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[bsdunx]

Well, this part of the TOS was discussed here in this forum a while ago.

Reason why the account was suspended are the following faucet rolls: 198x, 9.9x, 24.75x, 99x, 202.0408x, 7.0714x, 6.6x, 5.2105x. Literally hundreds of such rolls has been made.

On the TOS for faucets, it says this "Please note that we also reserve right to ban all accounts and confiscate any amount of balance (resulted from faucet farming), if we find any user involved in severe faucet abuse, e.g. using multiple accounts and aliases farming faucet throughout the day."

Did the user 'asdfgh' spam the faucet a bunch before he got lucky and ended up winning a bunch? Or did he just happen to get the faucet and happen to win a lot? I don't see why you should ban him and take away the bitcoin he earned if he has never farmed or spammed the faucet before. I completely understand if he was farming the faucet a ton and trying to hit 198x's and such from the very start a bunch of times previously. But I was there when it happened and it seemed to me like he lost some bitcoin after depositing and he just happened to use the faucet while waiting and happened to hit a lot of lucky rolls. That doesn't seem like abusing/farming to me.

I found all of this out after the fact, I just got back into playing and did roll high multi's trying to get something to start with. My losses were from the spring when I lost a substantial amount(for me anyways). DaDice already won all of the bitcoin I had 4 months ago.

[ndnh]

Well, this part of the TOS was discussed here in this forum a while ago.

Reason why the account was suspended are the following faucet rolls: 198x, 9.9x, 24.75x, 99x, 202.0408x, 7.0714x, 6.6x, 5.2105x. Literally hundreds of such rolls has been made.

If you don't want users to claim the faucets too many times, why don't you add a cap on the daily claim or total claim? I think it would be a better approach than to block withdrawals as it should create less controversy. Just my 2 cents.

As per the TOS they have no obligation to honor any withdraw made from faucet, so it makes the faucet pretty pointless to even have. Even if I had not done high payout odds I would still have had my withdraw denied. They should just completely disable faucet if it is pointless(CANNOT WIN).

Wrong there. Da Dice will honor most of the withdrawals relating to the faucet. But say if you kept claiming faucet and kept on rolling high multipliers (I confirmed you did) some day you will sure hit it. And say 10 people won 10BTC from faucet do you think it is actually feasible for sites to do that? Making very huge amounts by betting massive multipliers from virtually nothing qualify as faucet abuse.

Just my opinion.

[lottoitaliano]

i don't like the pubblicity "faucet up to 12500 satoshi" and later blocked account who use faucet many times.
Write a symple rules, you can use faucet every xx minutes, later if people bet to xx2 or x1000 where is the problem ?
i have used in the past the primedice faucet more time with moltiplicator over 1000, but primedice have continue pay (and when i see a seriuos site i deposit and play)

[bsdunx]

Well, this part of the TOS was discussed here in this forum a while ago.

Reason why the account was suspended are the following faucet rolls: 198x, 9.9x, 24.75x, 99x, 202.0408x, 7.0714x, 6.6x, 5.2105x. Literally hundreds of such rolls has been made.

If you don't want users to claim the faucets too many times, why don't you add a cap on the daily claim or total claim? I think it would be a better approach than to block withdrawals as it should create less controversy. Just my 2 cents.

As per the TOS they have no obligation to honor any withdraw made from faucet, so it makes the faucet pretty pointless to even have. Even if I had not done high payout odds I would still have had my withdraw denied. They should just completely disable faucet if it is pointless(CANNOT WIN).

Wrong there. Da Dice will honor most of the withdrawals relating to the faucet. But say if you kept claiming faucet and kept on rolling high multipliers (I confirmed you did) some day you will sure hit it. And say 10 people won 10BTC from faucet do you think it is actually feasible for sites to do that? Making very huge amounts by betting massive multipliers from virtually nothing qualify as faucet abuse.

Just my opinion.

They should still just completely disable it, I was given no reason to believe my account would be closed

i don't like the pubblicity "faucet up to 12500 satoshi" and later blocked account who use faucet many times.
Write a symple rules, you can use faucet every xx minutes, later if people bet to xx2 or x1000 where is the problem ?
i have used in the past the primedice faucet more time with moltiplicator over 1000, but primedice have continue pay (and when i see a seriuos site i deposit and play)

Unless you win something like 5-10BTC off faucet.

You know the real reason faucet is there in dice sites?

like to repeat that faucet is a complimentary tool for our players to test Da Dice and/or evaluate their playing strategies (which is a standard practice in several online casinos).

There was no ban for the days of using the faucet and not winning, nor the times I won and lost, but when I win big once the account closed. They should not give me an 8000 satoshi faucet then ban me because they didn't like my payout odds I've used since I created the account in March. The odds of me going from 8000 satoshis to 10.5BTC is exactly the same regardless of the payouts involved, I know I was exceedingly lucky to have multiplied it that many times. I know the math involved in this field, I've written implementations of the algorithms used by various dice sites. The fact remains this will happen to future users if they were to get so lucky from the faucet. Claiming use of 5x<->9900x is invalid use is laughable, the service itself should not be provided if that is the case.

[euripide]

people like faucet can use another site, for example crypto-games have a good faucet option, if you use faucet, win and withdraw, faucet is stopped for 24 hours

[ndnh]

people like faucet can use another site, for example crypto-games have a good faucet option, if you use faucet, win and withdraw, faucet is stopped for 24 hours

I seriously doubt they will pay 10BTC made purely from faucet, to be honest.

Unless you win something like 5-10BTC off faucet.

You know the real reason faucet is there in dice sites?

like to repeat that faucet is a complimentary tool for our players to test Da Dice and/or evaluate their playing strategies (which is a standard practice in several online casinos).

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 the service itself should not be provided if that is the case.

The real reason for the faucet, again is:

like to repeat that faucet is a complimentary tool for our players to test Da Dice and/or evaluate their playing strategies (which is a standard practice in several online casinos).

Doesn't justify closing it.

[asuspc]

Even primedice takes actions against faucet farmers and confiscates their balances.

[euripide]

Even primedice takes actions against faucet farmers and confiscates their balances.

asuspc can you explain me please what are the faucet farmers? I have read more time this world in this thread but i don't have understand. Thanks

[asuspc]

Even primedice takes actions against faucet farmers and confiscates their balances.

asuspc can you explain me please what are the faucet farmers? I have read more time this world in this thread but i don't have understand. Thanks

its more or less relying on faucet of different bitcoin sites for your daily bread and butter... For godsake find a day job!

[Everybitbit]

Even primedice takes actions against faucet farmers and confiscates their balances.

asuspc can you explain me please what are the faucet farmers? I have read more time this world in this thread but i don't have understand. Thanks

faucet farmers? they just use faucet and never deposit.?
from what i know faucet are just for player testing the game,
and if wanna make serious money, please just make deposit..
make sense if player use faucet and win up 10BTC, and got banned.
if im a admin i would banned it before he cashed out. 

[james.lent]

Even primedice takes actions against faucet farmers and confiscates their balances.

No they dont if you legitimately roll. Only those who use bots get bans.

[ndnh]

Even primedice takes actions against faucet farmers and confiscates their balances.

No they dont if you legitimately roll. Only those who use bots get bans.

If someone gets to 1-2% of their bankroll they sure would.

Faucet isn't supposed to make people rich, lol without any risk.

Faucet farmer = anyone who doesn't use the faucet for the intended purpose and turns out to get rich on that.
Sites are liberal, but with that amounts, they can't..

[euripide]

Even primedice takes actions against faucet farmers and confiscates their balances.

No they dont if you legitimately roll. Only those who use bots get bans.

If someone gets to 1-2% of their bankroll they sure would.

Faucet isn't supposed to make people rich, lol without any risk.

Faucet farmer = anyone who doesn't use the faucet for the intended purpose and turns out to get rich on that.
Sites are liberal, but with that amounts, they can't..

ndnhc but you are the lawyer of dadice ?
Take his defense than his two accounts, which writes only to promote the jackpot 

[21coin]

Even primedice takes actions against faucet farmers and confiscates their balances.

No they dont if you legitimately roll. Only those who use bots get bans.

If someone gets to 1-2% of their bankroll they sure would.

Faucet isn't supposed to make people rich, lol without any risk.

Faucet farmer = anyone who doesn't use the faucet for the intended purpose and turns out to get rich on that.
Sites are liberal, but with that amounts, they can't..

ndnhc but you are the lawyer of dadice ?
Take his defense than his two accounts, which writes only to promote the jackpot 

Everyone is free to present their opinion, its a free-speech forum. And is something wrong ,if someone takes the sids of DD? That should mean everyone to go against it, your logic here is real bad mate.

[marioantonini]

i don't use faucet , is waste time, but don't like when site promote the faucet and later ban user for have won more. I think user of big dice site, like primedice,earn more of 10 btc to faucet in total, and i don't have see accuse of account closed.
You don't like spend more for faucet user? Simply, stop faucet option or low a faucet to 200 satoshi.

[ndnh]

ndnhc but you are the lawyer of dadice ?
Take his defense than his two accounts, which writes only to promote the jackpot 

LOL, just putting in what I think.

Admin already said the ban is as per the T&C and Anti-farming policy of Da Dice.

I think you are talking about the pr one. what is the other??

[NLNico]

So he doesn't get his money because he used high multipliers? LOL. What is exactly the limit that you are "allowed" to win with faucet? 1 BTC? 0.1 BTC? Nothing?

If he was botting (getting faucet in an automated way), multi accounting or hacking.. please tell me, so I can understand what's going on here.



ndnhc, you are not serious in defending this, right? I don't care at all about any T&C, if the T&C says they can steal all the money of their users, it doesn't make it morally right.

[ndnh]

ndnhc, you are not serious in defending this, right? I don't care at all about any T&C, if the T&C says they can steal all the money of their users, it doesn't make it morally right.

Yep, I am. What is your definition of faucet abuse?


Edit: Talk to you later.. Have to go.

[james.lent]

So he doesn't get his money because he used high multipliers? LOL. What is exactly the limit that you are "allowed" to win with faucet? 1 BTC? 0.1 BTC? Nothing?

If he was botting (getting faucet in an automated way), multi accounting or hacking.. please tell me, so I can understand what's going on here.



ndnhc, you are not serious in defending this, right? I don't care at all about any T&C, if the T&C says they can steal all the money of their users, it doesn't make it morally right.

I agree with you NLNico, what's the use of giving an increased faucet to players who wager a lot then ? To 'keep on testing' ?

I've seen players on PD reaching a few btc from the faucet and cashing it out without issues. As long as they don't 'hack' or use an automated bot to abuse it.

I don't see how claiming and betting on a high multiplier is against the TOS. lmao.

[NLNico]

ndnhc, you are not serious in defending this, right? I don't care at all about any T&C, if the T&C says they can steal all the money of their users, it doesn't make it morally right.

Yep, I am. What is your definition of faucet abuse?


Edit: Talk to you later.. Have to go.

I would say these options (depending on the details):

If he was botting (getting faucet in an automated way), multi accounting or hacking.. please tell me, so I can understand what's going on here.

If DaDice gives too much faucet money away, they should change their faucet payouts or even cancel their whole faucet program. But banning and stealing from the players who got lucky with it, is IMO very wrong.