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Author Topic: ANTMINER S5: 1155GH(+OverClock Potential), In Stock $0.319/GH & 0.51W/GH  (Read 450562 times)
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December 24, 2014, 04:06:02 PM
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My hope is that because first impressions are critical, Bitmain will test the first batch for a few days (more than 24 hr), then select ONLY those machines that are flawless or close to it and send them out. If people will find trouble with the first batch, the whole program would be affected.
Hope in one hand, crap in the other, see what fills up first.
The reality is Bitmain released the U3 without any miner software (CGMiner) support. It was at least 2 weeks before initial buyers were able to use their U3s in any meaningful way. And that was ONLY because they were smart enough to give CK a unit and because he was kind enough to write drivers and update CGMiner.
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December 24, 2014, 04:13:30 PM
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So I'm reaching out to others for their take on the S5 vs SP20.  I calculate that it would take 125 days to recoup the additional electricity that you are saving with the S5 vs. it's premium over the SP20 when comparing equal hash rates and not taking into account the lower power draws of the SP20 when down clocked.

                                                                                     S-5                                    SP20
Cost (including shipping)                                                      414.00 $                              500.00 $ 
Hash Rate                                                                            1155                                   1700
Cost per Hash                                                                        0.36 $                                 0.29 $       
Power (watts)                                                                         590                                   1200
Watts per Hash                                                                0.510823                             0.705882

Comparable Costs @ 1155gh/s
Costs                                                                                     414                             339.7059
24hr power cost $.11/kwh                                                        1.56 $                                2.15 $       
Power Savings per 24hrs                                                          0.59 $       

Cost Difference                                                                     74.29 $     
# of Days to recoup Savings                                                124.911      

So unless I plan on keeping the S-5 longer than 125 days, it wouldn't make sense to get it vs the SP20.  Am I missing something?  Also this is using the 52 unit price for the S-5 vs. the single unit price of an SP20.
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December 24, 2014, 04:43:29 PM
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So I'm reaching out to others for their take on the S5 vs SP20.  I calculate that it would take 125 days to recoup the additional electricity that you are saving with the S5 vs. it's premium over the SP20 when comparing equal hash rates and not taking into account the lower power draws of the SP20 when down clocked.

                                                                                     S-5                                    SP20
Cost (including shipping)                                                      414.00 $                              500.00 $ 
Hash Rate                                                                            1155                                   1700
Cost per Hash                                                                        0.36 $                                 0.29 $       
Power (watts)                                                                         590                                   1200
Watts per Hash                                                                0.510823                             0.705882

Comparable Costs @ 1155gh/s
Costs                                                                                     414                             339.7059
24hr power cost $.11/kwh                                                        1.56 $                                2.15 $       
Power Savings per 24hrs                                                          0.59 $       

Cost Difference                                                                     74.29 $     
# of Days to recoup Savings                                                124.911      

So unless I plan on keeping the S-5 longer than 125 days, it wouldn't make sense to get it vs the SP20.  Am I missing something?  Also this is using the 52 unit price for the S-5 vs. the single unit price of an SP20.

How are you getting the S5 for $414 including shipping?
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December 24, 2014, 04:46:54 PM
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Where are you getting the pricing for the SP20?  Cheapest I can find is $633 each and that's if I buy their nano farm promotion.

Edit: And my S5 shipping to the states was $455.
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December 24, 2014, 04:48:03 PM
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That's just based on the the following:

S5 (From Bulk Batch2): $384 +$30 (averge shipping from China to USA)=$414 per 1155G, 590W.

It's what I was told shipping would be on Batch 2.
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December 24, 2014, 04:49:20 PM
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Where are you getting the pricing for the SP20?  Cheapest I can find is $633 each and that's if I buy their nano farm promotion.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=903286.0

I confirmed this with SP and they are going to ship direct.
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December 24, 2014, 04:50:54 PM
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That's just based on the the following:

S5 (From Bulk Batch2): $384 +$30 (averge shipping from China to USA)=$414 per 1155G, 590W.

It's what I was told shipping would be on Batch 2.

bulk batch has no shipping charges, so you cannot really combine these two parameters, hence it is $413+ $27-40/unit (if you order 3-6 units)=$440-453
EDIT: apparently the bulk shipping is NOT free  Huh for S5, so 384+25-30 appears to be right
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December 24, 2014, 04:52:44 PM
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That's just based on the the following:

S5 (From Bulk Batch2): $384 +$30 (averge shipping from China to USA)=$414 per 1155G, 590W.

It's what I was told shipping would be on Batch 2.

bulk batch has no shipping charges, so you cannot really combine these two parameters, so it is $413+ $27-40/unit (if you order 2-6 units)=$440-453

I would have thought that too, but that's not what I'm being told. And if you go to the checkout part, you will see it adds over $1300 for shipping Sad
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December 24, 2014, 04:54:25 PM
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That's just based on the the following:

S5 (From Bulk Batch2): $384 +$30 (averge shipping from China to USA)=$414 per 1155G, 590W.

It's what I was told shipping would be on Batch 2.

bulk batch has no shipping charges, so you cannot really combine these two parameters, so it is $413+ $27-40/unit (if you order 2-6 units)=$440-453

I would have thought that too, but that's not what I'm being told. And if you go to the checkout part, you will see it adds over $1300 for shipping Sad

if it is so, then it is unfortunate.
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December 24, 2014, 05:04:37 PM
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Where are you getting the pricing for the SP20?  Cheapest I can find is $633 each and that's if I buy their nano farm promotion.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=903286.0

I confirmed this with SP and they are going to ship direct.

Sounds like the deal is over.  Was only for the first 200.  So back to what average noob home miner (like me) can expect, here's what I come up with.

                     S5     SP20
Cost (inc shp)     455       633
Hash Rate           1155     1700
Cost/Hash            0.39      0.37
Power                 590     1200
      
@1155 gh/s        455       430
24hr Pwr Cst       1.56   2.15
Pwr Savings        0.59   
      
Cost Difference      $25.00   
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December 24, 2014, 05:11:46 PM
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Where are you getting the pricing for the SP20?  Cheapest I can find is $633 each and that's if I buy their nano farm promotion.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=903286.0

I confirmed this with SP and they are going to ship direct.

Sounds like the deal is over.  Was only for the first 200.  So back to what average noob home miner (like me) can expect, here's what I come up with.

                     S5     SP20
Cost (inc shp)     455       633
Hash Rate           1155     1700
Cost/Hash            0.39      0.37
Power                 590     1200
      
@1155 gh/s        455       430
24hr Pwr Cst       1.56   2.15
Pwr Savings        0.59   
      
Cost Difference      $25.00   


Not trying to promote one over the other, but I think SP is still letting him collect more than 200 units.  So even at your numbers it's 42 days before it is a better deal.

Truthfully, I'm hoping the S5 knocks it out of the park.  If it can be a quiet little miner that the wife won't notice, then it's worth the premium to me.
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December 24, 2014, 05:15:27 PM
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Not trying to promote one over the other, but I think SP is still letting him collect more than 200 units.  So even at your numbers it's 42 days before it is a better deal.

Completely agree!  For me the S5 worked because I already had the power supply for it (and enough power in the location I need to put it).  Plus I'm planning to use the excess heat and I'm hoping it'll be much quieter than the SP20.

Happy holidays everyone!   Smiley
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Where are you getting the pricing for the SP20?  Cheapest I can find is $633 each and that's if I buy their nano farm promotion.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=903286.0

I confirmed this with SP and they are going to ship direct.

Sounds like the deal is over.  Was only for the first 200.  So back to what average noob home miner (like me) can expect, here's what I come up with.

                     S5   SP20
Cost (inc shp)     455       633
Hash Rate           1155     1700
Cost/Hash            0.39      0.37
Power                 590     1200
      
@1155 gh/s        455       430
24hr Pwr Cst       1.56   2.15
Pwr Savings        0.59   
      
Cost Difference      $25.00   

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S5 SP20
Cost (inc shp) 455 500
Hash Rate 1155 1600
Cost/Hash 0.39 0.37
Power 590 1100

@1155 gh/s 455 361
24hr Pwr Cst 1.56 2.10
Pwr Savings 0.54

Cost Difference $94.00
# Days 174
Edited to get some better numbers. Very few people actually hit 1700, but running at a little under max volts and aiming for 1600 improves power consumption as well.
Of course, this is looking at getting two units of each. The numbers will start to favor the S5 more as you increase the number you buy since the per unit shipping cost will go down.
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December 24, 2014, 05:40:36 PM
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Thanks folks.  I just wanted to make sure of what I was seeing.  Now I'll wait for both to arrive and see just how the sounds levels compare.  I was really hoping it would be a clear cut decision to purchase the S5 units, but it's not.
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December 24, 2014, 10:15:28 PM
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How do the S5 customers feel regarding the fact that BITMAIN is testing tons of miners on the live network right before shipping? I see a sharp rise in the difficulty right after the S5 announcement.

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December 24, 2014, 10:25:21 PM
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How do the S5 customers feel regarding the fact that BITMAIN is testing tons of miners on the live network right before shipping? I see a sharp rise in the difficulty right after the S5 announcement.
And what are we going to do about it?
And who here wouldn't if they owned a mining equipment manufacturing company?
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December 24, 2014, 10:38:50 PM
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How do the S5 customers feel regarding the fact that BITMAIN is testing tons of miners on the live network right before shipping? I see a sharp rise in the difficulty right after the S5 announcement.
And what are we going to do about it?

Well it is kinda true that you can't really do much about it, but it hurts my mining bits.

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And who here wouldn't if they owned a mining equipment manufacturing company?

Well I don't want to start with the names because I know where will the discussion go and I don't want that.

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December 24, 2014, 10:40:36 PM
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How do the S5 customers feel regarding the fact that BITMAIN is testing tons of miners on the live network right before shipping? I see a sharp rise in the difficulty right after the S5 announcement.
whats the problem here? or do you prefer to receive DOA miner? i'm not
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December 24, 2014, 10:47:01 PM
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How do the S5 customers feel regarding the fact that BITMAIN is testing tons of miners on the live network right before shipping? I see a sharp rise in the difficulty right after the S5 announcement.
whats the problem here? or do you prefer to receive DOA miner? i'm not

For me it's an obvious test that is longer than 24h. That's the problem. We all know that there were customers in the past that received units full of dust.

Also the fact that they are testing them on the live network is making your earnings go down. They could test them on test network so you wouldn't lose mining earning, but they aren't doing that.

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December 24, 2014, 10:57:16 PM
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How do the S5 customers feel regarding the fact that BITMAIN is testing tons of miners on the live network right before shipping? I see a sharp rise in the difficulty right after the S5 announcement.

Where is that sharp rise? We are still in the middle of a cycle. If you're referring to 504 or 1008 block average, it's more likely that it's starting to reflect XPY miners coming back to BTC. Certainly not a FACT that Bitmain is testing, so I feel it's a dumb question.

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