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101  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: August 08, 2024, 02:36:50 PM
Guys, what's going on near Kursk? They say Russians are being chased ?

Indeed interesting development. On surface another suicidal mission like all of the previous attempts. Russia has around 300k conscripts which it's not allowed to use inside Ukraine, but can definitely use on its own land, so PR move for next few days at great cost to Ukraine. Now let's see why Ukraine is willing to sacrifice it's remaining military force for some PR points now:

Ukrainian presidential adviser Mykhailo Podolyak announced during a national TV broadcast that the surprise incursion was launched to boost Kyiv's position in future negotiations with Russia, Telegram channel Country Politics reported.

The presidential adviser said Russian losses of territory, people and equipment will positively impact potential future negotiations with Russia in the war, launched by President Vladimir Putin in February 2022.

Heading into this winter with power cuts would be suicidal for Ukrainian leadership (and nothing good for EU), they risks full collapse and revolt from its citizens. So this is UA's last hurrah before they must start negotiations with Russia. Like i've been saying, this madness should finally end before 2025


The "suicidal mission" is now equivalent to what Ruzzia can take in more than a month of fighting anywhere else in the front. Yesterday's data shows 18 km of front with a maximum penetration of 20 km.

If there is a nearby negotiation (and it seems Zelensky has pointed in that direction and the last summit in Switzerland seemed to be a preparation to measure positions internationally), there is of course an interest in having as many PoWs as possible and getting as much land as possible.

It also seems there are some strategic objectives around creating a more defensible border and cutting at least one important railway line.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-russia-incursion-kursk-region-putin-b2593051.html
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War monitor the Institute for the Study of War (ISW) said Ukrainian soldiers had penetrated more than six miles (10km) across the border, breaking through two Russian defensive lines and a stronghold.

Russia declared a state of emergency amid the fierce fighting, despite seeking to claim that the situation was under control. Russian state media said that 3,000 people have been evacuated from the area.

This does not look "suicidal" to me. You know... compared to what Ruzzia has to throw in the meat grinder for an equivalent result, one would say that you are trying to make it look the opposite. Just saying.

Let's face it: Ruzzia has been caught on the wrong foot... by a lot.

I am surprised there haven't been any threads opened about this yet.

In recent months, Russia has massed hundreds of thousands of troops and other military equipment on the Russia-Ukraine border. It is well known that Russia wants Ukraine to be part of its county, however Russian dictator, President Putin, has claimed that the troop mass is part of a training exercise.

The US and NATO allies are sending military equipment to Ukraine to help repeal an attack, and there is some talk about possibly sending troops to the region.

Update 2/18/22:
It appears there may have been some kind of false flag operation in Dumbas, Ukraine, an area controlled by a separatist group, today, possibly involving an alleged bombing of the car belonging to the leader of the separatist group. It is possible this is part of some kind of false flag operation to create a pretext for an invasion.

President Biden today said he believes Putin has made the decision to invade and will start an invasion in the coming days.


Update 2/21/22:
It appears an invasion has begun


Update 2/23/22:
It appears there are some kind of bombings in Kiev, the capital of Ukraine


Just without taking any sides pure objective judgement:

To invade other countries its allowed.
Putin only went on this because he was sure that ukraine not in nato and not in Europe Union so the west not gona support ukraine so much.
If country not in alliance with anyone then it can be taken by stronger that's how the UK france and other colonial invavaders done in history.
If Putin was taking ukraine faster and ukraine had not Western help then it was more easy and not so much suffering for ukraine people.
The average person really don't care If he ruled by russia or ukraine the goverment is just goverment.
But what was better before war in ukraine anyways ?
Nothing really.
But the point here is Putin did not know that Western countries Will help someone who is not officially ally of them ...so this show's to china and russia that Western countries don't count on any agreements.
It show's to all the world that nothing counts...today we say one things tomorrow it can be changed what ever way is most beneficial that will be choosen.


Firstly, do not assume that Ukrainians do not mind if they are under Ruzzia or can partner with the EU. It is a completely life-changing decision in liberties, economy, growth,... Under Ruzzia, only Ruzzia gains (and only some in Ruzzia).

I am afraid your "objective judgement" is not really objective. It is obvious that if the war ends less people will die TODAY, but if Putin gets good profit from invading other countries more people will die TOMORROW, because he will interpret that invading is profitable and other countries will not do anything.

Ruzzia invades a recognised country in 2014, just taking the whole Crimea. No reaction. Putin invades Ukraine with the intention of taking all the rest. There is a reaction and Putin has to throw everything they have for little gain.

See the difference in incentives for a future invasion?
102  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: August 07, 2024, 06:31:45 PM
Edit to add latest news on Ukrainian "special military operation" in Kust -  advances of 7 km in depth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4NkYrh6kns

I am saying exactly what I said, there are many draft dodgers in Ruzzia and they pay their way out by bribing doctors, university officials or anyone in between. That Ruzzia has to pay staggering sums to get people to go to the front, that some regions meet the quota by bringing people from other poorer regions and sign them in in their region (namely Moscow, St Petersbourgh).

There is a reason why Ruzzia pay up-front... many of them do not last the first month or do not get their salaries ever. Ruzzia needs to dump 30.000 recruits to the meatgrinder just to keep things as they are. Ruzzia is paying to wage a war that is profoundly anti-economic. A massive waste of money and humans.

Re morale, etc... nothing to add, I already said that people who fight do so for a reason and they are there. I know Putin believed their intelligence officers and thought that the government in Ukraine was just for show and people did not care (as they no longer care in Ruzzia). At this point, even you should have figured out that it is not.

BTW the F16 are allowed to shoot at whatever looks like a Ruzzia plane getting too close to Ukraine, wherever they are.

On your cookies reference, same question, same answer: cookies do not hold an army in the front (again, waiting for proof of anything you have said about whoever you think did whatever you think he/she did).
...

So you're admitting to making a negative claim against Russia without mentioning that Ukraine is in far far worse position on that exact stat?

What are the people that get kidnapped in those military buses, or those that get caught trying to escape from Ukraine and then get sent to the frontlines are fighting for? What's more preferential for a country, forcing unwilling civilians to front lines, or financially incentivizing soldiers to sign up?
[...stuff...]

I cannot answer for what I do not say. Your interpretation is yours to justify and your claims yours to prove ... The exodus from Ukraine AND Ruzzia (as usual you only tell one side of the story, so let me help you with that) is know since the beginning of the war... years old news. The article says hundreds of thousands... it is actually closer to 2.5 million.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65790759

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Why are people leaving Russia, who are they, and where are they going?
4 June 2023

When President Putin announced a military mobilisation last September, thousands of Russians rushed to the border. Hundreds of thousands of Russians are estimated to have left their country since the start of the full-scale invasion of Ukraine. We look at who they are, where they are going, and why they are leaving.

Svetlana is in her early 30s and originally from a small town. She moved to Moscow at 18 to study physics at university. After graduation she worked as a product manager for various companies.
"I never thought I'd have to leave, I planned to retire in Moscow," she says, "I love Russia and I enjoyed my life."
Russians had been leaving even before the Ukraine war, including those who disagreed with Moscow's annexation of Crimea in 2014 and with new laws that made it easier to punish dissent. Many settled in the Baltic states and other EU countries, as well as in Georgia.
For Svetlana, the full-scale invasion of Ukraine of 2022 was a turning point.
"When the war started, I realised that it would not be over soon and also that people would not come out to protest. I felt both emotionally and rationally it made sense to leave," she says. She is now in Belgrade, Serbia's capital. "I wanted to put as great a distance between myself and the authorities as possible."
Many Russians shared her feelings and what had been a trickle turned into a stream.

As said, if there were no support for mobilisation and an army that believes in what they are doing, by now Ukraine would not exist. It is Putin's and the FSB mistake to think that it was not going to happen. As said, if there were popular support for the war in Ruzzia, volunteers would be flocking for any pay. This is Putin's war in Ruzzia, but it is clearly Ukraine's war in Ukraine. If some individuals break the law, they will be detained like anywhere else.

For example, in Ruzzia is illegal to hold a white paper or to not hold anything, so if you hold a white paper you are detained. If you protest against the war... you get sent to the front.

https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-protest-arrests/25324619.html

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Russians Detained For Holding Up 'Invisible Placards'



Speaking of which, it seems that Ukraine has invaded Ruzzia. I guess they are trying to create a buffer zone to make sure Putin does not invade again by "surprise". I know this sounds like a joke, but it is not. Even Ruzzian sources are confirming Ukraine's advance in Kurst Oblast with at least one locality encircled now.


RE f16... yes... do not worry, they are not allowed to shoot, just as ATACAMS could not be used inside Ruzzia (wink wink).


103  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: August 07, 2024, 11:16:24 AM
My post is about your post. As usual, I am not sure if you are trying to not understand: you want me to answer a question that seems to be only in your mind.

All soldiers get some short of pay, what you should ask yourself is why there is an initial sign-up bonus that is different across regions in Ruzzia and is deliriously high. If you recall the communism, salaries were relatively low and the army had some kind of a "cause", like our vatnik here Branko. If you need to pay so much it means that Ruzzians and other in the orbit understand that there is little chance of coming back alive and plenty of chances of getting sent to die quickly. They perfectly understand that there is no "cause" here other than Putin's delirious ambitions.

Anyway, as most people have seen by now, a few f16 have been seen while Zelensky gave a speech. It is interesting that the wings were carefully covered by cammo nets = I would say this is not casual, that they do not want the Ruzzis to know what is in there - a short range AIM, a long range AIM or... a Meteor.

Anyway, there are just a few units, so I would consider this a test. Let's see how it goes.


Following your logic what can we conclude when Ukrainian males risk their lives trying to escape their country, or those military buses catching "new recruits" on the street? Let me make it even easier for you (not that you'll answer, but still).

Can a 30yr old male leave his country if he wishes in: Kiev? Moscow?
Can a 30yr old male living outside his country get a new passport/drivers license/consulate services from the embassy if he's a citizen of: Ukraine? Russia?
Can a 30yr old male who doesn't want to go to the front lines walk freely around without being kidnapped in: Kiev? Moscow?
How many males died in the last 2 year escaping through the border from: Ukraine? Russia?

After you answer those questions, you'll see why we're all laughing at your rhetorical question about military sign up bonuses in Russia.

Can't imagine Ukrainians being asked to suffer through the winter with power shortages, people will force Z to negotiate, so the hot stage of this conflict should finally be over before 2025.

Glad to know you keep your sense of humour, you are going to need it. BTW who is "we"? You troll farm inmates?

I guess you are also trying to ignore how many try not to get drafted in Ruzzia by paying doctors or faking being in uni? And these are not even the ones going to the front... well except those that are "convinced" to sign a contract later.. you know...

Ukrainians leaving the country may mean they value more their families than fighting, they do not want to live in a Ruzzian occupied territory or, simply, that not every Ukrainian in fighting age wishes to fight or be drafted. It is a though decision and the government has prioritised keeping the young rather than the old.

But the fact is that you cannot keep a whole army if there is not a will to fight - and that has been proven historically many times: soldiers will obey orders, but not at any cost nor at any price. If there was no will to fight in Ukraine, there would be no Ukraine. So if you point is that somehow the Ukrainian army is hostage, it simply does not make any sense - it is impossible. You do not believe me... ask the Ruzzians what happens when soldiers rebel, they know...

https://scholarworks.gvsu.edu/gvjh/vol7/iss1/1/

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The Russian Revolution was caused by the consequences of World War I: economic crises, and demotivated soldiers. In both cases, governments – the Romanov Dynasty and the Provisional Government that first seized power from the Tsar – were unable to resolve these problems
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Is this the case of accuse your opponent of you weakness? Or are you honestly implying that there are less Ukrainian draft dodgers, cause that would be really funny.

Will to fight (aka morale) is not binary, it's typically correlated with the length of the conflict and developments on the frontline and back at home, but why can't Ukraine just pay their soldiers more like Russia does, did Nuland stopped sending her cookies? Why do you think this is happening, and was this the plan all along? Here's ten F16s but don't shoot too far inside Russia and you won't get money for soldiers so you have to kidnap them yourself, now go defeat Russia, good luck  Undecided

Edit: What kind of leader after considering all this goes, yes i'm willing to sacrifice my people and nation for your global ambitions?

I am saying exactly what I said, there are many draft dodgers in Ruzzia and they pay their way out by bribing doctors, university officials or anyone in between. That Ruzzia has to pay staggering sums to get people to go to the front, that some regions meet the quota by bringing people from other poorer regions and sign them in in their region (namely Moscow, St Petersbourgh).

There is a reason why Ruzzia pay up-front... many of them do not last the first month or do not get their salaries ever. Ruzzia needs to dump 30.000 recruits to the meatgrinder just to keep things as they are. Ruzzia is paying to wage a war that is profoundly anti-economic. A massive waste of money and humans.

Re morale, etc... nothing to add, I already said that people who fight do so for a reason and they are there. I know Putin believed their intelligence officers and thought that the government in Ukraine was just for show and people did not care (as they no longer care in Ruzzia). At this point, even you should have figured out that it is not.

BTW the F16 are allowed to shoot at whatever looks like a Ruzzia plane getting too close to Ukraine, wherever they are.

On your cookies reference, same question, same answer: cookies do not hold an army in the front (again, waiting for proof of anything you have said about whoever you think did whatever you think he/she did).


I am not as optimistic as those who say Ruzzia can keep this until mid 2025, but there is a point to it - Currently the war is 40% of the Ruzzian gdp, which is an astronomical figure for a war that is not economically "profitable".

 You are not mentioning the increased rate of plane accidents (civilian), you are not mentioning the cut in subsidies recently announced... you are not mentioning the population decrease, the immigration,... well, too much lost in the picture.



LOL, what are you smoking, I want some

Russia is spending 40% of FEDERAL BUDGET on war, not 40% of GDP

Correction accepted. Unfortunately, I am not smoking anything. Still far from 13% of federal budget spent by the US, which seems determined to be able to win 3 wars at the time.
104  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is the "weird Trump" debacle a wake up call for project 2025 and agenda 47? on: August 07, 2024, 10:55:31 AM
There's a reason why almost every poster in this community who favors Trump does not live in the United States.

They like Trump because they think (wrongly) that Trump will make the price of Bitcoin go up. They would be in favor of electing Hitler in the USA if they thought he would make Bitcoin go up.

But actual Americans are going to vote on domestic policy issues like abortion which affects their everyday lives, not the lives of foreign Bitcoin holders.

That's why Harris is now ahead in the polls, and her lead keeps getting bigger.





That's does not look like a complete picture. We have to face it, there are many US nationals that support Trump, and their support goes beyond anything reasonable: it does not matter if he is declared guilty of rape (as it happened), having fun with a porn actress or anything that would traditionally make a Republican candidate have to leave the race.

And then we have the people that matter: the swing voters. In the bitcoin forum, there will be people who will vote on that issue, but outside there are many concerns that need to be addressed and they tend to be either social (responsible paternity, racism,...) or economic (inflation, jobs, healthcare,...)

Trump likes the debate to be about name calling, that is where he thrives... in the Xtwitter 250 character rant, in the 5 minutes of name-calling in TV... He only loosely explains his proposal, sometimes to the point of saying one thing and the opposite... if you look at his policies there is a traditional conservative proposal and going back to the middle ages in social, but where is the economic discourse? What does Trump think is going to happen if he turns upside down all the international agenda?

105  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Publicly held Trump trials - ongoing on: August 06, 2024, 12:49:08 PM
I was wondering, how will Trump look like when he starts the racist speech about all Mexicans being criminals? He is now a convicted criminal. Grin Grin

Is he ahead?

Only with inbred yokels, religious fundamentalists, white-collar criminals and the KKK.  But the US seemingly has an abundance of such people.  Or they're just the loudest.  It's difficult to tell.

data shows a very close race, to close to 50% to even call any result considering the polls margin of error, but yeah, you have described the typical Trump voter base. Then there are those who may choose based on their economy or what they perceive is best for the country and have some degree of thinking.

If you want to understand Trump's base, those that do not care about anything just look to this thread and see who is says what and the degree of reasoning that goes behind it.
106  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: August 06, 2024, 09:13:45 AM
My post is about your post. As usual, I am not sure if you are trying to not understand: you want me to answer a question that seems to be only in your mind.

All soldiers get some short of pay, what you should ask yourself is why there is an initial sign-up bonus that is different across regions in Ruzzia and is deliriously high. If you recall the communism, salaries were relatively low and the army had some kind of a "cause", like our vatnik here Branko. If you need to pay so much it means that Ruzzians and other in the orbit understand that there is little chance of coming back alive and plenty of chances of getting sent to die quickly. They perfectly understand that there is no "cause" here other than Putin's delirious ambitions.

Anyway, as most people have seen by now, a few f16 have been seen while Zelensky gave a speech. It is interesting that the wings were carefully covered by cammo nets = I would say this is not casual, that they do not want the Ruzzis to know what is in there - a short range AIM, a long range AIM or... a Meteor.

Anyway, there are just a few units, so I would consider this a test. Let's see how it goes.


Following your logic what can we conclude when Ukrainian males risk their lives trying to escape their country, or those military buses catching "new recruits" on the street? Let me make it even easier for you (not that you'll answer, but still).

Can a 30yr old male leave his country if he wishes in: Kiev? Moscow?
Can a 30yr old male living outside his country get a new passport/drivers license/consulate services from the embassy if he's a citizen of: Ukraine? Russia?
Can a 30yr old male who doesn't want to go to the front lines walk freely around without being kidnapped in: Kiev? Moscow?
How many males died in the last 2 year escaping through the border from: Ukraine? Russia?

After you answer those questions, you'll see why we're all laughing at your rhetorical question about military sign up bonuses in Russia.

Can't imagine Ukrainians being asked to suffer through the winter with power shortages, people will force Z to negotiate, so the hot stage of this conflict should finally be over before 2025.

Glad to know you keep your sense of humour, you are going to need it. BTW who is "we"? You troll farm inmates?

I guess you are also trying to ignore how many try not to get drafted in Ruzzia by paying doctors or faking being in uni? And these are not even the ones going to the front... well except those that are "convinced" to sign a contract later.. you know...

Ukrainians leaving the country may mean they value more their families than fighting, they do not want to live in a Ruzzian occupied territory or, simply, that not every Ukrainian in fighting age wishes to fight or be drafted. It is a though decision and the government has prioritised keeping the young rather than the old.

But the fact is that you cannot keep a whole army if there is not a will to fight - and that has been proven historically many times: soldiers will obey orders, but not at any cost nor at any price. If there was no will to fight in Ukraine, there would be no Ukraine. So if you point is that somehow the Ukrainian army is hostage, it simply does not make any sense - it is impossible. You do not believe me... ask the Ruzzians what happens when soldiers rebel, they know...

https://scholarworks.gvsu.edu/gvjh/vol7/iss1/1/

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The Russian Revolution was caused by the consequences of World War I: economic crises, and demotivated soldiers. In both cases, governments – the Romanov Dynasty and the Provisional Government that first seized power from the Tsar – were unable to resolve these problems

All this money is not endless, the Russian economy is still cracking, sooner or later the money will run out and the soldiers will not go anywhere at all. Take away their money now, they will run away and the front will fall from the Russians. It would be nice

That mantra we listen from day 1...yet:

https://blogs.worldbank.org/en/opendata/world-bank-country-classifications-by-income-level-for-2024-2025

"This year, three countries—Bulgaria, Palau, and Russia—moved from the upper-middle-income to the high-income category:"

"Economic activity in Russia was influenced by a large increase in military related activity in 2023, while growth was also boosted by a rebound in trade (+6.8%),
 the financial sector (+8.7%), and construction (+6.6%). These factors led to increases in both real (3.6%) and nominal (10.9%) GDP, and Russia’s Atlas GNI per capita grew by 11.2%."

But Branko, the most interesting things are the ones you do not talk about.... you forgot to mention the interest rates.... Why are you not mentioning the interest rates? Let me help you: why do you need to raise the interest rates to 16% for the rouble? Is it because inflation is at 8.3%? Why is inflation at 8.3?... Could it be that you are financing the war printing money like if it where monopoly notes??

These figures are exactly what you would expect when you are burning through the inventory. You can buy a new car, fancy clothes, keep the heating a 24, travel the world... all you have to do is sell the house. In Ruzzian terms, it means running through all the stored cold-war inventory of tanks, airframes that will not be replaced in many years (or ever),  ships that will not be built again... and lately thanks to Ukraine, you refineries and oil storage (which take many years to re-build)...

Looks to me like a self-demilitarisation.

I am not as optimistic as those who say Ruzzia can keep this until mid 2025, but there is a point to it - Currently the war is 40% of the Ruzzian gdp, which is an astronomical figure for a war that is not economically "profitable".

 You are not mentioning the increased rate of plane accidents (civilian), you are not mentioning the cut in subsidies recently announced... you are not mentioning the population decrease, the immigration,... well, too much lost in the picture.

107  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Publicly held Trump trials - ongoing on: August 05, 2024, 10:50:37 PM
Anything that is not to your liking is Marxist? Any judge that is investigating Trump is politically motivated? You are an expert in fooling yourself.

You are talking to the OP, right? Lol.     Cool

I am the OP stupid.

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Wow, I had no idea there were countries who actually banned felons and people who committed serious crimes from entering to their soil even if their comply with other requirements. I knew there were people who could not travel because their status as HIV positive, but this is a very different thing.
Also, it is true what you say, Trump would love to be able to pardon himself, but he won't be able to, that is why he mostly scared of state cases against him, instesd of federal charges.

Still, if he managed to get reelected in November, I assume the leaders of those countries which restrict the entrance for felons will somehow make an exception for Trump, or try to hold their official visits in other countries.
To me it is more ironic Trump cannot own a gun, being the de facto leader of the pro-gun party of the United States.

That is actually a funny fact yes, you cannot go into the US or become citizen if you have pending convictions or have been convicted of crimes, etc... but it is absolutely ok to become president  Grin Grin

I honestly thought that the US would never be this divided. The Roman Empire could only fall due to divisions, greed and corruption around the emperors. The Supreme Court has made the President some for short of Tyrant that answers to none and I see some resemblance to Rome's faith.
108  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: August 05, 2024, 10:48:49 PM
My post is about your post. As usual, I am not sure if you are trying to not understand: you want me to answer a question that seems to be only in your mind.

All soldiers get some short of pay, what you should ask yourself is why there is an initial sign-up bonus that is different across regions in Ruzzia and is deliriously high. If you recall the communism, salaries were relatively low and the army had some kind of a "cause", like our vatnik here Branko. If you need to pay so much it means that Ruzzians and other in the orbit understand that there is little chance of coming back alive and plenty of chances of getting sent to die quickly. They perfectly understand that there is no "cause" here other than Putin's delirious ambitions.

Anyway, as most people have seen by now, a few f16 have been seen while Zelensky gave a speech. It is interesting that the wings were carefully covered by cammo nets = I would say this is not casual, that they do not want the Ruzzis to know what is in there - a short range AIM, a long range AIM or... a Meteor.

Anyway, there are just a few units, so I would consider this a test. Let's see how it goes.

109  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Publicly held Trump trials - ongoing on: August 04, 2024, 11:34:33 PM
Anything that is not to your liking is Marxist? Any judge that is investigating Trump is politically motivated? You are an expert in fooling yourself.
110  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: August 04, 2024, 10:57:47 PM
Speaking of which, apparently the non-existent Ukrainian navy has destroyed another Ruzzia submarine (I will confirm if something comes out). How much is a submarine? How long does it take to build a submarine and where can it be built?

Is not a single case, there have been a number of strikes in Crimea deleting (apparently) 2 x s400, but it seems that 1 stormshadow or another type of missile hit the sub in drydock. How much would that be? 1 Billion?

You don't even realize that Ukraine hasn't done anything. It was the US or Nato, and it was simply attributed by them and the media to Ukraine. Ukraine is long gone, even though there are a bunch of loudmouths saying she is still there.

Cool

Provide evidence. Or is this like when you say stuff bout god and we have to believe it? Or like when you say anything else but do not bother to prove, argue or reason (like 99% of your posting)?
111  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What is wrong with Trump that you notice and it is not obvious? on: August 04, 2024, 10:55:21 PM
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So... using tan on the face it is a politician thing now in the United States? I did know know and to be fair, it is less noticeable in the case of Joe Biden than on Trump's face. It seems whoever is in charge of Trump's look is less subtle with the amount of tan they are to apply on his face and hands, there was a good reason the people of the United States have called him "Orange man" and Joe Biden has not been a target of those names, besides of crooked Joe and sleepy Joe.
Makes me wonder whether other Republican politicians also engage in this stuff.

That's racist!... wait, ... no, racist is when you say that Kamala only recently became black. But, according to dumBAss, everybody does those things (he probably means everyone he knows) so, if everybody does them, it may actually be fine... (all this according to his theory).

Bottom line, you can call Trump the orange man, but I think that since everybody can call names... he can be called the <<orange agent>>, same used in Vietman.
112  Economy / Gambling / Re: Gambler Loses 1.4 million USD in a bet with lower than 1.01 odds! on: August 04, 2024, 10:49:56 PM
https://nypost.com/2023/01/15/gambler-loses-massive-1-4-million-bet-on-chargers-jaguars-game/
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One bettor wasted a massive $1.4 million wager after betting on Los Angeles before the Jaguars mounted an epic comeback to beat the Chargers 31-30, according to Action Network’s Darren Rovell.

It seems that a gambler has loss this massive amount (1.4 million USD) playing a bet with an odds lower than 1.01! (exactly 1.008)

I think there are several lessons here:
- there is not easy bet! even lower odds there is always a risk.
- it's really risky playing an huge amount. This not helps gambler because the risk is much much higher then rewards!
- gambling is not easy at all! it's really hard achieve a profit even for easy games!

what your opinion about this gambling issue? did you had experience similar experience? how a good gambler should avoid such mistakes?

Oh man. I think there is no point in over-analysing all of this. Poor guy just had a BAD DAY! Hahahaha

In cases like these, we need to discuss and find solutions so that people who intend to make these types of bets don't do it because they will realize that these types of bets are not profitable and have a high risk, even though people who like these types of bets think that there is no risk. So when a person is thinking about putting a lot of money on a bet with odds of 1.10 and reads everything that was posted in this thread, even if that person was convinced that they would be making a good choice by betting on the game with odds of 1.10, they will not bet when they read the comments that were posted in this thread.

Many times, people make bad decisions because they didn't have other advice to listen to, and this section has good advice, so we have to continue giving good advice. and about having a bad day, I think that was not the case for this person, he could continue making these types of bets with low odds, but it would be enough for him to lose one bet, something that would be inevitable for him to lose all his money. so he did not lose money due to bad luck or because he had a bad day, he lost money because he did not have knowledge and an effective strategy in sports betting
Its a no brainer actually but there are really those people who are really that ridiculously thinking that they wont really be able to lose on just basing up on the odds that it is really that impossible on which as long those chances wont really be dropping to 0% then there's no way that you could really be having a risk free gambling or betting. So it would really be that just right that you should always take up some considerations when it comes on losing no matter how low the odds are. There are really just that gamblers or bettors who are really that becomes that too confident about their bets despite of those odds.
1.01 might sound that a sure win but its not. If you would really be that putting up all in bet or simply the amount that you cant afford to lose then it would really be that a huge problem on you on where you have lost
up everything with that bet or particular stake. This is why you should really be that careful on whatever decisions you would really be that making into. Gambling or betting is really that risky and there's always a chance of losing no matter how small it would be. Self realizations and having those kind of control is really that mainly needed on this particular time. Basing up on op then 1.4M bet isnt something that small amount that we are talking but assuming that a particular gambler do able to make out such big amount of bet then this guy is probably a rich people.

Making up some decisions basing up on doing bets should really be taken up responsibly. You cant really just that putting up yourself on doing blind bets or being that too confident because it would really be that your
demise if you would really having that kind of approach. You would really be just that basically making yourself having this kind of aspect on where you would really be that trying out to take such
step on which you do believe inside that you are really that having kind.

There is an scenario in which it would it would make some sense to place such bet, or maybe more than one to be honest - for example if you desperately need to multiply the money, for debts, and these can get very large and the larger the more dangerous so 100 and zero are the same if you cannot pay. Another scenario is if the player has the change to place many more similar bets and statistically could win.
113  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: August 04, 2024, 04:10:21 PM
Soldiers in the front do not fight for cookies (well, actually the Ruzzians are giving monumental cookies for signing in). Again, you do not know enough about why your enemy is your enemy... or are pretending not to know.
...

You keep parroting this but then fail to address the question why the cookies were given out to Ukraine in the first place before 100s of thousands ended up dying? And now it's time to repay back those cookies with large interest. You didn't really think they were free, did you?

The agency cut the war-torn nation by two notches to CC, the second-lowest level above default. The agency said the outlook was negative, according to a Friday statement.
“The rating action reflects our belief that the inclusion of commercial creditors (Eurobond holders) in Ukraine’s ongoing government debt relief effort is a virtual certainty,” analysts led by Karen Vartapetov wrote.

How much more land do you think Ukraine will have to put up to restructure this debt?

And your answer fails to answer why paying a soldier the equivalent to 3 or 5 years of salary up-front, just to sign-in, is somehow ok for Ruzzia - whose is this war on behalf of? Ruzzians or... you know who?

If you want some short of answer you need to make some short of question. Until now you have published a few oversized pictures and vague comments of a visit.

Morozov meanwhile...

https://youtu.be/q6h5ev4nlE8

Bad news or may be good. The sub hit yesterday is the previously hit Rostov on don. Apparently Ruzzia decided to repair it.. in the same place ...so, unless this is psy-op and a masterful plan... it is simply the biggest stupidity. Not surprising really - is one of many.
114  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: August 03, 2024, 10:26:09 PM
Speaking of which, apparently the non-existent Ukrainian navy has destroyed another Ruzzia submarine (I will confirm if something comes out). How much is a submarine? How long does it take to build a submarine and where can it be built?

Is not a single case, there have been a number of strikes in Crimea deleting (apparently) 2 x s400, but it seems that 1 stormshadow or another type of missile hit the sub in drydock. How much would that be? 1 Billion?
115  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: August 03, 2024, 07:58:50 PM


I would not bet the house on exact figures, but this is around it. It is a system in which wealth can be made even if you are not "someone". You do need to have some base though, it is not like you are born from a crack addict and become millionaire at 30 -  much easier if you can go to a good college and have some basic contacts.


Not sure where you pull your data from, but Russia doesn't do that much worse than USA on social mobility index:

https://www3.weforum.org/docs/Global_Social_Mobility_Report.pdf

And since its WEF document, its probably biased toward USA

I wonder how Ruzzia data is not going to be Ruzzian biased equally on this. But anyway Ruzzia is in 39 in 82 according to your table, it does not mean that a territory controlled by Ruzzia is going to reach that level (e.g. Georgia is 53). US is 27, which only surprises me a little, as Universities are ridiculously expensive.

But, it is evident that EU countries score mostly well, and that is where Ukraine should be in a decade - I think Ukraine should follow an Easter European democracies model (I do not fool myself believing that it ill become Finland). Is a much better prospect that staying where they are, getting to mid-talbe like Ruzzia or, what would be more likely, falling behind. Poland is a good example of what Ukraine could be at position 30 and Lithuania or Finland a dream scenario.

Another question is if social mobility is a good measure in a country that does not grow, I mean, being rich in US is not being rich in Albania.

btw there has been a massive prisoner exchange just yesterday in Turkiya.  Some people want to think that it means something... I doubt it.

116  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: August 03, 2024, 03:10:23 PM
Soldiers in the front do not fight for cookies (well, actually the Ruzzians are giving monumental cookies for signing in). Again, you do not know enough about why your enemy is your enemy... or are pretending not to know.




Strategic allocation of resources. Exploit/take from where it doesn't matter and place it where it matters the most. Just as "freedom", needs to be exported exclusively to countries bordering or under opponents influence. Then propagandists can parrot how great things are in this region after they accepted freedom cookies, and other regions should surely follow them  Roll Eyes . Pretty basic stuff, works pretty well until the global south catches on to what's going on, and aligns their interests into some kind of a bloc



Those superyachts and money in hands of few oligarchs instead spread into general population is EXACTLY how USA banksters
want it to be in all countries

You may argue about income distribution, just as many people in the US do. The problem is that you need income to have income distribution and under Ruzzia, all the income goes to Moscow.

Apart, potentially anyone can do business in the US. There are thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people which have built their own large fortunes in perfectly legitimate business or even by investing consistently. That opportunity simply does not exist in Ruzzia -  it is just the system dude, it does not allow people and countries to grow, chose and develop.

Some of my relatives live in the USA, they say you can't, for example, open restaurant without paying "protection" to local mob,
same as in post-Soviet Russia

Also, "socialism for the rich" takes taxes from ordinary people and give it to Elon Musk and such
2008 crisis, they bailed USA oligarchs, but let small businesses go bankrupt.
Only difference is that USA pond is much bigger, so general level of fishes of all sizes is better


I am not sure where are you getting this from or if it has any resemblance of truth, but most of the US is open for business and mob-free. It is easy to open a company, offer services or create any type of business. In fact if probably easier than in many EU countries. There are millions of US citizens that started in middle class or even in low-middle class or - in some cases from nearly nothing and that no have assets well above a million and all built in their working years. They are mostly boring and do not appear in the TV. And frankly if you have some talent, you can make a very good life.

I do not think there is any socialism in the US as I understand it. At most, free health care could be construed as such?? But yes the US system is costly and the people with the money hold power - but it is not infinite power and is not all built around the army and the secret service which account for a relatively small part of the economy.

Ruzzia is not a recipe for growth for Ukraine, the whole system is just slightly more efficient than communism - sometimes less efficient - when the secret service controls the economy, it stagnates.  If you have an army of that size, that influence and taking so much of your budget, you need wars and enemies all the time.

To be honest if you look at population growth in Ruzzia... there is a big problem. So Ruzzia is not a good system even for themselves.

Since they bank rescue which you can rightfully claim as bailing out the oligarch, certainly I did like it as much as you when it happened, the banks have much tighter controls and stronger regulation - so too big to fail now means too big to be left in the wild - let's hope Trump does not Trump-it.

Assets wise:
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How many millionaires are there in the United States?
We estimate that there are 23,684,985 millionaire households in the United States, or roughly 18.04% of all households.

Earnings wise:

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How many multi-millionaires are in the US? About 8,046,080 US households earn $2 million or more, covering about 6.25% of American households. 5,671,005 US households earn over $3 million or more, covering about 4.41% of all US households

I would not bet the house on exact figures, but this is around it. It is a system in which wealth can be made even if you are not "someone". You do need to have some base though, it is not like you are born from a crack addict and become millionaire at 30 -  much easier if you can go to a good college and have some basic contacts.
117  Economy / Gambling / Re: Are there any good betting websites for the upcoming Euro on: August 02, 2024, 10:00:33 PM
I do not like sports betting in general so I cannot tell you something that you cannot google yourself or someone in this forum will know, however it depends if you are looking for good odds or something different, like better play or live streams included if you put a bet. Most likely any site will be accepting the usual bets if they have a sports area as usual.
118  Economy / Gambling / Re: How will I know I'm playing on a reliable online casino site on: August 02, 2024, 09:57:52 PM
Short answer - you don't. Nothing is reliable 100% and it is not a bad idea to diversify your sites instead of just playing one site. It is similar to a market to be honest, how do you know that your are really putting your money on a company that is worth? It is not such an easy task even if you know and have much more public information that about gambling sites. Obvious advice: check this forum for reputation and long lasting.
119  Economy / Gambling / Re: Gambler Loses 1.4 million USD in a bet with lower than 1.01 odds! on: August 02, 2024, 09:54:35 PM
The funnest part is how little the odd is and still lost, however its all about luck not strategies or smartness.
True, the luck is the main factor, if someone's luck isn't good then he/she can lose a bet with so low odds while on the other hand if someone's luck if good then they could win bets with high odds. When it comes to strategy, high odds are always considered risky however, if someone's luck is not in their favor then low odds can also be risky. We have learnt a great lesson from that gambler, that luck is the main determiner of success in gambling without it there's loss only.

When sport bets is the game, most especially football regardless of the odds you have to depend on luck to win the bet, because the game can change at anytime, some of the time when such incidents of low odds selection leading to big lose happens I always check the level at which those games are played and when the time their take the bets.


Let say if the odds comes when the game is already at it halftime, or deep in the second half let say around 60 minutes into the game, that could help to increase the chances of winning such bet, but anything outside that ratio coming to stake such bet in the first half can be a big risk, so the bet was not well calculated.
lol
It seems you’re still not familiar with the uncertainties of gambling because even with a football game at 70minutes, anything can still happen and there are games that results have change at the last minutes and that’s the wonders of gambling that makes it enticing and and even more competitive.

I never knew this topic is still active and this is a eye opener to slot of gamblers who gamble mostly on odds that even small odds can still loss and as such we should only gamble the amount we can afford to loss.

Uncertainty is what keeps players active in gambling, it is the essence of it. I wonder how hooked you need to be to either not caring about 1 million - which is not that common even for the richer bit of people, or how bad is your case if you need to play that far to feel the thrill of the game. It is simply annoying that someone shall take it to that point.
120  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: August 02, 2024, 11:57:46 AM
Soldiers in the front do not fight for cookies (well, actually the Ruzzians are giving monumental cookies for signing in). Again, you do not know enough about why your enemy is your enemy... or are pretending not to know.




Strategic allocation of resources. Exploit/take from where it doesn't matter and place it where it matters the most. Just as "freedom", needs to be exported exclusively to countries bordering or under opponents influence. Then propagandists can parrot how great things are in this region after they accepted freedom cookies, and other regions should surely follow them  Roll Eyes . Pretty basic stuff, works pretty well until the global south catches on to what's going on, and aligns their interests into some kind of a bloc



Those superyachts and money in hands of few oligarchs instead spread into general population is EXACTLY how USA banksters
want it to be in all countries

You may argue about income distribution, just as many people in the US do. The problem is that you need income to have income distribution and under Ruzzia, all the income goes to Moscow.

Apart, potentially anyone can do business in the US. There are thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people which have built their own large fortunes in perfectly legitimate business or even by investing consistently. That opportunity simply does not exist in Ruzzia -  it is just the system dude, it does not allow people and countries to grow, chose and develop.
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