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April 06, 2016, 12:12:05 PM
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I know alcurex is in the process of releasing a new site.  I believe it is expected to be live in the next month or so.

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April 07, 2016, 06:02:34 AM
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still waiting for reply from Yobit
been days, and several emails
any news?? Smiley

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April 07, 2016, 10:44:19 AM
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still waiting for reply from Yobit
been days, and several emails
any news?? Smiley

No.
I have no human reply from yobit.
I have sent 4 different messages asking for a simply reply.
If the community wants to risk 0.1btc be advised UNO coin paided that and got nothing in return.
Yobit just stole $40 in community funds from UNO.
You have to pay to submit the coin.  My read is that Yobit raises too many red flags and is high risk.


TALK can likely pickup a cryptopia listing via DOT votes for 0.1 (or less)
(but we need a website, nothing fancy, just a website)


https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Forum/Thread/614 (yobit up date)

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April 07, 2016, 02:33:38 PM
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OPERATION SALVAGE
any coins out there that TALK community can save? help?

i have a few in mind, but rather hear opinions first Wink

coincidental
Team Fly has launched a new service. Our "BE FLY" Block Explorer.
This service is unique in many ways. First it only accepts fly coin as payment. Also we have scouters out there looking for coins that have no block explorer that are alive. We actually pay to these users 1 fly for each link to an ann with a live active coin that has no explorer. 1 fly doesnt sound like much until you know that the average price of fly has been 100,000 sats.
This offer is open to anyone!!! Simply post a link of an active coin that is alive and working and gets atleast 1 post a day every day, and does not have a block explorer posted on their ann page. POST THE LINK HERE, PM me your fly address , as addresses are not all
To learn more about fly see our main ann thread:
Vegas

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April 07, 2016, 07:12:31 PM
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YES!

TALK exchange traded here for BTC or micro
https://alcurex.org/index.php/crypto/index
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April 08, 2016, 06:22:16 AM
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OPERATION SALVAGE
any coins out there that TALK community can save? help?

i have a few in mind, but rather hear opinions first Wink


Premine+ PMP needs some TLC. Very interesting in it's day


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=673760.1660
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April 08, 2016, 06:42:32 AM
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OPERATION SALVAGE
any coins out there that TALK community can save? help?

i have a few in mind, but rather hear opinions first Wink


 i liked this one, vegancoin, a niche currency, i was mining it abt a year ago, nothing special here, algo is sha256, it's very fast, but the network is dead, (last i looked, maybe 6-7 months ago), the website is gone, but you can still get the wallet on sourceforge -
https://sourceforge.net/projects/vegancoin/
i mined for several months, on a live network but with low hash and diff, so was able to cpu mine w/my laptop, to the tune of about 1% of the money supply, of which i'd happily donate ~25% to fund a revival  Tongue
                                                                              

here is the bct ANN          https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=726088.0

[edit] i guess there is still a website, lol    http://veganporn.com/

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April 08, 2016, 07:01:01 AM
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Maintenance
POS coin on Cryptopia in Maintenance

dem
t3k
hyper
FLY

on Bittrex
dead: CCN, viral
delayed: DOPE, ERC, LXC
inactive: FTC

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April 08, 2016, 10:03:24 AM
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OPERATION SALVAGE
any coins out there that TALK community can save? help?
i have a few in mind, but rather hear opinions first Wink
Premine+ PMP needs some TLC. Very interesting in it's day
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=673760.1660

PMP has nice graphics, live network?

i like that vegan is SHA256 and there are other POWs in need of aid, will keep in mind, focus is still POS first:

my idea

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/fail/#!crypto
 FAIL is a good coin as far as i can tell ... so we all start buying and staking FAIL and start picking up 'fail' coins and putting them back on their feet Wink  profits aid TALK and FAIL

my pick
CACHe https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1072284.msg14375584#msg14375584
it has been dev abandoned since July, despite the trainwreck Vertoe created a good wallet, plus the old one works, lots of market history, really  just needs a seednode funded and hobby stakers, then see what happens after that.

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59:00 - He (Szabo) wishes Ethereum would not switch to proof-of-stake. He speculates about combining proof-of-work with proof-of-stake, but gives no details.

I've thought long about this issue before.  Since mining is inherently a futures market, there are many ways you can try to replicate this feature, either with time opportunity costs, or proof of burn combined with strange economic systems.  Most of the methods of trying to do so with time opportunity costs just replicate some form of proof of stake and create another closed entropy, permissioned ledger like all proof of stake coins.  However, you might be able to utilize proof of burn and some weird economic system to combine the two while still being an open entropy, permissionless ledger.

I say "weird economic system" for a reason, because the last time anyone tried making a coin like this was "Slimcoin", and I think people proof of burned half the entire money supply just for the fuck of it.

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For the last 4 months, the biggest thing happened is the pump of the Ethereum. It was pumped from $0.8 to $14.

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April 10, 2016, 04:16:37 AM
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experts and devs only please - POS3 or POSP are these the best yet of the POS ..
Let's not get into a pump discussion of particular coins. Let's just discuss the tech.

POS3 (rat4)

POSP (elambert)

These are the best yet of the POS systems?

What are the pros and negs of each vs each other or vs vanilla POS.

Also what are the advantage of

POS + POW  vs Pure POS of any kind.

Are their other variations that are as good or have advantages over either of these?

Let's not just hear POS is trash compared to POW. That is not the discussion here. I would like to see if anyone knows which of all the POS variations is best and for what reasons.

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April 10, 2016, 04:52:02 AM
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experts and devs only please - POS3 or POSP are these the best yet of the POS ..
Let's not get into a pump discussion of particular coins. Let's just discuss the tech.

POS3 (rat4)

POSP (elambert)

These are the best yet of the POS systems?

What are the pros and negs of each vs each other or vs vanilla POS.

Also what are the advantage of

POS + POW  vs Pure POS of any kind.

Are their other variations that are as good or have advantages over either of these?

Let's not just hear POS is trash compared to POW. That is not the discussion here. I would like to see if anyone knows which of all the POS variations is best and for what reasons.

sorry i'm NOT an expert or dev, but here's my .02BCC anyway

PoSP is gr8 because staking nodes gets paid more if fewer stakers exist, imo pos 2 is a pain, wallet wants to run continuously foreva, or at least come out for air every few days - what are the differences w/PoS3?

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April 10, 2016, 06:43:19 AM
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i'm NOT an 'expert' either; but i think many of the TALK members have a great deal of 'staking experience'.

my .02BCC
still like the old POS because it doesn't eat all of a systems memory
Vanilla has impressed me with being 'light'

And I like the stakes that have quick staking time (say hours and coins are mature for staking) coupled with a max reward; that lets smaller coin holders get rewards as it also limits what whales can get.  

In the end I am just watching and waiting to see what is the best.  TALK works, the current goal is get more participants.  Then when the time is right pick the best [POS3,POSp,etc] and fork to something nicer.  No rush.  I think it is x1000 times more important to get the right business model and right team assembled before attempting to improve the code(fork).

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April 10, 2016, 11:06:04 AM
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PoS verses PoS3 (Blackcoin)

This removes coin age and moves to number of confirmations, as to whether it is more or less secure than the original ,
currently unknown, it seems more secure, however without coin age it may make the coin more susceptible to a 51% attack where someone tries to purchase the coins outright, because it kind of removes the Chaos factor that protect the original PoS.
(Chaos Factor: Even thru you know how many coins there are, you don't know their weight or when they will be staking.)

Main Issue for the Blackcoin design is purely economic ,
1. interest rate is too low , at 1% per year it is a crappy investment
2. Minimum Time before staking is too short which allows the rich to monopolize the Staking Process and actually crowd out poorer investors delaying their stakes.


PoS verse PoSP (Crypto Bullion)

Both still use coin age , so security should basically be the same.
After looking at their Whitepaper.
http://cryptobullion.io/white-paper/

It has a similar issue with allowing staking to start too soon (1 hour) 
which allows the rich to monopolize the Staking Process and actually crowd out poorer investors delaying their stakes.
Also there is an underlying incentive to DDOS other PoSP users so that your own staking will receive a higher % of the staking.

PoS Specs do matter , longer minimum stake times are required to keep the wealthy from monopolizing the Staking Process
Which the current PoS3 & PoSP ignore, which will decrease their adoption rate by the majority of less wealthy users and hurt them in the long run.
(In one economic regard, they function like PoW, only the wealthy will see the most profit.)
(However if they increased their minimum stake age to 15 days or more , they could remove that issue.)
(They could also increase their interest rate to 5% per year and be a decent competition to Utility Stocks.)

 Cool

FYI:
You forgot PoS II from MagiCoin & NobleCoin
They have a declining reward if you don't stake within 2 weeks or so .
Where if you have the wallet offline for more than 4 weeks, you have to send all of your coins back to yourself to reset their age , so you receive a higher stake.
Oddly enough , it was designed to make sure more people staked, but with only a few hours needed before staking ,it also favors the wealthy holders, but makes them stay online more so they don't lose stake rewards.

FYI2:
Of the 4 coins mentioned above , the top choice if you want to actually earn, is Noblecoin with a 8% per year interest rate.
You just need to stake every 2 or 3 days and keep between 1½ million to 2 million Noble per block to stake effectively.
Noble also has a nice difficulty #s , so it is secure from the history attack worries.
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/nobl/

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April 11, 2016, 06:21:05 AM
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OPERATION SALVAGE
any coins out there that TALK community can save? help?

i have a few in mind, but rather hear opinions first Wink


KryptKoin - KTK
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=606809.0

The dev got serously ill and all the development got hallted.
It had a very active community and some good services in the past.
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POS of interest
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1435878.0
Coin name CryptoClub
Ticker CCB
algo X11
blocktime  1minute
retarget  EVERYblock
mature after 50blocks
PoS Rate 5% annualy

got a new thread / community takeover?

not sure but
i like 5%
i like the multiple market placements
i like that it is relatively old for POS

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Bittrex made the following announcement about de-listing of some alt-coins:

Thank you for using bittrex.com.

We will be removing the following wallets on 05/01/2016. Once removed, we will not be able to retrieve your funds. Please remove all coins ASAP. Note, that some of these coins have broken blockchains where we will not be able to send coins.

No exceptions will be made once the wallets are removed.

     Notice: The following wallets will be removed. Please withdrawal any coins you may have in these wallets.
Symbol   Coin Name
ASN   Ascension
AXIOM   Axiom
CF   Californium
CRAVE   Crave
DIBS   Dibbits
GEN   Genstake
GSM   GSMCoin
HYP   HyperStake
KOBO   KoboCoin
LDOGE   LiteDogecoin
M1   SupplyShock
NKT   Nakas
OCTO   OCTO
OPAL   OpalCoin
SHELL   ShellCoin
XRA   RateCoin
XSI   StabilitySharesXSI

     Notice: The following wallets will be removed due to broken block chains.  These coins cannot be withdrawn.
Symbol   Coin Name
BST   BitStone
BTCRY   BitCrystal
CHILD   X-Children
CIRC   CryptoCircuits
DRKT   DarkTron
DUB   Dubstep
GLOBE   Global
GRAV   Graviton
GRM   GridmasterCoin
IBITS   iBits
KTK   KryptKoin ?what do they do with the coins?
MACRO   MACRO
MYST   MystCoin
OMC   Omnicoin
SHIBE   ShibeCoin
VMC   VirtualMiningCoin
XBS   BitStake
XWT   WorldTradeFunds

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PoS verses PoS3 (Blackcoin) ... this is released already?

PoSP (Crypto Bullion) ... v2.3.3 ... still crashes on me ... i don't care ... i like the formula ... think it is a winner just still a little buggy


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