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 There is a huge difference between people and animals.



You're right, there is a difference between a member of a set and the set itself.  Kinda hard to put your finger on the difference though.   

-- bon appetit

Thank Goodness the animals know the difference.  Smiley

Yes, thank goodness we do.  It would be difficult if we often confused oranges with fruit, or bitcoin with money for example. 
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February 03, 2015, 11:55:48 PM
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Vegetarian restaurant owner did not want to kill cockroaches on moral grounds





The owner of a popular Dickson vegetarian restaurant was morally opposed to wiping out a cockroach infestation because it would have involved "killing little insects".

Kingsland Vegetarian Restaurant was on Thursday fined $16,000 for eight food safety breaches.

ACT Health inspectors discovered the live and dead cockroaches in the kitchen of the northside eatery in April 2013.

The threat to public health through contaminated food meant the inspectors shut the "unhygienic" restaurant the next day.

But on Thursday the ACT Magistrates Court was told that the restaurant, which is still trading, has since fixed the problems and won awards for its vegetarian and vegan fare.

Kingsland Vegetarian Restaurant owner Khanh Hoang was originally charged with 12 breaches of the Food Act.

He pleaded guilty to eight offences and appeared for sentence in the ACT Magistrates Court on Thursday afternoon.

Court documents said the northside eatery – which specialises in vegetarian cuisine – had been granted an operation certificate in December 2012.

Inspectors raided the restaurant four months later after a public tip-off to discover the breaches, which included a cockroach infestation, incorrect food storage, a dirty kitchen and equipment and obstructed and faulty handwashing facilities.

Court documents included pictures that show a number of live and dead cockroaches around the kitchen, including close to cooking equipment.

At the time, no action had been taken to fix the insects' access points or eradicate the infestation.

Court documents said: "The presence of insects is a key indicator that surfaces are unclean and food is left unattended."

The toilet did not have an air-lock or self-closing door, which meant it opened directly into the kitchen.

Food had been stored in uncovered containers inside the dishwasher and freezer.

Parts of the walls and floors had not been cleaned for a considerable period and had a thick accumulation of grease, dirt, and other material.

Surfaces and equipment – such as stove top and dirty pots, pans and trays – had been left uncleansed, and covered in dirt, food waste and debris.

A missing tap handle meant the hand washing basin could not supply warm running water.

The restaurant was banned from selling food, but cleared to open six days later when the breaches had been corrected.

Mr Hoang attended an interview with the Health Protection Service in June 2013, where he admitted he had been aware of the cockroach infestation but did not carry out pest control measures as it involved "killing".

But pictures tendered in court by defence lawyer Adrian McKenna on Thursday showed the kitchen now in a pristine state.

Mr McKenna said the restaurant has not breached any food standards since 2013.

The lawyer said his client had passionate vegan values but accepted, in hindsight, that his morals had been misguided.

Mr Hoang now brought in a pest control team on a regular basis, has since won awards, and appointed a food safety supervisor.

Magistrate Maria Doogan described the restaurant in the new pictures as immaculate.

She found the offences to be mid-range and convicted and fined Mr Hoang $2000 on each count.

Ms Doogan said she took into account his limited capacity to pay the fine and loss of reputation.

She gave Mr Hoang  one year to pay the total of $16,000 in fines.


http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/vegetarian-restaurateur-did-not-want-to-kill-cockroaches-on-moral-grounds-20150201-1313kf.html


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"...owner did not want to kill cockroaches on moral grounds...", but had no moral issues putting at risk the life of humans who paid for his food.

Let's hope this was a very, only, unique, never again, case of a vegetarian restaurant that did this, all the way in australia. If not, then...

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February 04, 2015, 12:02:28 AM
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That's just too silly. After all, how could you keep roaches out of all the food. Sooner or later a customer would kill one by eating it.

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February 04, 2015, 02:24:44 AM
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That's just too silly. After all, how could you keep roaches out of all the food. Sooner or later a customer would kill one by eating it.

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Next time he should open a thai vegetarian restaurant. Simply say the roaches are part of the dish, encouraging his customers to play with them...

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February 04, 2015, 10:48:52 AM
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That's just too silly. After all, how could you keep roaches out of all the food. Sooner or later a customer would kill one by eating it.

 Grin


Next time he should open a thai vegetarian restaurant. Simply say the roaches are part of the dish, encouraging his customers to play with them...

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... and, of course, pay for them.    Grin
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February 05, 2015, 03:52:06 AM
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That's just too silly. After all, how could you keep roaches out of all the food. Sooner or later a customer would kill one by eating it.

 Grin


Next time he should open a thai vegetarian restaurant. Simply say the roaches are part of the dish, encouraging his customers to play with them...

 Cool


... and, of course, pay for them.    Grin


As a punishment only, to help you toward the path of enlightenment. A true vegetarian like this character would not accept blood money (or whatever that white goo is when you step, or chew, on roaches) for those crimes...


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February 05, 2015, 08:08:28 PM
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I'll bet it was delicious.

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February 05, 2015, 08:11:35 PM
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I'll bet it was delicious.


I bet. Like a cakeroach...

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February 05, 2015, 09:35:59 PM
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I'll bet it was delicious.


I bet. Like a cakeroach...

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The white goo talked about at
As a punishment only, to help you toward the path of enlightenment. A true vegetarian like this character would not accept blood money (or whatever that white goo is when you step, or chew, on roaches) for those crimes...
is the frosting.

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February 06, 2015, 03:24:01 AM
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I'll bet it was delicious.


I bet. Like a cakeroach...

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The white goo talked about at
As a punishment only, to help you toward the path of enlightenment. A true vegetarian like this character would not accept blood money (or whatever that white goo is when you step, or chew, on roaches) for those crimes...
is the frosting.

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As long as it is gluten free...

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February 06, 2015, 02:56:09 PM
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I'll bet it was delicious.


I bet. Like a cakeroach...

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The white goo talked about at
As a punishment only, to help you toward the path of enlightenment. A true vegetarian like this character would not accept blood money (or whatever that white goo is when you step, or chew, on roaches) for those crimes...
is the frosting.

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As long as it is gluten free...

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It's not generally the gluten that is unhealthy for you. Rather it is the combination of all the poisons they spray on the grain just before harvest time, so that they get only the strong grains with almost no weeds, combined with the gluten, that is making everyone sick. So, the benefit is in eating the roaches, because the roach bodies are not much affected by the poisons, but break them down into harmless substances.

"Gluten fed roaches are actually good for you."   Grin

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February 06, 2015, 03:48:08 PM
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I'll bet it was delicious.


I bet. Like a cakeroach...

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The white goo talked about at
As a punishment only, to help you toward the path of enlightenment. A true vegetarian like this character would not accept blood money (or whatever that white goo is when you step, or chew, on roaches) for those crimes...
is the frosting.

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As long as it is gluten free...

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It's not generally the gluten that is unhealthy for you. Rather it is the combination of all the poisons they spray on the grain just before harvest time, so that they get only the strong grains with almost no weeds, combined with the gluten, that is making everyone sick. So, the benefit is in eating the roaches, because the roach bodies are not much affected by the poisons, but break them down into harmless substances.

"Gluten fed roaches are actually good for you."   Grin

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Based on that conclusion, the restaurant owner will have a case for being wrongfully targeted by anti roach-eating deniers and get millions...
... To immediately be sued by P.I.T.A. and lose all those millions...

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February 06, 2015, 05:13:55 PM
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I'll bet it was delicious.


I bet. Like a cakeroach...

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The white goo talked about at
As a punishment only, to help you toward the path of enlightenment. A true vegetarian like this character would not accept blood money (or whatever that white goo is when you step, or chew, on roaches) for those crimes...
is the frosting.

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As long as it is gluten free...

 Smiley





It's not generally the gluten that is unhealthy for you. Rather it is the combination of all the poisons they spray on the grain just before harvest time, so that they get only the strong grains with almost no weeds, combined with the gluten, that is making everyone sick. So, the benefit is in eating the roaches, because the roach bodies are not much affected by the poisons, but break them down into harmless substances.

"Gluten fed roaches are actually good for you."   Grin

Smiley


Based on that conclusion, the restaurant owner will have a case for being wrongfully targeted by anti roach-eating deniers and get millions...
... To immediately be sued by P.I.T.A. and lose all those millions...

 Smiley




Upon losing the suit, collapse the corporation, set up a new one with the assets of the old, and let the P.I.T.A. re-sue.

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February 06, 2015, 06:58:48 PM
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The whole point is not tell each other how to eat! If you want to eat meat or veggies, that is your business.
The problem begins when we preach to each other who is right and who is wrong.
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February 06, 2015, 07:12:25 PM
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The whole point is not tell each other how to eat! If you want to eat meat or veggies, that is your business.
The problem begins when we preach to each other who is right and who is wrong.


You should re watch the video in the first post while reading out loud what you've just wrote... You'll then get the full experience of this thread.

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February 06, 2015, 07:49:47 PM
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Where do these people come from? Is this supposed to be a joke or is it serious? It seems too ridiculous to be real?

Someone should chop-up these people and put them in the hamburger meat in that store. Then they will have served a purpose

in this world. Otherwise, they are just a waste of oxygen.
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February 06, 2015, 11:49:57 PM
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Where do these people come from? Is this supposed to be a joke or is it serious? It seems too ridiculous to be real?

Someone should chop-up these people and put them in the hamburger meat in that store. Then they will have served a purpose

in this world. Otherwise, they are just a waste of oxygen.

Isn't that what the pink slime was that everyone was complaining about in the hamburger last year? these people?   Cheesy

Lots of people complained back then, and a lot of companies, including Walmart, quit selling hamburger with pink slime in it.

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February 07, 2015, 04:16:44 AM
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Where do these people come from? Is this supposed to be a joke or is it serious? It seems too ridiculous to be real?

Someone should chop-up these people and put them in the hamburger meat in that store. Then they will have served a purpose

in this world. Otherwise, they are just a waste of oxygen.

Isn't that what the pink slime was that everyone was complaining about in the hamburger last year? these people?   Cheesy

Lots of people complained back then, and a lot of companies, including Walmart, quit selling hamburger with pink slime in it.

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Pink slime is perfectly safe. If these people were in it then the pink slime would have had a sauteed-hipster-with-alfalfa-sprouts after taste...


http://agricultureproud.com/2012/03/12/what-is-pink-slime-and-is-it-safe/


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February 07, 2015, 07:39:05 PM
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Where do these people come from? Is this supposed to be a joke or is it serious? It seems too ridiculous to be real?

Someone should chop-up these people and put them in the hamburger meat in that store. Then they will have served a purpose

in this world. Otherwise, they are just a waste of oxygen.

Isn't that what the pink slime was that everyone was complaining about in the hamburger last year? these people?   Cheesy

Lots of people complained back then, and a lot of companies, including Walmart, quit selling hamburger with pink slime in it.

Smiley


Pink slime is perfectly safe. If these people were in it then the pink slime would have had a sauteed-hipster-with-alfalfa-sprouts after taste...


http://agricultureproud.com/2012/03/12/what-is-pink-slime-and-is-it-safe/




Riiiight.    Soylent Green.     Cheesy
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February 17, 2015, 07:08:05 PM
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Vegan MYTHS Debunked with Lierre Keith


This week, we sat down with Lierre Keith, author of "The Vegetarian Myth" to learn about why Vegans are wrong. She can be found at http://www.lierrekeith.com


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZSz4AmaMcs&feature=em-subs_digest






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