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[dickwhite]

To add to the theories...

I believe the tech is ready but there are legal hurdles to this project that are being confronted. And this could take months or years, or may prove insurmountable. Shadowcash, which this wallet's code is based on, rebranded and refocused their target market for this reason.

Bittorrent = legal
Bitcoin = legal
ZCash = legal

I'm struggling with the legal hurdles you are trying to say need to be confronted.

There is even some VHS case in America that makes Bittorrent legal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Corp._of_America_v._Universal_City_Studios,_Inc.

IF the devs wish to monetise this project, ala Particl, they'll need to thoroughly investigate and prepare for the legal consequences of users sharing copyright material. The entertainment industrial complex has way more money and lawyers.

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[berron]

To add to the theories...

I believe the tech is ready but there are legal hurdles to this project that are being confronted. And this could take months or years, or may prove insurmountable. Shadowcash, which this wallet's code is based on, rebranded and refocused their target market for this reason.

Bittorrent = legal
Bitcoin = legal
ZCash = legal

I'm struggling with the legal hurdles you are trying to say need to be confronted.

There is even some VHS case in America that makes Bittorrent legal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Corp._of_America_v._Universal_City_Studios,_Inc.

IF the devs wish to monetise this project, ala Particl, they'll need to thoroughly investigate and prepare for the legal consequences of users sharing copyright material. The entertainment industrial complex has way more money and lawyers.

Not totally sure, but taking into account that this is only an open code app, what are going to be the charges? Programming?? As with emule link pages and users could be prosecuted, but I see very difficult in the case of the programmers. It's only code with legit uses.

[ik_do]

To add to the theories...

I believe the tech is ready but there are legal hurdles to this project that are being confronted. And this could take months or years, or may prove insurmountable. Shadowcash, which this wallet's code is based on, rebranded and refocused their target market for this reason.

Bittorrent = legal
Bitcoin = legal
ZCash = legal

I'm struggling with the legal hurdles you are trying to say need to be confronted.

There is even some VHS case in America that makes Bittorrent legal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Corp._of_America_v._Universal_City_Studios,_Inc.

IF the devs wish to monetise this project, ala Particl, they'll need to thoroughly investigate and prepare for the legal consequences of users sharing copyright material. The entertainment industrial complex has way more money and lawyers.

Wrong.
Otherwise Bittorrent itself would've been legally challenged.

[DogTheHunter]

To add to the theories...

I believe the tech is ready but there are legal hurdles to this project that are being confronted. And this could take months or years, or may prove insurmountable. Shadowcash, which this wallet's code is based on, rebranded and refocused their target market for this reason.

Bittorrent = legal
Bitcoin = legal
ZCash = legal

I'm struggling with the legal hurdles you are trying to say need to be confronted.

There is even some VHS case in America that makes Bittorrent legal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Corp._of_America_v._Universal_City_Studios,_Inc.

IF the devs wish to monetise this project, ala Particl, they'll need to thoroughly investigate and prepare for the legal consequences of users sharing copyright material. The entertainment industrial complex has way more money and lawyers.

Wrong.
Otherwise Bittorrent itself would've been legally challenged.

Bittorrent Inc has been a company for years, never been shutdown or had any legal problems. It's based just a few miles from Hollywood. 

[gjhiggins]

FYI:

https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtnetwork-torrent-example.html

'snot obviously monetized, so no-one's interested, apparently.

Cheers

Graham

[dickwhite]

Wrong.
Otherwise Bittorrent itself would've been legally challenged.

Bittorrent Inc has been a company for years, never been shutdown or had any legal problems. It's based just a few miles from Hollywood. 

Sourced from Wikipedia:
In 2004, Bram Cohen, with his brother Ross Cohen and business partner Ashwin Navin, formed BitTorrent Inc. By mid-2005, BitTorrent, Inc. was funded by venture capitalist David Chao from Doll Capital Management. In late 2005 Cohen and Navin made a deal with the MPAA and seven large studios in America to remove links to illegal content on the official BitTorrent website. The agreement means the site complies with procedures outlined in the Digital Millennium Copyright Act.

Should vtorrent wish to monetize/legitimise their work and business model, a similar legal agreement with the industry will have to be made. 

[AweJohn]

Wrong.
Otherwise Bittorrent itself would've been legally challenged.

Bittorrent Inc has been a company for years, never been shutdown or had any legal problems. It's based just a few miles from Hollywood. 

Sourced from Wikipedia:
In 2004, Bram Cohen, with his brother Ross Cohen and business partner Ashwin Navin, formed BitTorrent Inc. By mid-2005, BitTorrent, Inc. was funded by venture capitalist David Chao from Doll Capital Management. In late 2005 Cohen and Navin made a deal with the MPAA and seven large studios in America to remove links to illegal content on the official BitTorrent website. The agreement means the site complies with procedures outlined in the Digital Millennium Copyright Act.

Should vtorrent wish to monetize/legitimise their work and business model, a similar legal agreement with the industry will have to be made. 

It's a must do, a legal agreement will boost the value of vTorrent, and who doesn't want that ?!
I hope the team makes a priority out of this.

[digitalgrow]

Update would be nice dev, you are logging in and reading the thread but ignoring us which is fine if you are working, but we have no update on progress since earlier this year and no releases according to your schedule

[dickwhite]

Should vtorrent wish to monetize/legitimise their work and business model, a similar legal agreement with the industry will have to be made. 

It's a must do, a legal agreement will boost the value of vTorrent, and who doesn't want that ?!
I hope the team makes a priority out of this.

Yes. The .8x "classic" client will become community-supported and carry the pirate stuff, while .9x will be the DMCA-approved content sharing client.

[DogTheHunter]

Should vtorrent wish to monetize/legitimise their work and business model, a similar legal agreement with the industry will have to be made. 

It's a must do, a legal agreement will boost the value of vTorrent, and who doesn't want that ?!
I hope the team makes a priority out of this.

Yes. The .8x "classic" client will become community-supported and carry the pirate stuff, while .9x will be the DMCA-approved content sharing client.

if people decide to upload pirate content, that's down to them - they carry the risk.

As long as people are able to upload legal content they own and control, the network is just that - a legal network.

[Walker0118]

Can anyone tell me or the Dev is still Alive ? Im warried
Becouse i dont see them answer the questions of the communitie ?
I hold my coins A long time but If the dev is dead...

[ALCTEC]

Can anyone tell me or the Dev is still Alive ? Im warried
Becouse i dont see them answer the questions of the communitie ?
I hold my coins A long time but If the dev is dead...

Dev is alive, but gives zero fucks about your investment. But I would hold onto your coins, because

a.) It's a legit project and it's going to pump like crazy
b.) It's a scam and it's going to pump like crazy

[leigh2k14]

Hey dev, if you are still doing zero coin intergration, and you DO have working torrents on the chain, I put it to you as long as you produce working code, why not do a swap 1/1 and add 10% to the supply for yourself, I don't think anybody would mind if you were to take the extra coins, but you must produce the code.

This silence has gone on too much now.

We all see the potential marketcap of this, given the way crypto is now this would be a top ten coin.

Do you like money? Do you want to be rich?

@everybody else, please discuss if you are willing for the dev to accept an extra 10%.

[badinvesterguy]

Hey dev, if you are still doing zero coin intergration, and you DO have working torrents on the chain, I put it to you as long as you produce working code, why not do a swap 1/1 and add 10% to the supply for your self, I don't think anybody would mind if you were to take the extra coins, but you must produce the code.

This silence has gone on too much now.

We all see the potential marketcap of this, given the way crypto is now this would be a top ten coin.

Do you like money? Do you want to be rich?

@everybody else, please discuss if you are willing for the dev to eccept an extra 10%.

Heck, make it 100%. If it goes x100 we still profit x50, if you say top10, well still profit x250

[leigh2k14]

Hey dev, if you are still doing zero coin intergration, and you DO have working torrents on the chain, I put it to you as long as you produce working code, why not do a swap 1/1 and add 10% to the supply for your self, I don't think anybody would mind if you were to take the extra coins, but you must produce the code.

This silence has gone on too much now.

We all see the potential marketcap of this, given the way crypto is now this would be a top ten coin.

Do you like money? Do you want to be rich?

@everybody else, please discuss if you are willing for the dev to eccept an extra 10%.

Heck, make it 100%. If it goes x100 we still profit x50, if you say top10, well still profit x250

I thought 10% was fair, 100% is way too much, but I suppose there is some wiggle room.

[hughbt]

Time is money and in crypto it's passing even faster. If you are delaying the release because you want to make more money then just increase the premine and let's do this shit.

[DogTheHunter]

Hey dev, if you are still doing zero coin intergration, and you DO have working torrents on the chain, I put it to you as long as you produce working code, why not do a swap 1/1 and add 10% to the supply for your self, I don't think anybody would mind if you were to take the extra coins, but you must produce the code.

This silence has gone on too much now.

We all see the potential marketcap of this, given the way crypto is now this would be a top ten coin.

Do you like money? Do you want to be rich?

@everybody else, please discuss if you are willing for the dev to eccept an extra 10%.

Heck, make it 100%. If it goes x100 we still profit x50, if you say top10, well still profit x250

I thought 10% was fair, 100% is way too much, but I suppose there is some wiggle room.

Yeah, lets do it.

It can ride up to $500m off the back of k.im launching his ICO giving extra exposure. You'll have over $50m to share among the devs - an no ICO risks or needing to go public.

Do it before JoyStream figure out they can do an ICO too.

[Delita Heiral]

Stage 3:  Bargaining

[DogTheHunter]

Stage 3:  Bargaining

For fucks sake, what's stage 4? And all the other stages until at least the video is released?

[badinvesterguy]

Stage 3:  Bargaining

For fucks sake, what's stage 4? And all the other stages until at least the video is released?

Stage 4 (same as stage 2) : rage