ANTMINER S5: 1155GH(+OverClock Potential), In Stock $0.319/GH & 0.51W/GH

[Fatman3001]

Thank you for your reconsideration of the matter.

Unfortunately you seem to have overlooked the three (3) blades that were also part of the same issue. Valued by BITMAIN  China at 100USD each.

Also, if we had closed the matter in June as agreed, then the June BTC value would indeed be acceptable.

Instead you opted to cause us all much frustration & financial burden up until now, where the BTC value is less than half of what it was when you could/should have ended the matter.

As such i implore you to re-calculate the full refund value of 260 + 230 + 100 + 100 + 100 = 790 USD in todays BTC price.

This will be acceptable & i will agree that the matter is closed. I will also post my appreciation on each thread to remove the aforementioned tarnish.

I am regretful it has taken so long and so many posts to finally come close to a reconciliation, but i welcome the opportunity.

Sincerely,

Edgar

I hope it works out. Best of luck to you.

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[philipma1957]

this page warms the cockles of my old heart   good to see BMT and SP-T discussing things and acting together.

 Well they should. I would say for more then the last 7 months they have been the best 2 companies out there.
There should be room for the both of them.  And miners can benefit from this.  
They are so far above :

BFL
KNC
AVALON

It really is not fair to put them in the same post with those 3 companies.
They have sold some decent gear to many of us. Far more often then other companies.

@ bitmain   I am looking forward to the s-5

@ edgar  I woke up this morning and see that maybe you will get some resolution with your issues. That would be nice.  

Some advice to both bitmain and edgar   if the numbers are involved are  500 and 1000   just do 750 and then forget it.  

if the numbers are  400 and 800  do 600.

I say this  as a victim of bfl and bips and black arrow and I forgot the other one.  

1)BFL finally refunded all monies 13.5 months later

2)Bips took .4 btc when btc was worth 1100 usd  they never gave me a dime-  it hurts to pay for my spondoolies with bitpay as bips became bitpay

3) black arrow  via DZcoop grabbed 1300 in btc I was refund 600 in btc due to the drop in btc price---------very similar to your case edgar

4) another DZcoop deal went bust I have never got a dime back about 199

I gave up on Bips -Bitpay  
I gave up on That DZcoop deal

The other 2 I call settled.

Although the Bips-Bitpay still angers me as my funds were taken after the 1100 coin hack of BIPS and I have a timeline to prove that.

[Fatman3001]

this page warms the cockles of my old heart   good to see BMT and SP-T discussing things and acting together.

 Well they should. I would say for more then the last 7 months they have been the best 2 companies out there.
There should be room for the both of them.  And miners can benefit from this.  
They are so far above :

BFL
KNC
AVALON

It really is not fair to put them in the same post with those 3 companies.
They have sold some decent gear to many of us. Far more often then other companies.

@ bitmain   I am looking forward to the s-5

@ edgar  I woke up this morning and see that maybe you will get some resolution with your issues. That would be nice.  

Some advice to both bitmain and edgar   if the numbers are involved are  500 and 1000   just do 750 and then forget it.  

if the numbers are  400 and 800  do 600.

I say this  as a victim of bfl and bips and black arrow and I forgot the other one.  

1)BFL finally refunded all monies 13.5 months later

2)Bips took .4 btc when btc was worth 1100 usd  they never gave me a dime-  it hurts to pay for my spondoolies with bitpay as bips became bitpay

3) black arrow  via DZcoop grabbed 1300 in btc I was refund 600 in btc due to the drop in btc price---------very similar to your case edgar

4) another DZcoop deal went bust I have never got a dime back about 199

I gave up on Bips -Bitpay  
I gave up on That DZcoop deal

The other 2 I call settled.

Although the Bips-Bitpay still angers me as my funds were taken after the 1100 coin hack of BIPS and I have a timeline to prove that.

I am still waiting for my KnC Neptune "Bonus" compensatory miner over one year after ordering. I expect the Neptune to arrive in pieces from their Data Center when they get their next gen. I hope I never have to deal with KnC again. I fortunately didn't spend much on BFL, and I was lucky the gear was only 5 months(!!!) late. They gave me a long speech about the risk with pre-order. Only problem was that I didn't pre-order, I had ordered after they started shipping. Too bad they got control of their company again.

[philipma1957]

I got a ups notice the s-5 arrives on monday. I will set up a thread on it in a day or two.

[BITMAIN_Janet]

Thank you for your reconsideration of the matter.

Unfortunately you seem to have overlooked the three (3) blades that were also part of the same issue. Valued by BITMAIN  China at 100USD each.

Also, if we had closed the matter in June as agreed, then the June BTC value would indeed be acceptable.

Instead you opted to cause us all much frustration & financial burden up until now, where the BTC value is less than half of what it was when you could/should have ended the matter.

As such i implore you to re-calculate the full refund value of 260 + 230 + 100 + 100 + 100 = 790 USD in todays BTC price.

This will be acceptable & i will agree that the matter is closed. I will also post my appreciation on each thread to remove the aforementioned tarnish.

I am regretful it has taken so long and so many posts to finally come close to a reconciliation, but i welcome the opportunity.

Sincerely,

Edgar

I hope it works out. Best of luck to you.

Hi Edgar,

PM sent, because the parts you reported have no chance to return to our hand to check....But it is not the key now, we take on all in order to close this case, save time and move forward.

Dear all loyal customers, our truly apologies for the harassment of this case here and there, we are now pushing it to the close, and will return a clear S5 support thread for our loyal customers.

Janet

[OgNasty]

I got a ups notice the s-5 arrives on monday. I will set up a thread on it in a day or two.

Same here.  Although I may not be able to get it until Wednesday because of the holidays.   

[philipma1957]

I got a ups notice the s-5 arrives on monday. I will set up a thread on it in a day or two.

Same here.  Although I may not be able to get it until Wednesday because of the holidays.   

here is hoping it works well.
It would be a good way to end the Year If I get it on monday and it runs nicely.

[klondike_bar]

We see no issues with the post!  We all have to work together to keep the customer happy.  Bitcoin 2.0, keep the business CLEAN and Honest!!  This Forum is a big family in a way

We didn't send as many as you did, but yes, we shipped out some Demo Units to Legendary and Hero Members!  We are learning the tricks fast  

Some may got caught up in the holiday shipping delay/closure but they should be finally arriving on Monday or so  

It's not fair, I shouldn't reply in your thread.
Can't resist it though. All statements are untrue.
I suggest that you'll do legendaries reviews party for the S5 to prove.  

I got a ship notice for 3x SP20 from the GB today, and am anticipating an S5 demo unit delivery around the same time (@BMWarranty - i emailed yoshi today as i havent got any shipment or tracking details for the demo unit yet) hoping to do some nice side-by-side comparisons as both are competitively priced!

[tarmi]

I want a demo unit too.

[aurel57]

I want a demo unit too.

You can have one for $418 and shipping 

[tarmi]

I want a demo unit too.

You can have one for $418 and shipping  

thanks but no thanks. with btc going down better buy btc.

and I never buy the first batch of anything.

[klondike_bar]

I want a demo unit too.

bitmain approached me on the issue, likely due to participation in early batches of many previous units and some of the more useful portions of my posting history in thier threads. (whereas spondoolies effectively asked for legendary-only members to approach them instead). Either way, pretty interested to see what they produce, as I was a little cautious with this product since the fixed chip voltages limit modification without variable PSUs

[jjiimm_64]

since the fixed chip voltages limit modification without variable PSUs

this caught my attention.  'variable PSUs'.   Do they make a psu that you can limit the amount of voltage unit will draw?


I have not been able to change the wattage draw from the S3.  I also purchased an S5 to see if it is any better.... 

[pak13]

since the fixed chip voltages limit modification without variable PSUs

this caught my attention.  'variable PSUs'.   Do they make a psu that you can limit the amount of voltage unit will draw?


I have not been able to change the wattage draw from the S3.  I also purchased an S5 to see if it is any better.... 

Unless you are looking at purchasing a large quantity of psu's that can go down to 9v, it is simply both a waste of money and too expensive to being with. If you intend to throw the power supply away in a few months or think that bitmain will build all their new miners around the variable voltage supply design, then go ahead. However it's not an industry standard so if will be difficult to sell those power supplies in the future and likely won't work with any other manufacturers.

[Xian01]

I want a demo unit too.

bitmain approached me on the issue, likely due to participation in early batches of many previous units and some of the more useful portions of my posting history in thier threads. (whereas spondoolies effectively asked for legendary-only members to approach them instead). Either way, pretty interested to see what they produce, as I was a little cautious with this product since the fixed chip voltages limit modification without variable PSUs

FWIW, I was offered a demo unit as well, but didn't feel right taking them up on the offer after being so critical of them with my S3 B1-B3 experience (responded with "if you'd like to ship me a demo unit anyway, feel free. Here's my account info on your website if you feel like looking it up...") I did end up purchasing two B1 S5's anyway (they are somewhere between Hong Kong and CONUS at the moment) and will be sure to report about them after I get 'em up and running.

[tarmi]

I want a demo unit too.

bitmain approached me on the issue, likely due to participation in early batches of many previous units and some of the more useful portions of my posting history in thier threads. (whereas spondoolies effectively asked for legendary-only members to approach them instead). Either way, pretty interested to see what they produce, as I was a little cautious with this product since the fixed chip voltages limit modification without variable PSUs

no problemo, man. I got a lot of bitmain gear too, but I dont know what to think of chained design. I am curious about s5 as well, but obviously not enough to actually buy them with current prices and the new approach.

[klondike_bar]

since the fixed chip voltages limit modification without variable PSUs

this caught my attention.  'variable PSUs'.   Do they make a psu that you can limit the amount of voltage unit will draw?
I have not been able to change the wattage draw from the S3.  I also purchased an S5 to see if it is any better.... 

Unless you are looking at purchasing a large quantity of psu's that can go down to 9v, it is simply both a waste of money and too expensive to being with. If you intend to throw the power supply away in a few months or think that bitmain will build all their new miners around the variable voltage supply design, then go ahead. However it's not an industry standard so if will be difficult to sell those power supplies in the future and likely won't work with any other manufacturers.

There are two ways to provide <12V to the S5 unit without much difficulty:
1) use a 12V-9V regulator. these are about 90-93% efficient, atop efficiency losses of the 12V PSU powering it. probably $15/S5 to buy
2) buy a mains->9V power supply. most are about 80-85% efficiency and about $30/S5 to buy

IMO neither is a very good solution, but the S5 will be very useful at 0.5W/GH for quite some time anyways. IMO the next revision of the S5 (S5+, S5++) will simply include a few extra chips per chain on the board to reduce voltage and power draw of each individual chip. An interesting alternative is to build a small module of 4-8 chips that can fit inline with a PCIe connector and attach onto the IO chain to provide better efficiencies as time goes on.

[peonminer]

mmm if this were around $325ish i'd be pushing over small children to be the first in line for batch 2

[ZiG]

mmm if this were around $325ish i'd be pushing over small children to be the first in line for batch 2

+1.01 ...me too...

$325 ...shipped...

ZiG

[Syke]

this page warms the cockles of my old heart    good to see BMT and SP-T discussing things and acting together.

Yes, it's good for the community to have at least 2 decent manufacturers.