ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It

[Thujone]

Has anyone seen their ASICMINER-PT divs come in yet?

No.  BTC TC is working on a software glitch with dividend payment.

Hadn't seem any news on the full shares so I thought I would ask. I hoped that was what was going on, no need to deal with even more double divs. Hopefully everyone is being honorable and leaving their second div in their wallet.

[daemondazz]

I'd suggest anyone who hasn't, and refuses to return the double div, be blacklisted from btct.co.

[puck2]

Will the new bitcoin client cause a problem for ASICMINER by limiting dust transactions or can ASICMINER now relay their own Satoshi size transactions?

[daemondazz]

or can ASICMINER now relay their own Satoshi size transactions?

^ this

[Luke-Jr]

Will the new bitcoin client cause a problem for ASICMINER by limiting dust transactions or can ASICMINER now relay their own Satoshi size transactions?

Well, they can, but they should really stop spamming the blockchain regardless :/

[freedomno1]

Has anyone seen their ASICMINER-PT divs come in yet?

Got mine

[fiaskow]

Has anyone seen their ASICMINER-PT divs come in yet?

Got mine

Got mine too.

[aahzmundus]

Will the new bitcoin client cause a problem for ASICMINER by limiting dust transactions or can ASICMINER now relay their own Satoshi size transactions?

Well, they can, but they should really stop spamming the blockchain regardless :/

Spamming the blockchain?  Asicminer do it once a week, in a big transaction... go blame SDice for spam.  Asicminers usage of satoshies/dust at least has real utility.

[Lohoris]

I'd suggest anyone who hasn't, and refuses to return the double div, be blacklisted from btct.co.

This is totally nonsense.
One of the biggest piles of nonsense I've ever witnessed.

The whole point of "returning the funds" is that you return them at your own will, as opposite to forcing you to return them.
So you are suggesting that you do "at your own will OR ELSE you get banned"... lol I'm astonished on how utterly broken this "suggestion" is.

I mean, I know this problem has been solved now, but noticing such an enormous amount of broken-ness in just a single post amazed me, I couldn't refrain from replying.

[physalis]

Will the new bitcoin client cause a problem for ASICMINER by limiting dust transactions or can ASICMINER now relay their own Satoshi size transactions?

Well, they can, but they should really stop spamming the blockchain regardless :/

Spamming the blockchain?  Asicminer do it once a week, in a big transaction... go blame SDice for spam.  Asicminers usage of satoshies/dust at least has real utility.

It's a matter of principle, and regardless of how often it happens, it's spam. The blockchain isn't supposed to transmit arbitrary data like "you own that many shares" or "it's xx degrees here in florida".

[ThickAsThieves]

Will the new bitcoin client cause a problem for ASICMINER by limiting dust transactions or can ASICMINER now relay their own Satoshi size transactions?

Well, they can, but they should really stop spamming the blockchain regardless :/

Spamming the blockchain?  Asicminer do it once a week, in a big transaction... go blame SDice for spam.  Asicminers usage of satoshies/dust at least has real utility.

It's a matter of principle, and regardless of how often it happens, it's spam. The blockchain isn't supposed to transmit arbitrary data like "you own that many shares" or "it's xx degrees here in florida".

I'd argue the blockchain is supposed to do whatever people can do with it. Anything unwanted is a design flaw, not a user flaw.

[Lohoris]

I'd argue the blockchain is supposed to do whatever people can do with it. Anything unwanted is a design flaw, not a user flaw.

+1

if this kind of transaction bothers anyone, he should press for mandatory fees or something like that, but as long as the protocol allows it, then you should blame the protocol.

[bitfair]

Looking forward to today's update, looks like deployment has progressed the last week and sales are strong.

Would also be interested in hearing where in the process the 200TH order is, and how far the planning for next-gen chips has progressed.

[muyuu]

I'd argue the blockchain is supposed to do whatever people can do with it. Anything unwanted is a design flaw, not a user flaw.

+1

if this kind of transaction bothers anyone, he should press for mandatory fees or something like that, but as long as the protocol allows it, then you should blame the protocol.

The protocol says that miners decide which transactions go in and which don't.

Vote by mining in a pool with a policy you agree with. This is why I mine with Eligius.

This is probably not a sufficient solution in all cases, but thinking that any transaction allowed by a protocol has to happen is also untrue.

[rdponticelli]

Will the new bitcoin client cause a problem for ASICMINER by limiting dust transactions or can ASICMINER now relay their own Satoshi size transactions?

Well, they can, but they should really stop spamming the blockchain regardless :/

Spamming the blockchain?  Asicminer do it once a week, in a big transaction... go blame SDice for spam.  Asicminers usage of satoshies/dust at least has real utility.

It's a matter of principle, and regardless of how often it happens, it's spam. The blockchain isn't supposed to transmit arbitrary data like "you own that many shares" or "it's xx degrees here in florida".

And we can add that this particular transaction doesn't add any significant information. IMHO it would be way better maintaining a public spreadsheet where shareholders can verify theirs holdings some time before the dividends, in case they have to claim something. But this process of marking holding, followed immediately by dividends, is way, way pointless and harmful...

[daemondazz]

I'd suggest anyone who hasn't, and refuses to return the double div, be blacklisted from btct.co.

This is totally nonsense.
One of the biggest piles of nonsense I've ever witnessed.

The whole point of "returning the funds" is that you return them at your own will, as opposite to forcing you to return them.
So you are suggesting that you do "at your own will OR ELSE you get banned"... lol I'm astonished on how utterly broken this "suggestion" is.

I mean, I know this problem has been solved now, but noticing such an enormous amount of broken-ness in just a single post amazed me, I couldn't refrain from replying.

So you're the kind of person that if a store undercharges you (by giving you too much change back) you don't be honest and correct the mistake? If I was the store owner and noticed that you had been undercharged and then asked you to pay the difference and you refused, you don't think I'd have the right to ban you from the store, since what you are essentially doing is stealing?

[Factory]

I'd argue the blockchain is supposed to do whatever people can do with it. Anything unwanted is a design flaw, not a user flaw.

This sums it up quite well.

[Lohoris]

So you're the kind of person that if a store undercharges you (by giving you too much change back) you don't be honest and correct the mistake? If I was the store owner and noticed that you had been undercharged and then asked you to pay the difference and you refused, you don't think I'd have the right to ban you from the store, since what you are essentially doing is stealing?

Of course not, I already said I was willing to return the money.

I am only stating that "return it or I ban you" is a logic nonsense, because it is perfectly equivalent to a forced refund, so you should have said "do a forced refund" instead.

Either it is voluntary or it is forced.

Your suggestion was to make it appear voluntary but be forced in practice, and that is VERY BAD™.

Please bear in mind I don't think you did that on purpose, likely you didn't notice your mistake, and I'm so anal I wanted to point it out (to prevent anyone, in future, from thinking it was a good suggestion).
Please take no offence, and sorry if my tone was rude, I did't mean to.


ps: again, I'm not saying that a forced refund is bad (though many did say it, and with many good reasons), I'm saying that if you do so, it must be crystal clear what is happening, as opposite to pretending it is something else.

[Rant2112]

Asicminers usage of satoshies/dust at least has real utility.

What is the utility?  (honest question)

[Factory]

Asicminers usage of satoshies/dust at least has real utility.

What is the utility?  (honest question)

Returning capital to shareholders so that they may continue to support and grow the bitcoin-based economy.