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And to gain huge profits you even don't need insider information as such. It is enough to be able to place your bids and asks before anyone else in the order-book in a tight market like that of dogecoin. I've caught cryptsy doing just that (have snapshots of my orders being pushed further in the order queue)...
I don't trade there any longer
That could be only a slippage, probably not intentional. If it's intentional though then they are then a bucket shop and probably not good to trade with them.
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March 23, 2015, 11:18:07 AM |
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And to gain huge profits you even don't need insider information as such. It is enough to be able to place your bids and asks before anyone else in the order-book in a tight market like that of dogecoin. I've caught cryptsy doing just that (have snapshots of my orders being pushed further in the order queue)...
I don't trade there any longer
That could be only a slippage, probably not intentional. If it's intentional though then they are then a bucket shop and probably not good to trade with them. What do you mean by slippage here? Actually, there are two options to explain this. The first is that they are pushing their own orders (or someone else's who is close to them) ahead of anyone else, or their trade engine is broken. I asked them about this issue. At first they pretended they didn't understand what I meant, but when I showed them screenshots, they had nothing left but to just ignore me...
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March 23, 2015, 11:23:54 AM |
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What do you mean by slippage here? Actually, there are two options to explain this. The first is that they are pushing their own orders (or someone else's who is close to them) ahead of anyone else, or their trade engine is broken. I asked them about this issue. At first they pretended they didn't understand what I meant, but when I showed them screenshots, they had nothing left but to just ignore me...
Slippage is when the order is delayed and executed at a different price than it was set, due to the oveewhelming of their servers. Although in your case i smell a scam alert, they could be a bucket shop like mt.gox , if this happense again i think you should open a thread about it, and expose their scammer asses so that people should be aware of this. If they intentionally put the orders ahread of yours thats called front-running and it's the method that scammy exchanges use in many markets.
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March 23, 2015, 11:32:34 AM |
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What do you mean by slippage here? Actually, there are two options to explain this. The first is that they are pushing their own orders (or someone else's who is close to them) ahead of anyone else, or their trade engine is broken. I asked them about this issue. At first they pretended they didn't understand what I meant, but when I showed them screenshots, they had nothing left but to just ignore me...
Slippage is when the order is delayed and executed at a different price than it was set, due to the oveewhelming of their servers. Although in your case i smell a scam alert, they could be a bucket shop like mt.gox , if this happense again i think you should open a thread about it, and expose their scammer asses so that people should be aware of this. If they intentionally put the orders ahread of yours thats called front-running and it's the method that scammy exchanges use in many markets.It is not even a true front running, since front running involves some risk for the exchange. But when a market is tight, that is, where the difference between a lowest ask and highest bid is minimal (and cannot be less than that), you as an exchange can place your buy and sell orders before anyone else, and safely earn profits (at present two opposite trades in dogecoins will earn you 2% of profit)... There could be no slippage by any means. How can an order be executed at a price other than what you set it at?
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March 23, 2015, 11:40:10 AM |
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It is not even a true front running, since front running involves some risk for the exchange. But when a market is tight, that is, where the difference between a lowest ask and highest bid is minimal (and cannot be less than that), you as an exchange can place your buy and sell orders before anyone else, and safely earn profits (in case of dogecoins two opposite trades will earn you 2% profit at present)...
That's just arbitrage then, thats no big deal, many people do it, and it's actually beneficiary because it provides liquidity and better prices for those who wish to sell/buy. The whole purpose of traders is to provide better prices for commercial buyers or personal buyers. I`m not familiar with their exchange model , are they market makers or just simple peer-to-peer exchange? There could be no slippage by any means. How can an order be executed at a different price other than what you set it at?
Sorry i was confusing it with CFD's. Are they peer-to-peer exchange right? If yes then dont worry about slippage, it only exists in CFD markets. In P2P markets you set the price.
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March 23, 2015, 04:20:34 PM |
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Insider trading is illegal and immoral, but it's probably the best way to generate a huge profit with minimal risk, if the guy you're talking to is a person you know and trust. Probably the best option to go for if you're trading altcoins etc., as there's lots of people on the dark net who can provide those kind of information.
regardless if its immoral or not, people do it lol its called capitalism and those who can get away with it will do it over again. Insider trading might be immoral but it is definately not illegal in all markets. Bitcoin and altcoin markets are not regulated and can thus not be under normal regulation regarding insider trading. And because of that, some people who have some solid connections to the exchanges do this, generating themselves huge profits. I would admit that if I have that some kind of connection, I would sometimes do it for the sake of profit. Not being greedy or evil, but just being practical. And to gain huge profits you even don't need insider information as such. It is enough to be able to place your bids and asks before anyone else in the order-book in a tight market like that of dogecoin. I've caught cryptsy doing just that (have snapshots of my orders being pushed further in the order queue)... I don't trade there any longer I can say that I've never experienced this. Not even once. And that includes Cryptsy and other sites. What you're probably experiencing is the server lag, which is entirely different.
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March 23, 2015, 04:35:27 PM |
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It is not even a true front running, since front running involves some risk for the exchange. But when a market is tight, that is, where the difference between a lowest ask and highest bid is minimal (and cannot be less than that), you as an exchange can place your buy and sell orders before anyone else, and safely earn profits (in case of dogecoins two opposite trades will earn you 2% profit at present)...
That's just arbitrage then, thats no big deal, many people do it, and it's actually beneficiary because it provides liquidity and better prices for those who wish to sell/buy. The whole purpose of traders is to provide better prices for commercial buyers or personal buyers. You don't understand. There are many orders at these two price levels (bids and asks). For example, right now there are 7.83 BTC in sells at 0.00000051, and 40.21 BTC in buys at 0.00000050. There can be no price in between, I specifically mentioned that. If you are an exchange you can safely buy and sell at these levels (provided you place your orders before anyone else's pending orders at that price), since someone will surely buy from you or sell to you... And at any moment you can close your position without taking losses
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March 25, 2015, 09:03:12 AM |
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Where can I trust 100% toinvest mycoins for garentee payback Please help me for that ! Sincere thanks !
You cannot 100% trust to someone for a safe payback. No free lunch exists in the world. Instead you should try accept some degree of risk of losing your coins if you are really interested to Investments; otherwise, keep all of them in a secure wallet.
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March 25, 2015, 09:48:50 AM |
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How to mine bitcoin with a laptop ? I don't know anything about "MINE" LOL!
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I would never mine with a laptop due the high risks of damaging it due to the increased temperatures (consider a laptop is more enclosed than a desktop).
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March 25, 2015, 10:58:10 AM |
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How to mine bitcoin with a laptop ? I don't know anything about "MINE" LOL!
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Don't bother mining with a laptop you will not earn a single satoshi from it. If you want to mine Bitcoins you need special hardware, Which requires lot of investments to actually make profit.(Mining should be done where electricity is cheaper.)
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March 25, 2015, 12:26:12 PM |
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How to mine bitcoin with a laptop ? I don't know anything about "MINE" LOL!
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That will be a bad idea I think. It will take hundreds of month to mine a btc from a single laptop. Well thank u for the reply ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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March 25, 2015, 08:27:23 PM |
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How to mine bitcoin with a laptop ? I don't know anything about "MINE" LOL!
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That will be a bad idea I think. It will take hundreds of month to mine a btc from a single laptop. Well thank u for the reply ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Hundreds of YEARS. And you'd fry your laptop within a year most likely due to running the CPU and/or GPU at maximum capacity. Laptops aren't designed to dissipate heat too well.
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March 25, 2015, 08:40:14 PM |
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How to mine bitcoin with a laptop ? I don't know anything about "MINE" LOL!
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That will be a bad idea I think. It will take hundreds of month to mine a btc from a single laptop. Well thank u for the reply ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Hundreds of YEARS. And you'd fry your laptop within a year most likely due to running the CPU and/or GPU at maximum capacity. Laptops aren't designed to dissipate heat too well. He'd fry his laptop in a week lol, i also rand heavy applications before and just after a few hours i smelled the smoke coming out, so totally not recommended to do that. Not even mining altcoins, yes definitely agree, laptops are not good, unless you put it in the fridge lol
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WHERE CAN I TRUST 100% TO INVEST MY COINS for garentee payback CAN ANY ONE SUGGEST ME ?
The main thing is you get that out of your head to start, you can't trust nobody trust investing in nothing 100% every investment will have risk but that is what makes it exciting so.... Investing in a new casino is a big risk but can be rewarding, buying a high rank account and joining a highly paid signature campaign gives you the best chance at a risk free investment as long as your posts are constructive and you don't get banned you should roi in a few weeks. All investments carry risk your best bet to find something you enjoy and then going with it. I like to sell coins for cash then buy back at cheaper rate has a risk..
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TC is the worse thing to happen to default, needs to open his eyes and not jump to conclusions, not everyone lies!!! Anyway as promised I have left, pass word changed to long random which I will forget like that plonker who ruined a perfectly fine account.
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a few years back i'm only invest in cloud mining, but now there is no investment that is so good, if there is a good investment at this time, I really want to invest
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March 26, 2015, 08:17:10 PM |
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a few years back i'm only invest in cloud mining, but now there is no investment that is so good, if there is a good investment at this time, I really want to invest
Cloud mining sounds like a ponzi scheme, you cant know if they really mine or not. Also since the difficulty keeps going up and the price doesnt, then its really a bad investment
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Actually, the BIG winners are those that speculate. Those that say "x will be the next big thing" and bet big on it, watching it blow up. Places like MNST (Monster Energy Drinks), for example.
If you think like that then you are a gambler and know nothing of investments. It's never the "all in" guys that win, in fact most of them always lose. It's obvious now that you know nothing about responsible trading/investment AND risk-control. I`ve traded a couple of years forex, and i saw guys losing there 100.000 dollars in minutes because they could not control their emotions, just like in a casino. How many guys you see walking out of a casino with a smiling face? It's really misleading if you see 1 guy winning 50.000$ because he gambled it. So what? You never see the other 100 guys telling you how much they lose. It's a false paradigm like the lottery. You see 1 guy winning millions of $, but you never see the many other million of guys losing every single bet for their entire life.... Betting big on Bitcoin is not, at all, the same as going to a casino and betting big on the roulette. With Bitcoin you have 50/50. And I and almost everyone with half a brain KNOW that it will go way higher than what it is now. It's a good opportunity to go big. And sure, doing small time investments in forex brings some gains, but you'll never be rich in the lifetime without taking risks.
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March 26, 2015, 11:42:34 PM |
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a few years back i'm only invest in cloud mining, but now there is no investment that is so good, if there is a good investment at this time, I really want to invest
New upcoming casino's or dice sites could be a fairly good investment, or there are a few decentralized markets now out am sure when people click on to the power of them then the coins that power them will go threw the roof, who does not want a ebay type place for crypto. I have invested in a couple of altcoins as stated above and i trade a large percentage of my bitcoin which is the investment i keep most of my attention on.
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March 27, 2015, 12:55:22 AM |
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a few years back i'm only invest in cloud mining, but now there is no investment that is so good, if there is a good investment at this time, I really want to invest
New upcoming casino's or dice sites could be a fairly good investment, or there are a few decentralized markets now out am sure when people click on to the power of them then the coins that power them will go threw the roof, who does not want a ebay type place for crypto. I have invested in a couple of altcoins as stated above and i trade a large percentage of my bitcoin which is the investment i keep most of my attention on. I think the hard part about this is finding a place it's legal. If you get big there is a decent chance of being shutdown on casinos and dice. I see online gambling sites as risky investment overall.
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March 27, 2015, 01:40:47 AM |
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a few years back i'm only invest in cloud mining, but now there is no investment that is so good, if there is a good investment at this time, I really want to invest
New upcoming casino's or dice sites could be a fairly good investment, or there are a few decentralized markets now out am sure when people click on to the power of them then the coins that power them will go threw the roof, who does not want a ebay type place for crypto. I have invested in a couple of altcoins as stated above and i trade a large percentage of my bitcoin which is the investment i keep most of my attention on. New sites are also risky. They can go down at any time, if they're a scam. I'd classify it as high risk, high reward. You can earn a lot but you can lose it all.
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