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November 03, 2015, 05:37:23 AM
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November 03, 2015, 06:30:25 AM
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True!  How impersonal after months of nothing but some questions answered non directly.  Weird to say the least.  Seems home miners aren't welcomed here.
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November 03, 2015, 06:49:38 AM
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If the price is not high (and 1150€ is very high), i want but 3 or 4, perphaps more...  Grin

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November 03, 2015, 08:37:11 AM
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We are sorry we didn't update the information for a long time.
Due to the uncertainty of crypto currency industry, to lower down the risk, we adjusted our strategy. We suspended our retail market, and focus on our VIP customers and the data center setup by ourselves. Because retail market need a bigger team to provide marketing, sales, customer service and technical support etc. It means the higher operating costs.
We are very happy to announce that our new batch will be ready at the end of Nov. The most machines are already booked out, only left very limit amount of machines. We suspend the plan to add machines in our farm, and now open the remaining batch for sale,  the price will be $1150 for each, and only accept 100+ order. it will be ready to ship at the end of Nov.

P.S.
We already added new wafer order, now we accept the booking for chips and miners.
SF3301: qty:2000+ , $25 per chip, the greater the number of the more discount
(We already open source our miner spec, please find it from https://github.com/sfards)

SF100(or same hashrate, new model): $1050 per miner, qty from 100+

Shipping date: Jan, 2016
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November 03, 2015, 08:50:47 AM
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We are sorry we didn't update the information for a long time.
Due to the uncertainty of crypto currency industry, to lower down the risk, we adjusted our strategy. We suspended our retail market, and focus on our VIP customers and the data center setup by ourselves. Because retail market need a bigger team to provide marketing, sales, customer service and technical support etc. It means the higher operating costs.
We are very happy to announce that our new batch will be ready at the end of Nov. The most machines are already booked out, only left very limit amount of machines. We suspend the plan to add machines in our farm, and now open the remaining batch for sale,  the price will be $1150 for each, and only accept 100+ order. it will be ready to ship at the end of Nov.

P.S.
We already added new wafer order, now we accept the booking for chips and miners.
SF3301: qty:2000+ , $25 per chip, the greater the number of the more discount
(We already open source our miner spec, please find it from https://github.com/sfards)

SF100(or same hashrate, new model): $1050 per miner, qty from 100+

Shipping date: Jan, 2016
Thanks for the news Smiley

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November 03, 2015, 08:55:53 AM
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We are sorry we didn't update the information for a long time.
Due to the uncertainty of crypto currency industry, to lower down the risk, we adjusted our strategy. We suspended our retail market, and focus on our VIP customers and the data center setup by ourselves. Because retail market need a bigger team to provide marketing, sales, customer service and technical support etc. It means the higher operating costs.
We are very happy to announce that our new batch will be ready at the end of Nov. The most machines are already booked out, only left very limit amount of machines. We suspend the plan to add machines in our farm, and now open the remaining batch for sale,  the price will be $1150 for each, and only accept 100+ order. it will be ready to ship at the end of Nov.

P.S.
We already added new wafer order, now we accept the booking for chips and miners.
SF3301: qty:2000+ , $25 per chip, the greater the number of the more discount
(We already open source our miner spec, please find it from https://github.com/sfards)

SF100(or same hashrate, new model): $1050 per miner, qty from 100+

Shipping date: Jan, 2016
Thanks for the news Smiley

way too high for price and I think most folk on here would not (even if they could) buy bulk 100 of these puppies..just saying..its like a ride in space via SpaceX..nice to know I could buy a ticket and get my cute little NASA astronaut pin...but unfortunately the price is too high Smiley

 
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November 03, 2015, 09:16:01 AM
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We are sorry we didn't update the information for a long time.
Due to the uncertainty of crypto currency industry, to lower down the risk, we adjusted our strategy. We suspended our retail market, and focus on our VIP customers and the data center setup by ourselves. Because retail market need a bigger team to provide marketing, sales, customer service and technical support etc. It means the higher operating costs.
We are very happy to announce that our new batch will be ready at the end of Nov. The most machines are already booked out, only left very limit amount of machines. We suspend the plan to add machines in our farm, and now open the remaining batch for sale,  the price will be $1150 for each, and only accept 100+ order. it will be ready to ship at the end of Nov.

P.S.
We already added new wafer order, now we accept the booking for chips and miners.
SF3301: qty:2000+ , $25 per chip, the greater the number of the more discount
(We already open source our miner spec, please find it from https://github.com/sfards)

SF100(or same hashrate, new model): $1050 per miner, qty from 100+

Shipping date: Jan, 2016

Thanks for update.  I had a feeling it went to internal mining.  Did not think I would ever know if true.

Nice to see you are transparent now about mining them yourself.   Will these be new machines or are you selling machines that have been used in data center?
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November 03, 2015, 09:54:53 AM
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We are sorry we didn't update the information for a long time.
Due to the uncertainty of crypto currency industry, to lower down the risk, we adjusted our strategy. We suspended our retail market, and focus on our VIP customers and the data center setup by ourselves. Because retail market need a bigger team to provide marketing, sales, customer service and technical support etc. It means the higher operating costs.
We are very happy to announce that our new batch will be ready at the end of Nov. The most machines are already booked out, only left very limit amount of machines. We suspend the plan to add machines in our farm, and now open the remaining batch for sale,  the price will be $1150 for each, and only accept 100+ order. it will be ready to ship at the end of Nov.

P.S.
We already added new wafer order, now we accept the booking for chips and miners.
SF3301: qty:2000+ , $25 per chip, the greater the number of the more discount
(We already open source our miner spec, please find it from https://github.com/sfards)

SF100(or same hashrate, new model): $1050 per miner, qty from 100+

Shipping date: Jan, 2016

Thanks for update.  I had a feeling it went to internal mining.  Did not think I would ever know if true.

Nice to see you are transparent now about mining them yourself.   Will these be new machines or are you selling machines that have been used in data center?

We will ship the truly new machines. If we will sell used machines, we will state clearly. Smiley
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November 03, 2015, 10:52:28 AM
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SF100(or same hashrate, new model): $1050 per miner, qty from 100+
Shipping date: Jan, 2016

Boy, it's so hard to evaluate this miner - what makes it cool (the dual mining aspect), also makes hard to compare.  The efficiency of the SHA256 side is slightly better than an S5, so based on it's hash rate (assuming you pay $400 for it) you're looking at a SHA256 value of $588... The efficiency of the scrypt side is far more interesting, since it's close to a Titan, and pretty much all the scrypt gear sells for ~$8/MH, so about $448.  Combine those, and you get $1036 - pretty close to their number.  

I've wanted to pick one up just to play with and see what it's like and whether it was worth picking up a bunch, but the min quantity 100 is a deal killer - and if that's their quantity 100 pricing, forget it.  It's a shame, apart from the pricing it looks like a cool piece of kit - but really, when it comes to mining, very little matters more than pricing.  Wink
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November 03, 2015, 04:50:03 PM
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We are sorry we didn't update the information for a long time.
Due to the uncertainty of crypto currency industry, to lower down the risk, we adjusted our strategy. We suspended our retail market, and focus on our VIP customers and the data center setup by ourselves. Because retail market need a bigger team to provide marketing, sales, customer service and technical support etc. It means the higher operating costs.
We are very happy to announce that our new batch will be ready at the end of Nov. The most machines are already booked out, only left very limit amount of machines. We suspend the plan to add machines in our farm, and now open the remaining batch for sale,  the price will be $1150 for each, and only accept 100+ order. it will be ready to ship at the end of Nov.

P.S.
We already added new wafer order, now we accept the booking for chips and miners.
SF3301: qty:2000+ , $25 per chip, the greater the number of the more discount
(We already open source our miner spec, please find it from https://github.com/sfards)

SF100(or same hashrate, new model): $1050 per miner, qty from 100+

Shipping date: Jan, 2016
Chips are what I am excited for 25$ a chip, lets get someone on making a custom miner stat!

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November 03, 2015, 06:19:05 PM
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Dual miner Grin
I am wandareing what the hell of buggy fork will be able to efficiently mine on two !SEPARATE! Pools Grin ltc/btc simultaneously ...
And I liked the part when BTC price move up all of us get exited and order and order and finaly all of us home miners get fucked...
The winers are China brothres for sure selling long premined  new machines Grin

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The real problem, just like they ran into on the GC3355, is that the SHA256 side is not all that impressive, and will be unprofitable far too soon to be able to RoI the machine - and the Scrypt side is reliant on a coin that seems to be losing any chance at staying power, making it really hard to figure if you will even RoI the scrypt side or not.

 The whole "dual miner" concept should never have been revisited, you end up with a machine that's halfway obsolescent far too soon for way too high a premium.


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November 04, 2015, 12:53:39 AM
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The real problem, just like they ran into on the GC3355, is that the SHA256 side is not all that impressive, and will be unprofitable far too soon to be able to RoI the machine - and the Scrypt side is reliant on a coin that seems to be losing any chance at staying power, making it really hard to figure if you will even RoI the scrypt side or not.

 The whole "dual miner" concept should never have been revisited, you end up with a machine that's halfway obsolescent far too soon for way too high a premium.



Agreed.  The thing is the whole "dual miner" feature is something that will mainly interest hobby miners.  The 1050$ price point isn't half bad but I'm not all that worried about great efficiency or fast RoI.  I just want a space heater for the winter and I just don't feel right with such a low energy bill and no fans whirring 24/7.  I'm about to throw my 7950s back in the old milk crates and fire those about again if I don't get one of these or an S7.  So quiet and cold around here with no mining.  Sad

So yeah, it seems like they are focusing on the wrong audience.  I maybe interested in a group buy or if anyone creates a decent stick miner from the chips though.
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November 04, 2015, 01:43:03 AM
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Dual miner Grin
I am wandareing what the hell of buggy fork will be able to efficiently mine on two !SEPARATE! Pools Grin ltc/btc simultaneously ...
And I liked the part when BTC price move up all of us get exited and order and order and finaly all of us home miners get fucked...
The winers are China brothres for sure selling long premined  new machines Grin

Hi, it can run separatelly pools, you need to put the pools on each side separatelly  Wink

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November 04, 2015, 01:43:57 AM
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We are sorry we didn't update the information for a long time.
Due to the uncertainty of crypto currency industry, to lower down the risk, we adjusted our strategy. We suspended our retail market, and focus on our VIP customers and the data center setup by ourselves. Because retail market need a bigger team to provide marketing, sales, customer service and technical support etc. It means the higher operating costs.
We are very happy to announce that our new batch will be ready at the end of Nov. The most machines are already booked out, only left very limit amount of machines. We suspend the plan to add machines in our farm, and now open the remaining batch for sale,  the price will be $1150 for each, and only accept 100+ order. it will be ready to ship at the end of Nov.

P.S.
We already added new wafer order, now we accept the booking for chips and miners.
SF3301: qty:2000+ , $25 per chip, the greater the number of the more discount
(We already open source our miner spec, please find it from https://github.com/sfards)

SF100(or same hashrate, new model): $1050 per miner, qty from 100+

Shipping date: Jan, 2016
Chips are what I am excited for 25$ a chip, lets get someone on making a custom miner stat!

I'm very interested on that!!

The scrypt eficiency is very good!!

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November 04, 2015, 01:52:47 AM
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Dual miner Grin
I am wandareing what the hell of buggy fork will be able to efficiently mine on two !SEPARATE! Pools Grin ltc/btc simultaneously ...
And I liked the part when BTC price move up all of us get exited and order and order and finaly all of us home miners get fucked...
The winers are China brothres for sure selling long premined  new machines Grin

Hi, it can run separatelly pools, you need to put the pools on each side separatelly  Wink

Yes from what I've read you can set different pools as it's needed.  One will be a BTC pool, and one a LTC pool.

Hopefully we hear more soon.  It could be interesting.
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Dual miner Grin
I am wandareing what the hell of buggy fork will be able to efficiently mine on two !SEPARATE! Pools Grin ltc/btc simultaneously ...
And I liked the part when BTC price move up all of us get exited and order and order and finaly all of us home miners get fucked...
The winers are China brothres for sure selling long premined  new machines Grin

Hi, it can run separatelly pools, you need to put the pools on each side separatelly  Wink

Yes from what I've read you can set different pools as it's needed.  One will be a BTC pool, and one a LTC pool.

Hopefully we hear more soon.  It could be interesting.

I love this miner, i can consider to enter into a group buy...  Grin

BTW it is controlled by a raspberry pi using USB (nice detail)

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Dual miner Grin
I am wandareing what the hell of buggy fork will be able to efficiently mine on two !SEPARATE! Pools Grin ltc/btc simultaneously ...
And I liked the part when BTC price move up all of us get exited and order and order and finaly all of us home miners get fucked...
The winers are China brothres for sure selling long premined  new machines Grin

Hi, it can run separatelly pools, you need to put the pools on each side separatelly  Wink

Yes from what I've read you can set different pools as it's needed.  One will be a BTC pool, and one a LTC pool.

Hopefully we hear more soon.  It could be interesting.

I love this miner, i can consider to enter into a group buy...  Grin

BTW it is controlled by a raspberry pi using USB (nice detail)
Still seems a bit pricey but thankfully with the BTC rise could only end up being a few coins when it releases.

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November 04, 2015, 05:01:10 AM
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$1050...eh, I'd consider it just for the hell of it.  100 though?  Not a chance.

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November 04, 2015, 06:03:09 AM
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We are sorry we didn't update the information for a long time.
Due to the uncertainty of crypto currency industry, to lower down the risk, we adjusted our strategy. We suspended our retail market, and focus on our VIP customers and the data center setup by ourselves. Because retail market need a bigger team to provide marketing, sales, customer service and technical support etc. It means the higher operating costs.
We are very happy to announce that our new batch will be ready at the end of Nov. The most machines are already booked out, only left very limit amount of machines. We suspend the plan to add machines in our farm, and now open the remaining batch for sale,  the price will be $1150 for each, and only accept 100+ order. it will be ready to ship at the end of Nov.

P.S.
We already added new wafer order, now we accept the booking for chips and miners.
SF3301: qty:2000+ , $25 per chip, the greater the number of the more discount
(We already open source our miner spec, please find it from https://github.com/sfards)

SF100(or same hashrate, new model): $1050 per miner, qty from 100+

Shipping date: Jan, 2016

Thanks for update.  I had a feeling it went to internal mining.  Did not think I would ever know if true.

Nice to see you are transparent now about mining them yourself.   Will these be new machines or are you selling machines that have been used in data center?

We will ship the truly new machines. If we will sell used machines, we will state clearly. Smiley


Heh as a PROMO idea you should probably from that aspect sell some units on here via bitcointalk from all the promo we've done for your home miner product (yet can't get in 100 lot sizes). Just saying ..it would be a small pain in the butt for big rewards word of mouth wise imho....(then again I'm just rambling to myself now)


 
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