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[leigh2k14]

So the general consensus among those on this forum at least is a wait and see approach.  I get that, our Dev is pretty lackluster in the info department, but that doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing as long as there is progress being made.

I'm more than willing to just sit back and 'see what happens', but first, just a thing to consider.  Most successful projects at some point get some holders together to try and spread the word about the project, what's happening with DASH right now is the perfect case in point.  They have been hitting marketing real hard for a real long time.  So, if someone in the future wants to try and organize some kind of communal fund in VTR to fund the different things we all know this project needs, I'll be there to pitch in my staking reward at minimum to help out.

Good idea, can you imagine if we used to the staking reward to buy targeted ads on the major torrent sites. BOOM! Potentially, we could get millions checking VTR out very quickly.

I'd be willing to put forth my staking reward... though i doubt they'll amount to what others are staking.

I'll put forward mine too.

It should be done within the next 10 days in order to provide liquidity on the run up to the fork.

Suggestion - create a decent sized banner and advertise on a talk show like The Crypto Show; Mad Bitcoins; or sponsor an episode of letstalkbitcoin; or something around torrentfreak.

Interested to hear any other ideas.

I think the majority of the target market should be torrent based sites, crypto sites too, but after all VTR will be a torrent network.

Obviously Torrent freak would be our main target

I'm up for spit balling some ideas, anyone else have some suggestions?

Edit: i'm thinking when/if we go live, to market this.

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[Delita Heiral]

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/world/325699/court-allows-extradition-of-torrenting-site-owner-to-us

[leigh2k14]

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/world/325699/court-allows-extradition-of-torrenting-site-owner-to-us

Shits getting real.

Looks like kim.dom might be getting extradited: http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/324933/court-rules-dotcom-eligible-for-extradition

[ALCTEC]

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/world/325699/court-allows-extradition-of-torrenting-site-owner-to-us

Shits getting real.

Looks like kim.dom might be getting extradited: http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/324933/court-rules-dotcom-eligible-for-extradition

Yep my country sold out to hollywood, shame on us

[coins101]

I think the majority of the target market should be torrent based sites, crypto sites too, but after all VTR will be a torrent network.

Obviously Torrent freak would be our main target

I'm up for spit balling some ideas, anyone else have some suggestions?

Edit: i'm thinking when/if we go live, to market this.

I think the marketing awareness process should not start with typical torrent sites. Here is my view on that.

If you pay to advertise or sponsor a torrent news site of some sorts, you will get the attention of those users. Their first reaction will be, great another BitTorrent client. Then they'll try to download the client and then you've lost them. You don't usually get a second chance at making a first impression.

If you target crypto users, quite a fair number of them are BitTorrent users. They'll get it straightaway. Oh, it's not ready yet? No problem, looks like the coins are still cheap too: FOMO.

Spending the marketing money on crypto sites should mean that the number of people interested in vTorrent goes up and so will the price. You can then use the increased value of the stake rewards to build up a war chest and when the time is right, you'll have the financial ammunition to go and sponsor torrent news sites.

That's when the project starts cooking on gas. You'll find it will be much easier to convert BitTorrent users to being crypto users once they see something they are familiar with and can use to do what they already do from the minute they download the vTorrent client.

Just my view.

[coins101]

For those who may have noticed I've taken out my vTorrent sig.

That's not to suggest in any way I've lost interest in vTorrent. I think this project has got the potential to be one of the best top 10 coins in crypto and the vTorrent devs are pretty epic for taking on this challenge, they are just not very communicative.

As I proposed with forking vTorrent if necessary, I'm forking another project that was not looking like it was heading in the direction I thought it should go. I'm taking stewardship of the fork and pushing it forward along with many others in the direction we think it should go.

So my offer to fork vTorrent as a plan B if it looked like the end of the world was upon us - that was not a hollow promise.

[ALCTEC]

For those who may have noticed I've taken out my vTorrent sig.

That's not to suggest in any way I've lost interest in vTorrent. I think this project has got the potential to be one of the best top 10 coins in crypto and the vTorrent devs are pretty epic for taking on this challenge, they are just not very communicative.

As I proposed with forking vTorrent if necessary, I'm forking another project that was not looking like it was heading in the direction I thought it should go. I'm taking stewardship of the fork and pushing it forward along with many others in the direction we think it should go.

So my offer to fork vTorrent as a plan B if it looked like the end of the world was upon us - that was not a hollow promise.

Fair enough, but still you didn't really explain why you took it off your sig - will you be putting one up for the other forked project?

**Urging shilling and shameless promotion up to hard fork date**

[Testudoguy]

For those who may have noticed I've taken out my vTorrent sig.

That's not to suggest in any way I've lost interest in vTorrent. I think this project has got the potential to be one of the best top 10 coins in crypto and the vTorrent devs are pretty epic for taking on this challenge, they are just not very communicative.

As I proposed with forking vTorrent if necessary, I'm forking another project that was not looking like it was heading in the direction I thought it should go. I'm taking stewardship of the fork and pushing it forward along with many others in the direction we think it should go.

So my offer to fork vTorrent as a plan B if it looked like the end of the world was upon us - that was not a hollow promise.

So u want to fork vtorrent? What the point? Are u saying
that u can finish torrent implementation on blockchain?
that missing link we are waiting from current
Dev? Or did i get this wrong? Or will u have
Another solution? What good will fork do for
Current vtorrent holder? Coins will
Be distributed as per current holdings or?

[coins101]

For those who may have noticed I've taken out my vTorrent sig.

That's not to suggest in any way I've lost interest in vTorrent. I think this project has got the potential to be one of the best top 10 coins in crypto and the vTorrent devs are pretty epic for taking on this challenge, they are just not very communicative.

As I proposed with forking vTorrent if necessary, I'm forking another project that was not looking like it was heading in the direction I thought it should go. I'm taking stewardship of the fork and pushing it forward along with many others in the direction we think it should go.

So my offer to fork vTorrent as a plan B if it looked like the end of the world was upon us - that was not a hollow promise.

So u want to fork vtorrent? What the point? Are u saying
that u can finish torrent implementation on blockchain?
that missing link we are waiting from current
Dev? Or did i get this wrong? Or will u have
Another solution? What good will fork do for
Current vtorrent holder? Coins will
Be distributed as per current holdings or?

Look. I've been following this project for years now. I'm not going to do anything to disrupt it. Not one single thing.

What I hear all the time is people saying they are not investing in vTorrent because it doesn't have BitTorrent yet, as promised. And they also say, what if it never gets delivered?

This really pisses me off. I wouldn't be here nearly every day for years now if I didn't think the vTorrent devs could deliver.

I have bought all my coins. I was soaking up a lot of the dumps people were making when they called vTorrent a scam. Some still do. Why would I risk my Bitcoins when people were dumping and calling it a scam if I didn't believe in this project?

Look at all the extra features added during the last fork....we now have more and much better features than projects valued at $10m or more. We have better features than Litecoin and Dash, combined.

The reason we have such a low market value despite being better than coins in the top 10, is because of one single issue.

WHERE IS BITTORRENT FEATURE? I'M NOT INVESTING UNLESS I SEE BITTORRENT.

That's it. Despite being the only coin with 2FA protection which alone should give us $2m marketcap - WHERE IS THIS F****** BITTORRENT.

I'm pissed of with it.

So I made a promise to those who say, it's never going to happen; or it's a scam project.

My promise is to fork vTorrent if BitTorrent doesn't happen or it's a very long con scam.  That is your insurance policy to everyone.

JoyStream has no option but to go open source. If it doesn't, people won't use it.

When it goes open source and IF vTorrent doesn't deliver or is a scam, I will fork JoyStream and merge it into vTorrent.

But, I don't want to do this.

IT'S AN INSURANCE POLICY.

You only claim on an insurance policy if bad things happen.

[Pickleninja]

For those who may have noticed I've taken out my vTorrent sig.

That's not to suggest in any way I've lost interest in vTorrent. I think this project has got the potential to be one of the best top 10 coins in crypto and the vTorrent devs are pretty epic for taking on this challenge, they are just not very communicative.

As I proposed with forking vTorrent if necessary, I'm forking another project that was not looking like it was heading in the direction I thought it should go. I'm taking stewardship of the fork and pushing it forward along with many others in the direction we think it should go.

So my offer to fork vTorrent as a plan B if it looked like the end of the world was upon us - that was not a hollow promise.

So u want to fork vtorrent? What the point? Are u saying
that u can finish torrent implementation on blockchain?
that missing link we are waiting from current
Dev? Or did i get this wrong? Or will u have
Another solution? What good will fork do for
Current vtorrent holder? Coins will
Be distributed as per current holdings or?

Look. I've been following this project for years now. I'm not going to do anything to disrupt it. Not one single thing.

What I hear all the time is people saying they are not investing in vTorrent because it doesn't have BitTorrent yet, as promised. And they also say, what if it never gets delivered?

This really pisses me off. I wouldn't be here nearly every day for years now if I didn't think the vTorrent devs could deliver.

I have bought all my coins. I was soaking up a lot of the dumps people were making when they called vTorrent a scam. Some still do. Why would I risk my Bitcoins when people were dumping and calling it a scam if I didn't believe in this project?

Look at all the extra features added during the last fork....we now have more and much better features than projects valued at $10m or more. We have better features than Litecoin and Dash, combined.

The reason we have such a low market value despite being better than coins in the top 10, is because of one single issue.

WHERE IS BITTORRENT FEATURE? I'M NOT INVESTING UNLESS I SEE BITTORRENT.

That's it. Despite being the only coin with 2FA protection which alone should give us $2m marketcap - WHERE IS THIS F****** BITTORRENT.

I'm pissed of with it.

So I made a promise to those who say, it's never going to happen; or it's a scam project.

My promise is to fork vTorrent if BitTorrent doesn't happen or it's a very long con scam.  That is your insurance policy to everyone.

JoyStream has no option but to go open source. If it doesn't, people won't use it.

When it goes open source and IF vTorrent doesn't deliver or is a scam, I will fork JoyStream and merge it into vTorrent.

But, I don't want to do this.

IT'S AN INSURANCE POLICY.

You only claim on an insurance policy if bad things happen.

You're a good hodler coins... i'mma buy you a drink when we reach moon.

-pickle

[Testudoguy]

For those who may have noticed I've taken out my vTorrent sig.

That's not to suggest in any way I've lost interest in vTorrent. I think this project has got the potential to be one of the best top 10 coins in crypto and the vTorrent devs are pretty epic for taking on this challenge, they are just not very communicative.

As I proposed with forking vTorrent if necessary, I'm forking another project that was not looking like it was heading in the direction I thought it should go. I'm taking stewardship of the fork and pushing it forward along with many others in the direction we think it should go.

So my offer to fork vTorrent as a plan B if it looked like the end of the world was upon us - that was not a hollow promise.

So u want to fork vtorrent? What the point? Are u saying
that u can finish torrent implementation on blockchain?
that missing link we are waiting from current
Dev? Or did i get this wrong? Or will u have
Another solution? What good will fork do for
Current vtorrent holder? Coins will
Be distributed as per current holdings or?

Look. I've been following this project for years now. I'm not going to do anything to disrupt it. Not one single thing.

What I hear all the time is people saying they are not investing in vTorrent because it doesn't have BitTorrent yet, as promised. And they also say, what if it never gets delivered?

This really pisses me off. I wouldn't be here nearly every day for years now if I didn't think the vTorrent devs could deliver.

I have bought all my coins. I was soaking up a lot of the dumps people were making when they called vTorrent a scam. Some still do. Why would I risk my Bitcoins when people were dumping and calling it a scam if I didn't believe in this project?

Look at all the extra features added during the last fork....we now have more and much better features than projects valued at $10m or more. We have better features than Litecoin and Dash, combined.

The reason we have such a low market value despite being better than coins in the top 10, is because of one single issue.

WHERE IS BITTORRENT FEATURE? I'M NOT INVESTING UNLESS I SEE BITTORRENT.

That's it. Despite being the only coin with 2FA protection which alone should give us $2m marketcap - WHERE IS THIS F****** BITTORRENT.

I'm pissed of with it.

So I made a promise to those who say, it's never going to happen; or it's a scam project.

My promise is to fork vTorrent if BitTorrent doesn't happen or it's a very long con scam.  That is your insurance policy to everyone.

JoyStream has no option but to go open source. If it doesn't, people won't use it.

When it goes open source and IF vTorrent doesn't deliver or is a scam, I will fork JoyStream and merge it into vTorrent.

But, I don't want to do this.

IT'S AN INSURANCE POLICY.

You only claim on an insurance policy if bad things happen.

Frankly i support yout idea. I am following vtr project also
For 2 years now and more and more it look that will
Delay for another long time. Dev has a serious
Social problems. When u planning a fork. I am supportive
Of you.

[digitalgrow]

Day 2 miner here so been holding over 3 years now

Dev you have very little good vibes around this project right now which is a shame as alt coins have a feel good factor right now and you are not capitalising on the this by providing any updates on the torrent feature, most ppl will just abandon your project and all your hard work will be for nothing

[ALCTEC]

A big thanks to all weak hands for the cheap VTR

[Pickleninja]

I want you all to know that: 

1. I'm drunk.
2. I didn't base 100% of my savings on vtr.
3. I've developed software before.

Satoshi didn't have any expectations when developing bitcoin. He was free to develop what he wanted to, when he wanted to.

We all know this tech is coming. Theres no immediate competition. And every fork has brought something new. 

Back off vtorrent. He'll deliver when its ready!

And unless you want to roll up your sleeves and jump into c++, sit back, grab a beer, and enjoy the ride!

-pickle

[Big Naturals]

Day 2 miner here so been holding over 3 years now

Dev you have very little good vibes around this project right now which is a shame as alt coins have a feel good factor right now and you are not capitalising on the this by providing any updates on the torrent feature, most ppl will just abandon your project and all your harrd work will be for nothing

With no ICO the vtr dev must be planning to make a return on his time from buying a stash on the open market, that's probably why he doesn't communicate news that might raise the price before he's done buying. This is a fair and honorable course to take, dev has not dribbled out 'news' to profit from temporary trading volatility,  he's consistently said nothing. All things considered the dev will only profit from the post torrent release price correction.

[ALCTEC]

Day 2 miner here so been holding over 3 years now

Dev you have very little good vibes around this project right now which is a shame as alt coins have a feel good factor right now and you are not capitalising on the this by providing any updates on the torrent feature, most ppl will just abandon your project and all your harrd work will be for nothing

With no ICO the vtr dev must be planning to make a return on his time from buying a stash on the open market, that's probably why he doesn't communicate news that might raise the price before he's done buying. This is a fair and honorable course to take, dev has not dribbled out 'news' to profit from temporary trading volatility,  he's consistently said nothing. All things considered the dev will only profit from the post torrent release price correction.

Dev has a small premine, incentive enough to make this big

[tuvok007]

I want you all to know that:  

1. I'm drunk.
2. I didn't base 100% of my savings on vtr.
3. I've developed software before.

Satoshi didn't have any expectations when developing bitcoin. He was free to develop what he wanted to, when he wanted to.

We all know this tech is coming. Theres no immediate competition. And every fork has brought something new.  

Back off vtorrent. He'll deliver when its ready!

And unless you want to roll up your sleeves and jump into c++, sit back, grab a beer, and enjoy the ride!

-pickle

Deserves a bump   I like this sentence the most, its so real: "...We all know this tech is coming."                

[AnotherNode]

Not sure who ^^he  is, but what ^^ he said.

In other news, is there a prize for guessing the next hard fork date?

3-18-17 1:59 PM

[Pumpkinetic]

Are people still investing here, vtr is dead, vidz proved that and now novus will hammer the final nail in the coffin. Sell all your vtr before its too late! 

[ALCTEC]

Are people still investing here, vtr is dead, vidz proved that and now novus will hammer the final nail in the coffin. Sell all your vtr before its too late! 

err Vidz was a PND scam and now the same guy is going to rinse and repeat under his alter ego. In saying that there are plenty of lemmings, so guess you can make a quick buck or two.