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[libertaad]

I haven't played your roulette yet, but I just wanted to say thank you for the explanation of how you assess risk of ruin. I found it very interesting.

Thanks! I almost felt bad to launch roulette so shortly after making that post, because I wanted to continue discussing it But instead I had to derail the conversation, haha.

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[ErebusBat]

I haven't played your roulette yet, but I just wanted to say thank you for the explanation of how you assess risk of ruin. I found it very interesting.

+1 as well... I love this kind of explanation and transparency.  And now that you have more than BJ I might actually 'give' you some money!

[titeuf_87]

I haven't had the chance to play with real bitcoins yet, but I did with play money and I noticed a small bug: while the ball is spinning, it is possible to click on clear bets button. This increases your balance again, although once the ball is done spinning it gets corrected and you see the correct amount again.

Also I agree with Casascius's about the popup dialog: I think it would be better if it only shows when you click on an already placed bet. Although you already answered that point

For the rest, great job! I love the clean, minimalistic design of bitZino and the way roulette is implemented fits in nicely.

[ErebusBat]

Playing around some more... I think it would be helpful to know how much you have on the table.

[dooglus]

Also I'd like to see the 'x2 +1 -1 1/2' buttons next to the 'bet per click' box, just like there are for the bet sizing box for blackjack.

Yeah, this does actually make sense. We're going to have to re-think the popup box somewhat though - I don't want to make it too much bigger. We'll see what we can come up with.

I'm talking about the 'bet per click' box, not the bet sizing box, in case you misunderstood.

Although I think I'd also like to see the full set of 4 buttons in the bet sizing box, not just the 2 to make the bets bigger.

I comped you a quarter BTC, Dooglus for being so helpful with the bug reports and suggestions. Keep it coming though!

Thanks.  I'm sure you'll have it all back soon. 

I just noticed I have to click 4 times per spin if I want to double my previous bet:
1) repeat last
2) click bet
3) click x2
4) spin

It's a little cumbersome compared to doing the same on blackjack (where I think I can just click x2 and then play) but then roulette is more complex than blackjack when it comes to placing bets.

How about an "auto repeat last" checkbox?

I like the changes you've made.  The focus in the text input box is good, but I still have to delete the previous bet.  It's conceivable that I'd type my new bet but forget to delete the previous bet, and end up with something huge in the field.  Would it be better to have the old amount selected, so that typing will delete it?

Finally, I notice that the spin animation freezes for a split second shortly before it stops.  I'm guessing that happens when you get the winning number from the server.  At that point the "repeat last" button stops being greyed out, and the "spinning" button changes back to "spin".  But the animation continues after the UI has updated.  It's a little distracting, and would look smoother if the updates were done after the spin finishes, not during the spin.

[dooglus]

I noticed a small bug: while the ball is spinning, it is possible to click on clear bets button. This increases your balance again, although once the ball is done spinning it gets corrected and you see the correct amount again.

I noticed it's possible to place bets while the wheel is spinning; these decrease your balance, but are corrected when the spin is complete.  It would be better to disable both the placing and clearing of bets while the spin is happening.

I comped you a quarter BTC, Dooglus for being so helpful with the bug reports and suggestions. Keep it coming though!

Thanks.  I'm sure you'll have it all back soon. 

And it's gone...

Just as I predicted.

I bet 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128 mBTC all on red, and got black every time.  The final red was the dust I had left - I couldn't afford to double up again, and it quickly disappeared too:

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[ErebusBat]

Enter "Stop Cheating" in the client seed.

[IveBeenBit]

Enter "Stop Cheating" in the client seed.

That is my secret that I shared with the forum a few weeks ago and it works every time as long as you don't abuse it.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=87656.msg1053544#msg1053544

[KajiMaster]

I'm having a difficult time pulling myself away from roulette to post on here.  But Awesome JOB! I'm so excited to see your craps game now.  It's incredible to see this quality of a service in the bitcoin community.

My critique.  The bet box gets in the way for people who like to play the inside.  Maybe i'm the only one.  But i have to hit enter on the key board to get the value to take 1... I should be able to set a default price and click my bet on many options.  If the box had to stay make it vanish when clicking it. But that would just add 1 extra click per bet. But it at least needs more than a key board exit.

I would pay for your games to be on an android app!

-kaji

[ErebusBat]

Enter "Stop Cheating" in the client seed.

That is my secret that I shared with the forum a few weeks ago and it works every time as long as you don't abuse it.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=87656.msg1053544#msg1053544

True Story.... I wasn't going to go looking but I did get the idea from you!

[libertaad]

We just pushed a change that fixes many of the bugs people have been mentioning:

- The animation time for fading out lost bets has been lengthened
- The spin button no longer "flashes" in the middle of the spin
- When the popup shows up, the text for the bet is now selected.
- You can now close the popup box by clicking on any of the empty area inside of it. I hope this is a good solution for people that like to bet the inside.

I'm talking about the 'bet per click' box, not the bet sizing box, in case you misunderstood.

Ah yes, I did mis-read your original post. We experimented with adding these buttons next to the Bet-per-click box, but found that they were somewhat confusing - it was unclear if it doubled the bets on the currently table, or if it just doubled the bet-per-click. In the end, we decided that doubling the bet-per-click isn't really necessary, so it was better to just remove that part of the UI altogether.

However, we agree that it would be nice if you could double all of your current bets....

I just noticed I have to click 4 times per spin if I want to double my previous bet

Yeah, this is not ideal. We are exploring a UI to allow you to make actions on all of your bets on the table (something like a "double all by bets" button), because it's pretty clear there is demand for this.

Playing around some more... I think it would be helpful to know how much you have on the table.

Yeah, agreed. We're working on incorporating this into the "double all my bets" UI that we're working on, so stay tuned!

By the way, what's your username? I'll comp you some BTC to thank you for the helpful feedback.

I'm having a difficult time pulling myself away from roulette to post on here.  But Awesome JOB! I'm so excited to see your craps game now.  It's incredible to see this quality of a service in the bitcoin community.

Thanks! Feedback like this helps keeps us going

My critique.  The bet box gets in the way for people who like to play the inside.  Maybe i'm the only one.  But i have to hit enter on the key board to get the value to take 1... I should be able to set a default price and click my bet on many options.  If the box had to stay make it vanish when clicking it. But that would just add 1 extra click per bet. But it at least needs more than a key board exit.

I hope that the ability we just added to click anywhere on the popup to dismiss it should help here! Let me know if not. We definitely want to accommodate all players, including those that like to bet the inside

I added a quarter BTC to your account for the helpul feedback, Kaji.

Thanks to everyone for the feedback!

[dooglus]

- You can now close the popup box by clicking on any of the empty area inside of it. I hope this is a good solution for people that like to bet the inside.

This seems a little patchy.  For example, click on the top edge of the table, between the 12 and 15.  "10 to 15 sixline" pops up as the title.  Click right in the middle of the 'x' in 'sixline' and the box almost never closes.  But click a pixel or two to the left and it does.  I'm not sure what is determining whether the popup closes or not when I click on its title/description.

[dooglus]

I just spun the roulette wheel for the first time since your recent changes.  And it's still spinning.  My Internet went out for a while, but it's back now.  I was thinking the wheel might stop when the Internet service came back, but no.

Also, while it was spinning I think I may have placed another bet.  And now the 'spinning' button has changed back to 'spin', even though the wheel is still spinning.



Edit: reloading the page shows my balance back to where it started, so in all likelihood the server never saw my bet.  The "repeat last" button was greyed out, too.  Should the web browser re-submit the bet when Internet service returns?  Because it doesn't appear to.

[dooglus]

A suggestion: remember what game I was playing most recently, and take me back to that game when I visit your site.  Currently it always seems to start at blackjack, even though it's able to remember my last roulette bet between sessions.

[libertaad]

We've just pushed a change to add a 4th main button to allow you to double all of your active bets. We also now display the sum of your total much active bets. This should make it easier to quickly see how much you're betting, and also make it easier to vary your bets between spins.

Also, and you may already do this, can you data tag the field so that only the numeric keys show on mobile devices?

This change is now live!

This seems a little patchy.  For example, click on the top edge of the table, between the 12 and 15.  "10 to 15 sixline" pops up as the title.  Click right in the middle of the 'x' in 'sixline' and the box almost never closes.  But click a pixel or two to the left and it does.  I'm not sure what is determining whether the popup closes or not when I click on its title/description.

Ah, good catch! It turns out this was because of the arrow, which is actually just a square div rotated 45 degrees, not having a click handler assigned to it. This resulted in the small triangle at the top of the popup not responding to clicks. This is fixed now.

I just spun the roulette wheel for the first time since your recent changes.  And it's still spinning.  My Internet went out for a while, but it's back now.  I was thinking the wheel might stop when the Internet service came back, but no.

Edit: reloading the page shows my balance back to where it started, so in all likelihood the server never saw my bet.  The "repeat last" button was greyed out, too.  Should the web browser re-submit the bet when Internet service returns?  Because it doesn't appear to.

It does make sense that the wheel would just keep spinning forever, because the response from the server is what triggers the animation to stop.  Also, your bet won't get automatically re-submitted to the server - it just makes a single request.

We can probably handle this situation much more gracefully by adding a timeout to the request, and then alerting you that your internet is likely out. We'll look into doing that.

A suggestion: remember what game I was playing most recently, and take me back to that game when I visit your site.  Currently it always seems to start at blackjack, even though it's able to remember my last roulette bet between sessions.

That's a really good idea! I had thought of doing this when I launched Video Poker a while ago, but never ended up executing it. So, thanks for the reminder!

[ErebusBat]

Playing around some more... I think it would be helpful to know how much you have on the table.

Yeah, agreed. We're working on incorporating this into the "double all my bets" UI that we're working on, so stay tuned!

By the way, what's your username? I'll comp you some BTC to thank you for the helpful feedback.

It is ErebusBat, I just never setup an account before because BJ isn't my game.   Account setup and deposit made... look for 'donations' this weekend

[rjbtc]

Very nice! I was able to get my 0.005 deposit back and then some! Will definitely come back  

Oh, and made 2 withdrawals, one took > 20 mins, the other was within seconds. Thanks!

[KajiMaster]

I hope that the ability we just added to click anywhere on the popup to dismiss it should help here! Let me know if not. We definitely want to accommodate all players, including those that like to bet the inside

I added a quarter BTC to your account for the helpul feedback, Kaji.

Tried it out on my lunch break.  A+! Using mouse to play the inside is easier.  And I like the double all wagers option.  Amazing quick response time!

You never committed on my android app comment.  Doesn't HTML5 have features that make that transference easier?

-kaji

[KajiMaster]

Also you need a 'half bets' with that double bet buttons

-kaji