Update
Some details of BE300:
Process: tsmc 28nm hpc
Package: fclga (5mm x 5mm)
Normal Mode:
0.7v vdd
6gh/s per chip
8gh/s-12gh/s per chip for mass production
0.343w/g on chip
~0.3w/g on chip for mass production
Low Power Mode:
0.55v vdd
4.5gh/s per chip
6gh/s-9gh/s per chip for mass production
0.225w/g on chip
~0.2w/g on chip for mass production
The schedule of BE300 producing: First batch production will be done next Feb.
Are there folks that happen to know more about this elaborate on this further? Other than just being a little more efficient than BE200, it doesn't seem like that great of an improvement for a die shrink (40nm -> 28nm). Please excuse my ignorance, I'm more of a biochemist and not familiar with the specifics of chip R&D. |
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This is reassuring news to me. Especially that Rockxie and Jutarul both increased holdings and the board is still solid.
This year has been hard for me, I need something to hold onto for reassurance. *sigh*
Thanks @dhenson
This exactly. Many who still remain (directly or indirectly) are tied to the end, for better or worse. |
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so how far along did the speculation get that this datatank will contain AM chips belonging to AM?
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From DataTank on Twitter:  Shopped or a real 1PH container being loaded? Was it ever confirmed who's chips they are using... Other Information:
• Production for DataTank No. 1 has already commenced and AM BE200 hardware is the hardware of choice for initial deployment. We are currently evaluating if Scrypt hardware will be available in time for at least a partial deployment to use some spare capacity.
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Even the Wall Street Journal is considering this rumor: http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/09/19/bitbeat-more-pain-for-bitcoin-prices-are-chinese-miners-to-blame/Excerpt: " Still, it is the China theory– and it is only a theory — that is most intriguing, in part because it explains a striking anomaly in the bitcoin system: That the summer-long price fall has coincided with an explosion in bitcoin mining. Over the same three-month period in which the price dropped from above $600 to below $400, there has been a doubling in the “hashrate,” a measure of the network-wide computational power with which bitcoin miners compete to solve a mathematical puzzle and win the right to a fresh issuance of 25 new coins at 10-minute intervals. There’s an arms race going on in bitcoin mining. But that begs the question: why would anyone rush to buy mining rigs and pay for ever-greater electricity consumption when both the proportional share and value of the bitcoins you can earn are plummeting?" |
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Thanks for the post Jutarul (and zefir).
When you say "gen4 is coming along according to schedule", can you shed any light regarding what that schedule is? What phase is the design of gen4 chips in? When is "tape out" expected? When are the first samples expected to be received by AM for testing?
As long as there is no clear guidance on information policy, I have to defer to FC in answering those questions. That said - I don't have the data you're asking for ( other than the tape out date). Is that info allowed for public release? |
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Despite of all the improvements they are trying to bring on the iPhone 6. I'd say the most important thing isn't a bigger screen infact we need a better battery which can last longer.
I don't have to pay more for a portable charger that I have to carry every where I go.
The battery life has been debated for a long time but it's likely the improvements were sacrificed for the larger screen (which the market demanded more of). Curious how many folks with Galaxy Notes will switch over to 6/6+, screen size was what drew many to the Galaxy Note. The Watch announcement was lackluster but as with all new "product categories," it's best to wait a generation or two before getting one. |
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I'll be running the official (yes official) ASICMiner Tube thread, it will be up tomorrow.
Miner Tested, Friedcat Approved? |
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He just dropped a 16k bitcoin address on the speculation thread, insinuating that it is the dividend payout address (which would be about .04btc / share) without any explanation.
Either it's someone playing a sick joke, or someone with insider information.
A franchisee could possibly have this information by following the flow of their payment to AM and would have the incentive to hide their identity by creating a new account.
I'm hoping this is legit... a .04 btc/share dividend would be amazing.
I do not believe it is a sick joke (not insider info either imo), due to the following reasons: 1) If you look carefully at a few of the transactions from that address, it has received BTC from (directly or indirectly) from F2Pool. F2Pool is also known as Discus Fish, which is located in China (citation needed) and is rumored to be one of the few pools where AM is mining. Check the wallet link and click "Related Tags" 2) Looking at F2Pool/Discus Fish's mining user list, the largest miner in their pool (via 20 min avg) appears to only have started to receive payments from only several days ago. This is similar to age of the mentioned wallet address as it too is also a very new address of being a few days old. 3) The mentioned address is has also sent & received BTC from a wallet address rumored to have received BTC from AM sales. Again, there have been no references other than the quote below (and I've spent quite a bit of time looking too) - Now these three examples can only be considered speculation at best (perhaps even grasping at straws) but it does make one wonder... |
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I mis-read Frank's post and thought he had personal knowledge that the btcguild hashrate was hashratio.
I was referring to the btcguild hash rate being attributed to AM.
It happens but yes, the user 67117 is (or should be) AM. That was their account on BTCGuild before they went solo, way back when. |
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That's HashRatio, one of AM's largest chip buyers.
Thanks for the info Franktank. Can I ask how you know that? Also, do you know anything about how much AM hardware they have or will receive? And finally, which pool (if any) or mining address they mine for? I don't imagine there are too many places in the world that have access to abundant electricity, and building codes that make it possible for you to plop down a new warehouse every two weeks. This means these guys are benefiting from some huge advantages in this space, making it really hard for competing operations to keep up with. I think back to all the articles I've read about so and so planning on building a mining datacenter, that will be fully operational within X months. Everyone 'oohing' and 'aahing' at their magnificence, while in the same span of time, a dozen Chinese guys built 10 of them somewhere without a peep. I'm not certain but I posted this back in July: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg7875245#msg7875245 |
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That's HashRatio, one of AM's largest chip buyers. |
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how efficient is AM's chips compare to competitors? seem a lot of grumbling about the efficiency.
the already produced equipment is sunk cost. efficiency ensure positive cash flow (BTC in USD minus electricity price) - esp with BTC down quite a bit from the 650 level.
Not very efficient at all... 800GH tubes using 930 watts. Bitmain and SP-Tech use well under 1 watt per GH. Very true, their hardware (both 28nm, I believe?) are more efficient than AM's current offerings; there's no doubt about that. However, the S3 isn't available for shipping until Sept 20th and SP30/31 are in September "Batch 2." AM hardware can be obtained within a week and will have roughly a 2-3 week head start. |
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Yeah, the link is pointing back to that very same reddit post. Mistake probably?
Does it not link to the hardware sales thread? The second to the last line? Edit: I've edited it so the link is below the "Round 2 Sales" Edit 2: The reason why it's not coming up because it's been "Removal_Rover"-ed, meaning I've posted about AM there multiple times and that isn't allowed (and promptly removed). If AM wants to advertise on Reddit, they'd have to use Reddit's ad system ( http://www.reddit.com/advertising) |
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A bit of a shameless plug but I would ask those who have a Reddit account to upvote this post: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2emwsg/asicminer_hardware_sales_round_2_inhand_hardware/Everyone here is welcome to do the same thing and encouraged to post on other social media platforms for a larger AM awareness. More Awareness -> More Interested Parties -> Larger Sales Volume -> Better for Shareholders Now is the time to let every other subforum on Bitcointalk know (preferably in a non-annoying way) that AM has the hardware to ship if they're interested. |
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Friedcat Hardware Sales Update (cross-post): Round 2 SalesFull 10-devices set including: 40 Hashing Units 40 Thermal Pads 3 Ethernet Controllers (1 for redundancy. One controller can in principle drive as many as 8 full devices) 10 Cooling Kits 10 Fans Free Assembling 9.9 BTC/set Hashing Unit: 0.210 BTC/piece for <400 pieces MOQ at 40 pieces. (Each unit hashes at 200-215GH/s in typical clock) Thermal Pad: 0.007 BTC/piece. MOQ at 40 pieces. Ethernet Controller: 0.069 BTC/piece. MOQ at 2 pieces. Cooling Kit: 0.069 BTC/set. MOQ at 10 sets. Fan: 0.014 BTC/piece. MOQ at 10 pieces. For orders equal to or larger than 10 full sets (100 devices) or 400 pieces of hashing units, please contact Phasebird or sale@bitquan.com. The price depends on order size. Shipping Dates are from 27th August to 6th September. That's about 8 TH/s (minimum) for about $5100 or roughly $0.64/GH for in-stock hardware |
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The Eve of DividendsTM
Source or just speculation? |
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Don't know how many you have left but could you time yourself as you put one together as quickly as possible and report how long it takes here? Thanks
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Would appreciate additional pictures as you assemble them, thanks for doing this.
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