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981  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Controversial statement from an American senator. on: May 29, 2023, 12:06:52 AM
I think this post is an example of amplification of a meaningless, probably well out of context if not plainly fabricated statement that aims to make people think that the US hates Russia. It is a perfect example of this: https://youtu.be/ZUBTyAZg5OA?t=2500

No wonder you are linking a Russian site ... so obvious little troll.
Sorry if this post offended you, but I cannot be in control of how you feel. I have no intention of instigating anything, I am just sharing what I think is not a good statement to make as someone holding a public office. Every life matter, even though we come from different places in the world.  

if not plainly fabricated statement that aims to make people think that the US hates Russia.
The videos were on twitter, just search for it. The chances of it not being fabricated is higher.

The post does not offend me. The problem is that the information is biased and comes from a source that has deleted the full context to support the fake "Russophobia" argument that is flying around from the Kremlin. There is no Russophobia  there is a problem with the Russian Federation government and Putin and Co. are trying to make it look like if this was actually a problem with the Russians, which is certainly not and you are helping spread that lie - and it looks to me that you know what you are doing.

FULL DECLARATIONS HERE

Obviously if you are at war and there are Russian soldiers you eventually need to kill as many as possible with as little money as possible. That is the context of this.

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Graham said he was visiting on the 457th day of a war that Russia had assumed would be completed within three days and Graham said Ukrainians resisting the invasion reminded him of "our better selves in America. There was a time in America that we were this way, fighting to the last person, we were going to be free or die."

"Now you are free," Zelenskiy responded in the encounter. "And we will be."

Graham replied: "And the Russians are dying."

Zelenskiy then added: "Yes, but they came to our territory. We are not fighting on their territory."


Peskov and other Russian officials directly linked Graham's praise for the benefits of U.S. assistance to his comments on Russians dying in the conflict.

Initial extracts of the conversation released by Zelenskiy's office had not made clear that the two remarks were made in different parts of the conversation.

Peskov castigated the senator in comments to the Shot Telegram channel, saying: "It is difficult to imagine a greater shame for a country than having such senators."

Russian Security Council Deputy Chairman Dmitry Medvedev called Graham, a 67-year-old Republican, an old fool.



982  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Controversial statement from an American senator. on: May 28, 2023, 08:17:43 PM
Senator Lindsey Graham who has always not liked Russia is in the news again for a very controversial statement made during his recent visit to Ukraine in a discussion with Zelensky.

"Russians are dying (...) We have never spent money so well" - Senator Lindsey Graham.

This statement does not sound good to me, what do you think?

Here is a link to the the news and the video.
https://en.topwar.ru/218004-jeto-privodit-k-gibeli-russkih-posetivshij-kiev-amerikanskij-senator-lindsi-grjem-zajavil-ob-udachnyh-vlozhenijah-v-ukrainu.html


I think it’s a very badly chosen thing to say. Obviously Putin is breaking all kinds of rules & moral codes by invading Ukraine. Soldiers are just carrying out a job though, lots of them probably don’t agree with the war but they might not have a choice. All of the soldiers fighting on both sides have families & friends, people who care about them. It’s just a very unwise thing to say, political suicide for his career in some ways.

It is a bad thing to say, fair enough, but the truth is that sadly you do need to kill RF soldiers, some of them Russians because there is a war going on and there is no sign of anyone interested in talking peace, so the way forward is to send the "tourists" back to their families and sometimes that means that they will arrive there in a box.

I guess this US politician is not much of a diplomat, but thing are how they are... you put in money and you sent RF soldiers back home, one way or the other.

If the US had not used the CIA to upset elections in the Ukraine in 2014, a different government would be in Ukraine right now. This government would not have acted militarily against the people in the Donbas in early 2022, and Russia would not have "invaded" to protect both Russians and Ukrainians.

After listening to the statements of many US "elite" about Russia, it's cleat that the US is trying to steal Russia from the Russians through an economic war, that has become a military war.

If the US had stayed out of Ukraine altogether, there would be no war. Ukraine might have willingly joined Russia, like Crimea did, but at least there would have been a Ukraine of people, rather than this destruction of thousands that's going on right now.

Cool

This information is fake even if you repeat it a million times. This comes from a user "BADecker" who has the honour of having a thread on the forum to his name of people complaining about his inability to provide arguments, spreading fakes and particularly derailing any topic to repeat over and over false information. Cool
983  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Controversial statement from an American senator. on: May 28, 2023, 12:14:44 PM
I think this post is an example of amplification of a meaningless, probably well out of context if not plainly fabricated statement that aims to make people think that the US hates Russia. It is a perfect example of this: https://youtu.be/ZUBTyAZg5OA?t=2500

No wonder you are linking a Russian site ... so obvious little troll.

I have linked this video before and I plan to link specific times of it every time I find a post that so clearly seems to come from a troll farm, and I am sure I am going to get a lot of work so close to US presidentials.
984  Other / Politics & Society / US & RF citizens would need to have a look at this video - HOW YOU ARE PLAYED on: May 28, 2023, 11:49:13 AM
How people are played. Even smart people, even those that think out of the box or tend to be sceptic about news you all should know how the game is played and why certain politicians seem to be defending you, but are actually playing you all over.

This video is partial to one side, but there is so much truth on it, that is worth listening even if you may not agree with everything.

https://youtu.be/ZUBTyAZg5OA?t=2055
985  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Being Russia and Russian now on: May 28, 2023, 01:21:31 AM
Sanctions really mean cutting commercial relations, so the effect is maximised if you  can achieve a strong asymmetrical response. Sanctions against the RF cannot produce such an immediate effect as they would against another more developed country - I will explain: The RF's economy is strongly based on exports of commodities, it is a BRICS country with a bit of extra industrialisation - old and inefficient, but...

There in an interesting video on the matter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9w17Ne1S0M

The average citizen of the RF does not exist. There is an abyss between the elites in Moscow and St Petersburg and the shitty periphery and dominated republics. Empires do fall, but not in a year. 
986  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: May 26, 2023, 02:31:55 PM
There is a lot of debate about whether Ukraine should have defended Bakhmut which according to most military analysts is strategically unimportant, but it seems to me that the decision was still correct because it enabled Ukraine to secure the necessary time to additionally arm and train tens of thousands of soldiers who will participate in a counterattack.

It is true that Ukraine lost a lot of soldiers and equipment in that area, but Russia still lost a lot more because of the strategic positions of the Ukrainian army, which was and still is in elevated positions around the city, from which it prevents the further advance of the Russian army. In addition, advancing forward, the Russian army weakened its flanks all the time, and now this is becoming more and more apparent because the Ukrainian forces have all the prerequisites to surround the city and destroy everyone in it.

Bakhmut played a very important role in fully focusing the Russian forces to conquer it, but I have no doubt that the regular Russian troops will face a real challenge to hold it, because the "bloody musicians" who actually conquered the city are leaving the front, and considering the losses, it will take them months to recover.



Anything Prigozhin says has to be taken as enemy providing information=nothing, however he has been on a video speaking of casualties and missing in action that seem to come from a WW I scenario more than anything else. https://youtu.be/lu28nWsr-7A?t=23

Bakhmut is not surrounded or encircled at all. It seems that everything now is a "counteroffensive" and all enemy positions are "at risk of encirclement". We need to be realistic about it.

That said, Ukraine forces are doing a decent job in the flanks and, while I do not think they can "encircle" anything, it might very well happen that the RF forces "do an strategic retreat" to "seek better positions" out of Bakhmut which is "not strategic" and "the mission there has been accomplished" AKA as they kicked our ass out of there.

I do think that Ukraine has nearly all the capabilities to create that scenario and seems better supplied of mechanised means, it is just missing some decent air interceptors.

EDITED 28/05/2023 - There seems to be news of massive concentrations of Ukrainian troops in the Zaporilla region, while anecdotally, the Belgorod Oblast seems anything but "under RF's control".

EDITED 28/05/2023 - This bit of video may shed some light on the reality of this war

https://youtu.be/ZUBTyAZg5OA?t=3105
987  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: May 26, 2023, 11:00:18 AM
Russia is doing what it wante to do to stay at the defenced side,and my question is what are the nato country done so far concerning this invation progress on ukraine.all this things bolws down to louie xvi in the year 1793 trying to aborlished the sefdom law,https://twitter.com/i/status/1661587348730290176 and also wanted to removed the land tax and also the labour tax income.

Thanks, all that is irrelevant to war. Putin wants Crimea for strategic and economic reasons. All the rest are diversions and propaganda for the weak minds out there.

Something that is relevant, yet still a rumour is that Sweden may be training Ukrainian pilots in the Gripen fighter. This is quite a good fighter jet that very well suited for this war: minimal maintenance, can land and take off pretty much anywhere (e.g. a road) and is quite a decent weapons platform specialised in sensor equipment. Funny fact: it can be loaded in the back of a truck.

I would rather have peace, but if it has to be war, these is what I would like to have if I were Ukrainian.

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he Gripen is a fourth-generation, lightweight, single-engine fighter jet that is highly agile and has a small radar signature. It is equipped with advanced avionics, including a modern radar system, electronic warfare equipment, and a helmet-mounted display system that provides pilots with a 360-degree view of their surroundings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOa5zEwUPGc
988  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: May 26, 2023, 08:20:01 AM
Took 'em long enough.  If they would have started a year ago there would be a LOT more innocent Ukrainians and somewhat more innocent Russians among the living.

  Fragged Ukrainian Commander Subtitled Version (18+)
  https://www.bitchute.com/video/072Qeywur7bq/

Edit:  It's generally more workable to do fraggings in the field, and when convenient with enemy weapons.  Thinking back, it's been a very common complaint of the Ukrainians who surrender in groups and are taken prisoner by the Russians that their commanding officers 'abandoned them' in the field and they have no leadership (or support.)  Possibly there has been a constant threat of fragging for some time in the Ukrainian military.



That I have heard, but much much more about Russian soldiers left without food. We are talking days without to the point that they will abandon their positions, risk being spotted and shelled to raid anything nearby and when that runs out they are in foreign territory, where anyone there will not only not help, but rather give away their position... if they do not run straight away they will certainly do at the first sight of anything with a gun.


It goes back all the way to Louis XVI (1793) and ever since countless "causalities" along the way.
Louis XVI wanted to do such outrages things like abolish serfdom, remove the land tax and also the labour tax (income tax)
For a empire of over 50 million people you did not need a passport to enter until Archduke Franz Ferdinand got canceled and WW1
https://twitter.com/i/status/1661587348730290176

Is anyone really surprised about Putin living in a 300 years old universe? Anyway, I think the map is shown just to put forward an "objective".
989  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: May 25, 2023, 05:03:57 PM
Of course you are not going to get reports of what is happening with the missile strikes in Crimea, were you expecting to get them from the RF MoD? Ukraine is using it newly gained ability to use the Storm Shadow quite well. Not only in Crimea.
The strikes on the Crimea were carried out by Mugin-5 drones, and the target designation for them was provided by the American RQ-4B UAV from the Black Sea. Rumor has it that all Storm Shadow delivered to Ukraine were stored in the same warehouse as the depleted uranium shells and were destroyed by one accurate hit by Geranium. Perhaps that is why the Bundestag recently called to go for broke and transfer Taurus cruise missiles with a range of up to 500 km to Ukraine.


Of course, as all the S-300 were destroyed, and the Patriot destroyed, and all and any help destroyed by "precision strikes", yet the RF cannot fly any closer than 40 km from the Ukrainian positions, there's evidence or air defence.... you know, what ever you choose to believe as long as it matches what's out there.

I repeat, there is evidence of strikes using Storm Shadows, including a command bunker as far as Mariupol (which cannot be destroyed with drones).

On Belgorod... does it matter? Is it a victory? Could be argued, but what is clear is that the RF has thousands of kilometres of contact with Ukraine and there are not enough qualified troops to protect it all.

Does it matter if there is a suspicious cloud of smoke by the MoD in Moscow... I do not know, but ... there it is.

And RF claims to have destroyed many maritime drones... but...https://9gag.com/gag/a4o2jj6

EDITED: I read yesterday about this. I think it would be of the outmost stupidity to deploy tactical nukes. Anywhere to be honest. Like I said with the depleted Uranium, why would you that to a "friend". Oh, and what happens if Lukashenko is "replaced"??

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/russia-tactical-nuclear-weapons-belarus-98157727

EDITED: True scale of losses in Bakhmut: Wagner's estimated losses by pro-RF sources for avoidance of doubt, at 40.000. More than in 8 years in Afghanistan. Hardly a victory.
990  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: May 25, 2023, 12:44:10 PM
The RF army has taken a wasteland valley where a city called Bakhmut used to be and you seem quite happy about it. Oh, well, I like your attitude of being happy with what you can get.
This is not just a wasteland valley, it is a broken symbol of Ukrainian resistance. Moreover, Zelensky made Bakhmut a symbol of Ukraine’s resistance, publicly declared this in the US Congress, and then for many months continued to insist on a senseless defense from a military point of view, giving carte blanche to the commanders-in-chief of the ground forces of Syrsky, contrary to the opinion of Zaluzhny and numerous advisers from the USA and Great Britain. It turned out something like with Mariupol, it is symbolic that her cities fell on the same day with a difference of one year. The head of the DPR, Pushilin, recently confirmed that Bakhmut will be rebuilt, just like Mariupol. We broke it ourselves - we'll fix it ourselves.

However, the RF still has not learned that smoking in Crimea is not a good idea. So many depots, military infrastructure and fuel burning these days, one would think that they should have learned by now.
I do not see recent reports of any significant problems in the Crimea. Another night launch of drones from the Shkolny airfield in Odessa, again without much success. It seems Russian air defense and electronic warfare are pretty good.

By the way, yesterday, reports appeared on the Russian-language Internet about the successful completion of full-scale tests in Ukraine of the new Vityaz S-350 air defense system, which is capable of operating in a fully automatic mode (the operator’s actions are only needed to cancel the missile launch, if nothing is done, the launch occurs automatically when the target is captured). The cyberpunk we deserve.

...
A semi-automated system, not unusual at all and not really cyberpunk. This type of stuff is designed to avoid a missiles going through the protected area while the operator is gone pissing and very similar to the systems you would find in civil nuclear facilities and industrial installations. I guess I am not worried about having another system for defence.

Of course you are not going to get reports of what is happening with the missile strikes in Crimea, were you expecting to get them from the RF MoD? Ukraine is using it newly gained ability to use the Storm Shadow quite well. Not only in Crimea.
991  Economy / Gambling / Re: Gambling is a choice. on: May 25, 2023, 12:20:01 AM
Gambling is a choice for most people and that is a healthy choice and the healthy way of creating customers that stay and enjoy in the long term. However for many individuals this is not true, as there is something they cannot control that makes them bet over their budget or not stopping when fun is no longer there. I would not say it is a choice for everyone, just for most people.
992  Economy / Gambling / Re: Researching for Upcoming Game on: May 25, 2023, 12:16:16 AM
If people could directly find this Bitcointalk forum through search engines, social media, or other sites, they would not have a bad experience of feeling cheated by a scam casino. And for people who want to create a new casino, you can also interact with us here to find out what games you want to add to the new casino so they can immediately work and create a casino with a different look. But those people may have their own views on making casinos, and maybe they follow the existing trends.

The funny aspect of this is that you will hardly see this forum being advertised on any social media platform but yet it's ever relevant and well recognized globally, but through the use of the search engine as you've mentioned, one can see this platform as one of the recommendation given on articles or threads created about gambling on the forum, but for the sake of those already on the forum, they have the upper edge to utilize every opportunities found with the gambling sites present on this forum.

it's important to remember that gambling should never be seen as a reliable way to earn money or solve financial difficulties. It's a form of entertainment that comes with inherent risks so when you recommend to other you must be sure that you know the person enough and that has the gambling under control or else it will not matter which site you recommend and how legit it is.
993  Economy / Gambling / Re: Help us to choose a bonus for a review campaign! on: May 25, 2023, 12:11:28 AM
I would have to say that ratings and reviews should not be incentivized in the first place.

That seems incredibly intransparent and the review will not really be worth much. If anything this is just Megapari asking for a manufactured, inauthentic review from their own gambling community.  Of course they will only give a positive review, not only because those people want a bonus for their account but also because they are already biased in favor of the casino.

That's really a bit disappointing. I am not sure if I would want to trust such a casino after this.

Well, I must say, there are a few conflicting thoughts running through my mind on this one. On one hand, I can understand your point about incentivized reviews. It does raise concerns about transparency and the potential for manufactured or biased feedback. It's true that if people are solely motivated by bonuses, their reviews might not hold much value.

However, on the other hand, one could argue that offering incentives might encourage more people to participate and share their experiences, leading to a wider range of feedback. Additionally, it's possible that some participants genuinely appreciate the bonuses and are willing to provide honest reviews. Take for example the review campaigns that some other casinos have organized in the past. It's hard to argue that all those reviews were fake or insincere, especially when you consider that not all of them were glowing recommendations. In fact, many participants provide genuine feedback, both positive and negative, sharing their real experiences.

So before jumping to conclusions about Megapari's campaign, let's give it a fair chance and see what kind of reviews they receive. Only then can we judge the authenticity and credibility of the feedback received. People can still provide honest feedback, even if there are rewards involved.


When researching a platform, it's wise to consider a range of factors beyond just reviews, such as the platform's licensing and regulation, reputation in the industry, security measures, customer support, and overall user experience, so if the site wants to pay or incentivise reviews they are only covering a part of the many requirements that users tend to have when choosing who to play with.
994  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Wagering requirements for withdraw on: May 25, 2023, 12:08:54 AM
I do not say anything when it comes to bonuses or promotions where they demand what they want, things that nobody can do, because they can do it because it is simply their promotions and bonuses, but when it comes to withdrawal I understand that they can ask for the KYC, but It seems exaggerated to me when they take more than 3 days to verify or that they demand many requirements to be able to verify, it is not something that seems good to me, a withdrawal must be approved quickly because that causes one to get angry when they ask for many things which are not necessary.

Regarding bonuses or promotions, we must check the wagering requirements so that we don't misunderstand because many of us forget about that and just deposit money and play gambling. But when we win and want to withdraw the money, we are faced with a KYC request by the casino, which makes us feel cheated by the terms behind the promotion even though it is written that other requirements are needed before we can withdraw the money. And when the casino takes 3 days, I think it's still within reasonable limits because the casino needs to ensure that its members are not involved in any illegal activity. But it is questionable if it has passed 7 days because we have waited too long for the verification process and desire to withdraw money.
When I walk into a land based casino I have to hand them my ID card. They run it through a scanner, then they hand me my ID back and tell me welcome and good luck. They don't ask me where I got my money, am I doing anything illegal, or if it's ok for them to verify me for 3-7 days.

I'm sure when they scan my ID they may check for warrants or something, but other then that they tell me good luck and move on to the next person. Why is it different online? Why do I need to verify my source of income? KYC is too invasive IMO.
Indeed, you've touched on a topic that stirs up quite the debate. The differences in the verification process between land-based and online casinos can certainly feel intrusive.

Consider this, though: online platforms don't have the advantage of physically seeing their clients, making it easier for individuals to hide illicit activities or engage in money laundering. Land-based casinos, on the other hand, can monitor their clientele more closely.

Furthermore, online platforms operate globally, which brings a multitude of legal jurisdictions into play. To abide by various international laws, particularly those pertaining to money laundering, these platforms are compelled to adopt stringent KYC policies.

Could there be a less invasive way to ensure compliance? Possibly! It's definitely a matter worthy of further discussion and exploration.

While KYC procedures may feel invasive to some, they are intended to protect users and the sites alike. You must have a very good reason to not play along these, and yes, the fact there are many jurisdictions makes it much more difficult. Platforms typically have privacy policies in place to safeguard user information and comply with data protection laws but that is very dependent on the country.
995  Economy / Gambling / Re: Is this considered a safe practice on: May 25, 2023, 12:04:26 AM
You are absolutely correct. It's crucial to exercise caution when providing your credit card details to any platform or service, particularly online. There are some very basic precautions that you need to take, such as checking the SSL and security information, make sure that you trust the payment platform and do not pass the data directly to the site. Even being very careful is easy to fall for scams.
996  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: May 24, 2023, 11:56:39 PM
Well, that is, you deliberately threw in a fake and do not deny it. And Ukraine sells American military aid in military shops. Maybe I'll quote it too. Grin


I could answer that for Ukraine in the typical "Russian" style.
We don't know how they got them, we didn't provide them, they probably stole these machines from the battlefield.

Remember what Russia was saying about the Malaysian Flight 17 in 2014?
We weren't there, there were no Russian BUK systems in Ukraine. The US provided satellite images of Russian BUKs, but Russia answered that those belonged to the Ukrainian separatists.
Then the US provided satellite images showing the missile launchers were moved after the accident towards Russia - Russia denied again.
People were posting pictures and videos of Russian BUKs with Russian flags painted on them driving on the Ukrainian roads, but Russia kept denying and repeating that there were no Russian forces there.

When they catch you with your hand in the cookie jar, say it's not your hand.

It is possible the Russian soldiers who fought on the Ukrainian side took some of the abandoned vehicles for themselves, the way Ukrainian forces use salvaged Russian vehicles and weapons.
On the battlefield nobody cares who picks up what. If you find a tank - it's yours now. Same can be said about a hummer, or a missile launcher.


Blah blah blah lol. Grin

Fucking idiots, at least they would take Turkish armored vehicles. Couldn't keep Bakhmut? Let's send a suicide battalion in American armored vehicles, tell everyone that these are "Russian partisans", let them take over a village club near the border and everyone will die there. Brilliant.

The RF army has taken a wasteland valley where a city called Bakhmut used to be and you seem quite happy about it. Oh, well, I like your attitude of being happy with what you can get. However, the RF still has not learned that smoking in Crimea is not a good idea. So many depots, military infrastructure and fuel burning these days, one would think that they should have learned by now.
997  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: May 24, 2023, 06:20:11 PM
............. I have a map from the 800s with no Russia (RF, Russian Empire, Moscovia) on it, LOL.
https://www.euratlas.net/history/europe/800/index.html


I have a map from the 1900s with no Ukraine on it, LOL.
https://www.euratlas.net/history/europe/1900/index.html

I have a plan from 2026 with no Putin on it. If he is such a fan of history, he should become history.

Re peace treaty, a demilitarised zone sound like a good idea. 80 Km may be too much, I would go for 79 km. Jokes apart, peace after the invasion will mean nothing if there are not enough guarantees of this not happening again next time the oil barrel goes over 70 USD, which seems to be the RF preferred moment to create problems to everyone.
998  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: May 23, 2023, 09:45:57 PM
Summing up the arguments:
 
Putin's RF - The war could be avoided by letting Putin and the current Moscow government decide what Ukraine and the Baltic Republics can or cannot do. Primakov doctrine at full throttle.

US Falcons position (and Ukraine's): No, you cannot get it your way. US relentless pressure, as usual. Go to war, do speeches, create proxy wars and ride a horse half naked, but the answer is not.

Putin does no longer get to set the conditions and if he goes to war... I guess the US is very happy about it. Revitalises the NATO (which was pretty much dead), sells weapons, creates a new ally where there was not, expands NATO and in the way gets Europe and Russia to fuckup their economies.

When things get to this point, one has to measure carefully how big can bite and how big is the other dog. I am afraid that the USSR is gone. It's might is also much reduced (if you want to consider the RF the heir to it).

But this war is also the failure of the RF to present a credible alliance alternative - a soft power incentive - for many the former USSR republics and that has a lot to do with how the RF government has done business after becoming the RF, but also about how the USSR treated these nations.

Again, you're trying to turn things upside down in a rather clumsy way, quite in your style. I remember the events of 2014 very well, the base in Sevastopol was a real bone of contention. After the successful coup d'état in Ukraine, the United States' wet dreams of turning the Black Sea into NATO's inland sea began to rapidly take on the outlines of reality and this became a trigger for the annexation of Crimea. The current conflict in Ukraine is a natural continuation of those events. The US desperately needed a proxy conflict with Russia, and it got it. The only nuance is that when Russia realized that the conflict could not be avoided, it struck first and carried it out according to its own scenario. Do not exaggerate the role of Ukraine or the Baltics here, this is a proxy conflict between the United States and Russia. All other countries are backing dancers here, including the UK (which has its own ambitions, but does not have enough strength to realize them). Well, Ukraine in the unenviable role of the stage.

Seriously... If I were Russian I would not use Afghanistan as an example. You know...
In Afghanistan, they treat Russia with respect, they remember that it was an honest and worthy adversary. And the Afghans urinate on the American flag in the morning, because the United States deceived them, just as they will deceive Ukraine at the first opportunity.

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It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal.

Finally, at least we could agree, after months and months of posting silly, that the reason for this war is Crimea. Not the "Nazis", not the "Genocide", not "Referendums"... but the sad truth: an imperialistic fight for a strategic region that has already been the reason of previous wars. I hope this clears to path for others to understand where all this comes from.

On regards to the baltics, Poland, Romania, Hungary, Bulgaria,... the USSR made so many "friends". Without that support it would be impossible to challenge the RF in their own backyard. The conflict could be avoided, but it is nearly impossible to do so with a despotic government, a bunch of kleptocrats and an army that needs an enemy to prove that they are needed. It would have seem impossible to prevent another war in central Europe after WW II and then the reconstruction and reunification of Germany, but as they say "where there is a will, there is a way". Again, a problem of the RF failing to use soft power with Ukraine.

Oh, RE UK ambitions... well, I am afraid that you have forgotten all the rest of Europe. As individual countries, West Europe weights little, but they accepted that many decades ago and built the EU and a network of alliances in science, economy and education. Thanks to Putin, now that will extend to the military.
999  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: May 23, 2023, 02:40:53 PM

Do you think it will be possible to sell this to Western sponsors as a successful Ukrainian counteroffensive? Grin

Ukraine needs to try harder, otherwise it will soon have to swallow the Chinese peace plan, to which Russia will add a couple of points. And it will be just a slightly sweetened pill of unconditional surrender in a different wrapper.

To me it seems as though this thing has moved well beyond 'Ukraine'.  I think that I would say something like this if I were Russia:

 - We intend to end up with a more 'sustainable' Eastern Europe which works better for all parties directly involved (especially us), and is more safe for everyone world-wide, by the time this thing is wrapped up.

 - Most complex things of importance take time and planning.  This one will.

 - Everyone can see that the power structures animating the U.S. is increasingly desperate to get WW-III going.

 - We understand why they must instigate a broader war and the time pressures which they are working under.

 - We very well may decide that it is necessary to give them what they wish, but at a time and place of OUR choosing.

 - The process for exiting NATO is currently quite protracted.  We suggest that member states start that process without delay.


In early May, there was an entertaining one-hour conference hosted by the Canadian Foreign Policy Institute with Jeffrey Sachs and Ivan Katchanovski.

Here are a couple of quotes from there:
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The war could have been avoided because the Soviet Union and then Russia said over and over: "Don't expand NATO into Ukraine." If you want to know what caused this war, here is the explanation. The rest is details.

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There was a detailed account with time frames in a 1997 Foreign Affairs article by Brzezinski: “The expansion of NATO and the EU must proceed in stages. By 1999 Poland, Hungary and the Czech Republic will be admitted to NATO. By 2003, the EU will initiate accession negotiations for all three Baltic republics, and between 2005 and 2010 for Ukraine. All they do is play out Brzezinski's plan to encircle Russia in the Black Sea. That is the US plan. Putin said in 2008 - we want to cooperate, but don't expand NATO.

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In March 2022, Zelensky allowed a neutral status for Ukraine. And in Ankara, with the mediation of Turkey, negotiations began. On the basis of Ukrainian neutrality, rapid progress was made, but the US insisted on continuing the war, according to Naftali Bennett.

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The government of Ukraine has put everything in their country at stake with the support of the United States. This is a terrible adventure. Ask Vietnamese, Nicaraguans, Libyans, Syrians, "Isn't it great to gamble with the US as your patron?"

Summing up the arguments:
 
Putin's RF - The war could be avoided by letting Putin and the current Moscow government decide what Ukraine and the Baltic Republics can or cannot do. Primakov doctrine at full throttle.

US Falcons position (and Ukraine's): No, you cannot get it your way. US relentless pressure, as usual. Go to war, do speeches, create proxy wars and ride a horse half naked, but the answer is not.

Putin does no longer get to set the conditions and if he goes to war... I guess the US is very happy about it. Revitalises the NATO (which was pretty much dead), sells weapons, creates a new ally where there was not, expands NATO and in the way gets Europe and Russia to fuckup their economies.

When things get to this point, one has to measure carefully how big can bite and how big is the other dog. I am afraid that the USSR is gone. It's might is also much reduced (if you want to consider the RF the heir to it).

But this war is also the failure of the RF to present a credible alliance alternative - a soft power incentive - for many the former USSR republics and that has a lot to do with how the RF government has done business after becoming the RF, but also about how the USSR treated these nations.

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I am quite calm. And Ukraine has already become a laughingstock even for the Poles, who called the foray into the Belgorod region another propaganda circus.  Grin

ps If "Ukraine has nothing to do with this, this is Russian citizens performing an special military operation on their own", then how did the saboteurs end up with American MaxxPro and Hummer armored vehicles? Ukraine does not control US military assistance?

pps Kim Dotcom
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In Bakhmut a restaurant owner and 60,000 convicts destroyed an army that NATO trained for 9 years. Reminds me of the farmers in sandals that kicked the US out of Afghanistan. The US Govt spends a trillion dollars >per year< on a military that can’t win anything. What a waste.

The Poles? Poland is giving Ukraine pretty much anything they ask for including Migs-29 and tanks. Relative to their size they are the biggest contributor... do not believe everything you read.

Hummer and all that... oh I guess they got them in the same way that "Ukrainian Separatists" troops in the Donbas had Russian tanks and Russian military "advisors". It is just Russians fighting for their freedom with whatever equipment they can get hold of. Just like the RF Ukrainians in Luhansk.

Seriously... If I were Russian I would not use Afghanistan as an example. You know...

The Ukrainian troops in Bakhmut were not "elite" at all. There is ample coverage of where the well trained troops are, but you do not want to believe it anyway so... time will tell.





1000  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: May 23, 2023, 12:51:22 PM
See... no provocation, just unhappy citizens, like in the Donbas.

https://t.me/breakingmash/44237
Do you think it will be possible to sell this to Western sponsors as a successful Ukrainian counteroffensive? Grin

Ukraine needs to try harder, otherwise it will soon have to swallow the Chinese peace plan, to which Russia will add a couple of points. And it will be just a slightly sweetened pill of unconditional surrender in a different wrapper.

If you can sell Bakhmut as a "victory" I guess everything is possible, isn't it?

However, no need to sell anything I would say. Ukraine has nothing to do with this, this is Russian citizens performing an special military operation on their own, just like it happened in the Donbas. The RF was not in the Donbas prior to the invasion right? Or was it?

No reason to worry. Ukraine has gained the ability to reach any target in the occupied areas and well into Russia, but that is no reason to worry, Europe commits even more weapons, funds and training, but there is no reason to worry. F16 jets seem to be imminent, but no reason to worry. Drink Stolichnaya and sleep well, there is no reason to worry... ever.


Do you think it will be possible to sell this to Western sponsors as a successful Ukrainian counteroffensive? Grin

Ukraine needs to try harder, otherwise it will soon have to swallow the Chinese peace plan, to which Russia will add a couple of points. And it will be just a slightly sweetened pill of unconditional surrender in a different wrapper.

To me it seems as though this thing has moved well beyond 'Ukraine'.  I think that I would say something like this if I were Russia:

 - We intend to end up with a more 'sustainable' Eastern Europe which works better for all parties directly involved (especially us), and is more safe for everyone world-wide, by the time this thing is wrapped up.

 - Most complex things of importance take time and planning.  This one will.

 - Everyone can see that the power structures animating the U.S. is increasingly desperate to get WW-III going.

 - We understand why they must instigate a broader war and the time pressures which they are working under.

 - We very well may decide that it is necessary to give them what they wish, but at a time and place of OUR choosing.

 - The process for exiting NATO is currently quite protracted.  We suggest that member states start that process without delay.



Yet the RF decided to simply send in the troops. What could go wrong? Many times over... Putin is going to get the Congress Medal of Honor... of the US Congress.
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