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April 23, 2016, 12:24:43 PM
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experts and devs only please - POS3 or POSP are these the best yet of the POS ..
Let's not get into a pump discussion of particular coins. Let's just discuss the tech.

POS3 (rat4)

POSP (elambert)

These are the best yet of the POS systems?

What are the pros and negs of each vs each other or vs vanilla POS.

Also what are the advantage of

POS + POW  vs Pure POS of any kind.

Are their other variations that are as good or have advantages over either of these?

Let's not just hear POS is trash compared to POW. That is not the discussion here. I would like to see if anyone knows which of all the POS variations is best and for what reasons.

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April 23, 2016, 12:26:44 PM
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seems if you get a book then your a viable coin

i think all those above are still around and kickin

They look great and would fit into my crypto collection. I am most interested in ShadowCash and NXT books but I can't find them on ebay. As soon as I get some BTC, I will look into into of these in different stores.

P.S. If you happen to know where to find them, feel free to send me the link of the store selling them.  Smiley

damn you memory!
if i can find will post;
but 2 be honest nothing in crypto is just yet ready for old fashion print
but we are starting to figure who is who!


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http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=dp_byline_sr_book_1?ie=UTF8&text=Christopher+P+Thompson&search-alias=books&field-author=Christopher+P+Thompson&sort=relevancerank

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April 23, 2016, 12:32:47 PM
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round 1
i beg for funding of a legitimate capital ranking

so many icos and general scum have resurfaced that only TALK inc. might be able to sort out

really just need a server able to handle moderate traffic just in case

WILL PLEDGE TALK as certificate for redemption  

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April 23, 2016, 10:05:37 PM
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I have some of the delisted currency BCC in poloniex, is that withdrawable to this network?

KNC - KingNcoin - rare, fair, pos only https://yobit.net/en/trade/KNC/BTC
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I have some of the delisted currency BCC in poloniex, is that withdrawable to this network?

 ya it should work fine, just send a small amt. first   Wink

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April 26, 2016, 10:27:58 AM
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types of POS

1. stage1 coin creation (premine. ninjamine. fastmine. slowmine)
2. min hold max hold
3. reward scheme (split blocks, max reward)
4. mem usage
5. tor / messagers / other add ons


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examples

POS3 (rat4) Black
POSP (elambert) CBX
FLT_velocity
PoS II from MagiCoin & NobleCoin ... declining reward if you don't stake within 2 weeks
NET
PoSA3 [cloak]
highyield [hyp, tek, cap, hobo, turbo]
noyield [open]

Nova_forks [black ya star pac yb vpn]
Peer_forks [t3k emc dem floz turbo]
black_forks [jbs club coinaid]
CAP_forks [asia]
ya_forks [zcc cach cent]
SummerCoin_forks [swift block html stv pink capt kobo sync sgr tor gb craig shld glyph cnl nimbus lsd]
ecc_forks [enrg banx, super, Xiaomi comm sembro cool pmp]
minerals_fork [influx]
grow_forks [audio whip]
testcoin_fork [moin pkb steps unit swing btcd]
mountcoin_forks [xmg kore sonic kuma mint]
ags_fork [synergy]
key_fork []
dark [gue]
saturn
judge
vanilla_POS
nuc TOR
bitz [mojo]
pimp [okcash]
BTS_delgates
NXT2.0
dmd
hyp
jbs

re: kinds of POS features
The field is wide and varies.

You have:

-super high inflation 'Hyper Stakes' they create an active staking network but the spot price is wild.
-low inflation ... i personally like the 1-5% rate
-long hold before you can stake
-long confirm before you can spend
-quick to stake, low min. holds
-fixed amount per block rewards
-reduced over time % rates
-FLT did something with money velocity
-block splitting
-heavy memory use (this is kinda like high diff or cost of electricity)
-low memory use, so you can still use the PC/laptop as it stakes
-or super popular coins (likely un-stake-able to new guys)

My personal goal is to find the staking coin that has low interset yield, fast staking, easy staking so if you invest under $100 you will likely be able to stake a block in under 1 hour, fair market exposure, dev, community, web resources, a Kiklo's Premium Bootstrap.dat listing, and maybe an Android app.

Still haven't found that coin yet.

But part of the goal of TALK is to find the best POS coins, if not make it ourselves.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=864994

I'd avoid coins that are mostly dominated by staking pools ... 3rd party/hacker risk could cause major issues.

POS discussion wise..

benefits of PoS is defense against rogue PoW hash.
for any "low value" shit coin.. this is very useful to keep the blocks reasonably consistent rather than at the mercy of anyone with a vaguely mediocre farm.

we went with constant block rewards because it is a simple way to encourage more staking inputs.

with many coins, it's more profitable to keep your coins in a single input, quicker to stake meaning higher compounding return.
not good for network Sad
with constant reward it is more profitable to earn more stakes over time than the quick bang .. good for network Smiley

i recall reading some discussion on removing coinweight from calculations, which also encourage more staking inputs .. was that PoS2?


ref.

https://minkiz.co/coin/cmcap-pos
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1431805.msg14486879#msg14486879 kiklo    
experts and devs only please - POS3 or POSP are these the best yet of the POS ..
Let's not get into a pump discussion of particular coins. Let's just discuss the tech.
POS3 (rat4)
POSP (elambert)

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Proof-of-Stake [POS] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1451485.0

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April 26, 2016, 12:55:12 PM
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never seen this forum page before,came over from bata post,have been staking for years
this page would have come in handy

have some more pos i didn't see on your list

1. steps https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173385.0
2. parkbyte https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1052732.0
3. 1337 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1319833.0
4. bigup https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1367075.0
5. mastertrader https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=954240.0
6. digicube https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1211692.0
7. salus https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1317448.0
8. DubaiCoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1372193.0
9. vip token https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1377198.0

big thumbs up on forum page
you have done a great job ,lots of info  Smiley

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"It's better to have loved and lost,then paid for it and not enjoyed."
@take_off
welcome to Le Club Wink


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   Bitstamp Becomes the World's First Nationally Licensed Bitcoin Exchange

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types of POS

1. stage1 coin creation (premine. ninjamine. fastmine. slowmine)
2. min hold max hold
3. reward scheme (split blocks, max reward)
4. mem usage
5. tor / messagers / other add ons


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examples

POS3 (rat4) Black
POSP (elambert) CBX
FLT_velocity
PoS II from MagiCoin & NobleCoin ... declining reward if you don't stake within 2 weeks
NET
PoSA3 [cloak]
highyield [hyp, tek, cap, hobo, turbo]
noyield [open]

Nova_forks [black ya star pac yb vpn]
Peer_forks [t3k emc dem floz turbo]
black_forks [jbs club coinaid]
CAP_forks [asia]
ya_forks [zcc cach cent]
SummerCoin_forks [swift block html stv pink capt kobo sync sgr tor gb craig shld glyph cnl nimbus lsd]
ecc_forks [enrg banx, super, Xiaomi comm sembro cool pmp]
minerals_fork [influx]
grow_forks [audio whip]
testcoin_fork [moin pkb steps unit swing btcd]
mountcoin_forks [xmg kore sonic kuma mint]
ags_fork [synergy]
key_fork []
dark [gue]
saturn
judge
vanilla_POS
nuc TOR
bitz [mojo]
pimp [okcash]
BTS_delgates
NXT2.0
dmd
hyp
jbs

ref.

https://minkiz.co/coin/cmcap-pos
--
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1431805.msg14486879#msg14486879 kiklo    
experts and devs only please - POS3 or POSP are these the best yet of the POS ..
Let's not get into a pump discussion of particular coins. Let's just discuss the tech.
POS3 (rat4)
POSP (elambert)


Good reference. This has helped me keep track of every PoS coin and thus choose one according to my likings. Thanks for sharing this useful information.

Say I was going to ask, is there any exchange available for BTCTalkcoin? I think I am going to grab some cheap coins just to hold them for long term  Grin

 

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Posted on: Today at 12:45:38 PM Posted by: groggin


YES!

TALK exchange traded here for BTC or micro
https://alcurex.org/index.php/crypto/index
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April 27, 2016, 03:13:52 PM
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  Bitstamp Becomes the World's First Nationally Licensed Bitcoin Exchange
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitstamp-becomes-worlds-first-nationally-licensed-bitcoin-exchange/

And Japan is making motions to recognize BTC as a type of money.  Hope they under score that by turning magical tux into sushi.

Plus the wikivoss Twins have a licensed NYC exchange.

Shit is get authoritatively real.  Institutional money is going to swing into the game.

Part of the vision is having vetted veterans of crypto (aka BCT long term players), loosely organized, "I will consult for TALK" ... Wink

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April 28, 2016, 04:40:18 AM
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MINT b.e. expires
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/mint/

imo
+$100K you should have a chainz
+$1000k you must have a chainz

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April 28, 2016, 07:57:59 AM
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TALK
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i've had some hardware 'issues'
then i decided to download the chain (painful) but some exchanges require that ability(no bootstrap allowed) so i was checking to make sure true; and if you are super super patient you can download the whole friggin chain.

so long story, i'm able to tip again, and if i owe anyone from the past weeks, remind me

RIGHT NOW if you have staked any blocks in April make sure to PM me the address will do some staker/miner bonus tipping Wink

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April 28, 2016, 05:27:30 PM
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Guys, need some more active voting at c-cex!   https://c-cex.com/?id=vote
and cryptopia! https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Vote
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April 29, 2016, 07:26:11 AM
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not paying much attention Smiley

but POS discussion wise..

benefits of PoS is defense against rogue PoW hash.
for any "low value" shit coin.. this is very useful to keep the blocks reasonably consistent rather than at the mercy of anyone with a vaguely mediocre farm.


we went with constant block rewards because it is a simple way to encourage more staking inputs.

with many coins, it's more profitable to keep your coins in a single input, quicker to stake meaning higher compounding return.
not good for network Sad
with constant reward it is more profitable to earn more stakes over time than the quick bang .. good for network Smiley

i recall reading some discussion on removing coinweight from calculations, which also encourage more staking inputs .. was that PoS2?


--
also LOCO is a current "new" staking coin. it's actually left its seriously high return periods but is still high.
dev developed some personal issues just after release, but is still around, and suggests he will be back in the saddle in the next few days.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1438233


currently on block 31706


Block    0 - 5000 = 0 coins Per block
Block 5001 - 7500 = 100,000 %
Block 7501 - 10,000 = 75,0000 %
Block 10,001 - 12,500 = 50,000 %
block 12,501 - 15,000 = 25,0000 %
Block 15,001 - 17,500 = 10,000 %
Block 17,501 - 20,000 = 5,000 %
block 20,001 - 22,500 = 2,500 %
Block 22,501 - 25,000 = 1,000 %
Block 25,001 - 30,000 = 500 %
Block 30,001 - 60,000 = 250%
Block 60,001 - 120,000 = 100%
block 120,001 Onwards is set to 50% Per Year

PoW constant reward of 5 coins/block



edit.
actually, there were some "benefits" to the dev not being entirely present.
the minimum stake age during the first 20k blocks or so was accidentally set to 24hrs rather than the 6hr in the OP.
this resulted in most blocks during that period being earned via PoW rather than a massive spike in growth via PoS.

one could only hope for possibly two stakes during each mega high reward section rather than eight or so.

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April 29, 2016, 05:45:25 PM
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my pick of the day
https://www.parkbyte.com/

dev has stuck with the project, always thought "Parking yeah right!" but looks like the the guy is skilled at doing things.


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April 29, 2016, 06:00:34 PM
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my pick of the day
https://www.parkbyte.com/

dev has stuck with the project, always thought "Parking yeah right!" but looks like the the guy is skilled at doing things.


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like the brand LOCO  Wink

great pick ,held since day 1
one of the few low staking coins i let run 24/7
and nice to see a project with a specific goal and devoted dev



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April 30, 2016, 06:15:33 AM
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Get yourself one of these::

http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G145457216438

Mine is running 5 daemons right now with very little resources consumed, but obviously, mileage varies
$40
cheaper than renting a server for a year :/
and i doubt POW_ASIC 'sticks' will get cheaper than that too

matter of time until there are ODROID rent-a-farms

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May 01, 2016, 06:51:24 AM
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Guys, need some more active voting at c-cex!   https://c-cex.com/?id=vote
and cryptopia! https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Vote

be careful with submiting to cryptopia
WE NEED A WEBSITE FIRST!
hex will fail the review and it is a bitch getting him to re-review Wink
website doesn't need to be much (one page free bee will do) ((also bit silly for TALK to be based here at BCT needing a stand alone website ... but those are the rules))  

ccex ... yeah VOTE ... likely will take some BTC to win but you never know

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scratch that somehow we are vote approved on cryptopia! https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Vote
hit it!  Grin

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