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August 03, 2017, 06:40:30 PM
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Video could have been better but the conditions some of these animals lived in sucks, eating both plants/animals is largely unavoidable for most of population.  Stay away from mass produced meat where possible imo. 

You're right, many animals (battery chickens come to mind) are bred in very poor conditions, and I don't agree with this. I try to eat free-range and organic meat where possible, to support the practice of better conditions for animals and also because it tastes better.

This is one area where I think a small amount of government intervention could be a good thing - a true free market system would favour the cheapest (and therefore worst) possible living conditions for animals.

Amen. I live rural, you should see how bad the pork production industry is out here. They essentially bed in feces, its not appetizing at all LOL Its expensive in the supermarket, but there are a fair number of free range options out here, if you are willing to buy a quarter/half side of beef/pork at a time. Honestly, its alot to spend on meat at one time if you dont have a decent freezer and a decent sized family, but you can get prime cuts of beef for less than 4 bucks a pound (steaks and tender cuts).

I even saw a half side of Kobe beef on craigslist out here for 500. Came out to like 6 bucks a pound for the tenderest meat you will ever experience in your life.

Meat isn't evil. Its delicious. But our corporate farming practices are absolutely disgusting.

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August 03, 2017, 06:55:23 PM
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Video could have been better but the conditions some of these animals lived in sucks, eating both plants/animals is largely unavoidable for most of population.  Stay away from mass produced meat where possible imo. 

You're right, many animals (battery chickens come to mind) are bred in very poor conditions, and I don't agree with this. I try to eat free-range and organic meat where possible, to support the practice of better conditions for animals and also because it tastes better.

This is one area where I think a small amount of government intervention could be a good thing - a true free market system would favour the cheapest (and therefore worst) possible living conditions for animals.

Amen. I live rural, you should see how bad the pork production industry is out here. They essentially bed in feces, its not appetizing at all LOL Its expensive in the supermarket, but there are a fair number of free range options out here, if you are willing to buy a quarter/half side of beef/pork at a time. Honestly, its alot to spend on meat at one time if you dont have a decent freezer and a decent sized family, but you can get prime cuts of beef for less than 4 bucks a pound (steaks and tender cuts).

I even saw a half side of Kobe beef on craigslist out here for 500. Came out to like 6 bucks a pound for the tenderest meat you will ever experience in your life.

Meat isn't evil. Its delicious. But our corporate farming practices are absolutely disgusting.
As a child you went to the toilet without removing the pants. Now what with you not to greet? Before the meat hits the store shelves it is treated and pork is not dirtier than beef. By the way, cows also often lie in their feces. I am a supporter of vegetarianism, but I do not recognize such a position.

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August 03, 2017, 07:06:56 PM
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Video could have been better but the conditions some of these animals lived in sucks, eating both plants/animals is largely unavoidable for most of population.  Stay away from mass produced meat where possible imo.  

You're right, many animals (battery chickens come to mind) are bred in very poor conditions, and I don't agree with this. I try to eat free-range and organic meat where possible, to support the practice of better conditions for animals and also because it tastes better.

This is one area where I think a small amount of government intervention could be a good thing - a true free market system would favour the cheapest (and therefore worst) possible living conditions for animals.

Amen. I live rural, you should see how bad the pork production industry is out here. They essentially bed in feces, its not appetizing at all LOL Its expensive in the supermarket, but there are a fair number of free range options out here, if you are willing to buy a quarter/half side of beef/pork at a time. Honestly, its alot to spend on meat at one time if you dont have a decent freezer and a decent sized family, but you can get prime cuts of beef for less than 4 bucks a pound (steaks and tender cuts).

I even saw a half side of Kobe beef on craigslist out here for 500. Came out to like 6 bucks a pound for the tenderest meat you will ever experience in your life.

Meat isn't evil. Its delicious. But our corporate farming practices are absolutely disgusting.
As a child you went to the toilet without removing the pants. Now what with you not to greet? Before the meat hits the store shelves it is treated and pork is not dirtier than beef. By the way, cows also often lie in their feces. I am a supporter of vegetarianism, but I do not recognize such a position.

I apologize if you observe a culture that does not embrace beef/pork, I did not mean to offend. This is why im referring to free range meat, the quality standard is much higher and animals are not allowed to pasture in filth. Most things outside in nature have a little shit on them, shit is a nutrient. It kinda comes with the territory. Better quality organic vegetables and fruits are fertilized in the States with manure teas, literally, shit water. To be honest, the product it produces is much preferable to those raised with commercial synthetics.

For the record, i havent met too much meat I dont eat, on pricnciple. I am a fan of pork, Im not knocking it. Bacon is divine.

You are underestimating the severity of the poor conditions of these animals.


Its easier to pull shit like this with chickens and pork, you can raise them indoors. Cows take too much space, they must be pastured even if crowded.

TLDR I own a 1.5 acre farm, and I live between two 10+ acre farms that have livestock (I dont keep livestock). Trust me on this.



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August 18, 2017, 04:12:26 PM
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PETA Pays $50,000 After STEALING and KILLING a Little Girl’s Dog








The company settled the lawsuit, avoiding a trial in which Mr Zarate’s lawyers intended to ask the company about its past and present euthanasia policy.

Peta in the settlement agreed to pay the family $49,000 and donate $2,000 to a local branch of the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (SPCA) to honour Maya.

Mr Zarate had originally sought up to $7m.

The family’s attorney, William H Shewmake, said: “The Zarates felt that the settlement reflects the grievous loss of their beloved Maya. And it allows the Zarates to bring some closure to a very painful chapter of their lives. They’re glad the case has been settled.”

Both parties said in a joint statement: “Peta again apologises and expresses its regrets to the Zarate family for the loss of their dog Maya. Mr Zarate acknowledges that this was an unfortunate mistake by Peta and the individuals involved, with no ill will toward the Zarate family.”


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/17/peta-pays-family-50000-taking-euthanising-pet-chihuahua/



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August 18, 2017, 06:13:23 PM
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Life is a circle, for all creatures on earth. For many, the circle completes quite fast. Other are fortunate enough to have it stretched out a bit, like humans for example (top-of-food-chain-participants). First you eat, and later  when you're done, after much eating, your remains will be composted, and you will be eaten - it's a eat and be eaten world, it always comes full circle in the end - beautiful.

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August 18, 2017, 08:49:03 PM
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We as a society will not respect the rights of animals because we don't recognize human rights properly yet.

Sadly truth! Your comment deserves to be quoted many times, we just need to look around and we will see that chaos is almost everywhere. How many people don`t have a roof over their heads, how many people are starving this evening? Where is the respect between people?
There is a saying satisfied man doesn`t understand a hungry ones. And that is what is happening in this world, and what people respect today? Money, power it`s all about that, who thinks about poor people, who thinks about nature? Who will think about this poor animals? Who will think about all that when we don`t even think about us and our kids, what kind of planet will be if this wars continue and corporations continue to destroy this planet where we live? When I think about this things I`m honestly afraid where this world is going...


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October 11, 2017, 05:59:51 PM
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Vegans Target Asheville, NC Whole-Animal Butchery Class With Death Threats









Vegans are again protesting an Asheville-area whole-animal butchery class, attended by backyard farmers, professional chefs and amateur cooks.

Natalie Bogwalker, the woman behind the sustainable skills school at the heart of the debate, said she’s receiving emails and phone calls threatening her with physical harm, and even death.

“(There are) a lot of people hoping we die a painful death, wishing people would slit our throats, and saying that we’re sick and demented,” said Bogwalker, director of Wild Abundance. “I try to keep a good attitude about it, but it’s pretty challenging.”

Wild Abundance is a Barnardsville school teaching skills including carpentry, basket weaving, wild-food cookery and soap-making. In early November, the school plans to host a weekend class, Cycles of Life, that teaches students how to slaughter a 100-pound sheep and then use the entirety of the animal.

A release from the North American Animal Liberation Press Office, which circulates statements from often-anonymous animal rights groups, earlier this month expressed outrage over the class.

“Innocent sheep will be coldly and cruelly murdered November 4th by two women who apparently are unfamiliar with the term oxymoron,” the unsigned release said.

The statement asserted that the idea of “humane slaughter” is a contradiction in terms, and positioned animal rights activists as coming from a place of compassion.

The release also urged other activists to “register disgust and outrage with the perpetrators of this senseless, needless and bloody violence,” publishing contact information for Bogwalker and others involved with the class.



http://www.citizen-times.com/story/news/local/2017/10/10/animal-rights-activists-target-asheville-school-death-threats/746732001/


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October 19, 2017, 10:51:21 AM
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We're talking about animals here, not plants, right?
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October 19, 2017, 04:19:19 PM
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if animals in the cattle I think it's okay, but wild animals must be protected because the existence of wild animals today is getting less because of the many poachers. So wild animals must be protected in my opinion.

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Every living thing has feelings and so on, inclydin vwgetable, it's just that they canr show their fellings (vegetables). It is ok to have you opinnion but thouse technics to promote their selfs are a bit to much. The human speacy evolved when they made the first grill. Dont take it personaly but they should be more socialy when they want to protest.

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October 20, 2017, 04:41:22 AM
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Every living thing has feelings and so on, inclydin vwgetable, it's just that they canr show their fellings (vegetables). It is ok to have you opinnion but thouse technics to promote their selfs are a bit to much. The human speacy evolved when they made the first grill. Dont take it personaly but they should be more socialy when they want to protest.

And we are in such a sad condition! After all, we don't want to harm any living thing, even a microbe.

But if we go on living, our natural immune systems kill all kinds of microbes in our bodies daily. And if we take our life (suicide), we still kill a bunch of microbes by not leaving them with the living body that they need (our living body) just to keep on living, themselves.

And after we die, the embalmers at the morgue or funeral home inject us with all kinds of preservative poisons that kill off a whole array of new microbes that are just learning how to live in our dead bodies.

Oh, woe is me. I am in such a pathetic, miserable state. If I live I kill microbes, and if I die I kill microbes.

I might as well go on living, and killing off the plants and animals that I eat. I mean, what is my life in all this living and dying? It doesn't mean anything one way or another! I'm such a killer.

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October 21, 2017, 01:17:47 AM
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Possibly Bitcoin should be marketed with the disclaimer: NO animal has been harmed in the mining of these 20+ Millions of Bitcoins.

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