious .. you are taking the chance that has no contingency what so ever! You fill up those cards with money from an exchange or otherwise and you have absolutely no recourse when the cards get locked and you lost funds! Whats really ****** is that people are getting a bunch of these cards! Now imagine you just bought 5-10 of these cards and emptied your exchange account into them! You think 1 gets shut off!?? The whole batch goes when it goes bad!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z9Jwp2x86o


Do you see the op trying to convince you guys otherwise? The risk is inherent! Maybe just not so obvious if you have blinders on!

If you understand that there is a chance you will loose all funds! knock your self out..

Outside of that, unless you plan on taking a trip to the woodworks where its really cold and then prove you have residency there.. you aren't gonna get an anon card with no risk! There is no alternative. 

I hope that clears it up!

[sanos51ck]

you aren't gonna get an anon card with no risk! There is no alternative.

I agree but that should be obvious from the beginning for everyone.

All you can do is minimize the risk. Load and cash-out right away.

There are better alternatives but none is risk free and cost more money.

[DeanC]

I still have the cards

19 USD each

VISA/MASTERCARD + IBAN:
the PLN cards are working with any currency
limits:
2500eur/year
130eur/day/atm

[Captain Future]

Hi,

what bank is it?
can you withdraw money from the iban account no?
if yes i am interested.
any other cards with higher daily limit?
pls explain the order process, give me the link etc...

many thanks
CF

IBAN is the  LOOONG number




I offer:
PLN VISA ANONYMOUS CARDS
I offer cards at 0.29 btc each.
buy 2 get 1 free
Or PM me your best offer

the PLN cards are working with any currency
limits:
2500eur/year
130eur/day/atm

[sauc1er]

Used those cards, but they have also weak side - these cards can be blocked with all funds on them. All funds comming from Poland are checked by all banks because of criminal situation in Poland. In other countries card can be blocked already after first transaction and it doesn't matter - have you made withdraw from ATM or bought a chocolate bar... In such situation You loose Your money permanently. I have lost approx. 7k GBP...

P.S. This is good way to get funds from btc to cash anonymously, but first - order 1 card and check, will it be blocked or not. This post is just for safeness of Your money.

Same happened to me!

[Thule]

If your funds are stucked on polish cards have a look here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2069864.0

[Gintarelis]

Can anyone sell those cards on the meeting?I would come to the chosen place.Please text me a message.

[tomotan]

Can anyone sell those cards on the meeting?I would come to the chosen place.Please text me a message.

Why would you want to use cards where paid funds getting stuck and therefore are lost!?!?
If you want to loose money just pick a shady seller on this forum or even easier donate to me mate

[Sosaso75]

Can anyone sell those cards on the meeting?I would come to the chosen place.Please text me a message.

Why would you want to use cards where paid funds getting stuck and therefore are lost!?!?
If you want to loose money just pick a shady seller on this forum or even easier donate to me mate

Totally agree...very unsafe to buy these kind of cards

[waqmaz]

still got the cards?

[tomotan]

still got the cards?

As mentioned above... Totally unsafe... Can't recommend this product, no matter of whom you are buying them from. Read all the reviews first

[cryptopharma]

I don't think this offer is still available... seems to be a post from 2012

[tomotan]

I don't think this offer is still available... seems to be a post from 2012

Although this offer isn't active anymore, there are some others online, but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone... People lost their fortune buying this cards, putting money on it, so beware.

[Lionel]

Anonymous cards are useful to convert BTC to anonymous FIAT.
But i would convert just a low amount, like $100-$500,  then i spend it and then i load another small amount, and so on.

If the card gets blocked, i lose little money.

I don't get why many of you need to load thousands of $ in those cards ??
Please explain your use case

Maybe you withdrew your funds to the card from an exchange when Bitcoin price was crashing?
But why didn't you just trade the BTC for a stablecoin? Especially a decentralized one like DAI ( in that your USDT/USDC funds may get freezed because they are centralized).

And you would keep the money in DAI, then whenever you need to spend them, you convert a few hundreds to anonymous FIAT on a PLN card.

[Daltonik]

Soon, work with cryptocurrencies will become available to Mastercard owners, according to CNBC, Mastercard will soon announce support for cryptocurrencies in its network.
Banks and merchants will be able to integrate cryptocurrencies into their products. We are talking about bitcoin wallets, credit and debit cards for accruals in cryptocurrencies, as well as loyalty programs, points in which can be converted into digital assets.

Sherry Haymond, Mastercard's executive vice president for digital partnerships, said the initiative would allow banks to compete with cryptocurrency exchanges.
The Bakkt platform will become a partner of the payment network.
source: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/25/mastercard-says-any-bank-or-merchant-on-its-vast-network-can-soon-offer-crypto-services.html?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=Main&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1635166922

[blackhat777]

Hi,
I tried to send you a private message, but I still have not been enabled to be able to write to you privately. Could you please enable me?

Thank you.

[NaLuFairyTail1]

OK, I'll take you up on your offer to send first.

1.9 BTC for a card denominated in EUR?

days when we paid 2 btc for a virtual card at the time