ANTMINER S5: 1155GH(+OverClock Potential), In Stock $0.319/GH & 0.51W/GH

[jackbox]

For what it's worth, ZoomHash is still at $325 + shipping. They accept PayPal and Credit Cards. They claim 5 days shipping in the USA.

Alas this is not be. I got an E-mail from Zoom Hash less than 48 hours later saying that they had to cancel the order. So my "S5 for $348 shipped to Minnesota, paid with Discover" turned into a flop. They are crediting the money back. Bummer....... 

My shipment was canceled too. Even with a simple excel sheet I would be faster than 3 days to know what I have in Stock or not... Speechless... 

This is from 2 pages back, but another thing to keep in mind about Zoomhash, (and others? How many or which I am not sure but I know Zoomhash) is they are supposed to handle the warranty claims according to Yoshi.I do not know the qualifying factors but I am sure if they are supposed to handle warranty they get a better discount.
Yoshi said Bitmain would handle my case but that is a whole different story which I will update in a bit.

Just keep in mind where your warranty is being handled, the people you will be dealing with, where they are, and (if you will have failures) where is the most likely point of failure. Of course how long is the warranty and what is the warranty reputation from existing users who your use will emulate. There is nothing wrong with learning by copying the best and back on topic sincerely research the service experience of others.

Does that mean that that Bitmain could not cover warranty issues if i bought them from DHGATE which is linked from Bitmain site?

Bitmain is the seller on DHGATE. It is just a site where Chinese sellers can sell and all payments are escrowed. You should have no issue with warranty.

[bond007taz]

Gotcha. Strange thing to have it at once on the both sides

I agree .... which makes me think PSU.

ya, fan turns on - I am using a Thermaltake 850W 80 PLUS Bronze

http://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Bronze-ATX12V-EPS12V-SP-850M/dp/B007BDJ58C

Is it single rail or multi rail ?

The multi rail can supply 850 watts to all connectors just not all at the same time! this is what companies do not tell you. Single rail is way better because it does supply it all at the same time I think its your PSU use single rail instead like I do with all the latest protections much better and much safer to!


I am a disabled engineer make sure if its multi-rail if you insist on using it that it can provide 25 amps on each connecter. just look at the PSU it should say it.


just looked at the PSU Specs that PSU should not have a problem unless you overclocked it. If you did what was the frequency ?


  

negative, it was not overclocked - it was stock - i dont have any modified or overclocked miners -  I was just curious why the 80 C safeguard didnt kick in or if this is what happens when it reaches 80 C

[MrTeal]

The caps might have blown up, but it's unlikely they were the cause of the fault. Unless they're cheap knock-offs, those SP-Caps are all rated to a working voltage of at least 105C (some are 125C) and they'll survive higher than that. What they don't like is an overvoltage situation. Those specific ones are rated to 6.3V, but if something happened where the full 12V (or most if it) was across that chip and cap, it would look very similar to that.

[Syke]

Yesterday i tested and at clock 375, one S5 is drawing about 565w of the wall.
So my question is, would it be okay to connect 2 S5's to the one Corsair 1200w Platinum PSU ?

565w at the wall is about 510w output. 510 x 2 = 1020w. 1020w is less than 1200w, so it should be fine at 375. Good chance you can even take them up to 400. Be sure to check the wattage after a day or so when everything has stabilized.

[dogie]

To add to this... Bitmain will NOT warranty a device that was not purchased directly from Bitmain or an authorized reseller (but they won't provide a list of authorized resellers, as far as I can see). This policy is not made clear anywhere that I have seen, but Bitmain expects retail vendors (re-sellers) to take returns and then pursue warranty service with the re-seller rather than individual buyers. Also, Bitmain will tell you to do a credit card chargeback if the vendor will not handle an RMA for you, regardless of whether or not they ever claimed they would.

They won't necessarily accept returns directly from someone who isn't their customer, as its possible for people to cause problems. For example if a user sends an S5 to Bitmain, but they purchased from a reseller. Bitmain says they will refund the item, the reseller says "nope" and ignores everyone.

Tldr if you're purchasing from a regional reseller, contact them if someone goes wrong with that sale. It becomes far too complicated when trying to make it a 3 way transaction.

[dogie]

The caps might have blown up, but it's unlikely they were the cause of the fault. Unless they're cheap knock-offs, those SP-Caps are all rated to a working voltage of at least 105C (some are 125C) and they'll survive higher than that. What they don't like is an overvoltage situation. Those specific ones are rated to 6.3V, but if something happened where the full 12V (or most if it) was across that chip and cap, it would look very similar to that.

Assuming it was not done on purpose and it was done on a standard freq of 350  this could mean the s-5 has the same problems Asic Miner prismas had.  Runaway thermals. Time will tell if it is the case or if this is a rare case.  So far 1 person has had the problem.  Thousands have been sold. So 1/2000 popped a pair of caps. Pretty safe we have seen  more then 1 burned sp20.

To me it seems strange, that a board failure is SO rare on the 10,000s of units out there, yet TWO happen on the same unit simultaneously. Statistically that just isn't possible, there must be something environmental influencing the situation - whether its the fan was changed out, someone tried pushing an overclock too far etc etc. The warped plastic panels also don't appear to make sense, there is no reason why the air on those panels would get anywhere near the 105C or so to melt them.

My personal opinion is we're not getting the full story, but its not up to me to decide. PM BitmainWarranty to arrange an RMA. Be sure to link to your post describing the issues, what type and how many miners you wish to have repaired/replaced and your bitmaintech.com order number.

[Phosphorous]

They won't necessarily accept returns directly from someone who isn't their customer, as its possible for people to cause problems. For example if a user sends an S5 to Bitmain, but they purchased from a reseller. Bitmain says they will refund the item, the reseller says "nope" and ignores everyone.

Tldr if you're purchasing from a regional reseller, contact them if someone goes wrong with that sale. It becomes far too complicated when trying to make it a 3 way transaction.

No one is trying to buy from a re-seller and return to Bitmain for a refund!
The discussion is about warranty service, for which Bitmain can and would always repair or replace defective merchandise. I can't imagine a scenario where the issue a refund in lieu of repair or replacement during the 3 month warranty period.

The only remaining variable is when was the item purchased to determine warranty period, but that concern should be irrelevant during the first 3 months after the release of a new product since ALL items are under warranty at that point.

[dogie]

They won't necessarily accept returns directly from someone who isn't their customer, as its possible for people to cause problems. For example if a user sends an S5 to Bitmain, but they purchased from a reseller. Bitmain says they will refund the item, the reseller says "nope" and ignores everyone.

Tldr if you're purchasing from a regional reseller, contact them if someone goes wrong with that sale. It becomes far too complicated when trying to make it a 3 way transaction.

No one is trying to buy from a re-seller and return to Bitmain for a refund!

I didn't say they were, but look at the problems some of these resellers put up as soon as you try and return anything. Bitmain can't force external companies to do anything, so can't get involved with what is essentially a 3rd party dispute. If you purchase from a reseller, your contract and sale is with the reseller.

[Phosphorous]

I didn't say they were, but look at the problems some of these resellers put up as soon as you try and return anything. Bitmain can't force external companies to do anything, so can't get involved with what is essentially a 3rd party dispute. If you purchase from a reseller, your contract and sale is with the reseller.

Yes, but we're not talking about the contract for sale, we're talking about the manufacturer's warranty.

If you buy an appliance at Walmart or Target or other retailer you usually can return a defective item to them for a cash refund but the manufacturer will often still provide a method to get a repair or replacement directly or through a service center. Appliance makers don't usually tell end-users to take a hike if it wasn't purchased directly from them.

[bond007taz]

The caps might have blown up, but it's unlikely they were the cause of the fault. Unless they're cheap knock-offs, those SP-Caps are all rated to a working voltage of at least 105C (some are 125C) and they'll survive higher than that. What they don't like is an overvoltage situation. Those specific ones are rated to 6.3V, but if something happened where the full 12V (or most if it) was across that chip and cap, it would look very similar to that.

Assuming it was not done on purpose and it was done on a standard freq of 350  this could mean the s-5 has the same problems Asic Miner prismas had.  Runaway thermals. Time will tell if it is the case or if this is a rare case.  So far 1 person has had the problem.  Thousands have been sold. So 1/2000 popped a pair of caps. Pretty safe we have seen  more then 1 burned sp20.

To me it seems strange, that a board failure is SO rare on the 10,000s of units out there, yet TWO happen on the same unit simultaneously. Statistically that just isn't possible, there must be something environmental influencing the situation - whether its the fan was changed out, someone tried pushing an overclock too far etc etc. The warped plastic panels also don't appear to make sense, there is no reason why the air on those panels would get anywhere near the 105C or so to melt them.

My personal opinion is we're not getting the full story, but its not up to me to decide. PM BitmainWarranty to arrange an RMA. Be sure to link to your post describing the issues, what type and how many miners you wish to have repaired/replaced and your bitmaintech.com order number.

will do - wasn't trying to start something, was just curious about the 80C safeguard

[dogie]

The caps might have blown up, but it's unlikely they were the cause of the fault. Unless they're cheap knock-offs, those SP-Caps are all rated to a working voltage of at least 105C (some are 125C) and they'll survive higher than that. What they don't like is an overvoltage situation. Those specific ones are rated to 6.3V, but if something happened where the full 12V (or most if it) was across that chip and cap, it would look very similar to that.

Assuming it was not done on purpose and it was done on a standard freq of 350  this could mean the s-5 has the same problems Asic Miner prismas had.  Runaway thermals. Time will tell if it is the case or if this is a rare case.  So far 1 person has had the problem.  Thousands have been sold. So 1/2000 popped a pair of caps. Pretty safe we have seen  more then 1 burned sp20.

To me it seems strange, that a board failure is SO rare on the 10,000s of units out there, yet TWO happen on the same unit simultaneously. Statistically that just isn't possible, there must be something environmental influencing the situation - whether its the fan was changed out, someone tried pushing an overclock too far etc etc. The warped plastic panels also don't appear to make sense, there is no reason why the air on those panels would get anywhere near the 105C or so to melt them.

My personal opinion is we're not getting the full story, but its not up to me to decide. PM BitmainWarranty to arrange an RMA. Be sure to link to your post describing the issues, what type and how many miners you wish to have repaired/replaced and your bitmaintech.com order number.

will do - wasn't trying to start something, was just curious about the 80C safeguard

Yeah that's okay. If the chips [sensor] were at 80C I'd still be surprised if there was enough radiating heat to warp the [assumed] PP/PC sheets so its a weird one. The 80C safeguard does work though, its been tested.

[Phosphorous]

I have to give props to the Bitmain service center in CO. I sent my S5 to them (from Phoenix) for service on Monday and had it back by Friday. No report on what was fixed or repaired, and it doesn't really matter. The unit now works great.

[pekatete]

S5 firmware fan speed mods .....

I stumbled accross this topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=940250 where they had a mod for the S4, and thought about making a firmware mod for the S5, in the process, the person who made the original mod to the module controlling the S4 fan has come up with a mod for the S5. Here's the link to the message: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=940250.msg10327889#msg10327889

I have not tested the firmware as I received my S5 with the stock fan DOA (got in touch with bitmain and they want me to take videos of it and / or buy something from them before  ... blah blah ... for another day that one!). If anyone is willing to give the modded firmware, please give it a go and provide feedback. there are links on the messaage, but I'll reproduce them below too:

1. fan_6 - slower than stock - https://mega.co.nz/#!MVtHXBKC!VEymK0FxLpuXTl5ZpxnNxlQNKOsp15V0vRy18Vb7dPI
2. fan_3 - slower than fan_6 - https://mega.co.nz/#!JFNnQALR!3x501jLm1GyzUlDMZ4USWGmDHYCyZKSSiNp4UWRWUnM
3. stock firmware (also on bitmain site) - https://mega.co.nz/#!1ENCRYIb!pbSf4wXt4nwX_0IYTH1LRh0mZ9_Gw3KgbCel8zyhOjo

If you try the firmware, please provide feedback either here or on the thread linked above to lanfeusst. This mod can also be the pilot for a permanent mod for updating cgminer et al!

[Rabinovitch]

Now is too late. I'm going to sleep. Maybe tomorrow...

p.s. can it brick my S5?

[lanfeusst]

Now is too late. I'm going to sleep. Maybe tomorrow...

p.s. can it brick my S5?

No, it can't brick it but you have to watch the temps (must be < 70C).
When you reboot, the modification will be gone, it is not persistent as it is not in the firmware.

[ryanjf]

S5 firmware fan speed mods .....

I stumbled accross this topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=940250 where they had a mod for the S4, and thought about making a firmware mod for the S5, in the process, the person who made the original mod to the module controlling the S4 fan has come up with a mod for the S5. Here's the link to the message: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=940250.msg10327889#msg10327889

I have not tested the firmware as I received my S5 with the stock fan DOA (got in touch with bitmain and they want me to take videos of it and / or buy something from them before  ... blah blah ... for another day that one!). If anyone is willing to give the modded firmware, please give it a go and provide feedback. there are links on the messaage, but I'll reproduce them below too:

1. fan_6 - slower than stock - https://mega.co.nz/#!MVtHXBKC!VEymK0FxLpuXTl5ZpxnNxlQNKOsp15V0vRy18Vb7dPI
2. fan_3 - slower than fan_6 - https://mega.co.nz/#!JFNnQALR!3x501jLm1GyzUlDMZ4USWGmDHYCyZKSSiNp4UWRWUnM
3. stock firmware (also on bitmain site) - https://mega.co.nz/#!1ENCRYIb!pbSf4wXt4nwX_0IYTH1LRh0mZ9_Gw3KgbCel8zyhOjo

If you try the firmware, please provide feedback either here or on the thread linked above to lanfeusst. This mod can also be the pilot for a permanent mod for updating cgminer et al!

Since nothing survives a reboot on a S5, you'll have to do this a little different than the S4 to test without repacking the firmware.

To use it :
Change 192.168.0.16 with the Ip address of your miner

scp bitmain_spi_fan_6.ko root@192.168.0.16:/lib/modules/3.8.13/kernel/drivers/bitmain/           #Copy the file to the miner

then ssh to the miner :
ssh root@192.168.0.16
then :
cp /lib/modules/3.8.13/kernel/drivers/bitmain/bitmain_spi.ko /config/bitmain_spi_original.ko        #Makes a backup
cp /lib/modules/3.8.13/kernel/drivers/bitmain/bitmain_spi_fan_6.ko /lib/modules/3.8.13/kernel/drivers/bitmain/bitmain_spi.ko         # Copy the new file to the good place
cd /etc/init.d/ #Change directories
./cgminer.sh restart         # Restart cgminer


I've tested both files:

Ambient temps here today are -5 C & I'm running 9 miners in this rack.
bitmain_spi_s5_fan_6.ko runs the fans at 3240 RPM and temps are averaging 56 C
bitmain_spi_s5_fan_3.ko runs the fans at 2760 RPM and temps are averaging 66 C

[lanfeusst]

Hi guys,
After the software mod done for the fan speed of the s4 (see here and here) , here is the s5 fan mod able to change the S5 fan speed by changing software.   This allows to effectively  decrease the noise from the s5 AND to decrease the power consumption by a maximum of 10 watts.
It should not be used if the temperature is > 70°C. Check that the stop miner when temp is over 80°C box is checked in the configuration page.

If this helps you, consider my bitcoin address :
1NfUptoShEtSD2SQV2f45Xr1bTysFnsHiU

I have modified the bitmain_spi.ko file into two others binaries which gives differents fan speed.

First version with lower fan speed:

Download here :  
https://mega.co.nz/#!MVtHXBKC!VEymK0FxLpuXTl5ZpxnNxlQNKOsp15V0vRy18Vb7dPI

Second version with much lower fan speed: it should not be used if the temperature is > 70°C. Check that the stop miner when temp is over 80°C box is checked in the configuration page.

Download here :
https://mega.co.nz/#!JFNnQALR!3x501jLm1GyzUlDMZ4USWGmDHYCyZKSSiNp4UWRWUnM
The original is here if you need it :
https://mega.co.nz/#!1ENCRYIb!pbSf4wXt4nwX_0IYTH1LRh0mZ9_Gw3KgbCel8zyhOjo

To use it :
Change 192.168.0.16 with the Ip address of your miner


scp bitmain_spi_s5_fan_6.ko root@192.168.0.16:/config/           #Copy the file to the miner

then ssh to the miner :
ssh root@192.168.0.16
then :
cp /lib/modules/3.8.13/kernel/drivers/bitmain/bitmain_spi.ko /config/bitmain_spi_original.ko        #Makes a backup
cp /config/bitmain_spi_s5_fan_6.ko /lib/modules/3.8.13/kernel/drivers/bitmain/bitmain_spi.ko         # Copy the new file to the good place
cd /etc/init.d/ #Change directories
./cgminer.sh stop         # Stop cgminer
sleep 1
./cgminer.sh start         # Stop cgminer

#Wait 30 secondes

Check the web page at 192.168.0.16, you should be able to see the new lower fan speeds

If my new binaries help you and you are satisfied, help me by sending some bitcoins to my address:
1NfUptoShEtSD2SQV2f45Xr1bTysFnsHiU

Warning: Do nothing you don't understand ; No warranties whatsoever are given by me ; this could not work or be useless ; this could burn your S5 or make it useless ; this could void your warranty with bitmain.

[dogie]

I have to give props to the Bitmain service center in CO. I sent my S5 to them (from Phoenix) for service on Monday and had it back by Friday. No report on what was fixed or repaired, and it doesn't really matter. The unit now works great.

Glad to hear it. That's exactly the point of the US centre, so Bitmain can provided fast moving RMAs for US customers.

[dogie]

Now is too late. I'm going to sleep. Maybe tomorrow...

p.s. can it brick my S5?

No, it can't brick it but you have to watch the temps (must be < 70C).
When you reboot, the modification will be gone, it is not persistent as it is not in the firmware.

As its a custom firmware, there is always a chance it can brick and then you'll have to send your controller in to be reflashed. You should also be vigilent and check nothing has been mixed in or changed by going through the source yourself.

And as a reminder, modifying the designed cooling system (by replacing fans or custom firmware) WILL invalidate your warranty. You should consider this a mod that you undertake at entirely your own risk.

[pekatete]

Now is too late. I'm going to sleep. Maybe tomorrow...

p.s. can it brick my S5?

No, it can't brick it but you have to watch the temps (must be < 70C).
When you reboot, the modification will be gone, it is not persistent as it is not in the firmware.

As its a custom firmware, there is always a chance it can brick and then you'll have to send your controller in to be reflashed. You should also be vigilent and check nothing has been mixed in or changed by going through the source yourself.

And as a reminder, modifying the designed cooling system (by replacing fans or custom firmware) WILL invalidate your warranty. You should consider this a mod that you undertake at entirely your own risk.

As far as I am aware, bitmain's own firmware is the ONLY one documented (in these very threads!) as having bricked their own hardware. More to the point though, there are adequate warnings with the mods (hardware & software) to not warrant sensationalizing by dogie.

And NO, that mod can NOT brick your S5 as it will not even survive a reboot (I am working on a firmware mod that will persist on reboot though).