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January 29, 2015, 12:30:38 PM |
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If you can't bag hold $20 of VTR, then you're not really a player. This is a new category that has global demand with hundreds of millions of potential users from the word go. Door 1: Bag hold at least $20 of any of these new projects and one of them will pay off, big time. Door 2: Waste your time trolling on the internet.
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January 29, 2015, 01:50:50 PM |
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If you can't bag hold $20 of VTR, then you're not really a player. This is a new category that has global demand with hundreds of millions of potential users from the word go. Door 1: Bag hold at least $20 of any of these new projects and one of them will pay off, big time. Door 2: Waste your time trolling on the internet. This ^ I have a couple of hundred k of these, will be happy with 1 mil Willing to take the risk of a few hundred $ with the potential here to make a few thousand $
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January 29, 2015, 05:11:59 PM |
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If you can't bag hold $20 of VTR, then you're not really a player. This is a new category that has global demand with hundreds of millions of potential users from the word go. Door 1: Bag hold at least $20 of any of these new projects and one of them will pay off, big time. Door 2: Waste your time trolling on the internet. What else do you hve aside from vtr
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January 29, 2015, 11:14:15 PM |
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rakesh1_90
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January 30, 2015, 12:09:09 AM |
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Even there is no proof of developer submitted. How lame!
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coins101
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January 30, 2015, 09:05:20 AM |
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Thanks. Hadn't been exposed to that before. Looks very interesting. Todd and Taaki should mean the code is pretty good. I'll be opening up the code at the weekend.
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Frazazel
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January 30, 2015, 10:13:57 AM |
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Everything gonna be alright now ,everything gone be ok ,no woman no cry ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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January 30, 2015, 05:25:48 PM |
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the way to make the idea a oney spinner lies in getting global torrent and FREE file sharing sites to advertise or maybe approve it. They know that they get a small % in royalties for providing links and/or magnets.
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vtorrent (OP)
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January 31, 2015, 04:04:49 AM |
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Some updates on vTorrent development progress, I have been working on vTorrent almost full time recently, adding many new unique features to the client, I just need to work on a few things more and new beta should be ready for public. Here are some current screenshot, ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F2X4UXJ2.png&t=665&c=Best3FLUAiZifg) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKSfHQC2.png&t=665&c=YVKG2560SZUtmg) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FFWYuKzs.png&t=665&c=G8stzLZiK7PkHQ) To all community members, please do not hesitate to throw out some great idea for our upcoming betas. Sorry for the delays and thank you for your support as always.
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Frigga77
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January 31, 2015, 07:34:45 AM |
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Some updates on vTorrent development progress,
I have been working on vTorrent almost full time recently, adding many new unique features to the client, I just need to work on a few things more and new beta should be ready for public.
Here are some current screenshot,
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To all community members, please do not hesitate to throw out some great idea for our upcoming betas. Sorry for the delays and thank you for your support as always.
A good idea would be if you could provide us with some proof of code. I am getting a little bit tired of only seeing screenshots. I am good with GIMP too, does not mean I can code. Not seeing any sign of implementing Torrent stuff either.
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vtorrent (OP)
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January 31, 2015, 08:30:36 AM |
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Some updates on vTorrent development progress,
I have been working on vTorrent almost full time recently, adding many new unique features to the client, I just need to work on a few things more and new beta should be ready for public.
Here are some current screenshot,
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To all community members, please do not hesitate to throw out some great idea for our upcoming betas. Sorry for the delays and thank you for your support as always.
A good idea would be if you could provide us with some proof of code. I am getting a little bit tired of only seeing screenshots. I am good with GIMP too, does not mean I can code. Not seeing any sign of implementing Torrent stuff either. Any community member using any version of Mac OSX and willing to help us test the pre-public beta version of the client, feel free to contact me. @Frigga77 I am sorry to let you down but I am seriously quite bad at GIMP ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Regards
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January 31, 2015, 08:47:38 AM |
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Some updates on vTorrent development progress,
I have been working on vTorrent almost full time recently, adding many new unique features to the client, I just need to work on a few things more and new beta should be ready for public.
Here are some current screenshot,
To all community members, please do not hesitate to throw out some great idea for our upcoming betas. Sorry for the delays and thank you for your support as always.
Hm, by the way, why do you want trading via wallet ? And how it is related with torrents (obviously you have a concept, but i don´t get it, no offense, just curiosity).
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January 31, 2015, 09:07:03 AM |
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Some updates on vTorrent development progress,
I have been working on vTorrent almost full time recently, adding many new unique features to the client, I just need to work on a few things more and new beta should be ready for public.
Here are some current screenshot,
To all community members, please do not hesitate to throw out some great idea for our upcoming betas. Sorry for the delays and thank you for your support as always.
Hm, by the way, why do you want trading via wallet ? And how it is related with torrents (obviously you have a concept, but i don´t get it, no offense, just curiosity). From the start the dev said he was going to be writing in wallet trading, when that was done he'd impliment the torrent stuff. I'm just happy to see some progress ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) This is looking less scamish now.
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vtorrent (OP)
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January 31, 2015, 09:28:40 AM |
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Some updates on vTorrent development progress,
I have been working on vTorrent almost full time recently, adding many new unique features to the client, I just need to work on a few things more and new beta should be ready for public.
Here are some current screenshot,
To all community members, please do not hesitate to throw out some great idea for our upcoming betas. Sorry for the delays and thank you for your support as always.
Hm, by the way, why do you want trading via wallet ? And how it is related with torrents (obviously you have a concept, but i don´t get it, no offense, just curiosity). My main idea is to have a complete solution in one client. I want anybody not just a veteran in the Bitcoin or Altcoin community to be able to use and understand vTorrent ecosystem with ease. Users should not have to go find everything in separate place, such as the need to go look for exchanges to trade VTR for BTC along with ability to deposits and withdrawals and I plan to have all the main exchanges that support VTR build right in the client and not limit to just Bittrex. Improving current in-client Block-Explorer and design a better encryption system such as implementing google authenticator is also needed and is being work on. Details on torrent implementation will be released when it is ready. Thank you for your feedback and support.
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January 31, 2015, 10:37:34 AM |
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This looks good as idea - crypto should be used by everybody with ease.
It is annoying that most of community in crypto thinks that crypto is only for them and if someone doesn't understand where is wallet.dat it should be shot immediately.
Keep up the good work dev. ....crypto and torrents must be accessible for everybody.
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January 31, 2015, 11:07:04 AM |
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tbh i hope you succeed, but i just want to caution you. Being a dev means you have to sometimes anticipate what doofus is gonna do
If you implement in wallet trading that involves the use of keys doofus doesn't just use your coin he has at least ten wallets and adds a new one every week. one of these may be illegitimate and by creating a situation that stores sensitive data like exchange keys you may be opening access to users accounts.
just a thought.
Also why only Mac Os users? some people prefer to build their own clients after reading the code. Make the source code available to prove you actually have something.
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January 31, 2015, 12:59:29 PM |
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So far, this sounds more like what I had in mind for a crypto <> torrent than just the existing torrent model merged into crypto. However, I think the answer probably sits somewhere else, but takes into account these two concepts. e.g: > A third party making the payment to the seeder on behalf of the person downloading or streaming a file. That third person would be an advertiser paying the seeder directly or the rights owner sharing ad revenue. The advertiser would need to buy crypto / BTC and payments would could be in VTR through the in-wallet exchanges (taking into account the VTR model in this case) would be automatically sent to the seeder as their bandwidth or per file is being accessed. This option being used by VTR is also great for selling files. If you own a file or media, you can get paid in crypto directly, and / or a seeder can share the revenue if they promote the file on your behalf. These projects are shaping up nicely ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) * Distribute an encrypted file to the world. * Reveal some (provably fair) random section of the contents to prove the legitimacy of its contents. * People bid on the remaining parts. * Leaker redeeming funds automatically releases the decryption key allowing people to unlock the remaining parts of the file.
* NO CENTRAL OPERATOR. * NO IDENTITY NEEDED. * NO INTERACTION WITH LEAKER REQUIRED.
See EXPLANATION. Imagine once this is a simple piece of software for anyone to use (leaker: import file, add info, prove possession, bidder: verify, bid on chunk, unlock) of course running all over Tor with a nice user interface.
Decentralised way to leak and get paid for any FILE or information: proprietary software, opensource software, corporate documents, firmware drivers, movies .etc
I want to put out information and get $$$
$ pp_start TESTFILE 100 58 chunks created. Choose a future block height and a number of chunks to release. Announce them to the world.
Announce the HEIGHT to the world. Make the _public_chunks/ directory publically available for download.
"At block HEIGHT 341000 (Expected Nov 11 2014), I will prove possession of the files encrypted at this location: <torrent:...> by releasing 18 of the 58 chunks." -Leaker
Once block hash becomes known:
$ pp_prove TESTFILE 100 0000000000000000251ed5ba6bc475c13e15550475e4049e153a06b78b5a8a50 10 > proof_file $ cat proof_file 20 03e9fc6592798125ede112430e0b8beb30dacd9787f061883bf0bfa43e2ca8d378 34 036675c1d13a0112f28956e61475551c4bc53b8b5f6a8c0799fd9bb9f968cfc8ce 26 02267eeac444549d63836ff1d098de2b045d0f897849c50120645d6982463d0aa4 26 02267eeac444549d63836ff1d098de2b045d0f897849c50120645d6982463d0aa4 4 02096ec2b83982ddef77ce2e1628e90ff51ac04eaa9870326a38b3f15112577843 26 02267eeac444549d63836ff1d098de2b045d0f897849c50120645d6982463d0aa4 5 034633adfee376bed397acaa576196fff39fa8257080be0914e22cb92c2c90fe26 19 030c6624306007688c3f27e86b6add811c4a83f1bde2e728e62458c631f76359e5 21 028e3f035d4ec79e6afa3a8a90a95dda4f2ced04d1e5bb77321254bea3e5545ec5 33 03dd42d8d4134491aee30de991350547e87f100ac9d4e0a1ac6b94150cd2e2d2b8 39 023a9a24584ddd2788136128d2c9d84bf4fae9d8063fb691b16eaf62d55193d6b7 14 02c920dbd95487749ea8cd602ffe00c6f54f396e4e2a3c2cb0ee8507a761f7505f 5 034633adfee376bed397acaa576196fff39fa8257080be0914e22cb92c2c90fe26
Reveal these to your audience by distributing proof_file. They can use this file to unlock chunks and verify their authenticity.
$ pp_unlock_all proof_file TESTFILE_public_chunks/ 0000000000000000251ed5ba6bc475c13e15550475e4049e153a06b78b5a8a50
Which is just a bash script that repeatedly calls for each line in the proof_file:
$ pp_unlock TESTFILE_public_chunks/CHUNK.20 0000000000000000251ed5ba6bc475c13e15550475e4049e153a06b78b5a8a50 03e9fc6592798125ede112430e0b8beb30dacd9787f061883bf0bfa43e2ca8d378 // Creates CHUNK.20.decrypted
The leaker can choose to reveal subsequent blocks by spending money send to the addresses in _public_chunks/ADDRS file. Spending money from those addresses, reveals the public key which is used to decrypt other chunks.
To do that, the leaker simply needs to import these keys into his wallet and spend any funds at those addresses:
$ pp_secrets TESTFILE 100 L265LXaXqh5TX97voQjz4Wo7Qpyoj8aCxotZYoYsG1vA72oiRTRN L4qJhBVQhHVWQDznzaUoiBkBBpZubJAoLuwhNGW1AdgUoLmXpZSC L37xPybVaSmBKdL6s3SgKUzsmAuBDRsws6oUjXKzz8TgNiypcsvi L2ob4c74UB6rbH7YPA1s6ATDLgrDHNtRB8rUhjL2xzqrXNztQzH6 KywiFkzENUKvuMrFGnbSN3PemGHM555QtXhRXAk3D8b1VJwRrc4X ...
To find the pubkeys for an ADDRESS, use the tool pp_check_addr:
$ ./pp_check_addr 1Ksv3HoCAn75uMfXtyWLgauUQv3gEa389A Fetching transaction... 02e1746dc1da27a5d4be9be4855016fc6fdd6f29b5a198239978dafdf7dd647656
Merge the decrypted files back together again using:
$ ./pp_merge TESTFILE_public_chunks/ 58
(where 58 is the number of chunks... it's a simple bash script.)
https://github.com/unsystem/paypub/blob/master/README
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January 31, 2015, 01:16:25 PM |
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} std::ifstream infile(doc_path.native(), std::ifstream::binary); infile.seekg(0, std::ifstream::end); size_t file_size = infile.tellg(); infile.seekg(0, std::ifstream::beg); size_t chunk_size = file_size / chunks; // AES works on blocks of 16 bytes. Round up to nearest multiple. chunk_size += 16 - (chunk_size % 16); BITCOIN_ASSERT(chunk_size % 16 == 0); //std::cout << "Creating chunks of " // << chunk_size << " bytes each." << std::endl; ec_point_list all_pubkeys; while (infile) { Needs a bit of work, but a good starting point ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I think that open bazaar has taken focus on the development work, but there are plenty of additional reference points to make a start on crypto torrents. https://github.com/OpenBazaar/OpenBazaar
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January 31, 2015, 01:27:04 PM |
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tbh i hope you succeed, but i just want to caution you. Being a dev means you have to sometimes anticipate what doofus is gonna do
If you implement in wallet trading that involves the use of keys doofus doesn't just use your coin he has at least ten wallets and adds a new one every week. one of these may be illegitimate and by creating a situation that stores sensitive data like exchange keys you may be opening access to users accounts.
just a thought.
Also why only Mac Os users? some people prefer to build their own clients after reading the code. Make the source code available to prove you actually have something.
Good points. Even if the user does not have other wallets installed in his PC, there will be always a possibility of malware on his PC... The developer has to make sure the API key is both stored securely in encrypted form, and is sent securely over the network! I hope this trading is done at least using HTTPS..? There is no source yet to check that. I hope the Dev will provide it soon. I think he is most probably coming from commercial environment where giving the source codes is considered to be foolish. But crypto is all about openness, and we are living now in open-source age, so at least some part of the wallet should be made open, for this project to be considered as legitimate! I have one more separate question to the @vtorrent - what happened with the wallet encryption bug, which you were working on? Is it resolved, or it could still happen to new users, so they could lose coins? Do you still work on finding that? Maybe also @Pnoch has more info on that , as he was affected by the bug, and also was helping to debug the code?
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January 31, 2015, 02:14:45 PM |
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OK chaps, just had a thought about why this will take off. GCHQ, NSA etc., capture data that flows through international routing hubs. Transatlantic data that goes through sea cables goes through just a few hubs before it distributes around a country or continent. That's how these organisations can capture most of the data that travels around the internet. Through the routing hubs. It makes their job so much easier. The same happens with ISPs. They track data traffic and profit from that information. If local seeders obtain files and then seed to their immediate local area, say within a 5-10 mile radius, then ISPs and anyone else looking to profit off data traffic analysis, well they are out of luck. Internet traffic tracking for media files now needs to include crypto <> torrent seeders. Also, the load on the internet gets removed because traffic is more local, thus allowing the internet to continue growing without major infrastructure changes or extra charges based on bandwidth use by users. ISPs would pay seeders for this help. There are so many ways for seeders to get paid. Who will give away files, when someone else is distributing it free, but making a profit from doing so. We just killed torrents. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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