BTCat
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December 19, 2016, 10:55:46 AM
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I've just selected the Do Nothing option but stay with my opinion and options of earlier.
If CBX changes it's course and change into a new coin/chain and with that devalidating the cryptsy coins I will be leaving the CBX team.
I simply do not want to have any responsibility in this action and do not support it.
edit: In fact, I will be leaving. I do not feel any connection with the community as how it is formed lately and also do not feel anything is conciddered to repair the community as I suggested.
So please Elambert, remove my name from the website and change the Twitter pass as well.
Thanks everyone who has been long supporter of CBX. I've done a lot in the first two years but since Cryptsy it's more a passive role and I do not feel the enthousiasm for it any longer.
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CryptoSporidium
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December 19, 2016, 11:10:36 AM |
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I've just selected the Do Nothing option but stay with my opinion and options of earlier.
If CBX changes it's course and change into a new coin/chain and with that devalidating the cryptsy coins I will be leaving the CBX team.
I simply do not want to have any responsibility in this action and do not support it.
That's a shame, but this is a very difficult choice, neither option is ideal. My opinion is the cryptsy coins will kill CBX when they're dumped, there's just not enough community to absorb 124k coins, so it's a choice between (possible) life, and certain death. A new coin gives CBX a chance to reach the level of respect it deserves. |
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cryptobullion.io (OP)
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December 19, 2016, 12:04:03 PM |
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I've just selected the Do Nothing option but stay with my opinion and options of earlier.
If CBX changes it's course and change into a new coin/chain and with that devalidating the cryptsy coins I will be leaving the CBX team.
I simply do not want to have any responsibility in this action and do not support it.
CBX is going to continue, regardless of what option is taken. Almost 1 million CBX exist, PoSP is running, CBX is traded on a couple of exchanges, etc. The Cryptsy coins are a part of this network and will continue to be. No coins in this network will be invalidated. However, as you have voiced, you have the freedom of choice to join or leave this network as do all others. What is being discussed as an option is starting a new coin forked from CBX where all existing address balances are duplicated sans the Cryptsy wallet. This would be a different coin and it would be up to the individual to decide if they support one, the other or both. Personally I will support all that this team works on, CBX, SPK/Quintessence, CBX2, etc. Sad to hear your decision |
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FiniteByDesign
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December 20, 2016, 05:48:19 PM |
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Looks like the block explorer is about to expire. This is a wonderful tool that costs $10 per month, $60 for 6 months. I am willing to contribute $10 so we can keep this service going for the community. If 5 other people do the same (or more) we can keep this service alive. https://chainz.cryptoid.info/cbx/#Expires in 3 days (Christmas Eve) BTC payment address is 1EoyCHdWPYNAJQcN7tNJBohhYGZQfrARy2 |
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FiniteByDesign
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December 21, 2016, 02:34:54 PM |
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Looks like the block explorer is about to expire. This is a wonderful tool that costs $10 per month, $60 for 6 months. I am willing to contribute $10 so we can keep this service going for the community. If 5 other people do the same (or more) we can keep this service alive. https://chainz.cryptoid.info/cbx/#Expires in 3 days (Christmas Eve) BTC payment address is 1EoyCHdWPYNAJQcN7tNJBohhYGZQfrARy2 Bump Anyone? The service is about to expire... |
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avariahb
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December 21, 2016, 04:55:15 PM |
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I paid 1 month
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FiniteByDesign
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December 21, 2016, 05:49:57 PM |
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I paid 1 month
Fantastic, I did as well. |
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malafaya
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December 22, 2016, 03:13:33 PM |
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I'm sorry but I found your proof hard to follow... Firstly I've been dealing with VonSpass for over 8 months and I can say his conduct has been spotless so far. Secondly in what you call "proof", it seems like a chain of "probable causes": A seems to be connected to B which seems to be connected to C which seems to be connected to D... and all quite circumstancial. Regarding VonSpass, you say he posted on a giveway thread claiming his usename was Redwan. I don't find it strange that he may just have copied someone else's post and forgot to change it to his own usename. Yet you call it proof. On the other hand, checking this "chain of proof", it seems one of these links is bitcoinuserz, which at some later point you decided was not related (strikethrough, comment "not connected"), breaking the whole assumption. I'm sorry, but it's very easy to cast suspicions on everyone with such circumstancial claims. Much harder is to restore back the trust the user deserved in the end. |
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Avirunes
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December 22, 2016, 04:21:03 PM |
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I'm sorry but I found your proof hard to follow... Firstly I've been dealing with VonSpass for over 8 months and I can say his conduct has been spotless so far. Secondly in what you call "proof", it seems like a chain of "probable causes": A seems to be connected to B which seems to be connected to C which seems to be connected to D... and all quite circumstancial. Regarding VonSpass, you say he posted on a giveway thread claiming his usename was Redwan. I don't find it strange that he may just have copied someone else's post and forgot to change it to his own usename. Yet you call it proof. On the other hand, checking this "chain of proof", it seems one of these links is bitcoinuserz, which at some later point you decided was not related (strikethrough, comment "not connected"), breaking the whole assumption. I'm sorry, but it's very easy to cast suspicions on everyone with such circumstancial claims. Much harder is to restore back the trust the user deserved in the end. Maybe he is waiting for more people to trust and scam later on. My above post was to alert you guys. You should always take necessary steps to avoid being scammed. What if I connect VonSpass directly to Gildarts but anyway you will not call it as you seem to be more of accepting the fact that he might have copied it. VonSpass is free to counter this in thread where I posted. Also I striked through connection relating bitcoinuserz because his Twitter post linked to different account . Also this is something that I am still looking at. But I am confident on other alts following the proofs. |
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malafaya
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December 22, 2016, 04:26:16 PM
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What if I connect VonSpass directly to Gildarts but anyway you will not call it as you seem to be more of accepting the fact that he might have copied it. VonSpass is free to counter this in thread where I posted.
Actually I'm more of accepting our mutual interaction and experience for the past year: I probably "got more" from him than he got from me. EDIT: Redwan's speech is quite different from VonSpass's. First of all, the number of mistakes in English grammar... |
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December 22, 2016, 05:20:34 PM |
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Hey guys I didn't know we have 2.4.3 now , but I can only get one connection. Is there a conf for this
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December 22, 2016, 05:26:36 PM |
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December 25, 2016, 05:41:25 AM |
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I'm sorry but I found your proof hard to follow... Firstly I've been dealing with VonSpass for over 8 months and I can say his conduct has been spotless so far. It may be that Von Spass has sold his soul to the devil since last we PM-ed -- who knows? but heck, I've known this crypto geek for years, and he enjoys my trust. And: Merry and Happy to all CBX-ers. |
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BTCat
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December 25, 2016, 11:38:07 AM |
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"Destroy the stolen CBX on a new fork/coin"
The 124,000 CBX have never been stolen. They were CLAIMED by the Cryptsy receiver to distribute it's value to victims of other coins theft. Making them worthless is basically robbing the victims of that crime from some kind of repayment, even though it may not be so much.
"and boost the PoSP reward for the next year so that all the lost CBX are regenerated and distributed through staking - after which point reward will be reset to current level"
With this CBX parts from it's fundamentals to have the network increase max 2% per year. First it will decrease by 12% and next it will distribute most of that 12% to the largest current holders, which are the holders of the ICO that was done to collect them. Very smart, but fair it is not. Since only a part of the community is staking you can expect the staking rewards to reach between 30% and 50%, dilluting the CBX of the people that are not staking for whatever reason.
The only way to keep CBX original, solid and more fair is to buyout the CBX that the receiver currently holds. Then nothing needs to be forked, no namechange, no 12% extra staking (which will keep pushing the price down too anyways). Why are people voting for the worst, I don't get it.
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December 25, 2016, 12:23:32 PM |
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"Destroy the stolen CBX on a new fork/coin"
The 124,000 CBX have never been stolen. They were CLAIMED by the Cryptsy receiver to distribute it's value to victims of other coins theft. Making them worthless is basically robbing the victims of that crime from some kind of repayment, even though it may not be so much.
"and boost the PoSP reward for the next year so that all the lost CBX are regenerated and distributed through staking - after which point reward will be reset to current level"
With this CBX parts from it's fundamentals to have the network increase max 2% per year. First it will decrease by 12% and next it will distribute most of that 12% to the largest current holders, which are the holders of the ICO that was done to collect them. Very smart, but fair it is not. Since only a part of the community is staking you can expect the staking rewards to reach between 30% and 50%, dilluting the CBX of the people that are not staking for whatever reason.
The only way to keep CBX original, solid and more fair is to buyout the CBX that the receiver currently holds. Then nothing needs to be forked, no namechange, no 12% extra staking (which will keep pushing the price down too anyways). Why are people voting for the worst, I don't get it.
Agreed. The CBX blockchain has not been compromised, it is working correctly. The receiver has a responsibilty to obtain a value for the CBX it holds, and I am sure it would look at appropriate bids. Those bids would be far below current market trading values of course, bearing in mind the quantity and illiquidity of the market. So, just to get things started, I would be prepared to buy all the 124k at 25% of current market value. At 2.8c current value , 25% comes to around 1 BTC. Any other offers ? |
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CryptoSporidium
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December 26, 2016, 01:31:07 AM |
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"Destroy the stolen CBX on a new fork/coin"
The 124,000 CBX have never been stolen. They were CLAIMED by the Cryptsy receiver to distribute it's value to victims of other coins theft. Making them worthless is basically robbing the victims of that crime from some kind of repayment, even though it may not be so much.
"and boost the PoSP reward for the next year so that all the lost CBX are regenerated and distributed through staking - after which point reward will be reset to current level"
With this CBX parts from it's fundamentals to have the network increase max 2% per year. First it will decrease by 12% and next it will distribute most of that 12% to the largest current holders, which are the holders of the ICO that was done to collect them. Very smart, but fair it is not. Since only a part of the community is staking you can expect the staking rewards to reach between 30% and 50%, dilluting the CBX of the people that are not staking for whatever reason.
The only way to keep CBX original, solid and more fair is to buyout the CBX that the receiver currently holds. Then nothing needs to be forked, no namechange, no 12% extra staking (which will keep pushing the price down too anyways). Why are people voting for the worst, I don't get it.
Agreed. The CBX blockchain has not been compromised, it is working correctly. The receiver has a responsibilty to obtain a value for the CBX it holds, and I am sure it would look at appropriate bids. Those bids would be far below current market trading values of course, bearing in mind the quantity and illiquidity of the market. So, just to get things started, I would be prepared to buy all the 124k at 25% of current market value. At 2.8c current value , 25% comes to around 1 BTC. Any other offers ? If you can strike a deal with the receiver then all well and good, but most likely scenario is these 124k coins will crash CBX into oblivion. That's the issue, whoever buys those coins on the cheap can dump anytime, so who would buy at market prices today? If you buy cheap then you become the dumping whale of 2017, just when the dumping whale of 2016 emptied his bags. This is an existential crisis, 124k coins dumped cheaply kills CBX, so lets avoid death. |
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