Tau-Chain and Agoras Official Thread: Generalized P2P Network

[Jinso13]

Hi all,

I have a quick question. I downloaded the OMNICORE wallet to store my AGRS. Now while the syncing at first has worked fine, I've been stuck late 2016 for weeks with almost no movement. Is there any way to speed up/reset the process? e.g. download the blockchain and import it directly to the wallet directory? Or transfer coins to a different wallet that doesnt need to sync the entire blockchain? It was a rookie mistake I made...Any other suggestions would also be appreciated. 

Cheers guys!

[HIIMHOHAHA]

I remember you said the buyers must lock their coins on July tentative sale

on the last 2-3 days of june, only they are the tentative buyers. the larger part of the sale happened during the rest of june.

as for TraderNew, of course i know him personally very well as he's one of the first buyers as he said (all he said is true)

Thank you for your reply!

[ohad]

Hi all,

I have a quick question. I downloaded the OMNICORE wallet to store my AGRS. Now while the syncing at first has worked fine, I've been stuck late 2016 for weeks with almost no movement. Is there any way to speed up/reset the process? e.g. download the blockchain and import it directly to the wallet directory? Or transfer coins to a different wallet that doesnt need to sync the entire blockchain? It was a rookie mistake I made...Any other suggestions would also be appreciated.  

Cheers guys!

there are ways to download the blockchain via bittorrent, i heard
(or ofc using bitcoin core, should be compatible with omnicore)

[Bisha]

So if we get these Agoras tokens, we won't get anything related to the Autonomous Nomic Overlay Network? That's a separate project with no token distribution yet or do Agoras token holders get a "snapshot" and also receive the equivalent tokens on that different network?

[Eventine]

So if we get these Agoras tokens, we won't get anything related to the Autonomous Nomic Overlay Network? That's a separate project with no token distribution yet or do Agoras token holders get a "snapshot" and also receive the equivalent tokens on that different network?

They're separate projects

[LiskEnterprise]

If i understand this project correctly and the split of the old team and the pivot to a strict direction...

Ohad is writing a programming language.

It seems like it is a self judging self altering thus AI type idea.

It will be able to view complicated inputs and state if the criteria about the inputs is true.

It will also have distribution and consensus written directly into the language, so it is based on distribution decentralization.

But to write a new computer programming language takes decades... But short cut if you are basing it on a current language and tweaking idea.

This is Tau, nothing really to do with Agoras.

Agoras will just be another data type, that we will view as money for exchange of use of Tau.

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Can i ask people to take a shot to describe this project. See if we have consensus in basic understanding.

Ohad can then class us after we have a few people attempt a definition for Tau project.

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[Eventine]

Most of the things you said above isn't quite true LiskEnterprise

You may be referring to the Tau Meta Language which is designed to be compatible with all sorts of different programming languages and extract the meaning behind user inputs. These inputs are then put through a reasoner and ordered in a logical and semantically meaningful way within the knowledge base. It is able to provide very deep and meaningful deductions with this information and help scale discussions in ways our species have not yet been able to.

Some practical applications: Imagine if you can find the 10 people in the world who most closely share your philosophical views. Or want to deduce the most effective way of folding proteins for a specific purpose. As Tau's knowledge base grows, this can all be possible.

Agoras is an ambitious project built on the tau platform and will serve as the central economy under this new paradigm. It is composed of 3 key aspects: a knowledge market, a computational resource economy and an advanced derivatives market. It's not just another token. Under the Tau framework, a fully automated economy may come into being.

Tau is about building the foundations to a next generation network where the focus evolves from merely storing data to understanding its meaning. It will pave the road to a world of truly scaling collaborations, smart data, automated economies, to ultimately a decentralized smart internet. The internet of meaning.

[LiskEnterprise]

Ok thanks for the answer.

You are saying it works like an aggregate of confusion and then can uniformly make sense of it all.

Thant is cool...

This is economically sweet, but still based on Tau being correct..

"Agoras is an ambitious project built on the tau platform and will serve as the central economy under this new paradigm. It is composed of 3 key aspects: a knowledge market, a computational resource economy and an advanced derivatives market. It's not just another token. Under the Tau framework, a fully automated economy may come into being."

Also can you define derivatives haha so i can determine if it is a good thing..

Please if you can cover the things you say are not quite true? from above?

[vcvitiko]

I truly hope, team tau chain can pull this off.

[Greg Pentium]

Most of the things you said above isn't quite true LiskEnterprise

You may be referring to the Tau Meta Language which is designed to be compatible with all sorts of different programming languages and extract the meaning behind user inputs. These inputs are then put through a reasoner and ordered in a logical and semantically meaningful way within the knowledge base. It is able to provide very deep and meaningful deductions with this information and help scale discussions in ways our species have not yet been able to.

Some practical applications: Imagine if you can find the 10 people in the world who most closely share your philosophical views. Or want to deduce the most effective way of folding proteins for a specific purpose. As Tau's knowledge base grows, this can all be possible.

Agoras is an ambitious project built on the tau platform and will serve as the central economy under this new paradigm. It is composed of 3 key aspects: a knowledge market, a computational resource economy and an advanced derivatives market. It's not just another token. Under the Tau framework, a fully automated economy may come into being.

Tau is about building the foundations to a next generation network where the focus evolves from merely storing data to understanding its meaning. It will pave the road to a world of truly scaling collaborations, smart data, automated economies, to ultimately a decentralized smart internet. The internet of meaning.

This all sounds phenomenal, and its the reason I have a modest stake in AGRS, but seriously if any of this actually becomes a reality I would eat my hat (I would never eat my own dick).

Mainly because what he's aiming to achieve is so unbelievably revolutionary.

I want Ohad to succeed, but there's a sceptic deep inside me that I find difficult to ignore

[Cibervision]

Ohad , can you tell us a small report 3-6 lines about the work of this month? , videos, whitepaper, core, ... many thanks

[ohad]

Ohad , can you tell us a small report 3-6 lines about the work of this month? , videos, whitepaper, core, ... many thanks

two draft videos, long draft of website content, draft of the tml part of the paper, and most of the time for coding

[walid515]

Awesome
A small positive thought for you ohad and project.
I read the 140 pages of the forum, many repetitive questions and bad comments on misunderstandings. Nothing that looks like a scam. A nice scam is a beautiful website for a big silver survey in no time and without ever showing his face. Ohad puts his image at risk and risks a lot in this project unlike many who scream at the scandal. So a lot of courage for the rest I'm glad to be part of the trip and not just for the money.

[zooitje]

Great to see everything is quiet again around here  

If Tau is ready - someday, when it is ready - I presume the work only begins. As a community. What is a smart roadmap to:
1) Get educated in the right fields to be able to use/program Tau? What should neccesarily be learned already?
2) How to get some experience, before Tau's ready, that is useful? What language? Or knowledge? Or skills?

Basically: What's is relevant to have done to be prepared once this network is up and running and Tau needs some serious usecases and testing?

[klosure]

@Ohad: no comment about HMC's reply?

[ohad]

@Ohad: no comment about HMC's reply?

didn't plan to, but will prepare a comment

[Kartaba]

LiskEnterprise
HMC
Stoopkid

....... go fuck yourselves please. Thank you and fuck you.

[Foerster]

LiskEnterprise
HMC
Stoopkid

....... go fuck yourselves please. Thank you and fuck you.

Not very nice.
It's just bounded rationality in a complex and chaotic world.

[SEOcrypto]

LiskEnterprise
HMC
Stoopkid

....... go fuck yourselves please. Thank you and fuck you.

Yeah, you're dumb.  LiskEnterprise asks great questions, HMC and Stoopkid have amazing knowledge and insight.

Disagreements are not a bad thing.  It's healthy and needed.  I only wish the discourse would be more civil.

[btcdee]

Shalom Ohad, while many of us do our very best to actively follow projects we're invested in, there are times we miss important  announcements. would you consider setting up some kind of notification service for such rare occasions, for example a coin swap or any other event that requires critical action on our behalf. This may be a twitter account or a chat app that enables notifications or pinned messages. Just a thought... thank you