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Author Topic: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market =Embrace The Dark=  (Read 826669 times)
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April 16, 2015, 10:44:29 PM
Last edit: April 17, 2015, 12:35:19 AM by coinspredator
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500+ thread pages in a month dam....  Shocked

We were supposed to be more than 600 pages right now, but the moderators have been deleted many things here.  Smiley
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April 16, 2015, 10:51:12 PM
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ICM finally became a Junior Member, haha lol. I hope he's coding right now.. Wink

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April 16, 2015, 10:58:47 PM
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I did some calculations, the way I see it, current annual ROI of setting a node is around 400%, that's insane, and it will correct by having more and more nodes (I'm seeing 4 or 5 new nodes per day), but at the same time that means less and less coins in the market.

If investment proofs to be safe after some weeks (safe as crypto-safe), ROI of 50-100% could be the equilibrium point, that means around 800 nodes, which leaves around 200k coins in the market. With 200k in the market, then 0.005-0.01 per coin is realistic, which makes the daily production of 1440 new coins a 7-14btc for the market to absorb per day, which is more than doable.

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April 16, 2015, 11:14:12 PM
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clayton tell you sheep fallowers to buy , i am ready to take off

lol deff wouldn't call most of the members "sheep"  (there is over 4000 of them after all)  we've been talking about crave a bunch on CCC, seems to be lots of interest as well as doubt which is to be expected with such a new coin with so much promise. I lost a lot of btc NOT listening to some of the advice on that page and it's by far the best crypto based page I've found on FB. no spam and Clayton always mentions the risks he see's when talking about a coin, lots of knowledgeable people sharing their thoughts on crypto's and diff projects.

CCC actually has an advertising asset on HZ's platform that just become available (fairly cheap with the price of HZ right now) would be a good idea to buy a few days for when we have a major announcement for CRAVE... each day gets a 24hr pinned post at the top of the page for everyone to see and some extras I think even a review by Mr Clayton himself.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1022989.0;topicseen


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April 16, 2015, 11:17:20 PM
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clayton tell you sheep fallowers to buy , i am ready to take off

lol deff wouldn't call most of the members "sheep"  (there is over 4000 of them after all)  we've been talking about crave a bunch on CCC, seems to be lots of interest as well as doubt which is to be expected with such a new coin with so much promise. I lost a lot of btc NOT listening to some of the advice on that page and it's by far the best crypto based page I've found on FB. no spam and Clayton always mentions the risks he see's when talking about a coin, lots of knowledgeable people sharing their thoughts on crypto's and diff projects.

CCC actually has an advertising asset on HZ's platform that just become available (fairly cheap with the price of HZ right now) would be a good idea to buy a few days for when we have a major announcement for CRAVE... each day gets a 24hr pinned post at the top of the page for everyone to see and some extras I think even a review by Mr Clayton himself.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1022989.0;topicseen



To be clear I suggested CRAVE as a high risk new coin at 30k and 115k, and I still like it, even if the FUD makes me sell out now and then. People are not "sheep" though for buying low, we have a great community of devs and very smart traders.

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April 16, 2015, 11:17:33 PM
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I did some calculations, the way I see it, current annual ROI of setting a node is around 400%, that's insane, and it will correct by having more and more nodes (I'm seeing 4 or 5 new nodes per day), but at the same time that means less and less coins in the market.

If investment proofs to be safe after some weeks (safe as crypto-safe), ROI of 50-100% could be the equilibrium point, that means around 800 nodes, which leaves around 200k coins in the market. With 200k in the market, then 0.005-0.01 per coin is realistic, which makes the daily production of 1440 new coins a 7-14btc for the market to absorb per day, which is more than doable.

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yup the dev seems to have created a very well thought out ecosystem for CRAVE... even without the markets running yet, let alone when the first one goes up securing 50000 coins off the market.

if anything we might have a deflation problem  Cool hehe and thats a good "problem" to have  Cool

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April 16, 2015, 11:21:05 PM
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I did some calculations, the way I see it, current annual ROI of setting a node is around 400%, that's insane, and it will correct by having more and more nodes (I'm seeing 4 or 5 new nodes per day), but at the same time that means less and less coins in the market.

If investment proofs to be safe after some weeks (safe as crypto-safe), ROI of 50-100% could be the equilibrium point, that means around 800 nodes, which leaves around 200k coins in the market. With 200k in the market, then 0.005-0.01 per coin is realistic, which makes the daily production of 1440 new coins a 7-14btc for the market to absorb per day, which is more than doable.

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April 16, 2015, 11:28:51 PM
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In the "Adrenaline Network" menu, what does the 'rank' column represent?
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April 16, 2015, 11:52:36 PM
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someone call this comunity has strong supporter, but i see so many weak in here, because sdc dumper still out there
no matter how good this coin, whne market release,i think will be the same ,go higher & sdc dumper will dump again

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April 17, 2015, 12:07:15 AM
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someone call this comunity has strong supporter, but i see so many weak in here, because sdc dumper still out there
no matter how good this coin, whne market release,i think will be the same ,go higher & sdc dumper will dump again

I half think the dumper is just accumulating more coins, by starting the dump then scooping up cheaper from the people that continue to dump.

or they'll run out of CRAVE to dump on us eventually and the true climb can begin

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April 17, 2015, 12:36:23 AM
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In the "Adrenaline Network" menu, what does the 'rank' column represent?

Still wondering myself  Huh

On wallet version 1.4.1 in the Adrenaline section, what does the rank represent on the "Adrenaline Network" tab?

bump. If this was answered I missed it.

Possibly the amount of times it is the "winner"? I would think looking at the top few and the block explorer might actually prove/disprove this theory.
It does not appear to be the amount of time online, so that was my only guess.

EDIT: Although I just saw one ranked -1 so I dunno.
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April 17, 2015, 01:20:02 AM
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guys getting this error on raspberry pi, while compiling any advise ?

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Getting this when trying to compile daemon with latest secp256k1 installed:  

Code:
key.cpp:729:106: error: cannot convert ‘unsigned char*’ to ‘const secp256k1_context_t* {aka const secp256k1_context_struct*}’ for argument ‘1’ to ‘int secp256k1_ec_pubkey_tweak_add(const secp256k1_context_t*, unsigned char*, int, const unsigned char*)’
     bool ret = secp256k1_ec_pubkey_tweak_add((unsigned char*)pubkeyChild.begin(), pubkeyChild.size(), out);
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make: *** [obj/key.o] Error 1

I'm assuming because as was mentioned,  crave daemon does not currently support latest secp256k1 ?

Had to do this to get it to actually reset/rollback and successfully compile:
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git clone https://github.com/bitcoin/secp256k1
cd secp256k1
git reset a0d3b8
git add .
git reset --hard
./autogen.sh
./configure
make
sudo make install
cd ..
sudo ldconfig

cd crave/src
make -f makefile.unix USE_UPNP=
strip craved

tvm wil test and confirm  Smiley

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Thanks,

I'm now having trouble installing secp256k1

~/secp256k1 $ ./autogen.sh
./autogen.sh: 3: ./autogen.sh: autoreconf: not found

Any help is appreciated / thanks !
first do this:
sudo apt-get install automake
sudo apt-get install build-essential libtool
then:
./autogen.sh


guys i dont know what im doing wrong maybe this wallet is not good for my pi so i compiled it on VPS after following above instructions but getting error again after 40-45 mins duration.


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April 17, 2015, 01:21:56 AM
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Question : Why do we have only a 30 day period to make blur outta crave?

Because blur will be 100x more expensive than crave.  Grin
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April 17, 2015, 01:43:44 AM
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Question : Why do we have only a 30 day period to make blur outta crave?

Because blur will be 100x more expensive than crave.  Grin
could you tell us a little more about blur???How  much expensive and where I can go to  see how much blur I got .When blur will bw active ??When market will start??
Ok let say that I like to burn 1000 crave to blur.And what Huh Do I'll get some address and private key?? IMO Is not enough info about blur and people don't know what will be next after they'll burn crave for blur.

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April 17, 2015, 01:45:14 AM
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please continue discussions on how much SDC sucks here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1026974.0
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April 17, 2015, 01:50:25 AM
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can someone please explain or link me to an explanation how that crave to blur swap will work? Thanks
Yeah...I wish know also a little more about blur.So far I know that blur is something that can be worth something in future and so far is not existing.Something like gold resource company .They can start digg but they don't know if they'll find gold .But you have to buy stock of this company  to share they profit if they'll reach gold or loose your money if they don't

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April 17, 2015, 02:23:28 AM
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can someone please explain or link me to an explanation how that crave to blur swap will work? Thanks
Yeah...I wish know also a little more about blur.So far I know that blur is something that can be worth something in future and so far is not existing.Something like gold resource company .They can start digg but they don't know if they'll find gold .But you have to buy stock of this company  to share they profit if they'll reach gold or loose your money if they don't

Okay think of crave as a transport layer/infrastructure network for distributed market; blur will be used as market asset akin to BTC colored coin to use for vendor transfers, purchase, betting, contracts etc.
You can 'burn' crave by sending it to an address which will render it unspendable just like burning BTC for counterparty XCP.  Although it can't be used a this time the blur asset will be credited to the wallet key the crave was originally burned from. Blur can be seen with darkpoold/bootle UI but it's still in coding Smiley
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April 17, 2015, 02:33:32 AM
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can someone please explain or link me to an explanation how that crave to blur swap will work? Thanks
Yeah...I wish know also a little more about blur.So far I know that blur is something that can be worth something in future and so far is not existing.Something like gold resource company .They can start digg but they don't know if they'll find gold .But you have to buy stock of this company  to share they profit if they'll reach gold or loose your money if they don't

Okay think of crave as a transport layer/infrastructure network for distributed market; blur will be used as market asset akin to BTC colored coin to use for vendor transfers, purchase, betting, contracts etc.
You can 'burn' crave by sending it to an address which will render it unspendable just like burning BTC for counterparty XCP.  Although it can't be used a this time the blur asset will be credited to the wallet key the crave was originally burned from. Blur can be seen with darkpoold/bootle UI but it's still in coding Smiley
Thank you .Now I can see blue sky between cloud

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April 17, 2015, 02:38:31 AM
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Looks like someone is trying to create panic sell... Now we have an answer why fud started again.

you bagholders always have a word or two to says
you bagholders complaints yesterday i posts and this is the reason it going up and now i posts again and now you complaint i creating panic

For the devils sake ... please learn english .

Can you learn and fluently speak german russian or italian?? No ..So.. be nice to international investors who are working hard for this coin and your money.

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April 17, 2015, 02:42:28 AM
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clayton tell you sheep fallowers to buy , i am ready to take off

lol deff wouldn't call most of the members "sheep"  (there is over 4000 of them after all)  we've been talking about crave a bunch on CCC, seems to be lots of interest as well as doubt which is to be expected with such a new coin with so much promise. I lost a lot of btc NOT listening to some of the advice on that page and it's by far the best crypto based page I've found on FB. no spam and Clayton always mentions the risks he see's when talking about a coin, lots of knowledgeable people sharing their thoughts on crypto's and diff projects.

CCC actually has an advertising asset on HZ's platform that just become available (fairly cheap with the price of HZ right now) would be a good idea to buy a few days for when we have a major announcement for CRAVE... each day gets a 24hr pinned post at the top of the page for everyone to see and some extras I think even a review by Mr Clayton himself.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1022989.0;topicseen



To be clear I suggested CRAVE as a high risk new coin at 30k and 115k, and I still like it, even if the FUD makes me sell out now and then. People are not "sheep" though for buying low, we have a great community of devs and very smart traders.
Masternode again stop working .Last payment  seen 24 hours and 13 min.Ago...Wallet also showing  address  I've never seen before  .I found that at Blockchain explorrer .Looks like wallet have hidden address from download

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