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November 22, 2014, 03:56:09 PM
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iCan everything ))))

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November 23, 2014, 06:11:15 AM
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Haha these militant veggies are pretty funny. It's natural and healthy for us to eat meat, the canine teeth in my mouth prove it.

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How many vegans do you see at your friendly neighborhood cancer ward ?

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November 23, 2014, 06:21:25 AM
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We're talking about animals here, not plants, right?

What's worse, killing animals for food? Or killing them for pleasure? Humor me in this.

The American Indians killed the buffalo for food, and for their hides. They limited their kills to what they needed to live.

The white-eye sportsmen hunted buffalo for fun - but also at times, to clear grazing land for cattle.

Many viruses are little living animals. Yet many of these hypocrite animal rights activists get vaccinated so that they can kill off viruses.

Why don't they figure out ways so that they can save all the bacteria and viruses in their own bodies, rather than killing them off with their immune systems and medicine? There's gotta be a way to keep from slaughtering all those tiny animals.

And, now, since you probably didn't think of this before, don't go out and commit suicide for all the deaths you are causing. Such a thing might increase certain animal lives in your body for awhile. But it would ultimately destroy the lives and potential lives of many others.

Look.

Before the Great Flood of Noah's day, people were supposed to eat plants. After the Flood, God gave them permission to eat animals, as well. Man, to keep from becoming downright murders of all kinds of animals, have bred certain of the animals for food - cows, pigs, chickens, turkeys, etc.

Quit protesting what I do with my property. Maybe if you would learn how to take care of your own, and learn how to think straight, as well, you would realize that you are being used by politics to mess with peoples' lives.

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Most plants are difficult to digest. Most animals are not. The only thing you need from the plants is a dose of phyto-nutrients now and again. And the best place you can get these is from plankton.

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Compare your teeth, claws and digestive system to that of any true carnivore, then get back to me.

That blood/flesh smoke coming off of your dead animal carcass is getting you soo high, you don't know wtf is goin on !

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November 23, 2014, 08:00:53 AM
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Let it be eaten
As a species we eat a lot of things so well calling it inhumane is not quite true.
If there was one species that specifically ate humans and only humans then we would call it inhumane but if we eat 100's or thousands of species for our food its considered normal, then who is really the inhumane species.
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November 23, 2014, 03:46:02 PM
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We're talking about animals here, not plants, right?

What's worse, killing animals for food? Or killing them for pleasure? Humor me in this.

The American Indians killed the buffalo for food, and for their hides. They limited their kills to what they needed to live.

The white-eye sportsmen hunted buffalo for fun - but also at times, to clear grazing land for cattle.

Many viruses are little living animals. Yet many of these hypocrite animal rights activists get vaccinated so that they can kill off viruses.

Why don't they figure out ways so that they can save all the bacteria and viruses in their own bodies, rather than killing them off with their immune systems and medicine? There's gotta be a way to keep from slaughtering all those tiny animals.

And, now, since you probably didn't think of this before, don't go out and commit suicide for all the deaths you are causing. Such a thing might increase certain animal lives in your body for awhile. But it would ultimately destroy the lives and potential lives of many others.

Look.

Before the Great Flood of Noah's day, people were supposed to eat plants. After the Flood, God gave them permission to eat animals, as well. Man, to keep from becoming downright murders of all kinds of animals, have bred certain of the animals for food - cows, pigs, chickens, turkeys, etc.

Quit protesting what I do with my property. Maybe if you would learn how to take care of your own, and learn how to think straight, as well, you would realize that you are being used by politics to mess with peoples' lives.

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Most plants are difficult to digest. Most animals are not. The only thing you need from the plants is a dose of phyto-nutrients now and again. And the best place you can get these is from plankton.

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Compare your teeth, claws and digestive system to that of any true carnivore, then get back to me.

That blood/flesh smoke coming off of your dead animal carcass is getting you soo high, you don't know wtf is goin on !



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Please don’t believe me without verifying the facts. Check everything I say. All the real data is on the internet. You can just go to Google and put in the name of anything you want to check. I have also included sixty-nine references that you can check directly. Even then, when you have checked the references you still have to think and evaluate what is wrong and what is right.

So let’s get a couple of the most important misleading conceptions out of the way so we can then talk about vegetarianism a bit. Most of the vegetarian books say that our digestive system is similar to that of vegetarian animals such as sheep, goats, cows, etc. Well this may surprise you a bit, but there is no such thing as vegetarian animals. There are some fruitarian animals, but sorry, no vegetarians. Sheep, goats, cows, and other plant eaters are not vegetarian. They eat grasses of various types. You can try to call grass a vegetable, but sorry, there are distinct and multiple differences from vegetables. The grass eaters can digest cellulose but man cannot digest cellulose. Man would die eating only what all those plant eaters eat. Where they feed cows corn (a vegetable), they get very poor results as far as those of us who are health advocates are concerned, and they get sick cows.

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Man would die eating the same diet that grassy plant eaters eat. I think you already know that what I am saying is the truth, but check it out. Man cannot digest cellulose which is the biggest part of the plant eaters’ diet.

The second deliberate misconception (which is the definition of a lie) written in almost every vegetarian book is that there is some sort of similarity between the nutritional system of plant eaters and man.

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COMPARISON CHART FOR MAN, WOLF, AND PLANT EATERs
[Check it out at the link.]

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Only humans are vegetarians. There are no animals of earth that are only vegetarians. Some animals are fruitarians.

(See paragraph number 3 of this article above.)

Just because grass eating animals can get enough nutrients from grass is no indication that humans can get enough nutrients from vegetables. Grass and vegetables are not the same thing. Sheep and humans are not the same thing and there is nothing to indicate that they should be eating the same thing. In fact, sheep eat grass and human vegetarians eat vegetables. They are not the same thing.
(I hope you recognize this data is simple facts, and really not disputable.)

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Go to the article to read more. It is really quite interesting. And it almost proves that most vegetarians in modern countries are essentially starving themselves to death.

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November 23, 2014, 11:31:17 PM
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That quote sounds like it was written by a 10 year old. lol Show us this "expert's" sources. (Sorry but, I do not trust your link.)

9 years on, I am definitely not a starvin marvin and neither is Freelee, the Banana Girl. Wink

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Patrik Baboumian (born 1 July 1979) is an Armenian-German strongman competitor, psychologist and former bodybuilder. Born in Abadan, Iran, at the age of seven Baboumian, along with his mother and grandmother, emigrated to Hattenhof, Germany. By the age of nine Baboumian had developed an interest in weight training, which led him to pursue bodybuilding as a young man. In 1999 he won the IFBB German junior bodybuilding championship, and in 2002 he became the overall junior champion at the Gießen Campions-Cup. Baboumian currently holds the world log lift record in the 105k-category (165 kg), as well as the German heavyweight loglift record (180 kg) and the title of "Strongest Man of Germany" (105 kg division). Since 2006 he has been competing at IFSA Strongman events. In 2007 Baboumian competed at the FSA -105 kg World Championships and ended up with a 14th place.

Since 2009, Baboumian holds the log lift World Record (-105 kg division). He lifted 162,5 kg in his second attempt in the German log lift nationals 2009. 2010 Baboumian also set a new German heavyweight loglifting record with 180 kg. 2011 Baboumian competed at the loglifting world championship and placed 4th with a new German overall-record of 185 kg. On 21 May 2011 he lifted 190 kg in Turku, Finland winning the local competition. 2011 Baboumian also won the title of "Germany's Strongest Man" by winning the open division at the German strongman nationals.

Baboumian has been a vegetarian since 2005, and became a vegan in 2011. In November 2011 Baboumian became the new face of a campaign by the animal-rights organization PETA, advocating a vegan diet.

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November 24, 2014, 12:09:13 AM
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It is less of what we eat and more of how we eat it.  You take in the energy of the food you consume.  Eat animals that suffered, and their negative energy will pass onto you.  Eat an animal that lived a happy life with a habitable environment and a loving care taker, and their energy will be passed to you in a positive light.

And blessing food, by meditating for the being to become light, shows respect and love that the being's spirit will feel and reflect onto you.

It's less about saying words, but feeling gratitude and love towards the being you are consuming.

Factory farming is a loveless practice and completely unnecessary for our survival.

When the day comes that I have chickens, I will show them much love and it will be passed on through their eggs and lives.

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November 24, 2014, 12:57:07 AM
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It is less of what we eat and more of how we eat it.  You take in the energy of the food you consume.  Eat animals that suffered, and their negative energy will pass onto you.  Eat an animal that lived a happy life with a habitable environment and a loving care taker, and their energy will be passed to you in a positive light.

And blessing food, by meditating for the being to become light, shows respect and love that the being's spirit will feel and reflect onto you.

It's less about saying words, but feeling gratitude and love towards the being you are consuming.

Factory farming is a loveless practice and completely unnecessary for our survival.

When the day comes that I have chickens, I will show them much love and it will be passed on through their eggs and lives.

Yes happy animals taste better.
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November 24, 2014, 01:04:40 AM
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That quote sounds like it was written by a 10 year old. lol Show us this "expert's" sources. (Sorry but, I do not trust your link.)

9 years on, I am definitely not a starvin marvin and neither is Freelee, the Banana Girl. Wink

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Patrik Baboumian (born 1 July 1979) is an Armenian-German strongman competitor, psychologist and former bodybuilder. Born in Abadan, Iran, at the age of seven Baboumian, along with his mother and grandmother, emigrated to Hattenhof, Germany. By the age of nine Baboumian had developed an interest in weight training, which led him to pursue bodybuilding as a young man. In 1999 he won the IFBB German junior bodybuilding championship, and in 2002 he became the overall junior champion at the Gießen Campions-Cup. Baboumian currently holds the world log lift record in the 105k-category (165 kg), as well as the German heavyweight loglift record (180 kg) and the title of "Strongest Man of Germany" (105 kg division). Since 2006 he has been competing at IFSA Strongman events. In 2007 Baboumian competed at the FSA -105 kg World Championships and ended up with a 14th place.

Since 2009, Baboumian holds the log lift World Record (-105 kg division). He lifted 162,5 kg in his second attempt in the German log lift nationals 2009. 2010 Baboumian also set a new German heavyweight loglifting record with 180 kg. 2011 Baboumian competed at the loglifting world championship and placed 4th with a new German overall-record of 185 kg. On 21 May 2011 he lifted 190 kg in Turku, Finland winning the local competition. 2011 Baboumian also won the title of "Germany's Strongest Man" by winning the open division at the German strongman nationals.

Baboumian has been a vegetarian since 2005, and became a vegan in 2011. In November 2011 Baboumian became the new face of a campaign by the animal-rights organization PETA, advocating a vegan diet.

Do you hate people who eat meat? I love bananas too.

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November 24, 2014, 01:39:16 AM
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It is less of what we eat and more of how we eat it.  You take in the energy of the food you consume.  Eat animals that suffered, and their negative energy will pass onto you.  Eat an animal that lived a happy life with a habitable environment and a loving care taker, and their energy will be passed to you in a positive light.

And blessing food, by meditating for the being to become light, shows respect and love that the being's spirit will feel and reflect onto you.

It's less about saying words, but feeling gratitude and love towards the being you are consuming.

Factory farming is a loveless practice and completely unnecessary for our survival.

When the day comes that I have chickens, I will show them much love and it will be passed on through their eggs and lives.

Yes happy animals taste better.

Yes. If only we could eliminate the shock of death in animal systems when we slaughter them, they might be twice as nutritious, way more than plants, that have always been happy to be eaten, but don't provide enough nutrition to people.

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November 24, 2014, 01:53:47 AM
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That quote sounds like it was written by a 10 year old. lol Show us this "expert's" sources. (Sorry but, I do not trust your link.)

9 years on, I am definitely not a starvin marvin and neither is Freelee, the Banana Girl. Wink

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrik_Baboumian
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Patrik Baboumian (born 1 July 1979) is an Armenian-German strongman competitor, psychologist and former bodybuilder. Born in Abadan, Iran, at the age of seven Baboumian, along with his mother and grandmother, emigrated to Hattenhof, Germany. By the age of nine Baboumian had developed an interest in weight training, which led him to pursue bodybuilding as a young man. In 1999 he won the IFBB German junior bodybuilding championship, and in 2002 he became the overall junior champion at the Gießen Campions-Cup. Baboumian currently holds the world log lift record in the 105k-category (165 kg), as well as the German heavyweight loglift record (180 kg) and the title of "Strongest Man of Germany" (105 kg division). Since 2006 he has been competing at IFSA Strongman events. In 2007 Baboumian competed at the FSA -105 kg World Championships and ended up with a 14th place.

Since 2009, Baboumian holds the log lift World Record (-105 kg division). He lifted 162,5 kg in his second attempt in the German log lift nationals 2009. 2010 Baboumian also set a new German heavyweight loglifting record with 180 kg. 2011 Baboumian competed at the loglifting world championship and placed 4th with a new German overall-record of 185 kg. On 21 May 2011 he lifted 190 kg in Turku, Finland winning the local competition. 2011 Baboumian also won the title of "Germany's Strongest Man" by winning the open division at the German strongman nationals.

Baboumian has been a vegetarian since 2005, and became a vegan in 2011. In November 2011 Baboumian became the new face of a campaign by the animal-rights organization PETA, advocating a vegan diet.

Yes, I know that the guy, Jim Humble, doesn't have the best grammar, sentence structure, and spelling. But the content of his article is terrific. Is the content true? Only way to tell is to look up the articles and books in his bibliography.

The question isn't really about some strong man in Germany - a guy who has great self-disciplines. The question is more about how average people are affected by what they eat. What do the statistics show? Are there studies done on the general health and life expectancy of average vegetarians and non-vegetarians? If there are, are some studies done between average folks, on similar kinds of average jobs, showing how they are affected on their jobs?

In addition, even if vegetarians were in better shape all around, why should that take away from a person's right to do what he wants with his own property? I am not saying that vegetarians can't protest, as long as it doesn't adversely affect those being protested against. After all, folks should be allowed to do their own thing, even protesting, right? It would certainly be wrong for meat eaters to forcefully take your pet cow and eat it against your will.

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November 24, 2014, 11:53:13 AM
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I will never get how those people think...

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Zu leben um zu sterben? Na irgendwie trifft das auf jeden Menschen auch zu. Kommt drauf an was man dazwischen draus macht aus der Zeit die man kriegt. Unschön ist es natürlich schon wenn man jung sterben muss und vielleicht nicht mal ein schönes Leben hatte.

Ich sehe das philosophisch. Es gibt praktisch kein Leben dass nicht nur deswegen überlebt weil es anderes Leben verschlingt. Solange mir die Kuh nicht zeigen kann dass sie auch lebt ohne sich das Leben von Gras und Pflanzen einzuverleiben sehe ich es als notwendiges Übel des Lebens. Niemand überlebt ohne Leben zu nehmen. Punkt. Wäre schön wenn es anders wäre, geht es aber nicht.
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They are ok with using violence to get taxes. Why not use violence to get dinner on my plate?

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Zu leben um zu sterben? Na irgendwie trifft das auf jeden Menschen auch zu. Kommt drauf an was man dazwischen draus macht aus der Zeit die man kriegt. Unschön ist es natürlich schon wenn man jung sterben muss und vielleicht nicht mal ein schönes Leben hatte.

Ich sehe das philosophisch. Es gibt praktisch kein Leben dass nicht nur deswegen überlebt weil es anderes Leben verschlingt. Solange mir die Kuh nicht zeigen kann dass sie auch lebt ohne sich das Leben von Gras und Pflanzen einzuverleiben sehe ich es als notwendiges Übel des Lebens. Niemand überlebt ohne Leben zu nehmen. Punkt. Wäre schön wenn es anders wäre, geht es aber nicht.

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I see the philosophical. There is virtually no life that survived not only so because it devours another life. As long as I can not see the cow that she lives without the life of grass and plants incorporate I see it as a necessary evil of life. No one survives without taking life. Point. Would be nice if it were otherwise, but it does not work.

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It is less of what we eat and more of how we eat it.  You take in the energy of the food you consume.  Eat animals that suffered, and their negative energy will pass onto you.  Eat an animal that lived a happy life with a habitable environment and a loving care taker, and their energy will be passed to you in a positive light.

And blessing food, by meditating for the being to become light, shows respect and love that the being's spirit will feel and reflect onto you.

It's less about saying words, but feeling gratitude and love towards the being you are consuming.

Factory farming is a loveless practice and completely unnecessary for our survival.

When the day comes that I have chickens, I will show them much love and it will be passed on through their eggs and lives.

Yes happy animals taste better.

Yes. If only we could eliminate the shock of death in animal systems when we slaughter them, they might be twice as nutritious, way more than plants, that have always been happy to be eaten, but don't provide enough nutrition to people.

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You know beings that are at peace don't feel pain when they die?

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Zu leben um zu sterben? Na irgendwie trifft das auf jeden Menschen auch zu. Kommt drauf an was man dazwischen draus macht aus der Zeit die man kriegt. Unschön ist es natürlich schon wenn man jung sterben muss und vielleicht nicht mal ein schönes Leben hatte.

Ich sehe das philosophisch. Es gibt praktisch kein Leben dass nicht nur deswegen überlebt weil es anderes Leben verschlingt. Solange mir die Kuh nicht zeigen kann dass sie auch lebt ohne sich das Leben von Gras und Pflanzen einzuverleiben sehe ich es als notwendiges Übel des Lebens. Niemand überlebt ohne Leben zu nehmen. Punkt. Wäre schön wenn es anders wäre, geht es aber nicht.

To live to die? Well somehow this applies to every human being also. Depends on what you make of it between them from the time you're gonna get. Ugly it is of course if you have to die young and maybe not even had a good life.

I see the philosophical. There is virtually no life that survived not only so because it devours another life. As long as I can not see the cow that she lives without the life of grass and plants incorporate I see it as a necessary evil of life. No one survives without taking life. Point. Would be nice if it were otherwise, but it does not work.

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You actually don't need food to survive.  There are highly spiritual people on this planet that live off the sun's energy.  All you truly need is energy, it doesn't have to be from food.

Not saying these people have never eaten another being, just pointing out that it's not a hard coded necessity.

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November 24, 2014, 08:44:15 PM
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*lol* Im sorry for the german.

dank... i know which people you mean. Unfortunately you wont find someone who really can do this. Even the big guru's that claim they can do it were found cheating. So as of now i dont see a solution.

What i wrote in german is: Living only to die? I guess that even is true for every human. I think its important what you do with the time you get. Its not nice if one has to die young and maybe even didnt had a nice life of course.

I see it philosophical. Practically every lifeform only survives because it devours other life. As long as the cow cant show me, that she can life without devouring the life of grass and plants, i have to see it as a necessary evil of life. Noboday survives without taking other life! It would be nice if it would be different but it isnt.
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You actually don't need food to survive.  There are highly spiritual people on this planet that live off the sun's energy.  All you truly need is energy, it doesn't have to be from food.

Not saying these people have never eaten another being, just pointing out that it's not a hard coded necessity.

Everyone lives off the sun's energy, but it is by eating food. All food, whether plant or animal, provides energy that originated from the sun. Plants photosynthesize to grow, we eat them. Or plants photosynthesize to grow, animals eat them to grow, we eat them. Don't spread nonsense though. You actually do need food to survive.


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