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[steven.G999]

Seeing all the replies I think I should start with trading avoiding all gambling, mining etc.
That will be great to start with

I think if you invest in the gambling was pretty good, as in primedice and other dice games, because usually the owner of the dice always win, so you can gain enough

Ya but I think it will take more then 1yr to make enough profit for me from those site :/

why must wait one year? it's too long.
1 month may be enough, because like primedice I see it every day primedice there are thousands and even millions of bitcoin which do bet in there

[ranlo]

WHERE CAN I TRUST 100% TO INVEST MY COINS for garentee payback
CAN ANY ONE SUGGEST ME ?

In real life you cannot have guarranteed payback, even if you can the yield would be negligible since no meal is free.
However, if you want to invest some % of your bitcoins, you can consider: Bitmixer.io, Bitbond.com, or the gambling sites that allow you to invest in their bankroll. If you have altcoins to invest you could invest in BikiniDice.com bankroll (DOGE, Litecoin, Darkcoin, etc.).

Good luck....and don't invest more of the amount you can afford to lose.
 

Nice said! Thanks for the information, I also was looking for some places to invest...

Keep in mind that investing in casinos can be risky. One whale can completely tank your entire bankroll (investment) and any profits you otherwise had. While you should be fine over long periods, it could take years to see realistic gains. And throughout that time you're hoping that the site doesn't shut down, the operator doesn't run with your money, the site isn't hacked or "hacked," etc.

[Hfleer]

Bitmixer.io sounds like a nice opportunity, but their investment is full and they don't accept no new deposits.

[notlist3d]

WHERE CAN I TRUST 100% TO INVEST MY COINS for garentee payback
CAN ANY ONE SUGGEST ME ?

In real life you cannot have guarranteed payback, even if you can the yield would be negligible since no meal is free.
However, if you want to invest some % of your bitcoins, you can consider: Bitmixer.io, Bitbond.com, or the gambling sites that allow you to invest in their bankroll. If you have altcoins to invest you could invest in BikiniDice.com bankroll (DOGE, Litecoin, Darkcoin, etc.).

Good luck....and don't invest more of the amount you can afford to lose.
 

Nice said! Thanks for the information, I also was looking for some places to invest...

Keep in mind that investing in casinos can be risky. One whale can completely tank your entire bankroll (investment) and any profits you otherwise had. While you should be fine over long periods, it could take years to see realistic gains. And throughout that time you're hoping that the site doesn't shut down, the operator doesn't run with your money, the site isn't hacked or "hacked," etc.

I think a casino is a horrible investment.  If you look at dice games it seems they work for a while until they get big then they have to move servers (possibly countries) and reopen or close.

And you have to trust a operator as mentioned.   Hope they one day don't decide to ride into the sunset with your money.

[pooya87]

Bitmixer.io sounds like a nice opportunity, but their investment is full and they don't accept no new deposits.

i think it is a good opportunity too but the problem is the minimum amount of investment is 100 BTC.
their website doesn't say anything about not accepting new investment.

We are always happy to work with new investors interested in collaborating with us to make our reserve larger.

[Hfleer]

Bitmixer.io sounds like a nice opportunity, but their investment is full and they don't accept no new deposits.

i think it is a good opportunity too but the problem is the minimum amount of investment is 100 BTC.
their website doesn't say anything about not accepting new investment.

We are always happy to work with new investors interested in collaborating with us to make our reserve larger.

I contacted them and inquired about an investment over 100 BTC. but they said that they are currently at capacity and don't accept new investments.

[GreenStox]

Bitmixer.io sounds like a nice opportunity, but their investment is full and they don't accept no new deposits.

i think it is a good opportunity too but the problem is the minimum amount of investment is 100 BTC.
their website doesn't say anything about not accepting new investment.

We are always happy to work with new investors interested in collaborating with us to make our reserve larger.

100 BTC? C`mon guys, who would risk 100 BTC with unknown and unreachable people.

If they steal 100 BTC whan can you do about it?

Plus its just stupid, why would you invest 100BTC in it when others let you invest as little as 0.001 BTC, its just silly in my opinion

[Hfleer]

Bitmixer.io sounds like a nice opportunity, but their investment is full and they don't accept no new deposits.

i think it is a good opportunity too but the problem is the minimum amount of investment is 100 BTC.
their website doesn't say anything about not accepting new investment.

We are always happy to work with new investors interested in collaborating with us to make our reserve larger.

100 BTC? C`mon guys, who would risk 100 BTC with unknown and unreachable people.

If they steal 100 BTC whan can you do about it?

Plus its just stupid, why would you invest 100BTC in it when others let you invest as little as 0.001 BTC, its just silly in my opinion

You have a really narrow world view. Just because some amount of money is big for you, it must be for everyone else?

An investment is not good or bad depending on the amount invested. I bet most of your 0.001 BTC investments are worse than this particular 100 BTC investment in terms of expected ROI and risk.

[GreenStox]

You have a really narrow world view. Just because some amount of money is big for you, it must be for everyone else?

An investment is not good or bad depending on the amount invested. I bet most of your 0.001 BTC investments are worse than this particular 100 BTC investment in terms of expected ROI and risk.

Yes my world view is really narrow because i dont give out 26.000$ to complete strangers which have no accountability and cant be caught if they run away with it...

The first rule of investing is risk control and that means that you must know the investment and the trustfulness of the owners before putting a dime in it.

Risking 0.001 BTC it wont make you rich, but it is for testing purpose, to see if they pay you or run away with the money.

[Hfleer]

You have a really narrow world view. Just because some amount of money is big for you, it must be for everyone else?

An investment is not good or bad depending on the amount invested. I bet most of your 0.001 BTC investments are worse than this particular 100 BTC investment in terms of expected ROI and risk.

Yes my world view is really narrow because i dont give out 26.000$ to complete strangers which have no accountability and cant be caught if they run away with it...

The first rule of investing is risk control and that means that you must know the investment and the trustfulness of the owners before putting a dime in it.

Risking 0.001 BTC it wont make you rich, but it is for testing purpose, to see if they pay you or run away with the money.

The amount of investment is irrelevant to the chance of that person running away. I'd say for many things a higher investment makes it even unliklier that a person vanishes, because the amount of money he can gain from the investments is enough to make a living. A site that accepts microinvestments will most likely be only a hobby.

[GreenStox]

The amount of investment is irrelevant to the chance of that person running away. I'd say for many things a higher investment makes it even unliklier that a person vanishes, because the amount of money he can gain from the investments is enough to make a living. A site that accepts microinvestments will most likely be only a hobby.

That is nonsense, you dont look from their perspective you look for your pespecitve. A street hustler can steal the same way 1$ like Bernie Madoff stole millions of $.

The question remains which hurts the most losing 0.001BTC or losing 100BTC.

Also dont underestimate the scammers around bitcoin. Even if he can make a fulltime income with it, he can still run away with it if there is no way of detecting his identity.

Also running a microinvestment site can be profitable aswell if enough people invest in you, and even if it turns out as a scam, the individuals lost much less / capita , than if it were a closed investment with 10 people investing 100BTC, the /capita loss would be big.

[Hfleer]

The amount of investment is irrelevant to the chance of that person running away. I'd say for many things a higher investment makes it even unliklier that a person vanishes, because the amount of money he can gain from the investments is enough to make a living. A site that accepts microinvestments will most likely be only a hobby.

That is nonsense, you dont look from their perspective you look for your pespecitve. A street hustler can steal the same way 1$ like Bernie Madoff stole millions of $.

The question remains which hurts the most losing 0.001BTC or losing 100BTC.

Also dont underestimate the scammers around bitcoin. Even if he can make a fulltime income with it, he can still run away with it if there is no way of detecting his identity.

Also running a microinvestment site can be profitable aswell if enough people invest in you, and even if it turns out as a scam, the individuals lost much less / capita , than if it were a closed investment with 10 people investing 100BTC, the /capita loss would be big.

Yeah but how many micro investments sites do have a valid business modell as bitmixer.io has?

And the point still stands that 100 BTC for one person might be equal to 0.1 BTC or something of another person.

[GreenStox]

The amount of investment is irrelevant to the chance of that person running away. I'd say for many things a higher investment makes it even unliklier that a person vanishes, because the amount of money he can gain from the investments is enough to make a living. A site that accepts microinvestments will most likely be only a hobby.

That is nonsense, you dont look from their perspective you look for your pespecitve. A street hustler can steal the same way 1$ like Bernie Madoff stole millions of $.

The question remains which hurts the most losing 0.001BTC or losing 100BTC.

Also dont underestimate the scammers around bitcoin. Even if he can make a fulltime income with it, he can still run away with it if there is no way of detecting his identity.

Also running a microinvestment site can be profitable aswell if enough people invest in you, and even if it turns out as a scam, the individuals lost much less / capita , than if it were a closed investment with 10 people investing 100BTC, the /capita loss would be big.

Yeah but how many micro investments sites do have a valid business modell as bitmixer.io has?

And the point still stands that 100 BTC for one person might be equal to 0.1 BTC or something of another person.

Absense of evidence is not evidence of absense.

Also you fail to understand the point, its not about rich people investing vs poor people investing, its about everyone who invests, first should check its risk tolerance. A rich guy should also invest 0.1 BTC on its first investment just to see how it turns out, no sane guy just throws money wildly, you see no billionaire do that, they are precise and careful.

If you think that gambling 100 BTC is the same than carefully planned investment with risk analysis, then your are very wrong.

[Hfleer]

The amount of investment is irrelevant to the chance of that person running away. I'd say for many things a higher investment makes it even unliklier that a person vanishes, because the amount of money he can gain from the investments is enough to make a living. A site that accepts microinvestments will most likely be only a hobby.

That is nonsense, you dont look from their perspective you look for your pespecitve. A street hustler can steal the same way 1$ like Bernie Madoff stole millions of $.

The question remains which hurts the most losing 0.001BTC or losing 100BTC.

Also dont underestimate the scammers around bitcoin. Even if he can make a fulltime income with it, he can still run away with it if there is no way of detecting his identity.

Also running a microinvestment site can be profitable aswell if enough people invest in you, and even if it turns out as a scam, the individuals lost much less / capita , than if it were a closed investment with 10 people investing 100BTC, the /capita loss would be big.

Yeah but how many micro investments sites do have a valid business modell as bitmixer.io has?

And the point still stands that 100 BTC for one person might be equal to 0.1 BTC or something of another person.

Absense of evidence is not evidence of absense.

Also you fail to understand the point, its not about rich people investing vs poor people investing, its about everyone who invests, first should check its risk tolerance. A rich guy should also invest 0.1 BTC on its first investment just to see how it turns out, no sane guy just throws money wildly, you see no billionaire do that, they are precise and careful.

If you think that gambling 100 BTC is the same than carefully planned investment with risk analysis, then your are very wrong.

That is just plain stupud. Investing a small amount first to see how it does is the reason that most ponzis get so successful. They do indeed give a payout on the small investments and bail with the big ones.

Intelligent investors will never invest in such shit in the first place and will invest in things with real businessplan and a proven trackrecord.

[GreenStox]

That is just plain stupud. Investing a small amount first to see how it does is the reason that most ponzis get so successful. They do indeed give a payout on the small investments and bail with the big ones.

Intelligent investors will never invest in such shit in the first place and will invest in things with real businessplan and a proven trackrecord.

Assumptions..

Who said anything about ponzis here?

I was saying about any investment. From your own perspective it's always better to just put your finger in the boiling water than to jump in it.

Even if it says about itself that its a legit service you can never know who is a scammer, so by default investing small amounts in something is better than large amounts.

Intelligent investors dont throw around 26.000$ worth of BTC to unaccountable people, even if they promise the stars for them.

Dumb investors will put their entire life savings in a get-rich-quick scheme, and then cry about it later when they lose it all.

[Hfleer]

That is just plain stupud. Investing a small amount first to see how it does is the reason that most ponzis get so successful. They do indeed give a payout on the small investments and bail with the big ones.

Intelligent investors will never invest in such shit in the first place and will invest in things with real businessplan and a proven trackrecord.

Assumptions..

Who said anything about ponzis here?

I was saying about any investment. From your own perspective it's always better to just put your finger in the boiling water than to jump in it.

Even if it says about itself that its a legit service you can never know who is a scammer, so by default investing small amounts in something is better than large amounts.

Intelligent investors dont throw around 26.000$ worth of BTC to unaccountable people, even if they promise the stars for them.

Dumb investors will put their entire life savings in a get-rich-quick scheme, and then cry about it later when they lose it all.

If you have a 5 M USD portfolio of cryptos that you want to invest into related businesses and services, then you won't go around doing 0.1 BTC investments...

Also anonymity doesn't equal unhonesty. bitmixer.io is basically the oldest existing mixer. Or would you argue that its risky to invest money at a site that dooglus manages?

[GreenStox]

That is just plain stupud. Investing a small amount first to see how it does is the reason that most ponzis get so successful. They do indeed give a payout on the small investments and bail with the big ones.

Intelligent investors will never invest in such shit in the first place and will invest in things with real businessplan and a proven trackrecord.

Assumptions..

Who said anything about ponzis here?

I was saying about any investment. From your own perspective it's always better to just put your finger in the boiling water than to jump in it.

Even if it says about itself that its a legit service you can never know who is a scammer, so by default investing small amounts in something is better than large amounts.

Intelligent investors dont throw around 26.000$ worth of BTC to unaccountable people, even if they promise the stars for them.

Dumb investors will put their entire life savings in a get-rich-quick scheme, and then cry about it later when they lose it all.

If you have a 5 M USD portfolio of cryptos that you want to invest into related businesses and services, then you won't go around doing 0.1 BTC investments...

Also anonymity doesn't equal unhonesty. bitmixer.io is basically the oldest existing mixer. Or would you argue that its risky to invest money at a site that dooglus manages?

Actually yes you do, because you didnt aquired that 5m $ portfolio by throwing around 26k $ on random investment sites. There are plenty of matrix sites and ponzi sites where you can throw around 26k and if you are lucky you might make some money, but thats gambling not investing.

A careful investor first puts his finger in the water to see if its boiling or not, and only then jump in it.

I`m not familiar with that mixer site or the owner, but this is just a general rule of thumb about investing, and its valid for any investment you make.

[ranlo]

That is just plain stupud. Investing a small amount first to see how it does is the reason that most ponzis get so successful. They do indeed give a payout on the small investments and bail with the big ones.

Intelligent investors will never invest in such shit in the first place and will invest in things with real businessplan and a proven trackrecord.

Assumptions..

Who said anything about ponzis here?

I was saying about any investment. From your own perspective it's always better to just put your finger in the boiling water than to jump in it.

Even if it says about itself that its a legit service you can never know who is a scammer, so by default investing small amounts in something is better than large amounts.

Intelligent investors dont throw around 26.000$ worth of BTC to unaccountable people, even if they promise the stars for them.

Dumb investors will put their entire life savings in a get-rich-quick scheme, and then cry about it later when they lose it all.

If you have a 5 M USD portfolio of cryptos that you want to invest into related businesses and services, then you won't go around doing 0.1 BTC investments...

Also anonymity doesn't equal unhonesty. bitmixer.io is basically the oldest existing mixer. Or would you argue that its risky to invest money at a site that dooglus manages?

Actually yes you do, because you didnt aquired that 5m $ portfolio by throwing around 26k $ on random investment sites. There are plenty of matrix sites and ponzi sites where you can throw around 26k and if you are lucky you might make some money, but thats gambling not investing.

A careful investor first puts his finger in the water to see if its boiling or not, and only then jump in it.

I`m not familiar with that mixer site or the owner, but this is just a general rule of thumb about investing, and its valid for any investment you make.

Actually, the BIG winners are those that speculate. Those that say "x will be the next big thing" and bet big on it, watching it blow up. Places like MNST (Monster Energy Drinks), for example.

[GreenStox]

Actually, the BIG winners are those that speculate. Those that say "x will be the next big thing" and bet big on it, watching it blow up. Places like MNST (Monster Energy Drinks), for example.

If you think like that then you are a gambler and know nothing of investments. It's never the "all in" guys that win, in fact most of them always lose.

It's obvious now that you know nothing about responsible trading/investment AND risk-control. I`ve traded a couple of years forex, and i saw guys losing there 100.000 dollars in minutes because they could not control their emotions, just like in a casino.

How many guys you see walking out of a casino with a smiling face? It's really misleading if you see 1 guy winning 50.000$ because he gambled it. So what? You never see the other 100 guys telling you how much they lose.

It's a false paradigm like the lottery. You see 1 guy winning millions of $, but you never see the many other million of guys losing every single bet for their entire life....

[deisik]

Insider trading is illegal and immoral, but it's probably the best way to generate a huge profit with minimal risk, if the guy you're talking to is a person you know and trust. Probably the best option to go for if you're trading altcoins etc., as there's lots of people on the dark net who can provide those kind of information.

regardless if its immoral or not, people do it lol

its called capitalism and those who can get away with it will do it over again.

Insider trading might be immoral but it is definately not illegal in all markets. Bitcoin and altcoin markets are not regulated and can thus not be under normal regulation regarding insider trading.

And because of that, some people who have some solid connections to the exchanges do this, generating themselves huge profits. I would admit that if I have that some kind of connection, I would sometimes do it for the sake of profit. Not being greedy or evil, but just being practical.

And to gain huge profits you even don't need insider information as such. It is enough to be able to place your bids and asks before anyone else in the order-book in a tight market like that of dogecoin. I've caught cryptsy doing just that (have snapshots of my orders being pushed further in the order queue)...

I don't trade there any longer