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August 01, 2024, 10:02:34 AM Last edit: August 01, 2024, 10:51:25 AM by DaRude |
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BTW they can also see Letonia, Lithuania and Estonia... at European levels in most economic indicators. But sure... keep trying and rant about the US... is your time wasted.
Why are Monroe doctrine USA vassals all doing so poorly? Is it because they're not bordering Russia or China so USA/IMF can freely plunder them instead making them cannon fodder in exchange for few printed $$$?How come USA doesn't invest as much into Haiti or Honduras instead Poland? After all, its much closer to them Strategic allocation of resources. Exploit/take from where it doesn't matter and place it where it matters the most. Just as "freedom", needs to be exported exclusively to countries bordering or under opponents influence. Then propagandists can parrot how great things are in this region after they accepted freedom cookies, and other regions should surely follow them ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) . Pretty basic stuff, works pretty well until the global south catches on to what's going on, and aligns their interests into some kind of a bloc Malaysia Says BRICS Chair Russia Backs Its Bid to Join Bloc Yeah... those filthy US rich bastard strategically allocating resources for themselves... Oh, wait...Alexey Mordashov is from the US or from Putin's circle? I am confused. https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/2022/03/23/16-superyachts-owned-by-russian-oligarchs/16 superyachts owned by Russian oligarchs. Western sanctions over Moscow's invasion of Ukraine led to many luxury vessels being detained in Europe ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fassets.bwbx.io%2Fimages%2Fusers%2FiqjWHBFdfxIU%2FiNAth.Gf_ks4%2Fv2%2F1400x933.jpg&t=665&c=biW11nW3iZOYDw) Here are 16 superyachts linked to wealthy Russians 1. Eclipse, a superyacht linked to sanctioned Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich, was this week spotted heading in the direction of Marmaris in Turkey.
2. Solaris, belonging to Mr Abramovich, moored in Bodrum at the start of the week.
3. The Axioma superyacht, belonging to Russian oligarch Dmitrievich Pumpyansky, who is on the EU's list of sanctioned Russians, was detained by authorities after docking in Gibraltar on Monday.
4. The Crescent, which was seized by the Spanish government in Tarragona, Spain, on March 17. The ship's owner is not publicly known, although it is believed to belong to Russian Igor Sechin, head of Rosneft Oil in Moscow.
5. Ragnar, owned by former KGB officer and Russian oligarch Vladimir Strzhalkovsky, who is not on the EU sanctions list.
6. Tango, owned by Russian billionaire Viktor Vekselberg, who was sanctioned by the US on March 11.
7. Lady Anastasia, owned by Russian arms manufacturer Alexander Mijeev, is retained at Port Adriano, Mallorca, as a result of sanctions against Russia and Belarus issued by the European Union.
8. Valerie was seized by the Spanish government in Barcelona, Spain, on March 15. Spanish newspaper El Pais reported that the ship is linked to Rostec State Corporation’s chief executive Sergey Chemezov.
9. The $578 million Sailing Yacht A owned by Russian billionaire Andrey Igorevich Melnichenko was seized by Italian police in the port of Trieste on March 12.
10. The 156-metre Dilbar superyacht is owned by Russian billionaire Alisher Usmanov.
11. La Datcha belongs to Russian billionaire businessman Oleg Tinkov.
12. Lady M, owned by Russian oligarch Alexei Mordashov, was seized by Italian police on March 5.
13. Amore Vero was seized in the Mediterranean resort of La Ciotat on March 3 by French authorities. The yacht is linked to Igor Sechin, a Putin ally who runs the Russian oil giant Rosneft.
14. Quantum Blue, owned by a company linked to Russian billionaire Sergei Galitsky, the head of Russian oil giant Rosneft, was seized in southern France on March 3.
15. Superyacht Luna is owned by Russian billionaire Farkhad Akhmedov.
16. Triple Seven is owned by Russian billionaire Alexander Abramov, according to media reports. The yacht was last up for sale in 2020 for €38 million ($41.85 million). ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fres.cloudinary.com%2Fteepublic%2Fimage%2Fprivate%2Fs--lxAKlUux--%2Ft_Resized%2520Artwork%2Fc_fit%2Cg_north_west%2Ch_954%2Cw_954%2Fco_000000%2Ce_outline%3A48%2Fco_000000%2Ce_outline%3Ainner_fill%3A48%2Fco_ffffff%2Ce_outline%3A48%2Fco_ffffff%2Ce_outline%3Ainner_fill%3A48%2Fco_bbbbbb%2Ce_outline%3A3%3A1000%2Fc_mpad%2Cg_center%2Ch_1260%2Cw_1260%2Fb_rgb%3Aeeeeee%2Ft_watermark_lock%2Fc_limit%2Cf_auto%2Ch_630%2Cq_90%2Cw_630%2Fv1548594025%2Fproduction%2Fdesigns%2F4090428_0.jpg&t=665&c=EW_r6FAInH8wfA) It's like a fallacy 101 class with you. Instead of addressing the underlying issue or giving simple answers you just post anecdotal evidence with some eye candy pictures in an attempt to mislead the audience. You're like a bot that's simply unable to provide the answer to a basic question. Watch, i.e. do you think Ukraine should start negotiations with Russia? You will not to be able to give an answer and will just post more anecdotal evidence implying how great Ukraine and how bad Russia is doing on the front line, despite the obvious developments proving otherwise that even a blind can see. I did address the "underlying issue" directly. All the economy in Ruzzia and any controlled territory or nation are serving one purpose only: Keep the kleptocrats, keep Putin and keep the FSB. There is no way you are going to convince Ukrainians that they will be ok under Moscow's regime.You started talking about your view about the US being bad for the economy, I am pointing out how Ruzzia is certainly not the solution to a problem of Kleptocracy nor ranks very high in developing the economic base of anything under their boot - they are however very good at buying stuff for their elites. I have marked in red what you said and what I answering - I think you just cannot be missing nearly all the points, you must be trying to specifically miss the points in your answers. How long do you think that flies? You're too predictable ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) , can't answer anything, instead just parroting how bad things are in Russia. Unlike you I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. No one over 20 would believe you that things were terrible in Ukraine in 2013, to rewrite that history one would need to start brainwashing up to 5th and 6th graders, pressure them not to speak Russian (to prevent them from being exposed to all sides of the conflict), and then make up stories/textbooks/movies of supposed immense suffering of Ukrainians in 2013. But it would take another generation to see the results of that propaganda. Something like: things were really bad with evil Yanukovich, Ukrainians were starving on the streets, until one day this seemingly nice lady showed up out of nowhere with a bunch of tasty freedom cookies...happily ever after, which should serve as an example/template for other countries surrounding the opponent, rinse, repeat. Financial expansionism, US is good for Ukrainian economy just as Russia can be good for German/Hungarian/Cuban economy, and China for Mexican economy... That's what strategic in " Strategic allocation of resources" means. You just buy them off, works fairly well until you cross the red line and encroach on other's power national security leading them to an existential threat. But that's all old news, what's interesting is expected probability of things turning the way they did during the coup/revolution in 2014. That is, do you think this result was expected and the call was still made to hand out cookies, treating Ukraine as collateral damage, or was this a complete miscalculation? But whom am i kidding, you're forbidden to answer or provide your opinion on such topics, so let's see some more Russia=bad eyecandy from you. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.yourdemocracy.net.au%2Fdrupal%2Ffiles%2Fimages%2FCc7TNPmUsAAi3XH.jpg&t=665&c=IBlJDFCy7YSJ_w)
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August 01, 2024, 12:38:38 PM Last edit: August 01, 2024, 12:58:40 PM by paxmao |
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I can see you have read your handlers instructions to use images. Good dog. Here's one for your collection: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Faspeniaonline.it%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2023%2F02%2FLanza-3.jpg&t=665&c=JxZXChxDK5fRPA) Are we winning? How to say this... second place. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zois-berlin.de%2Ffileadmin%2Fmedia%2F_processed_%2F9%2Fe%2Fcsm_meme1_e8f070fa3d.jpg&t=665&c=ZT1eakPW0SIiMw) There are now multiple confirmation of f16 jets being active in Ukraine. The one-off (never better said) bonus to sign-off for the Ruzzian army is reaching the level in which even dumBAss may go an sign. Smell desperate, even the recruiters in Moscow bring people from the regions by paying a bigger bonus to meet their quota ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ...
BTW they can also see Letonia, Lithuania and Estonia... at European levels in most economic indicators. But sure... keep trying and rant about the US... is your time wasted.
Why are Monroe doctrine USA vassals all doing so poorly? Is it because they're not bordering Russia or China so USA/IMF can freely plunder them instead making them cannon fodder in exchange for few printed $$$?How come USA doesn't invest as much into Haiti or Honduras instead Poland? After all, its much closer to them Strategic allocation of resources. Exploit/take from where it doesn't matter and place it where it matters the most. Just as "freedom", needs to be exported exclusively to countries bordering or under opponents influence. Then propagandists can parrot how great things are in this region after they accepted freedom cookies, and other regions should surely follow them ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) . Pretty basic stuff, works pretty well until the global south catches on to what's going on, and aligns their interests into some kind of a bloc Malaysia Says BRICS Chair Russia Backs Its Bid to Join Bloc Yeah... those filthy US rich bastard strategically allocating resources for themselves... Oh, wait...Alexey Mordashov is from the US or from Putin's circle? I am confused. https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/2022/03/23/16-superyachts-owned-by-russian-oligarchs/16 superyachts owned by Russian oligarchs. Western sanctions over Moscow's invasion of Ukraine led to many luxury vessels being detained in Europe ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fassets.bwbx.io%2Fimages%2Fusers%2FiqjWHBFdfxIU%2FiNAth.Gf_ks4%2Fv2%2F1400x933.jpg&t=665&c=biW11nW3iZOYDw) Here are 16 superyachts linked to wealthy Russians 1. Eclipse, a superyacht linked to sanctioned Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich, was this week spotted heading in the direction of Marmaris in Turkey.
2. Solaris, belonging to Mr Abramovich, moored in Bodrum at the start of the week.
3. The Axioma superyacht, belonging to Russian oligarch Dmitrievich Pumpyansky, who is on the EU's list of sanctioned Russians, was detained by authorities after docking in Gibraltar on Monday.
4. The Crescent, which was seized by the Spanish government in Tarragona, Spain, on March 17. The ship's owner is not publicly known, although it is believed to belong to Russian Igor Sechin, head of Rosneft Oil in Moscow.
5. Ragnar, owned by former KGB officer and Russian oligarch Vladimir Strzhalkovsky, who is not on the EU sanctions list.
6. Tango, owned by Russian billionaire Viktor Vekselberg, who was sanctioned by the US on March 11.
7. Lady Anastasia, owned by Russian arms manufacturer Alexander Mijeev, is retained at Port Adriano, Mallorca, as a result of sanctions against Russia and Belarus issued by the European Union.
8. Valerie was seized by the Spanish government in Barcelona, Spain, on March 15. Spanish newspaper El Pais reported that the ship is linked to Rostec State Corporation’s chief executive Sergey Chemezov.
9. The $578 million Sailing Yacht A owned by Russian billionaire Andrey Igorevich Melnichenko was seized by Italian police in the port of Trieste on March 12.
10. The 156-metre Dilbar superyacht is owned by Russian billionaire Alisher Usmanov.
11. La Datcha belongs to Russian billionaire businessman Oleg Tinkov.
12. Lady M, owned by Russian oligarch Alexei Mordashov, was seized by Italian police on March 5.
13. Amore Vero was seized in the Mediterranean resort of La Ciotat on March 3 by French authorities. The yacht is linked to Igor Sechin, a Putin ally who runs the Russian oil giant Rosneft.
14. Quantum Blue, owned by a company linked to Russian billionaire Sergei Galitsky, the head of Russian oil giant Rosneft, was seized in southern France on March 3.
15. Superyacht Luna is owned by Russian billionaire Farkhad Akhmedov.
16. Triple Seven is owned by Russian billionaire Alexander Abramov, according to media reports. The yacht was last up for sale in 2020 for €38 million ($41.85 million). ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fres.cloudinary.com%2Fteepublic%2Fimage%2Fprivate%2Fs--lxAKlUux--%2Ft_Resized%2520Artwork%2Fc_fit%2Cg_north_west%2Ch_954%2Cw_954%2Fco_000000%2Ce_outline%3A48%2Fco_000000%2Ce_outline%3Ainner_fill%3A48%2Fco_ffffff%2Ce_outline%3A48%2Fco_ffffff%2Ce_outline%3Ainner_fill%3A48%2Fco_bbbbbb%2Ce_outline%3A3%3A1000%2Fc_mpad%2Cg_center%2Ch_1260%2Cw_1260%2Fb_rgb%3Aeeeeee%2Ft_watermark_lock%2Fc_limit%2Cf_auto%2Ch_630%2Cq_90%2Cw_630%2Fv1548594025%2Fproduction%2Fdesigns%2F4090428_0.jpg&t=665&c=EW_r6FAInH8wfA) It's like a fallacy 101 class with you. Instead of addressing the underlying issue or giving simple answers you just post anecdotal evidence with some eye candy pictures in an attempt to mislead the audience. You're like a bot that's simply unable to provide the answer to a basic question. Watch, i.e. do you think Ukraine should start negotiations with Russia? You will not to be able to give an answer and will just post more anecdotal evidence implying how great Ukraine and how bad Russia is doing on the front line, despite the obvious developments proving otherwise that even a blind can see. I did address the "underlying issue" directly. All the economy in Ruzzia and any controlled territory or nation are serving one purpose only: Keep the kleptocrats, keep Putin and keep the FSB. There is no way you are going to convince Ukrainians that they will be ok under Moscow's regime.You started talking about your view about the US being bad for the economy, I am pointing out how Ruzzia is certainly not the solution to a problem of Kleptocracy nor ranks very high in developing the economic base of anything under their boot - they are however very good at buying stuff for their elites. I have marked in red what you said and what I answering - I think you just cannot be missing nearly all the points, you must be trying to specifically miss the points in your answers. How long do you think that flies? You're too predictable ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) , can't answer anything, instead just parroting how bad things are in Russia. Unlike you I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. No one over 20 would believe you that things were terrible in Ukraine in 2013, to rewrite that history one would need to start brainwashing up to 5th and 6th graders, pressure them not to speak Russian (to prevent them from being exposed to all sides of the conflict), and then make up stories/textbooks/movies of supposed immense suffering of Ukrainians in 2013. But it would take another generation to see the results of that propaganda. Something like: things were really bad with evil Yanukovich, Ukrainians were starving on the streets, until one day this seemingly nice lady showed up out of nowhere with a bunch of tasty freedom cookies...happily ever after, which should serve as an example/template for other countries surrounding the opponent, rinse, repeat. Financial expansionism, US is good for Ukrainian economy just as Russia can be good for German/Hungarian/Cuban economy, and China for Mexican economy... That's what strategic in " Strategic allocation of resources" means. You just buy them off, works fairly well until you cross the red line and encroach on other's power national security leading them to an existential threat. But that's all old news, what's interesting is expected probability of things turning the way they did during the coup/revolution in 2014. That is, do you think this result was expected and the call was still made to hand out cookies, treating Ukraine as collateral damage, or was this a complete miscalculation? But whom am i kidding, you're forbidden to answer or provide your opinion on such topics, so let's see some more Russia=bad eyecandy from you. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.yourdemocracy.net.au%2Fdrupal%2Ffiles%2Fimages%2FCc7TNPmUsAAi3XH.jpg&t=665&c=IBlJDFCy7YSJ_w) dude... you say I am predictable while using the same cookie stuff like for the 7th time? Can you prove any of your claims about "Ruzzians" being oppressed? It is one of those things that are repeated and are still false even if you repeat them 1000 times. A very large part of Ukraine is Russian speaking and it has never been a problem until... well, Ruzzia started bombing the cities and regions which are actually Russian speaking. The argument itself is stupid, Putin is not the protector of anything, he has an economic and strategic agenda - the problem being he is not competent nor capable of implementing it and that is killing people in-mass. It is good that you are not trying to convince anyone and that you understand that every time you try to sell Ruzzia as something beneficial for Ukraine I am going to point out that Ruzzia is not even able to short out their own stuff and that everything it touches becomes "Ruzzian World". Unless you'd like to say here that Ruzzia's dominance over Ukraine would not ever be beneficial to the large majority of Ukrainians, in which case we can agree? At least it will show that you understand your enemy.
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^^^ Ruzzia's dominance over Ukraine would absolutely be beneficial to the large majority of Ukrainians. Many Ukrainians in Ukraine absolutely do not like Zelensky, the war that Zelensky is doing, and the fact that the US is behind the Zelensky push. But there are also those Ukrainians outside of Ukraine who are DEFINITELY against the war, and would much rather have Putin in control of Ukraine than Zelensky. Well, anti-Zelensky Ukrainians might get their way. Russia is legalizing Bitcoin to fight against the sanctions more easily. Lots of things, including BRICS, and now this, are weakening the USD. But the big benefits might be to Bitcoin hodlers, because this might bring about a GIGANTIC rise in the price of Bitcoin, especially if countries like China and India follow suit. Russia Legalizes Bitcoin For International Trade To Bypass Sanctions https://www.zerohedge.com/crypto/russia-legalizes-bitcoin-international-trade-bypass-sanctionsThis development is part of Russia's strategy to circumvent Western sanctions imposed following the invasion of Ukraine. The new law, expected to take effect in September, aims to address delays in international payments, particularly with key trading partners like China, India, and the UAE. Central bank Governor Elvira Nabiullina, a proponent of the law, announced that the first cryptocurrency transactions will occur before the year's end. The central bank will establish an "experimental" infrastructure for these payments, with further details pending. "The risks of secondary sanctions have grown," Nabiullina stated. "They make payments for imports difficult, and that concerns a wide range of goods." The legislation also includes regulations on cryptocurrency mining and the circulation of other digital assets but maintains the ban on cryptocurrency payments within Russia. The central bank highlighted that payment delays have caused an 8% drop in Russian imports in the second quarter of 2024. Despite efforts to shift to trading partners' currencies and develop an alternative BRICS payment system, many transactions still rely on dollars and euros via the SWIFT system, risking secondary sanctions. Nabiullina emphasized that these sanctions have complicated import payments, extending supply chains and increasing costs. This decision by Russian lawmakers aims to mitigate the economic challenges posed by sanctions and ensure smoother international trade operations. Anatoly Aksakov, the head of the Duma lower house of parliament, reportedly told lawmakers, "We are taking a historic decision in the financial sphere" by passing this legislation. ...
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I can see you have read your handlers instructions to use images. Good dog. Here's one for your collection: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Faspeniaonline.it%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2023%2F02%2FLanza-3.jpg&t=665&c=JxZXChxDK5fRPA) Are we winning? How to say this... second place. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zois-berlin.de%2Ffileadmin%2Fmedia%2F_processed_%2F9%2Fe%2Fcsm_meme1_e8f070fa3d.jpg&t=665&c=ZT1eakPW0SIiMw) There are now multiple confirmation of f16 jets being active in Ukraine. The one-off (never better said) bonus to sign-off for the Ruzzian army is reaching the level in which even dumBAss may go an sign. Smell desperate, even the recruiters in Moscow bring people from the regions by paying a bigger bonus to meet their quota ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ...
BTW they can also see Letonia, Lithuania and Estonia... at European levels in most economic indicators. But sure... keep trying and rant about the US... is your time wasted.
Why are Monroe doctrine USA vassals all doing so poorly? Is it because they're not bordering Russia or China so USA/IMF can freely plunder them instead making them cannon fodder in exchange for few printed $$$?How come USA doesn't invest as much into Haiti or Honduras instead Poland? After all, its much closer to them Strategic allocation of resources. Exploit/take from where it doesn't matter and place it where it matters the most. Just as "freedom", needs to be exported exclusively to countries bordering or under opponents influence. Then propagandists can parrot how great things are in this region after they accepted freedom cookies, and other regions should surely follow them ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) . Pretty basic stuff, works pretty well until the global south catches on to what's going on, and aligns their interests into some kind of a bloc Malaysia Says BRICS Chair Russia Backs Its Bid to Join Bloc Yeah... those filthy US rich bastard strategically allocating resources for themselves... Oh, wait...Alexey Mordashov is from the US or from Putin's circle? I am confused. https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/2022/03/23/16-superyachts-owned-by-russian-oligarchs/16 superyachts owned by Russian oligarchs. Western sanctions over Moscow's invasion of Ukraine led to many luxury vessels being detained in Europe ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fassets.bwbx.io%2Fimages%2Fusers%2FiqjWHBFdfxIU%2FiNAth.Gf_ks4%2Fv2%2F1400x933.jpg&t=665&c=biW11nW3iZOYDw) Here are 16 superyachts linked to wealthy Russians 1. Eclipse, a superyacht linked to sanctioned Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich, was this week spotted heading in the direction of Marmaris in Turkey.
2. Solaris, belonging to Mr Abramovich, moored in Bodrum at the start of the week.
3. The Axioma superyacht, belonging to Russian oligarch Dmitrievich Pumpyansky, who is on the EU's list of sanctioned Russians, was detained by authorities after docking in Gibraltar on Monday.
4. The Crescent, which was seized by the Spanish government in Tarragona, Spain, on March 17. The ship's owner is not publicly known, although it is believed to belong to Russian Igor Sechin, head of Rosneft Oil in Moscow.
5. Ragnar, owned by former KGB officer and Russian oligarch Vladimir Strzhalkovsky, who is not on the EU sanctions list.
6. Tango, owned by Russian billionaire Viktor Vekselberg, who was sanctioned by the US on March 11.
7. Lady Anastasia, owned by Russian arms manufacturer Alexander Mijeev, is retained at Port Adriano, Mallorca, as a result of sanctions against Russia and Belarus issued by the European Union.
8. Valerie was seized by the Spanish government in Barcelona, Spain, on March 15. Spanish newspaper El Pais reported that the ship is linked to Rostec State Corporation’s chief executive Sergey Chemezov.
9. The $578 million Sailing Yacht A owned by Russian billionaire Andrey Igorevich Melnichenko was seized by Italian police in the port of Trieste on March 12.
10. The 156-metre Dilbar superyacht is owned by Russian billionaire Alisher Usmanov.
11. La Datcha belongs to Russian billionaire businessman Oleg Tinkov.
12. Lady M, owned by Russian oligarch Alexei Mordashov, was seized by Italian police on March 5.
13. Amore Vero was seized in the Mediterranean resort of La Ciotat on March 3 by French authorities. The yacht is linked to Igor Sechin, a Putin ally who runs the Russian oil giant Rosneft.
14. Quantum Blue, owned by a company linked to Russian billionaire Sergei Galitsky, the head of Russian oil giant Rosneft, was seized in southern France on March 3.
15. Superyacht Luna is owned by Russian billionaire Farkhad Akhmedov.
16. Triple Seven is owned by Russian billionaire Alexander Abramov, according to media reports. The yacht was last up for sale in 2020 for €38 million ($41.85 million). ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fres.cloudinary.com%2Fteepublic%2Fimage%2Fprivate%2Fs--lxAKlUux--%2Ft_Resized%2520Artwork%2Fc_fit%2Cg_north_west%2Ch_954%2Cw_954%2Fco_000000%2Ce_outline%3A48%2Fco_000000%2Ce_outline%3Ainner_fill%3A48%2Fco_ffffff%2Ce_outline%3A48%2Fco_ffffff%2Ce_outline%3Ainner_fill%3A48%2Fco_bbbbbb%2Ce_outline%3A3%3A1000%2Fc_mpad%2Cg_center%2Ch_1260%2Cw_1260%2Fb_rgb%3Aeeeeee%2Ft_watermark_lock%2Fc_limit%2Cf_auto%2Ch_630%2Cq_90%2Cw_630%2Fv1548594025%2Fproduction%2Fdesigns%2F4090428_0.jpg&t=665&c=EW_r6FAInH8wfA) It's like a fallacy 101 class with you. Instead of addressing the underlying issue or giving simple answers you just post anecdotal evidence with some eye candy pictures in an attempt to mislead the audience. You're like a bot that's simply unable to provide the answer to a basic question. Watch, i.e. do you think Ukraine should start negotiations with Russia? You will not to be able to give an answer and will just post more anecdotal evidence implying how great Ukraine and how bad Russia is doing on the front line, despite the obvious developments proving otherwise that even a blind can see. I did address the "underlying issue" directly. All the economy in Ruzzia and any controlled territory or nation are serving one purpose only: Keep the kleptocrats, keep Putin and keep the FSB. There is no way you are going to convince Ukrainians that they will be ok under Moscow's regime.You started talking about your view about the US being bad for the economy, I am pointing out how Ruzzia is certainly not the solution to a problem of Kleptocracy nor ranks very high in developing the economic base of anything under their boot - they are however very good at buying stuff for their elites. I have marked in red what you said and what I answering - I think you just cannot be missing nearly all the points, you must be trying to specifically miss the points in your answers. How long do you think that flies? You're too predictable ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) , can't answer anything, instead just parroting how bad things are in Russia. Unlike you I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. No one over 20 would believe you that things were terrible in Ukraine in 2013, to rewrite that history one would need to start brainwashing up to 5th and 6th graders, pressure them not to speak Russian (to prevent them from being exposed to all sides of the conflict), and then make up stories/textbooks/movies of supposed immense suffering of Ukrainians in 2013. But it would take another generation to see the results of that propaganda. Something like: things were really bad with evil Yanukovich, Ukrainians were starving on the streets, until one day this seemingly nice lady showed up out of nowhere with a bunch of tasty freedom cookies...happily ever after, which should serve as an example/template for other countries surrounding the opponent, rinse, repeat. Financial expansionism, US is good for Ukrainian economy just as Russia can be good for German/Hungarian/Cuban economy, and China for Mexican economy... That's what strategic in " Strategic allocation of resources" means. You just buy them off, works fairly well until you cross the red line and encroach on other's power national security leading them to an existential threat. But that's all old news, what's interesting is expected probability of things turning the way they did during the coup/revolution in 2014. That is, do you think this result was expected and the call was still made to hand out cookies, treating Ukraine as collateral damage, or was this a complete miscalculation? But whom am i kidding, you're forbidden to answer or provide your opinion on such topics, so let's see some more Russia=bad eyecandy from you. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.yourdemocracy.net.au%2Fdrupal%2Ffiles%2Fimages%2FCc7TNPmUsAAi3XH.jpg&t=665&c=IBlJDFCy7YSJ_w) dude... you say I am predictable while using the same cookie stuff like for the 7th time? Can you prove any of your claims about "Ruzzians" being oppressed? It is one of those things that are repeated and are still false even if you repeat them 1000 times. A very large part of Ukraine is Russian speaking and it has never been a problem until... well, Ruzzia started bombing the cities and regions which are actually Russian speaking. The argument itself is stupid, Putin is not the protector of anything, he has an economic and strategic agenda - the problem being he is not competent nor capable of implementing it and that is killing people in-mass. It is good that you are not trying to convince anyone and that you understand that every time you try to sell Ruzzia as something beneficial for Ukraine I am going to point out that Ruzzia is not even able to short out their own stuff and that everything it touches becomes "Ruzzian World". Unless you'd like to say here that Ruzzia's dominance over Ukraine would not ever be beneficial to the large majority of Ukrainians, in which case we can agree? At least it will show that you understand your enemy. blah blah blah third-highest ranking US diplomat showing up with cookies supporting the coup of elected government and leading to events that resulted in 100s of thousands dead, is all just a coincidence and we don't talk about it, she was probably just vacationing there and just did her cookie shopping that day. Did i understand you correctly?
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Strategic allocation of resources. Exploit/take from where it doesn't matter and place it where it matters the most. Just as "freedom", needs to be exported exclusively to countries bordering or under opponents influence. Then propagandists can parrot how great things are in this region after they accepted freedom cookies, and other regions should surely follow them ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) . Pretty basic stuff, works pretty well until the global south catches on to what's going on, and aligns their interests into some kind of a bloc Those superyachts and money in hands of few oligarchs instead spread into general population is EXACTLY how USA banksters want it to be in all countries
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Soldiers in the front do not fight for cookies (well, actually the Ruzzians are giving monumental cookies for signing in). Again, you do not know enough about why your enemy is your enemy... or are pretending not to know. Strategic allocation of resources. Exploit/take from where it doesn't matter and place it where it matters the most. Just as "freedom", needs to be exported exclusively to countries bordering or under opponents influence. Then propagandists can parrot how great things are in this region after they accepted freedom cookies, and other regions should surely follow them ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) . Pretty basic stuff, works pretty well until the global south catches on to what's going on, and aligns their interests into some kind of a bloc Those superyachts and money in hands of few oligarchs instead spread into general population is EXACTLY how USA banksters want it to be in all countries You may argue about income distribution, just as many people in the US do. The problem is that you need income to have income distribution and under Ruzzia, all the income goes to Moscow. Apart, potentially anyone can do business in the US. There are thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people which have built their own large fortunes in perfectly legitimate business or even by investing consistently. That opportunity simply does not exist in Ruzzia - it is just the system dude, it does not allow people and countries to grow, chose and develop.
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Soldiers in the front do not fight for cookies (well, actually the Ruzzians are giving monumental cookies for signing in). Again, you do not know enough about why your enemy is your enemy... or are pretending not to know. Strategic allocation of resources. Exploit/take from where it doesn't matter and place it where it matters the most. Just as "freedom", needs to be exported exclusively to countries bordering or under opponents influence. Then propagandists can parrot how great things are in this region after they accepted freedom cookies, and other regions should surely follow them ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) . Pretty basic stuff, works pretty well until the global south catches on to what's going on, and aligns their interests into some kind of a bloc Those superyachts and money in hands of few oligarchs instead spread into general population is EXACTLY how USA banksters want it to be in all countries You may argue about income distribution, just as many people in the US do. The problem is that you need income to have income distribution and under Ruzzia, all the income goes to Moscow. Apart, potentially anyone can do business in the US. There are thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people which have built their own large fortunes in perfectly legitimate business or even by investing consistently. That opportunity simply does not exist in Ruzzia - it is just the system dude, it does not allow people and countries to grow, chose and develop. Some of my relatives live in the USA, they say you can't, for example, open restaurant without paying "protection" to local mob, same as in post-Soviet Russia Also, "socialism for the rich" takes taxes from ordinary people and give it to Elon Musk and such 2008 crisis, they bailed USA oligarchs, but let small businesses go bankrupt. Only difference is that USA pond is much bigger, so general level of fishes of all sizes is better
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Soldiers in the front do not fight for cookies (well, actually the Ruzzians are giving monumental cookies for signing in). Again, you do not know enough about why your enemy is your enemy... or are pretending not to know. Strategic allocation of resources. Exploit/take from where it doesn't matter and place it where it matters the most. Just as "freedom", needs to be exported exclusively to countries bordering or under opponents influence. Then propagandists can parrot how great things are in this region after they accepted freedom cookies, and other regions should surely follow them ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) . Pretty basic stuff, works pretty well until the global south catches on to what's going on, and aligns their interests into some kind of a bloc Those superyachts and money in hands of few oligarchs instead spread into general population is EXACTLY how USA banksters want it to be in all countries You may argue about income distribution, just as many people in the US do. The problem is that you need income to have income distribution and under Ruzzia, all the income goes to Moscow. Apart, potentially anyone can do business in the US. There are thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people which have built their own large fortunes in perfectly legitimate business or even by investing consistently. That opportunity simply does not exist in Ruzzia - it is just the system dude, it does not allow people and countries to grow, chose and develop. Some of my relatives live in the USA, they say you can't, for example, open restaurant without paying "protection" to local mob, same as in post-Soviet Russia Also, "socialism for the rich" takes taxes from ordinary people and give it to Elon Musk and such 2008 crisis, they bailed USA oligarchs, but let small businesses go bankrupt. Only difference is that USA pond is much bigger, so general level of fishes of all sizes is better Your relatives are mistaken. All across America there are clubs that are private. Some of them include serving food. Not all of them are set up as Private Membership Associations, formally, but they still hold that status. What they do is consistently break public law. They can do it because privacy is above public law in many areas, as long as people are not damaged or threatened. This is something that you can't do in Ukraine or Russia, or any of the Baltic States, or even in most Nato countries. You can do it in the UK to some extent, and in Canada. This is part of the reason why the US is using Ukraine as a proxy in this war. There wasn't any Internet communication at the time of WW2, or the people would have behaved differently. As it is, the people recognize that the US government is pushing a war in Ukraine. The people would take government people down if they tried to enter the US formally into the Ukraine war. Government is being cautious, or they would have jumped the US into the war long ago. All because of widespread communication in America. Looks like the Pentagon is trying to scare the people. Or are they really serious this time? RED ALERT: PENTAGON- FULL SCALE WAR IN 72 HOURS, NATO F-16s NOW ACTIVE IN UKRAINE - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHhGa8CJBEA.![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Soldiers in the front do not fight for cookies (well, actually the Ruzzians are giving monumental cookies for signing in). Again, you do not know enough about why your enemy is your enemy... or are pretending not to know. Strategic allocation of resources. Exploit/take from where it doesn't matter and place it where it matters the most. Just as "freedom", needs to be exported exclusively to countries bordering or under opponents influence. Then propagandists can parrot how great things are in this region after they accepted freedom cookies, and other regions should surely follow them ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) . Pretty basic stuff, works pretty well until the global south catches on to what's going on, and aligns their interests into some kind of a bloc Those superyachts and money in hands of few oligarchs instead spread into general population is EXACTLY how USA banksters want it to be in all countries You may argue about income distribution, just as many people in the US do. The problem is that you need income to have income distribution and under Ruzzia, all the income goes to Moscow. Apart, potentially anyone can do business in the US. There are thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people which have built their own large fortunes in perfectly legitimate business or even by investing consistently. That opportunity simply does not exist in Ruzzia - it is just the system dude, it does not allow people and countries to grow, chose and develop. Some of my relatives live in the USA, they say you can't, for example, open restaurant without paying "protection" to local mob, same as in post-Soviet Russia Also, "socialism for the rich" takes taxes from ordinary people and give it to Elon Musk and such 2008 crisis, they bailed USA oligarchs, but let small businesses go bankrupt. Only difference is that USA pond is much bigger, so general level of fishes of all sizes is better I am not sure where are you getting this from or if it has any resemblance of truth, but most of the US is open for business and mob-free. It is easy to open a company, offer services or create any type of business. In fact if probably easier than in many EU countries. There are millions of US citizens that started in middle class or even in low-middle class or - in some cases from nearly nothing and that no have assets well above a million and all built in their working years. They are mostly boring and do not appear in the TV. And frankly if you have some talent, you can make a very good life. I do not think there is any socialism in the US as I understand it. At most, free health care could be construed as such?? But yes the US system is costly and the people with the money hold power - but it is not infinite power and is not all built around the army and the secret service which account for a relatively small part of the economy. Ruzzia is not a recipe for growth for Ukraine, the whole system is just slightly more efficient than communism - sometimes less efficient - when the secret service controls the economy, it stagnates. If you have an army of that size, that influence and taking so much of your budget, you need wars and enemies all the time. To be honest if you look at population growth in Ruzzia... there is a big problem. So Ruzzia is not a good system even for themselves. Since they bank rescue which you can rightfully claim as bailing out the oligarch, certainly I did like it as much as you when it happened, the banks have much tighter controls and stronger regulation - so too big to fail now means too big to be left in the wild - let's hope Trump does not Trump-it. Assets wise: How many millionaires are there in the United States? We estimate that there are 23,684,985 millionaire households in the United States, or roughly 18.04% of all households. Earnings wise: How many multi-millionaires are in the US? About 8,046,080 US households earn $2 million or more, covering about 6.25% of American households. 5,671,005 US households earn over $3 million or more, covering about 4.41% of all US households I would not bet the house on exact figures, but this is around it. It is a system in which wealth can be made even if you are not "someone". You do need to have some base though, it is not like you are born from a crack addict and become millionaire at 30 - much easier if you can go to a good college and have some basic contacts.
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I would not bet the house on exact figures, but this is around it. It is a system in which wealth can be made even if you are not "someone". You do need to have some base though, it is not like you are born from a crack addict and become millionaire at 30 - much easier if you can go to a good college and have some basic contacts.
Not sure where you pull your data from, but Russia doesn't do that much worse than USA on social mobility index: https://www3.weforum.org/docs/Global_Social_Mobility_Report.pdfAnd since its WEF document, its probably biased toward USA
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I would not bet the house on exact figures, but this is around it. It is a system in which wealth can be made even if you are not "someone". You do need to have some base though, it is not like you are born from a crack addict and become millionaire at 30 - much easier if you can go to a good college and have some basic contacts.
Not sure where you pull your data from, but Russia doesn't do that much worse than USA on social mobility index: https://www3.weforum.org/docs/Global_Social_Mobility_Report.pdfAnd since its WEF document, its probably biased toward USA I wonder how Ruzzia data is not going to be Ruzzian biased equally on this. But anyway Ruzzia is in 39 in 82 according to your table, it does not mean that a territory controlled by Ruzzia is going to reach that level (e.g. Georgia is 53). US is 27, which only surprises me a little, as Universities are ridiculously expensive. But, it is evident that EU countries score mostly well, and that is where Ukraine should be in a decade - I think Ukraine should follow an Easter European democracies model (I do not fool myself believing that it ill become Finland). Is a much better prospect that staying where they are, getting to mid-talbe like Ruzzia or, what would be more likely, falling behind. Poland is a good example of what Ukraine could be at position 30 and Lithuania or Finland a dream scenario. Another question is if social mobility is a good measure in a country that does not grow, I mean, being rich in US is not being rich in Albania. btw there has been a massive prisoner exchange just yesterday in Turkiya. Some people want to think that it means something... I doubt it.
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The reason why Russia doesn't go in and fight Ukraine the way they could, stomping her out of existence, is that Ukraine is really part of Russia. Every move that Ukraine makes to hurt Russia, hurts Ukraine far more than it does Russia. Ukraine needs to stop actively fighting so that it won't destroy the little bit of itself that is left. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Speaking of which, apparently the non-existent Ukrainian navy has destroyed another Ruzzia submarine (I will confirm if something comes out). How much is a submarine? How long does it take to build a submarine and where can it be built?
Is not a single case, there have been a number of strikes in Crimea deleting (apparently) 2 x s400, but it seems that 1 stormshadow or another type of missile hit the sub in drydock. How much would that be? 1 Billion?
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Speaking of which, apparently the non-existent Ukrainian navy has destroyed another Ruzzia submarine (I will confirm if something comes out). How much is a submarine? How long does it take to build a submarine and where can it be built?
Is not a single case, there have been a number of strikes in Crimea deleting (apparently) 2 x s400, but it seems that 1 stormshadow or another type of missile hit the sub in drydock. How much would that be? 1 Billion?
You act surprised that there are losses/casualties in a war in 300 out of your last 500 posts in this thread. Why are you so surprised? Is it because your nation mostly bombed people fighting back with arrows and slings, so you're not used to casualties?
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Soldiers in the front do not fight for cookies (well, actually the Ruzzians are giving monumental cookies for signing in). Again, you do not know enough about why your enemy is your enemy... or are pretending not to know. ...
You keep parroting this but then fail to address the question why the cookies were given out to Ukraine in the first place before 100s of thousands ended up dying? And now it's time to repay back those cookies with large interest. You didn't really think they were free, did you? The agency cut the war-torn nation by two notches to CC, the second-lowest level above default. The agency said the outlook was negative, according to a Friday statement. “The rating action reflects our belief that the inclusion of commercial creditors (Eurobond holders) in Ukraine’s ongoing government debt relief effort is a virtual certainty,” analysts led by Karen Vartapetov wrote.
How much more land do you think Ukraine will have to put up to restructure this debt?
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Soldiers in the front do not fight for cookies (well, actually the Ruzzians are giving monumental cookies for signing in). Again, you do not know enough about why your enemy is your enemy... or are pretending not to know. ...
You keep parroting this but then fail to address the question why the cookies were given out to Ukraine in the first place before 100s of thousands ended up dying? And now it's time to repay back those cookies with large interest. You didn't really think they were free, did you? The agency cut the war-torn nation by two notches to CC, the second-lowest level above default. The agency said the outlook was negative, according to a Friday statement. “The rating action reflects our belief that the inclusion of commercial creditors (Eurobond holders) in Ukraine’s ongoing government debt relief effort is a virtual certainty,” analysts led by Karen Vartapetov wrote.
How much more land do you think Ukraine will have to put up to restructure this debt? And your answer fails to answer why paying a soldier the equivalent to 3 or 5 years of salary up-front, just to sign-in, is somehow ok for Ruzzia - whose is this war on behalf of? Ruzzians or... you know who? If you want some short of answer you need to make some short of question. Until now you have published a few oversized pictures and vague comments of a visit. Morozov meanwhile... https://youtu.be/q6h5ev4nlE8Bad news or may be good. The sub hit yesterday is the previously hit Rostov on don. Apparently Ruzzia decided to repair it.. in the same place ...so, unless this is psy-op and a masterful plan... it is simply the biggest stupidity. Not surprising really - is one of many.
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Speaking of which, apparently the non-existent Ukrainian navy has destroyed another Ruzzia submarine (I will confirm if something comes out). How much is a submarine? How long does it take to build a submarine and where can it be built?
Is not a single case, there have been a number of strikes in Crimea deleting (apparently) 2 x s400, but it seems that 1 stormshadow or another type of missile hit the sub in drydock. How much would that be? 1 Billion?
You don't even realize that Ukraine hasn't done anything. It was the US or Nato, and it was simply attributed by them and the media to Ukraine. Ukraine is long gone, even though there are a bunch of loudmouths saying she is still there. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Speaking of which, apparently the non-existent Ukrainian navy has destroyed another Ruzzia submarine (I will confirm if something comes out). How much is a submarine? How long does it take to build a submarine and where can it be built?
Is not a single case, there have been a number of strikes in Crimea deleting (apparently) 2 x s400, but it seems that 1 stormshadow or another type of missile hit the sub in drydock. How much would that be? 1 Billion?
You don't even realize that Ukraine hasn't done anything. It was the US or Nato, and it was simply attributed by them and the media to Ukraine. Ukraine is long gone, even though there are a bunch of loudmouths saying she is still there. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Provide evidence. Or is this like when you say stuff bout god and we have to believe it? Or like when you say anything else but do not bother to prove, argue or reason (like 99% of your posting)?
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Speaking of which, apparently the non-existent Ukrainian navy has destroyed another Ruzzia submarine (I will confirm if something comes out). How much is a submarine? How long does it take to build a submarine and where can it be built?
Is not a single case, there have been a number of strikes in Crimea deleting (apparently) 2 x s400, but it seems that 1 stormshadow or another type of missile hit the sub in drydock. How much would that be? 1 Billion?
You don't even realize that Ukraine hasn't done anything. It was the US or Nato, and it was simply attributed by them and the media to Ukraine. Ukraine is long gone, even though there are a bunch of loudmouths saying she is still there. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Provide evidence. Or is this like when you say stuff bout god and we have to believe it? Or like when you say anything else but do not bother to prove, argue or reason (like 99% of your posting)? I have been providing reports from people who know for ages. But since you won't accept them, what's the difference? Why should I give you more evidence? However, here is another one. As Ukrainian Defenses Collapse, What Can US Patriots Learn From The Conflict? https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukrainian-defenses-collapse-what-can-us-patriots-learn-conflictSince the early months of the war my primary argument has been that Ukraine is trying to hide steep losses in manpower and that this ruse would eventually be exposed. Bottom line? Wars are won by men, not by DARPA technology and suitcases full of fiat cash. A year ago mainstream analysts said Ukrainians troops (with NATO's help) would soon destroy the Russian military and party on the beaches of Crimea. Today, the establishment admits manpower shortages are a reality and they admit Russia is overrunning Ukraine's defensive positions all over the front. Soon, Russia will control the entirety of the Donbas region and beyond using attrition warfare. The "experts" have no idea what they're talking about, or, they're lying to the public on purpose. Either way their opinions are not to be trusted. As a student of history (and of military tactics) I can only relate to you what I see with an objective eye. I'm not in Ukraine and not on the front lines looking from both sides (and neither are the experts). I'm not privy to special intel and I don't have access to the war rooms in Kyiv or the Kremlin (and neither are the experts). My goal here is NOT to break down a play-by-play of the war, I only hope to point out the greater truths being uncovered as the situation unfolds. The kind of war we are seeing in Ukraine has not been fought by a western military since Korea. When it comes to industrial scale attrition warfare there are NO REAL EXPERTS in NATO still working at the Department of Defense. They don't exist. ...
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Congratulations to Ukrainians and allies on the arrival of F-16 fighters! I hope they work properly!
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