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September 10, 2015, 07:47:43 AM
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I think I won a high payout with my faucet as a start, I have mailed support. I opened up a trouble ticket because multiple withdrawals were pending for some amount of time and I was banned shortly after support responded with:

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Please read our terms and conditions regarding faucet farming here:
https://www.dadice.com/print?farming

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clause 4.6 here:
https://www.dadice.com/print?terms

Eitherway, do you have any bug to report since your winnings from faucet are remarkable.


I did do a high payout with my faucet as a start, which I did not have any idea was not allowed, I was not tipping min amount over and over, I won 0.015 or something, got that up to 0.69, issued withdraw for 0.6, played the 0.09 up to 10.45 BTC, issued 8.45BTC withdraw, played the remaining up to 5.75 BTC and then lost that. I've become a more cynical person today, If it sounds too good to be true ...

Based on the TOS what you did is not prohibited. You shouldn't have been banned in the first place.. You didn't farm the faucet, you just won from it. What it's not allowed is to wager the max faucet with a high multiplier (x5 and above), tip to another account and then repeat, accumulating this way a bigger balance. Correct me if i'm wrong but this is not the case here.

 

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September 10, 2015, 07:56:15 AM
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I think I won a high payout with my faucet as a start, I have mailed support. I opened up a trouble ticket because multiple withdrawals were pending for some amount of time and I was banned shortly after support responded with:

I did do a high payout with my faucet as a start, which I did not have any idea was not allowed, I was not tipping min amount over and over, I won 0.015 or something, got that up to 0.69, issued withdraw for 0.6, played the 0.09 up to 10.45 BTC, issued 8.45BTC withdraw, played the remaining up to 5.75 BTC and then lost that. I've become a more cynical person today, If it sounds too good to be true ...
You have some good luck there but I wouldn't be surprised if Dadice doesn't honor your withdrawal request as its in their terms of service
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there is no obligation to honour withdrawal requests that are a result of faucet use only.
And as far as I can understand, you made those 10btc all from just faucet.
I'm already of the opinion that they will not given the ban and all. And yes, I did not notice that addition to the TOS or would not have even wasted time collecting the faucet. It must have been added sometime between when I was playing in the spring and when I came back recently. Lesson learned, I just want others to know what to expect if they get as "lucky" as I did with the faucet.
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September 10, 2015, 11:20:47 AM
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Well, this part of the TOS was discussed here in this forum a while ago.

Reason why the account was suspended are the following faucet rolls: 198x, 9.9x, 24.75x, 99x, 202.0408x, 7.0714x, 6.6x, 5.2105x. Literally hundreds of such rolls has been made.

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September 10, 2015, 02:26:31 PM
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Well, this part of the TOS was discussed here in this forum a while ago.

Reason why the account was suspended are the following faucet rolls: 198x, 9.9x, 24.75x, 99x, 202.0408x, 7.0714x, 6.6x, 5.2105x. Literally hundreds of such rolls has been made.

How much BTC DaDice lost due to faucet abusers?

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September 10, 2015, 08:05:06 PM
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Well, this part of the TOS was discussed here in this forum a while ago.

Reason why the account was suspended are the following faucet rolls: 198x, 9.9x, 24.75x, 99x, 202.0408x, 7.0714x, 6.6x, 5.2105x. Literally hundreds of such rolls has been made.
Well at least you are publicly admitting that faucet rolls on high payout will not be honored and will result in a ban even if the person has deposited >1BTC in the past. I have been contacting my friends who I referred to DaDice in the past and they will also no longer make deposits on your site.
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September 10, 2015, 08:16:41 PM
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Well, this part of the TOS was discussed here in this forum a while ago.

Reason why the account was suspended are the following faucet rolls: 198x, 9.9x, 24.75x, 99x, 202.0408x, 7.0714x, 6.6x, 5.2105x. Literally hundreds of such rolls has been made.

If you don't want users to claim the faucets too many times, why don't you add a cap on the daily claim or total claim? I think it would be a better approach than to block withdrawals as it should create less controversy. Just my 2 cents.

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September 10, 2015, 08:35:37 PM
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is more time i see this problem to dadice.
i have satoshi to account, click to bet, rollin for xx second, later rollin stop, don't appared a bet in my stat, but i have lose my satoshi. Why ?
i have register a video and add to youtube

https://youtu.be/wzO_-9mWiSQ
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September 10, 2015, 08:38:22 PM
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Well, this part of the TOS was discussed here in this forum a while ago.

Reason why the account was suspended are the following faucet rolls: 198x, 9.9x, 24.75x, 99x, 202.0408x, 7.0714x, 6.6x, 5.2105x. Literally hundreds of such rolls has been made.

If you don't want users to claim the faucets too many times, why don't you add a cap on the daily claim or total claim? I think it would be a better approach than to block withdrawals as it should create less controversy. Just my 2 cents.
As per the TOS they have no obligation to honor any withdraw made from faucet, so it makes the faucet pretty pointless to even have. Even if I had not done high payout odds I would still have had my withdraw denied. They should just completely disable faucet if it is pointless(CANNOT WIN).
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September 10, 2015, 08:38:56 PM
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is more time i see this problem to dadice.
i have satoshi to account, click to bet, rollin for xx second, later rollin stop, don't appared a bet in my stat, but i have lose my satoshi. Why ?
i have register a video and add to youtube

https://youtu.be/wzO_-9mWiSQ

Happened to me as well at least two times.
The biggest problem is that you have no betting history and can't look up what happened...
Dadice is just too laggy...


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September 10, 2015, 10:05:55 PM
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THE ROLL COUNT!!!

We are now at 929 million rolls!! Well done! Smiley

Remember there will be 0.05btc added to the massive 1btc winnings for every day before the 30th of September!!

This thread will have your daily updates stay tuned for tomorrow..

Keep Rollin & Good Luck!
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September 10, 2015, 10:45:27 PM
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THE ROLL COUNT!!!

We are now at 929 million rolls!! Well done! Smiley

Remember there will be 0.05btc added to the massive 1btc winnings for every day before the 30th of September!!

This thread will have your daily updates stay tuned for tomorrow..

Keep Rollin & Good Luck!

you don't have reply my msg, where is my bet? not is the first time bet lose without see the number roll


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September 10, 2015, 11:21:30 PM
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Looks ok might give it a try.
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September 11, 2015, 01:45:23 AM
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Well, this part of the TOS was discussed here in this forum a while ago.

Reason why the account was suspended are the following faucet rolls: 198x, 9.9x, 24.75x, 99x, 202.0408x, 7.0714x, 6.6x, 5.2105x. Literally hundreds of such rolls has been made.

On the TOS for faucets, it says this "Please note that we also reserve right to ban all accounts and confiscate any amount of balance (resulted from faucet farming), if we find any user involved in severe faucet abuse, e.g. using multiple accounts and aliases farming faucet throughout the day."

Did the user 'asdfgh' spam the faucet a bunch before he got lucky and ended up winning a bunch? Or did he just happen to get the faucet and happen to win a lot? I don't see why you should ban him and take away the bitcoin he earned if he has never farmed or spammed the faucet before. I completely understand if he was farming the faucet a ton and trying to hit 198x's and such from the very start a bunch of times previously. But I was there when it happened and it seemed to me like he lost some bitcoin after depositing and he just happened to use the faucet while waiting and happened to hit a lot of lucky rolls. That doesn't seem like abusing/farming to me.
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September 11, 2015, 02:08:59 AM
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Well, this part of the TOS was discussed here in this forum a while ago.

Reason why the account was suspended are the following faucet rolls: 198x, 9.9x, 24.75x, 99x, 202.0408x, 7.0714x, 6.6x, 5.2105x. Literally hundreds of such rolls has been made.

On the TOS for faucets, it says this "Please note that we also reserve right to ban all accounts and confiscate any amount of balance (resulted from faucet farming), if we find any user involved in severe faucet abuse, e.g. using multiple accounts and aliases farming faucet throughout the day."

Did the user 'asdfgh' spam the faucet a bunch before he got lucky and ended up winning a bunch? Or did he just happen to get the faucet and happen to win a lot? I don't see why you should ban him and take away the bitcoin he earned if he has never farmed or spammed the faucet before. I completely understand if he was farming the faucet a ton and trying to hit 198x's and such from the very start a bunch of times previously. But I was there when it happened and it seemed to me like he lost some bitcoin after depositing and he just happened to use the faucet while waiting and happened to hit a lot of lucky rolls. That doesn't seem like abusing/farming to me.
I found all of this out after the fact, I just got back into playing and did roll high multi's trying to get something to start with. My losses were from the spring when I lost a substantial amount(for me anyways). DaDice already won all of the bitcoin I had 4 months ago.
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September 11, 2015, 05:09:23 AM
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Well, this part of the TOS was discussed here in this forum a while ago.

Reason why the account was suspended are the following faucet rolls: 198x, 9.9x, 24.75x, 99x, 202.0408x, 7.0714x, 6.6x, 5.2105x. Literally hundreds of such rolls has been made.

If you don't want users to claim the faucets too many times, why don't you add a cap on the daily claim or total claim? I think it would be a better approach than to block withdrawals as it should create less controversy. Just my 2 cents.
As per the TOS they have no obligation to honor any withdraw made from faucet, so it makes the faucet pretty pointless to even have. Even if I had not done high payout odds I would still have had my withdraw denied. They should just completely disable faucet if it is pointless(CANNOT WIN).

Wrong there. Da Dice will honor most of the withdrawals relating to the faucet. But say if you kept claiming faucet and kept on rolling high multipliers (I confirmed you did) some day you will sure hit it. And say 10 people won 10BTC from faucet do you think it is actually feasible for sites to do that? Making very huge amounts by betting massive multipliers from virtually nothing qualify as faucet abuse.

Just my opinion. Smiley
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September 11, 2015, 06:12:30 AM
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i don't like the pubblicity "faucet up to 12500 satoshi" and later blocked account who use faucet many times.
Write a symple rules, you can use faucet every xx minutes, later if people bet to xx2 or x1000 where is the problem ?
i have used in the past the primedice faucet more time with moltiplicator over 1000, but primedice have continue pay (and when i see a seriuos site i deposit and play)
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September 11, 2015, 07:08:50 AM
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Well, this part of the TOS was discussed here in this forum a while ago.

Reason why the account was suspended are the following faucet rolls: 198x, 9.9x, 24.75x, 99x, 202.0408x, 7.0714x, 6.6x, 5.2105x. Literally hundreds of such rolls has been made.

If you don't want users to claim the faucets too many times, why don't you add a cap on the daily claim or total claim? I think it would be a better approach than to block withdrawals as it should create less controversy. Just my 2 cents.
As per the TOS they have no obligation to honor any withdraw made from faucet, so it makes the faucet pretty pointless to even have. Even if I had not done high payout odds I would still have had my withdraw denied. They should just completely disable faucet if it is pointless(CANNOT WIN).

Wrong there. Da Dice will honor most of the withdrawals relating to the faucet. But say if you kept claiming faucet and kept on rolling high multipliers (I confirmed you did) some day you will sure hit it. And say 10 people won 10BTC from faucet do you think it is actually feasible for sites to do that? Making very huge amounts by betting massive multipliers from virtually nothing qualify as faucet abuse.

Just my opinion. Smiley
They should still just completely disable it, I was given no reason to believe my account would be closed
i don't like the pubblicity "faucet up to 12500 satoshi" and later blocked account who use faucet many times.
Write a symple rules, you can use faucet every xx minutes, later if people bet to xx2 or x1000 where is the problem ?
i have used in the past the primedice faucet more time with moltiplicator over 1000, but primedice have continue pay (and when i see a seriuos site i deposit and play)

Unless you win something like 5-10BTC off faucet. Tongue

You know the real reason faucet is there in dice sites?
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like to repeat that faucet is a complimentary tool for our players to test Da Dice and/or evaluate their playing strategies (which is a standard practice in several online casinos).
There was no ban for the days of using the faucet and not winning, nor the times I won and lost, but when I win big once the account closed. They should not give me an 8000 satoshi faucet then ban me because they didn't like my payout odds I've used since I created the account in March. The odds of me going from 8000 satoshis to 10.5BTC is exactly the same regardless of the payouts involved, I know I was exceedingly lucky to have multiplied it that many times. I know the math involved in this field, I've written implementations of the algorithms used by various dice sites. The fact remains this will happen to future users if they were to get so lucky from the faucet. Claiming use of 5x<->9900x is invalid use is laughable, the service itself should not be provided if that is the case.
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September 11, 2015, 07:14:28 AM
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people like faucet can use another site, for example crypto-games have a good faucet option, if you use faucet, win and withdraw, faucet is stopped for 24 hours

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September 11, 2015, 07:28:38 AM
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people like faucet can use another site, for example crypto-games have a good faucet option, if you use faucet, win and withdraw, faucet is stopped for 24 hours

I seriously doubt they will pay 10BTC made purely from faucet, to be honest.


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Unless you win something like 5-10BTC off faucet. Tongue

You know the real reason faucet is there in dice sites?
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like to repeat that faucet is a complimentary tool for our players to test Da Dice and/or evaluate their playing strategies (which is a standard practice in several online casinos).

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 the service itself should not be provided if that is the case.

The real reason for the faucet, again is:
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like to repeat that faucet is a complimentary tool for our players to test Da Dice and/or evaluate their playing strategies (which is a standard practice in several online casinos).

Doesn't justify closing it. Wink
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September 11, 2015, 07:29:30 AM
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Even primedice takes actions against faucet farmers and confiscates their balances.
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