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March 23, 2015, 04:09:14 PM
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I agree, but I'm a bit different. I reviewed the Gridseed Blade and sold it once it was no longer profitable. (Electricity is expensive here) So I sold it to someone who could still make some money off of it.

I guess if you have tons of different miners, it can become a hassle.

I have a bit of a different approach to that though, I would like to see what hardware mods can be done to improve the cooling efficiency. That's where the 3D printing fun stuff comes in.  Cool

3D printing fun stuff ?? What do you mean ??

I like designing and printing a few hardware mods that alter the flow of air throughout the miner. It's a lot of fun.

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March 23, 2015, 04:13:22 PM
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the most interesting Project since ages, please keep us posted Wink
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March 23, 2015, 05:19:17 PM
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I agree, but I'm a bit different. I reviewed the Gridseed Blade and sold it once it was no longer profitable. (Electricity is expensive here) So I sold it to someone who could still make some money off of it.

I guess if you have tons of different miners, it can become a hassle.

I have a bit of a different approach to that though, I would like to see what hardware mods can be done to improve the cooling efficiency. That's where the 3D printing fun stuff comes in.  Cool

3D printing fun stuff ?? What do you mean ??

I like designing and printing a few hardware mods that alter the flow of air throughout the miner. It's a lot of fun.

I myself print some stuff to get better air flow and more.
I will be interested to share all design. Maybe we could check to have a database of 3D stuff for bitcoin  Grin

I will pm you!

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I agree, but I'm a bit different. I reviewed the Gridseed Blade and sold it once it was no longer profitable. (Electricity is expensive here) So I sold it to someone who could still make some money off of it.

I guess if you have tons of different miners, it can become a hassle.

I have a bit of a different approach to that though, I would like to see what hardware mods can be done to improve the cooling efficiency. That's where the 3D printing fun stuff comes in.  Cool

3D printing fun stuff ?? What do you mean ??

I like designing and printing a few hardware mods that alter the flow of air throughout the miner. It's a lot of fun.

I myself print some stuff to get better air flow and more.
I will be interested to share all design. Maybe we could check to have a database of 3D stuff for bitcoin  Grin

I will pm you!

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(Yes it runs as a full DogeCoin Node, the BTC node requires a bit of cooling so I'm holding off until I get another pi for that)

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March 24, 2015, 12:50:28 AM
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I do not want to review this item. Let some one newer do a review.

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March 24, 2015, 02:25:20 AM
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The SF3301 is extremely versatile, allowing you to mine multiple currencies with one device. This means price fluctuations can be harnessed and being forced to turn off your miner is far less likely.

A condition can arise where altcoins are utilized to cover electricity costs while bitcoin is continuously and simultaneously being mined








lol...  kinda remind me with mining @ cex.io..  with my gridseeds mining on the scrypt side and my cloud service high maintenance  charges were being paid by my gridseed till id had to quit from losing funds ..  funny.... 
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March 24, 2015, 02:31:42 AM
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I could do a text + video review Smiley

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March 24, 2015, 07:20:01 AM
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This is indeed an interesting project ... hopefully someone will make some scripts to enable profit switching between scrypt/sha256 in dependence of current profitability for services like NiceHash.com ... this would really be awesome (@Sfards: make sure to include extranonce.subscribe patch).
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March 24, 2015, 07:31:00 AM
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I do not want to review this item. Let some one newer do a review.

I'd be happy to do a review with lots of info, pics, vids and statistics.
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March 24, 2015, 11:35:01 AM
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I do not want to review this item. Let some one newer do a review.

I'd be happy to do a review with lots of info, pics, vids and statistics.

I know you would do a good job.

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March 24, 2015, 01:22:49 PM
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I aslo will be more than happy to do a review if needed.  Grin

Prelude if you get one I can also help!  Wink

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March 24, 2015, 02:23:59 PM
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I do not want to review this item. Let some one newer do a review.

I'd be happy to do a review with lots of info, pics, vids and statistics.

I know you would do a good job.

Thank you Sir. Smiley

I aslo will be more than happy to do a review if needed.  Grin

Prelude if you get one I can also help!  Wink

That could be cool, since you live close we could each do a review of it. Get 2 opinions out of 1 rig. You bring the beer I'll bring the electricity!  Grin
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March 24, 2015, 02:37:52 PM
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What is important in such a device is the controlling software.

As seen with the previous gridseed hardware, if one side is significantly more efficient than the other, it will be primarily used and the other will be ignored.

This will add problems since the most ideal solution would be to run one at full speed and the other at a reduced clock rate and speed, if both sides are separate enough, than this can be solved using a well designed board with a wide range of voltage control. However, this also leads to more component cost.

The device from SFARDS needs to allow for profit monitoring that closely follows the api from an exchange as well as the local power costs, I haven't yet seen this done well yet.

Hopefully the device is very efficient in the aspect of cooling as well, space-efficiency doesn't really matter as entire warehouses are typically partially filled since the power concentration is typically the larger issue.


What this all translates to is an ideal unit, such an ideal unit would be along the following
  • Quiet
  • Low Heat dissipation requirements
  • Excellent Under clocking Potential
  • Solid and Available Controlling/Driving Software

What many asic manufacturers forget is that for the average user (the one who pays  the larges, non-bulk pricing) does not want a loud unit, nor a compact unit that has extreme power requirements and/or industrial-type cooling requirements. Such a consumer would rather spend a few $'s or bits more to pay for the extra aluminum or better design to reduce the need for massive airflow. Longevity is key for these high paying customers, you can either taylor to short-term customers like mining farms, or play the long game and become a household name.

Both styles have risks, but I have yet to see a good household product for the average consumer. I'm tired of telling people "Not to mine" I wish there was a product that I could just hand someone and they could mine in under a day.

I know it's been said a lot, whether or not one wishes to review a miner, but ideally it should be done by Dogie first and foremost, secondarily, it should be done by average and newer users (perhaps DRKMSTR maybe? - insert Zoidberg Meme), what is important is that such a device is not only reviewed by a reliable reviewer, but reviewed by newer users who can introduce it to groups of average consumers and obtain feedback from them.

There is still a large market out there that nobody has tapped yet, but most miners are too loud to be accepted, or too expensive. This market is not only the average consumer, but a consumer whom most don't realize exist. (Hey, I need to keep a bit secret, otherwise anyone could market to these guys) Such a market is at my very doorstep.

Ultimately it will come down to Sfards to determine which market they want to cater to. I'll ask you one question, who's miners do you see more often, the ones designed for large mine usage, or the ones sold to the average consumer?

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March 24, 2015, 06:51:26 PM
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I do not want to review this item. Let some one newer do a review.

I'd be happy to do a review with lots of info, pics, vids and statistics.

I know you would do a good job.

Thank you Sir. Smiley

I aslo will be more than happy to do a review if needed.  Grin

Prelude if you get one I can also help!  Wink

That could be cool, since you live close we could each do a review of it. Get 2 opinions out of 1 rig. You bring the beer I'll bring the electricity!  Grin

Yeah a tag-team from north of the border eh!  Both of these guys would do a good job. We do not get  a lot of Canadian reviewers.
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March 25, 2015, 05:02:05 AM
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Varporware ......

I hope youre not thinking of a pre-ordering more of this Chinese junk hardware.  Now if they ship from stock maybe people will bite..

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March 25, 2015, 06:05:08 AM
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I for one am not only thinking about it but actually trying to put in a farm with it...I have messaged them about putting in a farm and I am awaiting a response....
I will also be willing to do a review since I hope to have many of these...

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I for one am not only thinking about it but actually trying to put in a farm with it...I have messaged them about putting in a farm and I am awaiting a response....
I will also be willing to do a review since I hope to have many of these...


what do you all think on the 'odds' on this project? Many have tried and even the ones who were at least making a 'real' attempt on chips and/or equipment..Had real issues
with getting something in any meaningful time frame for it to matter..in the sense of just buying coin vs the 'usual' lateness of any kind of miner arriving on time be it LTC and or LTC miner

so we looking at shot of this coming to pass as 10/1 5/1 or 50/50?

(me i've no idea just wondering if any folk know the 'principals' in all this can make an educated guess on their past involvement on such projects

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March 25, 2015, 10:38:20 AM
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just wondering if any folk know the 'principals' in all this can make an educated guess on their past involvement on such projects
It's been mentioned several times before that this is basically Gridseed (see first post, even).  Gridseed have already made a successful (to the business) BTC/LTC chip.

Varporware ......
I hope youre not thinking of a pre-ordering more of this Chinese junk hardware.  Now if they ship from stock maybe people will bite..
Thankfully they haven't even mentioned pre-orders...or any much details other than announcing their tape-out.

Patience is a scarce commodity, but why not wait for more information and act on that, rather than going on the offensive (in more than one definition of that word) straight away?

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March 25, 2015, 10:50:00 AM
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This may have already been covered in this thread so apologies of so. Just a wondering what else this company has done to have an obvious office set up like in their first post. One assumes this isn't their first venture?

Also I can only imagine that front desk picture is to legitimize the company, to me it does quite the opposite. Of course there's no chance their logo is photoshopped on that first image?....

Sorry to be the skeptic but seems it's better to ask questions in the bitcoin world before being scammed

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just wondering if any folk know the 'principals' in all this can make an educated guess on their past involvement on such projects
It's been mentioned several times before that this is basically Gridseed (see first post, even).  Gridseed have already made a successful (to the business) BTC/LTC chip.

Varporware ......
I hope youre not thinking of a pre-ordering more of this Chinese junk hardware.  Now if they ship from stock maybe people will bite..
Thankfully they haven't even mentioned pre-orders...or any much details other than announcing their tape-out.

Patience is a scarce commodity, but why not wait for more information and act on that, rather than going on the offensive (in more than one definition of that word) straight away?

They are not begging for pre-order cash. They built decent miners in the past. Delivered and not much of fuss was given or angry customers heard so until they have something to sell they are still a reasonably reliable bet to deliver something. Will it be viable money wise to own that equipment? Doubtful.

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