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961  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: June 03, 2023, 05:08:39 PM
Ukraine has not crossed the border with the RF, just as the RF never sent troops to the Donbas before the war. Just like the pro-Putin "Little Green Men", they bought their supplies in the shops.

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Initially, President of Russia Vladimir Putin stated that the men in green were not part of the Russian Armed Forces, but groups of local militia who had seized their weapons from the Ukrainian Army.[18

Civilians have been evacuated, or they should have been, but I am sure that the Russians in the Russian liberation forces will target official buildings or military targets and not kill their fellow Russian brothers, just like the RF army does not want to kill civilians when sending missiles to Kyiv, right?

Anyway, you do not see it at all do you? The offensive has started just under your nose, preparation stage.  Putin has two options: Send troops to Belgorod and other cities or not sending troops.

If he sends the troops, the front is stretched by several hundred miles and the RF needs to move around Ukraine, long path, bad railways and roads, lots of fuel waste. Those troops will not be available stopping attacks elsewhere and will be very very far from the south.

If he decides not to send troops, then, oh well, seems like the Russian liberation groups could capture villages and cities at will, in which case Putin and the Army will be seen as unable to secure their own borders. What you are looking at is war 101 but I understand it may be too much for you, so breaking it down:

- Extend the front
- Create chaos behind the lines
- Degrade the enemies' logistics
- Create political dissent
- Gather intelligence, test defences, test your weapons.

... all by the playbook, but for now, very cleverly executed if you ask me. On top of it, Ukraine has managed to train the "fists" without loosing anything strategic, again, very basic stuff, but very well executed. Including blasting Berdiyans'k supply lines, fuel depots, refineries,... It seems like the US has been having some "Brainstorming" and run a few "planning workshops" with the Ukrainian army, uh?

Now, Ukrainians are rotating troops, it is likely that the more battle able troops will get some relief, while a couple of artillery brigades have been deployed north of Bakhmut, just in case the RF tries something funny. The recently formed armoured and assault brigades are not there in the south for a parade.

Now, ask yourself: The Kerch bridge is still open, but it is hanging by a string. That is a critical supply route, but also the only route to retreat if things go really bad in Crimea. Why? Do you think that Ukraine cannot blast it to a good end?

I have never said I am Ukrainian and I have never denied that I am Ukrainian, but good try.
In general, Ukraine spent the end of spring very poorly. The loss of Bakhmut was not compensated by anything, the counteroffensive on the flanks bogged down and completely lost its meaning. Attempts by cavalry raids into the Belgorod region under a false flag also did not have much success. Daily arrivals in Kyiv show the weakness of Ukrainian air defense, which cannot reliably protect even the capital. I think Russia's actions near Kupyansk, Avdeevka and Marinka are more like an offensive than what Ukraine is doing now.

Yes and no. They did exchange Bakhmut for time to train several brigades and arm them with western equipment and to have the battle there, which is as good as any other place. I guess it is a decent trade these new capabilities for city that is not really strategic and costed the RF quite a bit of one of the few units (Wagner) that has some ability to assault and assume losses without crumbling down (even if it is by killing anyone who steps back, so the only option is forward, very WW I style).

The expectations about "the counteroffensive" (such a noob term) have been set so high, that unless they invade Moscow, it will not ever be enough lol. But Ukraine, who only had a shield, now has fists and teeth. They only get one chance at getting this right and if it is still in preparation, it is absolutely all right, properly done should not take more than 3 months to execute, so still well in time and well measured to start a slower phase when the cold arrives. If there is any peace over the next couple of years, the situation on the terrain will mark what are the conditions for both sides.

Yes there is offensive action by the RF army in some areas of the Donbas, mixed success, 50m a day thing, much less than what they have been able to put together. Before something turns around, first goes slower, then stops.

EDIT: 2023.06.05 - It would seem that the "preparation" has been completed and something is moving in the front.... or maybe it is just a live fire training for Ukraine, who knows.

EDIT: 2023.06.05 - There are unconfirmed news of Wagnerites actually being attacked by the regular RF army! It seems even a ranked officer of the RF was captured.


962  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Africans truly gain independence from the West? on: June 03, 2023, 04:21:40 PM
No. The reason Africa can never be independent of the West is they still got that "dependence" mentality. For some of the countries, they suffer a lot of under development due to greed and selfishness of the leaders, thus converting resources that would have bettered the country into their personal coffers.

Although, no man is an island, but Africa depends on the West more than they do themselves.

Perhaps you're right, though people would say that dependence came from imperialism in the first place. Imperialism isn't so bad. Bringing civility to barbaric societies that, historically, couldn't figure out how the wheel works seems like a blessing in disguise  Grin

The problem is, some of these African countries failed to adopt the new technologies imperialism has brought: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsyHbj_SHGA

Cultural incompatibilities is the culprit.

So all the situation in several African countries is all due to the bad white guys? When is Africa going to assume responsibility for not being able to live in peace? You know what France did to the kings? Cut their heads off and start a Republic, with people voting you know?, just as the US had to defeat the most powerful nation of the time to become free. You just need to start being committed to gain independence because there is certainly many people who are trying to keep you where you are.
963  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: June 03, 2023, 04:10:48 PM
...

By the way, about that 'greatest counter-offensive' thing:  was that spring 2023, or 2024?  I may have gotten a little confused.


I nearly missed this. The Ukrainian offensive has started. If you ask me, I would not do anything other than what they are doing: degrading the infrastructure that supports the RF front armies, agitating and widening the front, so that the RF has to defend thousands of Km of frontline, instead of being able to concentrate, blasting fuel depots as much as possible to make re-deployment more difficult, testing their weapons and the enemies defences ... The basics, modern war 101. And yes, this costs money and casualties, but it is required.

Just before you say something silly (again), remember what the US did in Iraq before committing ground troops. All levels: morale, logistics, politics, international support,... all needs to be degraded before anything can be done and Iraq did not have many of the capabilities that the RF has (even if these are not half of what they claim).

Also, the F-16 or the Gripen fighters would be a really nice to have, but that will not be possible this early in the year.

But,... nah.. nothing is going to happen, sleep well, drink vodka and go to Belgorod on vacation, I heard is a beautiful place.

So 'daring' raids across the border to kill a few civilians, and getting chased out a few hours later when the home guard shows up, is the Ukroid conception of a 'Greatest Counter-offensive'?  Figures.

I'm not sure that such a strategy is going to save your nation.  Actually I'm sure it will not and will add significantly to the inevitable woeful endpoint.  But go ahead and do what you gotta do (if you are 'Ukranian' in the first place which I rather doubt.)



Ukraine has not crossed the border with the RF, just as the RF never sent troops to the Donbas before the war. Just like the pro-Putin "Little Green Men", they bought their supplies in the shops.

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Initially, President of Russia Vladimir Putin stated that the men in green were not part of the Russian Armed Forces, but groups of local militia who had seized their weapons from the Ukrainian Army.[18

Civilians have been evacuated, or they should have been, but I am sure that the Russians in the Russian liberation forces will target official buildings or military targets and not kill their fellow Russian brothers, just like the RF army does not want to kill civilians when sending missiles to Kyiv, right?

Anyway, you do not see it at all do you? The offensive has started just under your nose, preparation stage.  Putin has two options: Send troops to Belgorod and other cities or not sending troops.

If he sends the troops, the front is stretched by several hundred miles and the RF needs to move around Ukraine, long path, bad railways and roads, lots of fuel waste. Those troops will not be available stopping attacks elsewhere and will be very very far from the south.

If he decides not to send troops, then, oh well, seems like the Russian liberation groups could capture villages and cities at will, in which case Putin and the Army will be seen as unable to secure their own borders. What you are looking at is war 101 but I understand it may be too much for you, so breaking it down:

- Extend the front
- Create chaos behind the lines
- Degrade the enemies' logistics
- Create political dissent
- Gather intelligence, test defences, test your weapons.

... all by the playbook, but for now, very cleverly executed if you ask me. On top of it, Ukraine has managed to train the "fists" without loosing anything strategic, again, very basic stuff, but very well executed. Including blasting Berdiyans'k supply lines, fuel depots, refineries,... It seems like the US has been having some "Brainstorming" and run a few "planning workshops" with the Ukrainian army, uh?

Now, Ukrainians are rotating troops, it is likely that the more battle able troops will get some relief, while a couple of artillery brigades have been deployed north of Bakhmut, just in case the RF tries something funny. The recently formed armoured and assault brigades are not there in the south for a parade.

Now, ask yourself: The Kerch bridge is still open, but it is hanging by a string. That is a critical supply route, but also the only route to retreat if things go really bad in Crimea. Why? Do you think that Ukraine cannot blast it to a good end?

I have never said I am Ukrainian and I have never denied that I am Ukrainian, but good try.
964  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Target now being boycotted for their pro-trans childrenswear on: June 02, 2023, 01:57:13 PM
It would appear that Target is the current boycott to watch as people are unhappy with the 'tucking' clothing and pro-trans products being marketed to children.  The left has finally gotten the right to start taking boycotts seriously.  All it took was a man dressed up like a woman on a beer can.  Do you think this boycott will be as effective as the Budweiser boycott?  Target executives are already having emergency meetings to try and get ahead of this issue as they do not want their sales to reflect a 25% decline like Bud Light.

https://www.thestreet.com/retailers/target-faces-bud-light-like-woke-backlash-boycott-calls

Oh well, I think you are forgetting other types of (much more illegal) harassment to those who speak freely?

https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/florida-gov-desantis-signs-bill-targeting-disney/#:~:text=A%20bill-signing%20announcement%20came,and%20sexual%20orientation%20in%20schools.

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Under the bill signed Friday, special districts would be prohibited from complying with development agreements executed three months or less before new laws take effect that change how district board members are selected.

The bill also would give new boards four months to review any development agreements and decide if they should be re-adopted.

The Central Florida Tourism Oversight District also has filed a state lawsuit that seeks to nullify the agreements.

In a federal lawsuit, Disney alleges DeSantis and other officials are retaliating against the company, economically affecting its business and violating its constitutional rights.
965  Other / Politics & Society / "The West" narrative being amplified - "The West" is not a thing. on: June 02, 2023, 01:53:10 PM
I have lately been seeing quite a few post mentioning "the west" in several negative contexts. "The West" does not exist.

"The West" is an expression being used systematically by Putin and the official Kremlin propaganda to oppose it to a theoretically different "Eastern" approach. This is merely a justification for the War of aggression that the current RF government is waging in Ukraine.

The war in Ukraine is not a cultural war and the affairs of Europe, the US and the Russian Federation in Africa, Latin America, Asia and anywhere else are based on the interests that each country has. I am not saying this is a good thing, I am just saying it is what it is. Even the interests of different countries differ (e.g. the invasion of Iraq was not much welcomed by France, Germany is not happy with having to source their gas from expensive US, ...).

All those posts are becoming very suspicious because they were not there before the RF invaded Ukraine, so make sure you are not being played.
966  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Iran is about the get enough Uranium for a nuke thanks to Trump's "great deals" on: June 02, 2023, 11:47:40 AM
He said it, and he did it: This is the new underground uranium enrichment facility built by Iran. Under a mountain, several accesses and deep enough so that even the most penetrating missiles and bombs cannot hit it. Iran is about to gain nuclear capability in months if not weeks. Does anyone feel "the world is now safer thanks to Trump"?

Surely you didn't think the JCPOA would keep Iran from producing enriched Uranium? They wanted the deal for the cash and to lift sanctions. They were never going to stop their nuclear weapons program.

What politicians don't want to say is that a regime change is required in Iran. Those get messy and expensive. Instead, they'll throw cash at the problem and hope the problem goes away. Trump tried sanctions to try and collapse Iran, it didn't work. Taking out the Iranian regime would be the only feasible solution.

Surely you would not think that having no treaty and no right to inspect installations freely is worse than not having anything at all?

If memory serves me correctly the inspections for the previous deal were nothing more than a complete hoax.  Iran was enriching uranium anyway and we were looking like fools allowing them to do it right under out watchful eye.  Rather than let this continue, Trump used this as a way to broker peace, which he did.  Now instead of us being terrible policeman while our enemies broke our laws under our nose and prepared to attack us as the evil suppressive empire, we are at peace with them and watching them publicly setup operations.  When the time comes, a press of a button could eliminate their nuclear programs now, instead of them being clandestine operations built to undermine our inspections.

Your version is probably what the media will push though.

No, the inspections were there and the facility would have not been built. Calling it a hoax does not make it a hoax.

Trump did not have to broker peace, Iran was not at war. Trump did not broker anything at all, he just used sanctions to no avail. Wrong strategy.

No, you cannot eliminate their nuclear programme at the touch of a button, that is a thing of the past.

It is about time that Trump takes some responsibility for his actions. I mean for ANY of his actions in ANYTHING he has done wrong.

Anytime that he is caught lying, stealing, falsifying accounts, acting against the constitution and the law... even sexually abusing or paying for sex ... is just "it is the Democrats going after him". It is just plainly ridiculous.
967  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can Chat GTP destroy poker on-line gambling??? on: June 01, 2023, 04:09:27 PM
Reading another post, it crossed my mind that AIs and particularly ChatGPT could potentially be trained with a large samples of games played by poker champions and then put it to auto-play with amateur on-line players. If this is successful, it could mean the end of human on-line poker playing except perhaps for the world masters and the like. Has anyone tried? Would it be possible??
There is no way an AI will be capable to destroy online poker gaming. I mean, the game is played between two to ten players, each of them have different combination of cards, there is no way an AI can build a strategy out of thin air because there are a lot of combinations that its opponents may have in hand.
Imagine, an AI can beat a person in chess game because it knows opponent's pieces and knows where they are located. Because of that, an AI is capable to mathematically calculate every possible way and always act according to the best one but Poker is a guess what your opponent has game. If I have good cards on hand, absolutely no one and nothing will be able to beat me.

An AI robot may have an advantage in real-life poker matches if it's advanced and capable to understand the emotions of its' opponents as they change facial expression.

But poker is a lot about statistics, so you may not hit every round but it may be possible to hit more rounds than your oponent. Even if you are good 51% of the time you will make money in the long term. It is not that difficult and less for a computer to keep track of the many variables in the game and I think and Open AI could perfectly become the next world champion.
968  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamble Responsibly on: June 01, 2023, 04:07:19 PM
While some people may have experienced success in gambling, it is important to remember that these guys are often exceptions rather than the norm. The nature of gambling is such that the outcomes are unpredictable, but clearly biased towards the "house" so your only realistic protection is to either play games that are not of chance or to gamble with pre-set budgets.
969  Economy / Gambling / Re: is KYC data on Gambling sites safe? on: June 01, 2023, 04:05:22 PM
Of course, it is important to remain vigilant and informed about data privacy practices when engaging with online platforms, including gambling sites and particularly if you are using the ones that belong to less reputable jurisdictions. Use the forum, read and make sure you go for reputable sites with long standing presence in the forum and on-line. That is the best protection.
970  Economy / Gambling / Re: Are betting companies using T&C against their customers on: June 01, 2023, 04:02:58 PM
Yep, I have no doubt, the original purpose  is to prevent fraudulent activities, but it is very easy to use that to hit the user if they become too lucky with a number of restrictions and there is nothing preventing the site using them after the fact, after the winnings. The defence is to use reputable sites and denounce any unfair treatment in this forum to assess.
971  Economy / Gambling / Re: Question about casino, sports bet on: June 01, 2023, 04:00:13 PM
It is true that many of these sites can be accessed directly from a web browser dude,  but without the need for a dedicated application. These websites are often designed to be mobile-friendly and compatible with various devices but the choice between using a website or an application ultimately depends on individual preferences and the options provided by the specific gambling site. Some users may prefer the convenience and accessibility of a mobile application.
972  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Africans truly gain independence from the West? on: June 01, 2023, 03:58:25 PM
What about west Africa? Are they going also to gain independence "from the west".

Seriously, this post clearly an Eco of the Kremlin propaganda that aims to show "the West" as a enemy and as a block just to justify his aggression to Ukraine. The Russian Federation is, along with China, very active in Africa and creating more problems than any "western" country could ever think of. Quit the propaganda, people in here are smarter than this (I hope).
973  Other / Politics & Society / Iran is about the get enough Uranium for a nuke thanks to Trump's "great deals" on: June 01, 2023, 03:54:01 PM
During the Trump administration, the no-proliferation deal with Iran was scrapped "because it was not good":

hhttps://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/pubs/rp/rp1718/Quick_Guides/IranNuclear#:~:text=About%2097%20per%20cent%20of,remains%20in%20place%20until%202030.

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   About 97 per cent of Iran’s stockpile was eliminated under the JCPOA, leaving less than 300 kg of low-enriched uranium—this cannot produce a nuclear weapon. The cap on Iran’s low-enriched uranium stockpile remains in place until 2030. International Crisis Group analyst Ali Vaez notes weaponisation would therefore be virtually impossible until then

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Table 1: key provisions of the JCPOA [...]
Inspection of Iranian nuclear facilities[..]

And guess what did Trump do with it:


 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44045957

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US President Donald Trump says he will withdraw the US from an Obama-era nuclear agreement with Iran.

Calling it "decaying and rotten", he said the deal was "an embarrassment" to him "as a citizen".

Going against advice from European allies, he said he would reimpose economic sanctions that were waived when the deal was signed in 2015.

In response, Iran said it was preparing to restart uranium enrichment, key for making both nuclear energy and weapons.

Iran's President Hassan Rouhani said: "The US has announced that it doesn't respect its commitments.

"I have ordered the Atomic Energy Organisation of Iran to be ready for action if needed, so that if necessary we can resume our enrichment on an industrial level without any limitations."

He said it, and he did it: This is the new underground uranium enrichment facility built by Iran. Under a mountain, several accesses and deep enough so that even the most penetrating missiles and bombs cannot hit it. Iran is about to gain nuclear capability in months if not weeks. Does anyone feel "the world is now safer thanks to Trump"?

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DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Near a peak of the Zagros Mountains in central Iran, workers are building a nuclear facility so deep in the earth that it is likely beyond the range of a last-ditch U.S. weapon designed to destroy such sites, according to experts and satellite imagery analyzed by The Associated Press.

The photos and videos from Planet Labs PBC show Iran has been digging tunnels in the mountain near the Natanz nuclear site, which has come under repeated sabotage attacks amid Tehran’s standoff with the West over its atomic program.

Completion of such a facility “would be a nightmare scenario that risks igniting a new escalatory spiral,” warned Kelsey Davenport, the director of nonproliferation policy at the Washington-based Arms Control Association. “Given how close Iran is to a bomb, it has very little room to ratchet up its program without tripping U.S. and Israeli red lines. So at this point, any further escalation increases the risk of conflict.”

https://apnews.com/article/iran-nuclear-natanz-uranium-enrichment-underground-project-04dae673fc937af04e62b65dd78db2e0
974  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: June 01, 2023, 02:38:51 PM
The preparations - which consist of blasting depots and command centres in Crimea - is ongoing. The RF is corresponding with equivalent missile strikes, although the effect is somehow limited from both sides. I believe Ukraine is being marginally more effective, because the setup in Crimea was based on Ukraine not having medium range cruise missiles, which they now do, so it is not as prepared as it should have for this. One exception, it seems that the RF managed to damage 4 planes in an attack, which are important to keep sending Stormshadows their way.

All signs seem to point to an Ukrainian offensive in the south direction, but I would not hurry it as they will not get 5 chances to do this. Zelensky said "it has been decided", which does not offer much information on dates - as it should not for obvious reasons.
I think both sides are exchanging harassing blows to force each other into active offensive action. The situation is similar to a chess zugzwang, when any move significantly worsens the situation, but it seems that the pressure of external circumstances on Zelensky is stronger than on Putin. He promised to take the Crimea in May, but instead, daily strikes on Kyiv and every night an air raid. Let's see who has stronger nerves. Grin

Nah, RF is using all it's got in the frontline and getting 50 meters a day more, 200 soldiers less a day less. BTW it seems that Putin cannot keep the mosquitos out  of home? Seriously, this is they guy that will "protect the Russians" (from what I am not sure).

Regarding nerves... well, It think that you think this is about nerves. I think it is more about using mechanised brigades to break the frontlines. Matters little if you shoot missiles to nowhere in particular with zero strategic value and think that somehow this is going to win you the war.

BTW, according to your leader, that is just an "operation" if it happens in Kyiv, but is "terrorism" if it happens in Moscow. This guy should really make up his mind: either is all right to drone the capital of the opponent or is not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvWRiaXe78M

I will avoid the smiley, this is not funny.
It seems that much more rockets and drones arrive in Kyiv than in Moscow, satellite images and photos of eyewitnesses show traces of arrivals at the headquarters of the Main Intelligence Directorate of Ukraine. And where is the Patriot, who should protect Kyiv? Shares of Raytheon Technologies Corporation fell 12% in a month. Grin

Raytheon down? Thanks for the tip! !2% is not much though, they "skyrocketed" (note the pun) before in April. I would not take that as an indicator.

Sure, more missiles are being sent and intercepted over Kyiv, which will not win the war and anyway there is not much that Ukraine can do to avoid it, as the alternative seems to accept being ruled from Moscow which does not look likely. I am sure some psycho out there thinks sending missiles is some short of "strategy" but I fail to see any "return on investment" of launching them into cities with no particular military value. I do not see that resulting in Ukraine being weaker in combat.

Now, the question is not how many missiles can Ukraine deal with, it is how much of a support may Putin get if he cannot even guarantee that his own capital and particularly the richest areas are safe and that even in Russia (Belgorod and other nearby cities) the situation is anything but under control when there is actually no existential threat to the RF other than the very remote possibility (but a possibility still) of loosing hold on Crimea.

To sum up, if Putin is trying to reach a tipping point, it seems closer that the tipping point may reach him.


...

By the way, about that 'greatest counter-offensive' thing:  was that spring 2023, or 2024?  I may have gotten a little confused.



I nearly missed this. The Ukrainian offensive has started. If you ask me, I would not do anything other than what they are doing: degrading the infrastructure that supports the RF front armies, agitating and widening the front, so that the RF has to defend thousands of Km of frontline, instead of being able to concentrate, blasting fuel depots as much as possible to make re-deployment more difficult, testing their weapons and the enemies defences ... The basics, modern war 101. And yes, this costs money and casualties, but it is required.

Just before you say something silly (again), remember what the US did in Iraq before committing ground troops. All levels: morale, logistics, politics, international support,... all needs to be degraded before anything can be done and Iraq did not have many of the capabilities that the RF has (even if these are not half of what they claim).

Also, the F-16 or the Gripen fighters would be a really nice to have, but that will not be possible this early in the year.

But,... nah.. nothing is going to happen, sleep well, drink vodka and go to Belgorod on vacation, I heard is a beautiful place.

Does this sound familiar to anyone?

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The General Aggression Model (GAM) – Anderson and Bushman - looks to explain all types of violence, and not just that which is criminal, such as when a law-enforcement officer legitimately uses force, or a country goes to war etc. It recognizes both the characterological factors that are at play, such as a person’s individual propensity to use violence, and the situational inputs that exist in violent incidents, such as a triggering event, like somebody having a drink accidentally spilt over them, and the presence of others who may affect social status etc. The GAM also recognizes that there is often a “Violence Escalation Cycle”, which comprises of sets of interactions between the parties involved, based on the various perspectives that each hold e.g., party A spills a drink over party B, party B shouts at Party A to be more careful and watch themselves etc. Party A believes this is an overreaction and tells Party B that they are being unreasonable and need to calm down etc., Party B, now decides to push Party A, believing this is a justified and reasonable response to being told/ordered to calm down. Party A sees this as a complete overreaction and, unjustified so they push Party B back. In response Party B throws a punch at Party A etc. Somewhere in this escalation, the Vantasner Danger Meridian (that completely fictional “line”) gets crossed. This is somewhere around the point where the Sunk Cost Effect/Fallacy, kicks in for one of the parties. The sunk cost fallacy involves pursuing an inferior alternative because significant but non recoverable resources have been invested. In the case of the aggressive interaction and escalation described above, the inferior alternative is the physical fight; unless one party is clearly physically superior to the other both are likely to get hurt in the exchange, and with society as a whole eschewing violence as a means of demonstrating social superiority the rewards for most people are going to be slim. However, the more emotional and psychological resources each party invests, the likelihood of either walking away is significantly reduced. Most forms of social violence have a tipping point, a point at which someone is unable to back down, and this point can be reached very quickly, which is why aggressive spontaneous/social interactions need to be shutdown quickly.

I think Putin is investing in sunken costs. 101 mistake.
975  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: June 01, 2023, 10:22:51 AM
And while we discuss, someone, who could be Ukraine or not, has droned a refinery in the RF. I am sure Putin will class this as terrorist attacks, while the missiles hitting Ukrainian generators and electrical supply installations is just "part of the special operation". Alas, oil does not care much about the definitions and arguments... it simply burns if you bomb it hard enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsOdCBh96Vs

They know Ukraine is incapable of that and its terrorist act by UK, against both RF and Ukraine

https://www.economist.com/europe/2023/03/30/why-russian-oil-and-gas-is-still-flowing-through-ukraine

Yes, that is right. It is not like for example someone in Russia decided to send assassins into the UK in peace time and poison someone with a unstable nuclear isotope. The RF government and Putin would never do that because they know that the UK would eventually, even if it takes a long time, would be likely to take some form of pay-back.

The UK sending Challengers, Stormshadows and training Ukrainian soldiers is unrelated to any of this, because the RF would never engage in terrorism in the UK... I guess.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_of_Alexander_Litvinenko

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Alexander Litvinenko was a former officer of the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) and the KGB. In 1998, Litvinenko and several other Russian intelligence officers said they were ordered to kill Boris Berezovsky, a Russian businessman.[3] After that, the Russian government began to persecute Litvinenko. He fled to the UK, where he criticised the Russian President Vladimir Putin and the Russian government.[4] In exile, Litvinenko worked with British and Spanish intelligence, sharing information about the Russian mafia in Europe and its connections with the Russian government.[5]

On 1 November 2006, Litvinenko was poisoned and later hospitalized. He died on 23 November, becoming the first confirmed victim of lethal polonium-210-induced acute radiation syndrome.[3][6] Litvinenko's allegations about misdeeds of the FSB and his public deathbed accusations that Putin was behind his poisoning resulted in worldwide media coverage.
976  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: May 31, 2023, 08:12:58 PM
And while we discuss, someone, who could be Ukraine or not, has droned a refinery in the RF. I am sure Putin will class this as terrorist attacks, while the missiles hitting Ukrainian generators and electrical supply installations is just "part of the special operation". Alas, oil does not care much about the definitions and arguments... it simply burns if you bomb it hard enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsOdCBh96Vs
977  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: May 30, 2023, 10:08:55 PM
The preparations - which consist of blasting depots and command centres in Crimea - is ongoing. The RF is corresponding with equivalent missile strikes, although the effect is somehow limited from both sides. I believe Ukraine is being marginally more effective, because the setup in Crimea was based on Ukraine not having medium range cruise missiles, which they now do, so it is not as prepared as it should have for this. One exception, it seems that the RF managed to damage 4 planes in an attack, which are important to keep sending Stormshadows their way.

All signs seem to point to an Ukrainian offensive in the south direction, but I would not hurry it as they will not get 5 chances to do this. Zelensky said "it has been decided", which does not offer much information on dates - as it should not for obvious reasons.
I think both sides are exchanging harassing blows to force each other into active offensive action. The situation is similar to a chess zugzwang, when any move significantly worsens the situation, but it seems that the pressure of external circumstances on Zelensky is stronger than on Putin. He promised to take the Crimea in May, but instead, daily strikes on Kyiv and every night an air raid. Let's see who has stronger nerves. Grin

Nah, RF is using all it's got in the frontline and getting 50 meters a day more, 200 soldiers less a day less. BTW it seems that Putin cannot keep the mosquitos out  of home? Seriously, this is they guy that will "protect the Russians" (from what I am not sure).

Regarding nerves... well, It think that you think this is about nerves. I think it is more about using mechanised brigades to break the frontlines. Matters little if you shoot missiles to nowhere in particular with zero strategic value and think that somehow this is going to win you the war.

BTW, according to your leader, that is just an "operation" if it happens in Kyiv, but is "terrorism" if it happens in Moscow. This guy should really make up his mind: either is all right to drone the capital of the opponent or is not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvWRiaXe78M


~

You tricky guy. You've been visiting Putin, again. Lol. Grin

Cool

I think it was him, I could barely see him from the other side of the table...





The following facts are correct according to some sources, not particularly western apologist:

- More than 200k KIA or equivalent in the RF army.
- Bakhmut was a city of around 17000 inhabitants.
- It took around 1 year to take it, with advances of 50 m ... 100 m a day.
- Russia is shelling Kyiv with missiles.
- Bakhmut was the place were most losses have happened for the RF for now.
- Bakhmut is hardly a "win".

So, no he is not parroting western propaganda.



Bakhmut had 70000 inhabitants, which is easy to verify

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakhmut

Rest of your info is just as accurate, parroting it again won't make it any more true

Do you want me to look in your posting history? You got 1 of every 2 wrong more or less. The rest are not really right either.

Meanwhile... it seems that drones of unknown origin (Ukraine has denied involvement... so it is not Ukraine), have been targeting some areas of Moscow. I am not sure why they have chosen wealthy areas, where plutocrats tend to live... coincidence I guess.
978  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: May 30, 2023, 08:26:05 PM
The preparations - which consist of blasting depots and command centres in Crimea - is ongoing. The RF is corresponding with equivalent missile strikes, although the effect is somehow limited from both sides. I believe Ukraine is being marginally more effective, because the setup in Crimea was based on Ukraine not having medium range cruise missiles, which they now do, so it is not as prepared as it should have for this. One exception, it seems that the RF managed to damage 4 planes in an attack, which are important to keep sending Stormshadows their way.

All signs seem to point to an Ukrainian offensive in the south direction, but I would not hurry it as they will not get 5 chances to do this. Zelensky said "it has been decided", which does not offer much information on dates - as it should not for obvious reasons.
I think both sides are exchanging harassing blows to force each other into active offensive action. The situation is similar to a chess zugzwang, when any move significantly worsens the situation, but it seems that the pressure of external circumstances on Zelensky is stronger than on Putin. He promised to take the Crimea in May, but instead, daily strikes on Kyiv and every night an air raid. Let's see who has stronger nerves. Grin

Nah, RF is using all it's got in the frontline and getting 50 meters a day more, 200 soldiers less a day less. BTW it seems that Putin cannot keep the mosquitos out  of home? Seriously, this is they guy that will "protect the Russians" (from what I am not sure).

Regarding nerves... well, It think that you think this is about nerves. I think it is more about using mechanised brigades to break the frontlines. Matters little if you shoot missiles to nowhere in particular with zero strategic value and think that somehow this is going to win you the war.

BTW, according to your leader, that is just an "operation" if it happens in Kyiv, but is "terrorism" if it happens in Moscow. This guy should really make up his mind: either is all right to drone the capital of the opponent or is not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvWRiaXe78M

I will avoid the smiley, this is not funny.

There is a lot of debate about whether Ukraine should have defended Bakhmut which according to most military analysts is strategically unimportant, but it seems to me that the decision was still correct because it enabled Ukraine to secure the necessary time to additionally arm and train tens of thousands of soldiers who will participate in a counterattack.

It is true that Ukraine lost a lot of soldiers and equipment in that area, but Russia still lost a lot more because of the strategic positions of the Ukrainian army, which was and still is in elevated positions around the city, from which it prevents the further advance of the Russian army. In addition, advancing forward, the Russian army weakened its flanks all the time, and now this is becoming more and more apparent because the Ukrainian forces have all the prerequisites to surround the city and destroy everyone in it.

Bakhmut played a very important role in fully focusing the Russian forces to conquer it, but I have no doubt that the regular Russian troops will face a real challenge to hold it, because the "bloody musicians" who actually conquered the city are leaving the front, and considering the losses, it will take them months to recover.


I consider the decision to keep Bakhmut a strategic mistake by Zelensky and a personal fiasco by Syrsky. Ukraine suffered a crushing defeat in Bakhmut, doubly humiliating, which was not even from the regular army of Russia, but from the private military company Wagner with former convicts as the main assault force. Bakhmut is a broken symbol of Ukrainian resistance, the second after Mariupol, and Zelensky made him a symbol of resistance.

Of course, you can look more broadly and consider Bakhmut a gambit sacrifice in order to gain time to prepare for a counteroffensive, this will depend on the success of the counteroffensive. But for now Bakhmut is a crushing fiasco for Ukraine.

That is funny to say the least,it took the Russian side 1 year exactly and it is not completely taken,just a town of 17.000 persons the "second greatest army in the world" it took them 1 year to take about 80% of this town.Why don't you tell us the number of Russians soldier dead in Ukraine,they are well over 200.000 and this is the biggest number of personnel lost in a war from Russia.This number will grow while Russia is just doing what a terrorist state does best,hitting with ballistic missiles civilian infrastructure in the Kyiv capital.That my friend will not make Russia win anything and it will just prolong this war which in the end will have bad consequences for Russia,they are almost completely isolated as a country now and if they keep going this way,it is a lost war whatever happens next.

You're just parroting western propaganda, there is not a single true fact in your whole post

The following facts are correct according to some sources, not particularly western apologist:

- More than 200k KIA or equivalent in the RF army.
- Bakhmut was a city of around 17000 inhabitants.
- It took around 1 year to take it, with advances of 50 m ... 100 m a day.
- Russia is shelling Kyiv with missiles.
- Bakhmut was the place were most losses have happened for the RF for now.
- Bakhmut is hardly a "win".

So, no he is not parroting western propaganda.

979  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: May 29, 2023, 11:34:40 PM
The preparations - which consist of blasting depots and command centres in Crimea - is ongoing. The RF is corresponding with equivalent missile strikes, although the effect is somehow limited from both sides. I believe Ukraine is being marginally more effective, because the setup in Crimea was based on Ukraine not having medium range cruise missiles, which they now do, so it is not as prepared as it should have for this. One exception, it seems that the RF managed to damage 4 planes in an attack, which are important to keep sending Stormshadows their way.

All signs seem to point to an Ukrainian offensive in the south direction, but I would not hurry it as they will not get 5 chances to do this. Zelensky said "it has been decided", which does not offer much information on dates - as it should not for obvious reasons.

980  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: May 29, 2023, 02:56:19 PM
There is a lot of debate about whether Ukraine should have defended Bakhmut which according to most military analysts is strategically unimportant, but it seems to me that the decision was still correct because it enabled Ukraine to secure the necessary time to additionally arm and train tens of thousands of soldiers who will participate in a counterattack.

It is true that Ukraine lost a lot of soldiers and equipment in that area, but Russia still lost a lot more because of the strategic positions of the Ukrainian army, which was and still is in elevated positions around the city, from which it prevents the further advance of the Russian army. In addition, advancing forward, the Russian army weakened its flanks all the time, and now this is becoming more and more apparent because the Ukrainian forces have all the prerequisites to surround the city and destroy everyone in it.

Bakhmut played a very important role in fully focusing the Russian forces to conquer it, but I have no doubt that the regular Russian troops will face a real challenge to hold it, because the "bloody musicians" who actually conquered the city are leaving the front, and considering the losses, it will take them months to recover.


I consider the decision to keep Bakhmut a strategic mistake by Zelensky and a personal fiasco by Syrsky. Ukraine suffered a crushing defeat in Bakhmut, doubly humiliating, which was not even from the regular army of Russia, but from the private military company Wagner with former convicts as the main assault force. Bakhmut is a broken symbol of Ukrainian resistance, the second after Mariupol, and Zelensky made him a symbol of resistance.

Of course, you can look more broadly and consider Bakhmut a gambit sacrifice in order to gain time to prepare for a counteroffensive, this will depend on the success of the counteroffensive. But for now Bakhmut is a crushing fiasco for Ukraine.

That is funny to say the least,it took the Russian side 1 year exactly and it is not completely taken,just a town of 17.000 persons the "second greatest army in the world" it took them 1 year to take about 80% of this town.Why don't you tell us the number of Russians soldier dead in Ukraine,they are well over 200.000 and this is the biggest number of personnel lost in a war from Russia.This number will grow while Russia is just doing what a terrorist state does best,hitting with ballistic missiles civilian infrastructure in the Kyiv capital.That my friend will not make Russia win anything and it will just prolong this war which in the end will have bad consequences for Russia,they are almost completely isolated as a country now and if they keep going this way,it is a lost war whatever happens next.

Agree, there is nothing "humiliating" about the battle of Bakhmut for Ukraine. Loses on the RF side have been anything but "gentle" and more than half of these were not convicts.

You must ask yourself not if Bakhmut was the best location to defend or if it could have been defended  differently, you should ask yourself what were the realistic alternatives to setup the red line. Whatever city the RF invades is practically grazed to the ground, and Ukraine took the decision of having that in Bakhmut rather than somewhere else.

Just in case you are not hearing this from your official "sources", remember the name "Maroon Group".

Oh, the official media is not saying anything about Belgorod. Just give them a call and ask Smiley
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