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801  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: August 12, 2023, 11:38:32 PM
I don't understand why he fired them. They were simply copying him.

Oh, I get it. They were becoming to much like competition for him. Lol.


Zelensky Fires All Heads of Ukraine's Military Recruitment Amid Bribery Probe



https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/zelensky-fires-all-heads-ukraines-military-recruitment-over-bribery-probe
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A new announcement by President Volodymyr Zelensky on Friday has further confirmed this pessimistic view of Kiev's prospects, as the government has fired all heads of military recruitment on concerns of rampant corruption. Zelensky has dismissed all heads of Ukraine's regional military committees as authorities conduct a sweeping probe into bribery allegations.
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Cool

Well, that is not unknown to happen, even in the US you could avoid the draft if you were one of the ones who could afford going to university. In other instances paying was simply legal - you could present someone to go in your place.

Now, I am sure that not all Ukrainians want to go to the front, however the fact that Zelensky got rid of these recruitment officials because they were taking bribes makes me think that he may actually be the right person for the future Ukraine.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/11/zelenskiy-sacks-all-military-recruitment-heads-over-frontline-bribes-scandal-ukraine

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Volodymyr Zelenskiy has announced the dismissal of all the heads of Ukraine’s regional military recruitment centres in the latest drive to root out corruption after officials were accused of taking bribes from those seeking to avoid the frontlines.

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Like you, they are competely obsessed and their only "mission" is to defend Putler. Like always in our talk shows, where always a Putin apologist is invited as a guest and their only part is to spread Putin's disproven propaganda again and again in German talk shows.
Like: "delievering weapons to Ukraine is fueling the war", "we need to talk to Putin", "Putin is misunderstood", "but NATO bad", "Ukraine needs to concede territory to Russia" etc. etc. etc...
These people are very annoying and a big joke (like you).
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All the arguments from this guy are really poor. He will just say something that is from unproven to simply false and then run smoke screens.

On the "Putin misunderstood" and "it is better not to support Ukraine to avoid people dying" he is so close to the official Kremlin propaganda as one can be.
802  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Advice when you are going a bit far in gaming and betting on: August 12, 2023, 06:29:34 PM

Even though gambling is quite different from trading, we cannot deby the fact that they have little similarities together in risk and loosing.

What similarities exactly apart from both being risky that you can lose your money which is normal with every other business. Gambling and trading is not the same thing in terms of purpose and principle. Gambling is based on luck and you can not stop a game that you are already losing to stop your lose. But traders can use a stop mechanism that they use to cut down lose. I think this is a big difference and not similarities because they are not driving through same principle.
In gambling there are also several settings to stop betting when it reaches a certain point where we make settings to stop the game automatically, but not all casinos implement that, it is also true that the two are very different even though both have the same risks, but when discussing losses there will be very different, traders even though they lose if the price goes down the number of coins remains the same and it doesn't run out it's just that the value goes down, while gambling the coins will run out when you lose

That difference makes the two very different because what equates the two is the risk where when a trader panics and sells cheap it means he loses money and value too, so that's how traders work, while gambling is definitely gone.

I am not familiar if there is even a casino that will set up the limits and if there is, it's within the user is the real battle is. The emotion is harder to control than said. Sticking with the said budget is like limiting your freedom to win back the loss.

I don't think this is even the gauge to measure whether you are going a bit far in betting. I think its how you behave after losing a sum of money is what defines going a bit far. If you sell your belongings like watches or jewelry in order to gamble again, thats where it goes beyond.

I guess the final gauge is when betting starts creating issues in you life. You may have already exceeded you comfort level by that moment and if not conscious you may get into further trouble with family. You do need to find that situation in which you detect it far before it has become such a problem and you can still call it a bad day and go home.
803  Economy / Economics / Re: How can we improve our country's economy by on culture or ecosystem? on: August 12, 2023, 06:25:23 PM
In this post I will explain how adding certain factors to our culture can improve our country's economy. Same important factor to consider is the lack of awareness and education both technical and fundamental.

First point: Financial Education
  • Making money
  • Money management
  • Growing money
There is a problem in the ecosystem or culture in Asian countries where children are taught to save their money while in European countries children are taught how to invest their money. This creates a complete culture shock.

For instance in our culture people tend to save their money by depositing it in fixed deposits (FD) where it will grow slowly over 10 years. Still if we educate people about investing in crypto trading or the stock market they can aim for higher returns in a month three months, or even a year. This change in culture will have a significant impact.

It's  important to note that the problem is not stress but rather mental health. People lack awareness and are afraid of taking risks which leads to the perception of stress. Stress occurs when people blindly follow tips or calls for trading which sets a fear in their minds making them believe that trading should be avoided altogether.

To tackle this issue we need to focus on the fundamentals of trading.
Fundamental analysisinvolves assessing various factors such as the company
  • Management
  • Environment
  • market
  • Team
  • Leadership
Additionally,  Technical analysis which uses
  • Charts
  • Graphs
 
Technical analysis has become superior to fundamental analysis. Companies that were once prominent may no longer hold their value in the market.  For example Tesla which is only 10 years old has surpassed the value of  Ford, a company that has been around for 100 years. This shift in dynamics has made technical analysis a full-time profession.

Though anyone can perform technical analysis regardless of their profession. Whether you're a doctor, engineer, businessperson, or housewife, anyone can learn technical analysis. Trading involves  Two concepts:  fire and grid. If the market is going up, grid comes into play and if it's going down fire comes into play. Technical analysis helps in understanding these concepts but it's important to remember that trading is heavily influenced by psychology.  Success in any endeavor is 80% psychology and 20% skills.Emotional control is crucial as excessive emotions can lower your intelligence. Technical analysis helps systematize the entire trading process, reducing emotional influences.

NoteThese were the analysis points and factors that we can add to our culture to improve our economy. Please let me know if there are any mistakes or if you would like to add any ideas or analysis to it.

Far too generic I am afraid. Many European countries do not have the culture of investing, they have the culture of saving and having for the rainy days stored under the bed. The investing culture is far stronger in US and in some countries such as the UK in which people usually have a bit more of an economic background and culture.
804  Economy / Economics / Re: All millions are from real estate. on: August 12, 2023, 06:07:42 PM
There are many people working the real state market both big and small players, it is pretty much a classic in most countries. Getting deals as you describe is possible but it requires lots of time an work, and knowledge, so it is not as simple as getting some financing and jump in the market. Also, some countries have a better streamline of services for renting and refurb than others.
805  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: August 11, 2023, 11:21:49 PM
Mentions global lizards, but doesn't answer the question, can't say im surprised.

You putting question marks on your sentences doesn't make then something to be answered. "Firehose" of loaded questions used to be prominent in Soviet propaganda and Putin has clearly evolved this style for the new intertubes era.

Russian Propaganda Is High-Volume and Multichannel

Russian propaganda is produced in incredibly large volumes and is broadcast or otherwise distributed via a large number of channels. This propaganda includes text, video, audio, and still imagery propagated via the Internet, social media, satellite television, and traditional radio and television broadcasting. The producers and disseminators include a substantial force of paid Internet “trolls” who also often attack or undermine views or information that runs counter to Russian themes, doing so through online chat rooms, discussion forums, and comments sections on news and other websites. Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty reports that “there are thousands of fake accounts on Twitter, Facebook, LiveJournal, and vKontakte” maintained by Russian propagandists. According to a former paid Russian Internet troll, the trolls are on duty 24 hours a day, in 12-hour shifts, and each has a daily quota of 135 posted comments of at least 200 characters.

But let me guess, these are the bad lizards, can't believe this article, Ukrainians did it.

Ruzzia is on the mindset of applying the same method that they use at home to turn the constituents in democracies against Ukraine. At this moment they are shouting over an over that the offensive is a failure. By force of repetition and with some echo in selected western media, they pretend to shape public opinion. It is not the first time and it will not be the last.

My hope is that people from Europe, US and other countries can discern at minimum their own best interests in all this.
806  Economy / Economics / Re: The impact of Russian and Ukrain war on world economy on: August 11, 2023, 01:22:39 PM
I mean, if the BRICS countries find a formula to completely get rid of the dollar (not currently possible), this will have a direct impact on the United States, whether in its financial or economic policies.
Definitely but the point is that BRICS is going to create an alternative to dollar that doesn't have the same problems so it doesn't have to get rid of the dollar. But since BRICS currency won't be used as a weapon like the dollar, next time US wants to steal some countries' billions of dollars, they will immediately switch to the alternative or the countries think ahead and diversify first so that US doesn't have as much money to steal.
It is also the next step in solidifying the New World Order, a multipolar world.

The only difference is that rather than allowing the American treasury department to print unlimited amount of banknotes, the BRICS nations would be doing that by themselves. The member nations of BRICS (India, Brazil, Russia, China and South Africa) do have their own currencies and in case of some of these nations, the currencies are looking very weak. We don't know exactly what will be the weightage assigned to each of these national currencies. Also, dozens of nations have applied to join the BRICS bloc. Will their national currencies be added to the mix?

Ok, and who would you trust more? Brazil practising some self-containment in money printing? India maybe?

In this forum of anywhere else, most people understand that money is about trusting. The US dollar despite all the failures and arrogance of the government, has been there for a couple of centuries doing wonderfully and it quite difficult to match that with any other fiat in the world. Perhaps the Swiss Franc, but it just does not have the markets built for it. Same for BRICS... you need very ample an liquid markets to make a fiat the dominant one.
807  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gender in Gambling [differences between Women and Men in Gambling] on: August 11, 2023, 10:28:16 AM
equality of women's and men's rights in gambling will never be the same in any country, at my place, everyone is free to do gambling, even many milfs gamble in offline casinos, but are they good women?  The answer is no, religious women will not gamble without exception, from what i have noticed only free women who are not strong in their religion gamble openly here, and when online gambling is increasingly widespread, i am sure there will be many female gamblers who appear either who are religious or not because of online gambling we can hide our identity so that other people will not be able to label us as a gambler (especially in families where strict religious rules are)
If we are going to talk from a religious point of view then those religions which prohibit gambling and consider it a sin, prohibit it on both men and women without descrimination. If you consider women who gamble bad women then men who gamble are also bad men. I know how you think because am from a culture that is not very different from yours. But as an educated person, you should start thinking differently. Stop considering women as a inferior species.

Some religions do make a difference between how women and men should behave (according to the religion dogma). Some religions have a very specific role defined according to gender on regards to working, care of children, etc. But, I am still yet to see any that is actually ok with: excessive drinking, gambling, stealing and disrespecting authority in general. That's for all genders.
808  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can Chat GTP destroy poker on-line gambling??? on: August 11, 2023, 10:23:59 AM
Actually, the general idea is that the result of a sports match does basically depend on the results of their previous matches and that is exactly what a gambler checks before making their bet. They do their research and analyze the past results and performances of the team that has higher chances of winning and then they also check if the players that were playing well previously are playing today or not, and there are plenty of other things to see.

But, the general idea is to evaluate the results from the past and see the facts, stats, and figures and decide whether the team can win or not. So an AI model should basically be able to do that evaluation pretty easily if it has access to the data that can be used to analyze the past of a certain team.
In addition, this AI model can collect data more quickly than manual work that requires more detailed searches. This may be an advantage offered by the AI model for bettors. However, I think many bettors still prefer manual work to use this AI model, especially since this AI model may not be able to find accurate information in a short time now.

So it's best for gamblers who want to use such an AI model to wait for developments from the developers until those developers release an AI model that can do that kind of work. And if an AI model like that can work optimally as expected, maybe it will help bettors find more accurate information that can provide analysis to bettors and choose a team or player who can win.

The AI systems do not actually collect the data, they are the opposite: consumer of significant data volumes, depending on the difficulty of the task, e.g. playing chess may require a 10^10 sample of games, driving a car could be even more... It is a different task to get the data, train the systems, get results, validate. These different stages do not use the same systems always.
809  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Success or Fail? - Talking about Gambling as a major income on: August 11, 2023, 10:18:25 AM
If they have experienced a loss before they can get a win, they should be able to stop immediately while they are getting a win. Especially if they will never know when they will be able to win again, and if they continue to play gambling, it also does not guarantee they can get another win. So it's better if while they manage to win, they better stop to calm themselves down.

This is the tricky part when it comes to gambling discussion for self control. It’s very hard to do that in actual compared to just a theory since human curiosity and greedy will always block our ability to think logically when we are on the influence of gambling entertainment.

It’s very easy to suggest for someone to stop when they loss but you will not understand the feeling when you are on the actual scenario of losing your money on the middle of gambling.

I think that a pro of gaming / gambling has to go well past that stage of self-controlling. It has to be taken as job which means that sometimes it will be fun and sometimes it will not be fun, but the player has to keep the same strategy no matter what. If there are any issues with self-control, the game is already lost even before the start.
810  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Anonymity is no longer a benefit of gambling with cryptocurrency. on: August 11, 2023, 10:16:34 AM
the anonymity in gambling is something that gamblers can't really think about because their aim is to win gambling or to have fun either. Only then will they perhaps think of that when they have a large amount of money to be released at the casino where they will have to submit a kyc, only then will they perhaps think of anonymity.

But for me that's not a big deal anymore because it's normal to ask for the kyc to release winnings in crypto gambling actually because identification is important

Oh no, there are many gamblers out there that are very interested in anonymity for many reasons. To be fair, some of those reason may be related to the origin of the funds and that is why the KYC is implemented in any site that wants to allow users from certain countries to be users. But there are many legitimate reasons for anonymity as well.
811  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: benefits of having mature accounts at 3 casinos (personal experience) on: August 11, 2023, 10:14:26 AM
Gambling casinos regularly create very lucrative bonus boosters and promotional offers to entertain players. As a player, it is important to ensure that the casino you choose is safe. Also, make sure the site uses data encryption protocols to protect your personal data This protocol is similar to the protocol used by major financial institutions. However, if your information is stolen, you must take necessary action. But using 3 accounts has many risks. Bet management can be problematic as not all casinos are created equal. Fraud is a major problem in the online gambling industry loss due to fraudulent transactions as a secure payment method the risk of this scam may increase. Hence using a low account ensures safe and secure transactions without risk.
Even if a person chooses 3 of the most trusted casinos and create accounts with them, I still feel it's better to simply have a single account and gamble only with that unless you are too rich and have a lot of money and can easily afford to wager a lot of money in all your accounts and make them reach VIP levels and enjoy the perks from all the platforms, but if you are limited on resources, it is a bad idea to create multiple accounts and different platforms and wager in all of them.

Someone who has a limited budget for gambling should have a single account and wager whatever budget they have allocated for gambling in that account so that they can reach VIP level on their account and get some perks every week or month, it will be useless to have more accounts and wager little by little on all of them.

It is a lot about which casinos and what you describe as a mature account. For example, if the site has decided that the account is not a VIP player or even if it is very casual and simply has been around for a long time, there is little advantage to having that account, else, if it is classed as significant player you may get perks from it.
812  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: August 10, 2023, 11:04:44 PM
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Bottom line, there is no proof. My personal view - Russia most likely did it. My guess is that Ukraine would not damage infrastructure that mostly benefits Germany - an ally - and could stop EU aid if detected. Yes, I will write it again, the NS benefited mostly Germany.
It not even benefitted Germany anymore. When the pipelines were blown up, Germany had decided to abandon Russian gas, so all the pipelines would have been unseless anyways even if they'd still exist.
Also important to note, that 2 pipelines of NS1 were blown up but only 1 pipeline of NS2. 1 pipeline from NS2 is still intact.
And - no surprise - shortly after the explosions, Putin suggested to open the remaining NS2 pipeline.

Putin offers Europe gas through Nord Stream 2 - DW - 10/12/2022

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The Russian leader offered to resume gas supplies through parts of the pipelines that weren't damaged by explosions last month.

Not suspicious, that one pipeline is still intact and Putin wants to start his NS2 project to keep Germany dependent and fund his russian war machine - not suspicious at all.

A few interesting points here:

- Germany decided not to use Russian gas before the war? I do not think so, in fact they have lobbied in the EU to decide that gas "is green".
- Germany would be fine with returning to use RF gas. I know, it seems impossible today, but I give 1 year after a permanent cease fire to go back to cheap energy.
- Germany does not depend on the Russian gas, in the same sense that I do not depend on the cheapest restaurant around to eat. It is just the cheapest, as long as they do not go on an invading spree.

And some recent news, difficult to ignore even for the Muscovites who live immersed in the official juice of comfort, unconfirmed but seems that there have been explosions in at least one airport in Moscow.

https://english.alarabiya.net/News/world/2023/08/10/Russia-s-emergency-service-reports-fire-near-airport-RIA

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💥 Tonight, a massive explosion in Domodedovo in Moscow, where a Ukrainian drone was shot down by Russian air defense the previous night. Eyewitnesses reported active air defense again, so quite likely a successful drone strike.
813  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: August 10, 2023, 04:06:34 PM
I concede, you got me, you're absolutely correct! I said that Ukraine did it, but Ukraine is a country and as such technically unable to perform terrorism, which only humans are capable of doing.

You seem to be enormously agitated by this pipeline that was made useless by your glorious leader long before it was damaged. What happened to the whole "let Europe freeze" strategy?

Anyways, even if "Ukraine" had done it, how the fuck would it be terrorism if they're at war with Putinstan... are we still pretending that it's just a "special operation" and it's super unfair for the special operators to suffer any consequences?

That is funny.The terrorists are yelling,look out,terrorist attacks against our country.As Zelensky said,the war will come to Russia,especially to those parts supporting the unprovoked illegal war at the maximum and it has started yesterday with a boom in that optical factory,of course the Russians said it was the boiler room taking fire but Ukraine presidential advisor said from the images and videos shown it does not look like it was the pyrotechnics who got fire claiming may be some other reason.It is good for the Russians to feel the same pain Ukrainians have so maybe they react and call to the reason to act upon and stop Putler.

Fat chance... I think Ruzzian society has "embraced the suck". They are mostly apathic and just either believing or pretending that nothing is happening or just accepting it like a fact of life and go about their business or to the front if they are enslaved enlisted to go.

For example, I saw a video of a big "boom" in Sevastopol... filmed by someone sunbathing in a nearby beach, and it was not deserted precisely, people just kept about their stuff... nothing new, no problem, nothing to worry about Vania. Or during Prigozin's "lobbying to influence legislation" with an armed column, people just went to the streets to see the tanks as if a carnival parade (well, short of was I recon).

I think they do not see how the change is possible, it could only come from the military and that is probably not a change. How could it happen? If the economy really goes down the drain very badly and there is a serious problem in the front.
814  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: August 10, 2023, 10:42:03 AM
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Finally we have something to discuss, it takes you a while to get of the irate responses and actually say something even if you have just one source and even if it is behind a paywall.

So, you base you accusation to the Ukrainian government of blowing up the NS because:

- A small vessel was around (definetly not at "the scene" which is 80 m below the water).
- That small vessel was rented by an Ukrainian company and sailed / operated from Poland.
- The vessel was in the area for 12 hours.
- Intelligence sources (take with plenty of salt) say that the US told Ukraine not to blow it up.

Anything else? Because that is not enough.
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You can pretend that you're an investigative journalist all you want, but unlike your claims made without any citations, these are not my accusations, you're not arguing with me but with Washington Post, WSJ, Spigel, Guardian, New York Times, CNN etc etc etc...(which are really not known to sympathize with Russia, in fact i don't know what major publication did NOT pick up on this story). So instead of posting your opinions on anonymous forum i suggest you write a strongly worded letter to all these newspapers and let them know how they're all wrong and that they should retract their story, because paxmao just refuses to believe it, and together with 1miau have another theory of how it all went down with Putin on the narwhal. Post a link and I'll gladly read it if you'll get them to published it. I hate to be the one breaking it to you this way, but without citing more credible sources, no one really cares if an anonymous user is not convinced that the world is spherical.

Quote from: paxmao
Again, making things up - I did not ever say I am a journalist.

I do not make any claim, I clearly stated that I am expressing my view based on my reasoning on who has to gain from the event. I am not blind and I understand that there are other reasons why this could have been done by others. The Nordstream by-passed Ukraine, that is there for everyone to see.

However you are effectively making a claim stating that there is "irrefutable proof" - that is not an view or an opinion, is an statement of facts -  thus you do have to provide such evidence. But you cannot, because whether you like it or not secret ops are mostly secret unless Snowden shows himself around.

I concede, you got me, you're absolutely correct! I said that Ukraine did it, but Ukraine is a country and as such technically unable to perform terrorism, which only humans are capable of doing.

I have no interest whatsoever in "getting you", I do have interest in providing the right information (better, information that is right). You did not just say "Ukraine did it" (which I freely translate for the Ukrainian Government organised it), you said there was irrefutable proof of it. You showed some articles that mention very loose connections and mostly suspicions (even the titles of some say "suspicion").

Bottom line, there is no proof. My personal view - Russia most likely did it. My guess is that Ukraine would not damage infrastructure that mostly benefits Germany - an ally - and could stop EU aid if detected. Yes, I will write it again, the NS benefited mostly Germany.
815  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: August 09, 2023, 09:31:37 AM
Tip about the boat came from the source inside of Ukraine of one of the EU intelligence agencies, boat was placed at the scene of explosions, explosive residue on the pipe matched to the residue found on the boat, 6 members of the sabotage crew are Ukrainian citizens. travel agency booking the boat was founded and controlled by Ukrainians with Polish bank accounts accountants and paralegals. CIA director and German intelligence officers are on record saying that evidence don't point to Russia. And found DNA matched (through his son in Germany) to a 26yr old Ukrainian soldier (not yet identified), who left Germany for Ukraine. At this point too many people are involved, and with every fifth person in Germany supporting AfD (and presumably many more in police/military circles) that they won't be able to keep this under covers. But nothing gets past your critical thinking, because through your hallucinations you just know that it was aliens Putin placed those explosives himself while riding a trained narwhal, you should contact all these publications immediately with your theory, so they can all publish corrections!

You've demonstrated that you're not even able to read your own quotes, to notice that most don't have "looks like" in them. So i don't really expect you to be able to read this either. And I'm sorry, but I just don't have the coloring pencils to draw it out in color pictures for you. But continue, do tell us what else looks like "Russia did it" to you, after all with your track record we're all very interested in hearing your next, spot on unbiased, carefully cited, predictions.
Unfortunately, your claims are (once again) without any solid proof. There's exactly no proof pointing out that Ukraine is behind it. This boat story is just too weak and doesn't make really sense, like the expert in the ZDF article has explained. But you just ignore it...
Everything could be faked by Russia to have a false flag, where Ukraine is accused.
No wonder, pro-russian trolls are always jumping on that unproven story.
You are a good example for that.
After 1.5 years of war against Ukraine, Putin knows he can trust his apologists.  Cheesy

It's a big shame that you are trying so vehemently to discredit Ukraine and throw Ukraine under the bus.
It's already your 5th post, where you are trying to accuse Ukraine for something, you have no valid proof for and Ukraine has no profit to do so. It's just pointless for Ukraine to blow up this useless pipeline, where already way before it happened, everyone knew, that NordStream 2 would never deliever any gas to Germany as long as Putin or his war crimes friends are waging war in Ukraine. No need for any western actor to blow it up...
And when the war is over, Germany will have 100% renewable energy and just don't need any Russian gas.
Russia has failed miserably.
Deal with it.   Wink



Another anonymous forum investigative journalist uncovering false flag operations without a single citation. You funny, yes yes now Putin controls all western media. It's your right not to believe what every single major newspaper says, or their quotes of gov officials. Just don't expect anyone to believe your silly conspiracy theories. I fully expect Germany to issue arrest warrants for those Ukrainians soon, then you'll have two options either claim they're RU double secret agents or Putin brainwashed all Germans with his alien ray gun. What's even more hilarious is that you're not even original in this thought, as covering your ears and ignoring everything is pretty much the current official position  Grin

Biden administration officials now privately concede there is no evidence that conclusively points to Moscow’s involvement. But publicly they have deflected questions about who might be responsible. European officials in several countries have quietly suggested that Ukraine was behind the attack but have resisted publicly saying so over fears that blaming Kyiv could fracture the alliance against Russia. At gatherings of European and NATO policymakers, officials have settled into a rhythm; as one senior European diplomat said recently, “Don’t talk about Nord Stream.

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The European intelligence made clear that the would-be attackers were not rogue operatives. All those involved reported directly to Gen. Valery Zaluzhny, Ukraine’s highest-ranking military officer, who was put in charge so that the nation’s president, Volodymyr Zelensky, wouldn’t know about the operation, the intelligence report said.





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Finally we have something to discuss, it takes you a while to get of the irate responses and actually say something even if you have just one source and even if it is behind a paywall.

So, you base you accusation to the Ukrainian government of blowing up the NS because:

- A small vessel was around (definetly not at "the scene" which is 80 m below the water).
- That small vessel was rented by an Ukrainian company and sailed / operated from Poland.
- The vessel was in the area for 12 hours.
- Intelligence sources (take with plenty of salt) say that the US told Ukraine not to blow it up.

Anything else? Because that is not enough.
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You can pretend that you're an investigative journalist all you want, but unlike your claims made without any citations, these are not my accusations, you're not arguing with me but with Washington Post, WSJ, Spigel, Guardian, New York Times, CNN etc etc etc...(which are really not known to sympathize with Russia, in fact i don't know what major publication did NOT pick up on this story). So instead of posting your opinions on anonymous forum i suggest you write a strongly worded letter to all these newspapers and let them know how they're all wrong and that they should retract their story, because paxmao just refuses to believe it, and together with 1miau have another theory of how it all went down with Putin on the narwhal. Post a link and I'll gladly read it if you'll get them to published it. I hate to be the one breaking it to you this way, but without citing more credible sources, no one really cares if an anonymous user is not convinced that the world is spherical.

Again, making things up - I did not ever say I am a journalist.

I do not make any claim, I clearly stated that I am expressing my view based on my reasoning on who has to gain from the event. I am not blind and I understand that there are other reasons why this could have been done by others. The Nordstream by-passed Ukraine, that is there for everyone to see.

However you are effectively making a claim stating that there is "irrefutable proof" - that is not an view or an opinion, is an statement of facts -  thus you do have to provide such evidence. But you cannot, because whether you like it or not secret ops are mostly secret unless Snowden shows himself around.
816  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: August 08, 2023, 11:39:07 PM
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And are you seriously calling for mass targeted killing of civilians at a huge scale towards the end there?
Don't waste your time on this character, this is a walking collection of propaganda clichés. A typical Ukrainian neo-Nazi, with every statement he makes an aggressive anti-advertisement to the Zelensky regime. The only benefit of his statements is that it becomes clear why Ukraine needs denazification.

You enjoying the new drones that I predicted to hit Moscow just one day ago and today it was the truth.Russia how funny they are,one of their generals said some time before that hardly any sky is shielded more than that of Moscow yet drones are hitting the financial district,Russia is incapable of protecting their own citizens and the so called elite which work in that institution that was hit.Ukraine never forget any war crimes Russia has made and will make them pay as Zelensky says it is only a natural process that the war will be felt inside Russia,inside Moscow.I am waiting for more strikes and devastation against a country which started a war out of nowhere and this is the end of malevolent countries.
I'm trying to find any military reason for these drone attacks on the business center, but unfortunately I can't. And a repeated strike on the same building in Moscow City refutes the version of the Russian Defense Ministry that the first drone was suppressed by electronic warfare, these were targeted Ukrainian attacks on a skyscraper in Moscow, in which there are no military facilities. Simply put, this is pure terrorist attack.

I understand why Ukraine resorts to terrorist tactics - because its counter-offensive is failing. I understand, but I don't condone it. It is impossible to defend democratic values by terrorist methods. Soon even its most zealous supporters in the West will turn their backs on Ukraine, because support for Ukraine already smells very shitty.

No.It is because Russia continuously strikes civilian targets not later than yesterday killing an 10 year old girl.This is a response to Russian terror and it is only natural that Russia feels the same what Ukrainians are feeling because of Russian barbarism.The Russians claim they hit no civilian targets yet today they hit a dormitory in Kharkiv,luckily without dead persons.Russian have killed children,have made mass graves and systematically hit civilian targets in Ukrainian cities so it is only a natural response and what I find the most funny is terrorists (Russia are the true ones starting a war out of nowhere and killing civilians as a sign of desperation in the battlefield,stalled invasion) are calling the victim who tries to defend a terrorist  Grin.

@Branko , the US clearly has ask for forgiveness although it is not worthy after the damage they have done yet they have spend billions in help rebuilding Iraq after then,not justifying them,it was a mistake and they ask for forgiveness.
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You keep moronically tip-toeing around a serious topic. Simple question, do you condemn attacks on civilians in RF without military justification (hint: response to what they did is NOT military justification)?

Oh, yes, let's not tiptoe... do you condemn Ruzzian attacks in schools, restaurants, civilian buildings including churches, hospitals, entertainment and shopping places?

I absolutely deplore any targeted attack on civilians without military justification, and fully condemn any idiot even hinting or joking about committing such atrocities. Furthermore, I think any civilian casualty is a tragedy be they Afghans, Iraqis, Yugoslavs, Libyans, Ukrainians, Yemenis or whatever, and only a deplorable waste of a human life would gloat or encourage such heinous crimes, no ifs and buts about this. There, super easy answer. Now to the big question, why such basic statement that is self evident to overwhelming majority of humans is so hard for UA supporters on this forum to say?

   There are millions of Ukrainians living/working in Russia as well as millions of mixed marriages/families. Despite all of the danger Russians are still gladly travel to Crimea with their families for summer vacation where majority of population was born in Ukraine/Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic. Tens of thousands born in Ukrain/UASSR are currently fighting on the side of Russia (old DRP/LRP) against current Ukrainian regime, and since the start of the war more Ukrainians refugees went to Russia than to any other country. As of 31July2023 2086 civilians were killed on the RU controlled territory and 7283 on UA controlled. So attacking force resulted in 249% more civilian losses on the UA side, from what i have gathered RU launched over 5000 missiles and 2000 drones (as well as significantly more artillery shells, and MLRS rockets) for every incoming missile/shahed you want to intercept on average of more than 1.0 air defense missile needs to be launched (defense in depth). with some air defense missiles deciding to go as far as Poland. Now seeing these numbers compare it to other conflicts, and then tell us if data shows any systematic targeting of civilian population (hint it shows exact opposite, civilian looses are much lower than expected for conflict of this scale)



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Blowing the Nord Stream II looks like the RF army doing to kind of "make a point" on regards to EU aid and aligns well with a country that is under a Junta.

In my view, this is an act of war.
The Orc army could have chosen any other target right? A bridge in France, a factory in Germany... Why do you think they would hit NS II? The answer is very simple: it is not in NATO territory and does not grant a NATO mobilisation which would end any expectation of even a technical "victory" in the invasion.

Now, what does YOUR critical thinking tell you about this?


So how about for some accountability of claims, knowing what we know now that there is irrefutable evidence of explosive residue leading directly to UA soldiers with information from EU that Gen. Zaluzhny was involved, are you going to stand by your words and still think that this was an act of war from Ukraine on Germany? Or going to backpedal on this? If you were mislead yourself, and thus inadvertently mislead other readers on this forum, what lead you to come to such wrong conclusion, or were you the one intentionally doing misleading? Guess in that case you'll just ignore everything and just jump on whatever is in the headlines this hour.

There is no irrefutable evidence. You are just stating non-facts without any evidence.

Please notice the "looks like" in my text before you try to accuse me of anything. You do not have any facts because there are no proven facts other than probably some archive somewhere that may be open in 50 years for now... if ever. The difference is that you do make firm statements with no base while I say "looks like".

I think still think there is a very high likelyhood of Ruzzia being behind this. Easy target, lots of damage, right time,...




Ahh yes dig yourself in deeper, approach, after all when you lost all your credibility there is really no more downside to making stuff up right? Here are some of your quotes:
Meanwhile, the disconnect between the RF army chief Psychos and the diplomatic and civil side of the government is show again in the terrorist attacks against Nord Stream II.
The Nord Stream was mainly a RF doing, because Ukraine asked for payment for the pass through their territory, paid with German money.
...Bottomline, as it is now, it looks like international terrorism from Adolf Putin's Psychos and the Chief Orcs.

as the RF has destroyed the Nord Streams "outside NATO territory". Seems that Mafia rules have found an equivalent response



Western officials no longer suspect Russia of ordering alleged attack against undersea gas pipelines
...

Ah yes denial, great strategy. I will thread crap all day long, but when confronted with it, instead of admitting that i was wrong I just won't believe anything that doesn't fit my narrative for 50years...wait maybe not even then, defense. The cope is really strong with this one

This is me waiting for your irrefutable evidence to contradict my views while you wonder around my posts - and keep quoting my "looks like" which means exactly that.

I am sorry you do not like how things work in the world, but the fact is that secret ops are secret, so no reason for you to run into baby rant. If you do not like that sometimes the truth will not be know, jump to a parallel universe where you are omniscient.

And by the wat, if you insist in judging other's credibility, start providing some sources or you will just be another of the wall-texters trolling here. As of now, you are pretty much at the bottom feeding end of the disinformation effort.

But... to things that actually matter, the breaking of the grain deal and the bombing of grain silos has fired back in the form of attacks on Ruzzian vessels. It seems that insurance costs (or even the possibility of insuring) cuts both ways.

Who is the volunteer to explain to Adolf Putin (thanks for reminding) how a country with no navy is damaging the Ruzzian ships so effectively.


The Wall Street Journal found that the company that rented the boat—a 50-foot pleasure yacht named Andromeda—was founded and controlled by Ukrainians who were Polish residents who used Polish bank accounts and an accountant and paralegal based in Krakow, according to interviews with people familiar with the company and corporate filings.
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Poland, which is conducting its own, more limited investigation, has known about the role of the company, Feeria Lwowa, since March, Polish officials said. About three weeks ago, investigators visited its registered office in Warsaw for the first time, conducting a brief meeting that lasted only a few minutes
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“You asked more questions than they did,” an office worker present during the raid told Journal reporters who visited.
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German investigators have identified some of the six members of the sabotage crew on board the Andromeda. The suspects haven’t been named but investigators say they are Ukrainian citizens.


Tip about the boat came from the source inside of Ukraine of one of the EU intelligence agencies, boat was placed at the scene of explosions, explosive residue on the pipe matched to the residue found on the boat, 6 members of the sabotage crew are Ukrainian citizens. travel agency booking the boat was founded and controlled by Ukrainians with Polish bank accounts accountants and paralegals. CIA director and German intelligence officers are on record saying that evidence don't point to Russia. And found DNA matched (through his son in Germany) to a 26yr old Ukrainian soldier (not yet identified), who left Germany for Ukraine. At this point too many people are involved, and with every fifth person in Germany supporting AfD (and presumably many more in police/military circles) that they won't be able to keep this under covers. But nothing gets past your critical thinking, because through your hallucinations you just know that it was aliens Putin placed those explosives himself while riding a trained narwhal, you should contact all these publications immediately with your theory, so they can all publish corrections!

You've demonstrated that you're not even able to read your own quotes, to notice that most don't have "looks like" in them. So i don't really expect you to be able to read this either. And I'm sorry, but I just don't have the coloring pencils to draw it out in color pictures for you. But continue, do tell us what else looks like "Russia did it" to you, after all with your track record we're all very interested in hearing your next, spot on unbiased, carefully cited, predictions.

Finally we have something to discuss, it takes you a while to get of the irate responses and actually say something even if you have just one source and even if it is behind a paywall.

So, you base you accusation to the Ukrainian government of blowing up the NS because:

- A small vessel was around (definetly not at "the scene" which is 80 m below the water).
- That small vessel was rented by an Ukrainian company and sailed / operated from Poland.
- The vessel was in the area for 12 hours.
- Intelligence sources (take with plenty of salt) say that the US told Ukraine not to blow it up.

Anything else? Because that is not enough.

Other sources say:

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German investigators now believe that six individuals using fake passports rented a sailing yacht in September, embarked from Germany and planted explosives that severed the pipelines, according to officials familiar with that investigation. They believe the operatives were skilled divers, given that the explosives were planted at a depth of about 240 feet, in the range that experts say helium would be helpful for maintaining mental focus.

So this is now from Germany.

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The June plot differs from the September attack in some respects. The European intelligence report notes that the Ukrainian operatives planned to attack the Nord Stream 1 pipeline, but it makes no mention of Nord Stream 2, a newer line. The intelligence report also says that the saboteurs would embark from a different location in Europe, not Warnemünde, a German port town on the Baltic, where the Andromeda was rented.

What I see in here is lots on unreliable information and "may be 's". Certainly nothing "irrefutable" or beyond doubt... unless you really need to believe it of course.

So, go doggy, search for more posts and wall-text to cover the issue: You are giving credit to anything that supports your view, while actually claiming those same sources are biased when they do not. I guess that is what you call "credibility"?? I am good without, thanks.

when the US cuts them all off... like it is slowly cutting dumb, noisy, little Ukraine off.
Well, only in case your deranged Trumpturd can fool enough Trumptards to vote for him...

Kinda right. If Trump wins, we will have peace in Ukraine and Russia, and probably in the China-Taiwan thing, and in many other places in the world. Then, the US will probably resign from Nato, and there will be even more peace.

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Oh... BA you are doubting now? Your post usually say "when Trump wins" but this time is "If Trump wins". Are you loosing your faith? Is it because of the indictments that you are no longer sure?

https://www.politico.com/interactives/2023/trump-criminal-investigations-cases-tracker-list/

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2 felony counts (including one conspiracy count) of obstructing an official proceeding under 18 U.S.C. § 1512 | 1 felony count of conspiracy to defraud the United States under 18 U.S.C. § 371 | 1 felony count of conspiracy against rights under 18 U.S.C. § 241

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One alleges a scheme to defraud the United States through a sustained effort to impede the collection, counting and certification of votes in the 2020 election. And the fourth charge accuses Trump of a conspiracy to deprive citizens of a right secured under federal law — specifically, the right to vote and to have one’s vote counted.

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On Aug. 1, 2023, the grand jury approved an indictment against Trump, charging him with an extraordinary conspiracy that threatened to disenfranchise millions of Americans.

And I hear you say this a man-hunt, all politically motivated?  When you are the f**ing president of the USA you have to behave exceptionally well, because you hold exceptional power. This is something that Trump does not seem to understand and is bringing shame to the nation.

A pity that the best the dems could put together was Biden.









817  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: August 08, 2023, 12:32:27 AM
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Edit:
And are you seriously calling for mass targeted killing of civilians at a huge scale towards the end there?
Don't waste your time on this character, this is a walking collection of propaganda clichés. A typical Ukrainian neo-Nazi, with every statement he makes an aggressive anti-advertisement to the Zelensky regime. The only benefit of his statements is that it becomes clear why Ukraine needs denazification.

You enjoying the new drones that I predicted to hit Moscow just one day ago and today it was the truth.Russia how funny they are,one of their generals said some time before that hardly any sky is shielded more than that of Moscow yet drones are hitting the financial district,Russia is incapable of protecting their own citizens and the so called elite which work in that institution that was hit.Ukraine never forget any war crimes Russia has made and will make them pay as Zelensky says it is only a natural process that the war will be felt inside Russia,inside Moscow.I am waiting for more strikes and devastation against a country which started a war out of nowhere and this is the end of malevolent countries.
I'm trying to find any military reason for these drone attacks on the business center, but unfortunately I can't. And a repeated strike on the same building in Moscow City refutes the version of the Russian Defense Ministry that the first drone was suppressed by electronic warfare, these were targeted Ukrainian attacks on a skyscraper in Moscow, in which there are no military facilities. Simply put, this is pure terrorist attack.

I understand why Ukraine resorts to terrorist tactics - because its counter-offensive is failing. I understand, but I don't condone it. It is impossible to defend democratic values by terrorist methods. Soon even its most zealous supporters in the West will turn their backs on Ukraine, because support for Ukraine already smells very shitty.

No.It is because Russia continuously strikes civilian targets not later than yesterday killing an 10 year old girl.This is a response to Russian terror and it is only natural that Russia feels the same what Ukrainians are feeling because of Russian barbarism.The Russians claim they hit no civilian targets yet today they hit a dormitory in Kharkiv,luckily without dead persons.Russian have killed children,have made mass graves and systematically hit civilian targets in Ukrainian cities so it is only a natural response and what I find the most funny is terrorists (Russia are the true ones starting a war out of nowhere and killing civilians as a sign of desperation in the battlefield,stalled invasion) are calling the victim who tries to defend a terrorist  Grin.

@Branko , the US clearly has ask for forgiveness although it is not worthy after the damage they have done yet they have spend billions in help rebuilding Iraq after then,not justifying them,it was a mistake and they ask for forgiveness.
:

You keep moronically tip-toeing around a serious topic. Simple question, do you condemn attacks on civilians in RF without military justification (hint: response to what they did is NOT military justification)?

Oh, yes, let's not tiptoe... do you condemn Ruzzian attacks in schools, restaurants, civilian buildings including churches, hospitals, entertainment and shopping places?

I absolutely deplore any targeted attack on civilians without military justification, and fully condemn any idiot even hinting or joking about committing such atrocities. Furthermore, I think any civilian casualty is a tragedy be they Afghans, Iraqis, Yugoslavs, Libyans, Ukrainians, Yemenis or whatever, and only a deplorable waste of a human life would gloat or encourage such heinous crimes, no ifs and buts about this. There, super easy answer. Now to the big question, why such basic statement that is self evident to overwhelming majority of humans is so hard for UA supporters on this forum to say?

   There are millions of Ukrainians living/working in Russia as well as millions of mixed marriages/families. Despite all of the danger Russians are still gladly travel to Crimea with their families for summer vacation where majority of population was born in Ukraine/Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic. Tens of thousands born in Ukrain/UASSR are currently fighting on the side of Russia (old DRP/LRP) against current Ukrainian regime, and since the start of the war more Ukrainians refugees went to Russia than to any other country. As of 31July2023 2086 civilians were killed on the RU controlled territory and 7283 on UA controlled. So attacking force resulted in 249% more civilian losses on the UA side, from what i have gathered RU launched over 5000 missiles and 2000 drones (as well as significantly more artillery shells, and MLRS rockets) for every incoming missile/shahed you want to intercept on average of more than 1.0 air defense missile needs to be launched (defense in depth). with some air defense missiles deciding to go as far as Poland. Now seeing these numbers compare it to other conflicts, and then tell us if data shows any systematic targeting of civilian population (hint it shows exact opposite, civilian looses are much lower than expected for conflict of this scale)



...
Blowing the Nord Stream II looks like the RF army doing to kind of "make a point" on regards to EU aid and aligns well with a country that is under a Junta.

In my view, this is an act of war.
The Orc army could have chosen any other target right? A bridge in France, a factory in Germany... Why do you think they would hit NS II? The answer is very simple: it is not in NATO territory and does not grant a NATO mobilisation which would end any expectation of even a technical "victory" in the invasion.

Now, what does YOUR critical thinking tell you about this?


So how about for some accountability of claims, knowing what we know now that there is irrefutable evidence of explosive residue leading directly to UA soldiers with information from EU that Gen. Zaluzhny was involved, are you going to stand by your words and still think that this was an act of war from Ukraine on Germany? Or going to backpedal on this? If you were mislead yourself, and thus inadvertently mislead other readers on this forum, what lead you to come to such wrong conclusion, or were you the one intentionally doing misleading? Guess in that case you'll just ignore everything and just jump on whatever is in the headlines this hour.

There is no irrefutable evidence. You are just stating non-facts without any evidence.

Please notice the "looks like" in my text before you try to accuse me of anything. You do not have any facts because there are no proven facts other than probably some archive somewhere that may be open in 50 years for now... if ever. The difference is that you do make firm statements with no base while I say "looks like".

I think still think there is a very high likelyhood of Ruzzia being behind this. Easy target, lots of damage, right time,...




Ahh yes dig yourself in deeper, approach, after all when you lost all your credibility there is really no more downside to making stuff up right? Here are some of your quotes:
Meanwhile, the disconnect between the RF army chief Psychos and the diplomatic and civil side of the government is show again in the terrorist attacks against Nord Stream II.
The Nord Stream was mainly a RF doing, because Ukraine asked for payment for the pass through their territory, paid with German money.
...Bottomline, as it is now, it looks like international terrorism from Adolf Putin's Psychos and the Chief Orcs.

as the RF has destroyed the Nord Streams "outside NATO territory". Seems that Mafia rules have found an equivalent response



Western officials no longer suspect Russia of ordering alleged attack against undersea gas pipelines
...

Ah yes denial, great strategy. I will thread crap all day long, but when confronted with it, instead of admitting that i was wrong I just won't believe anything that doesn't fit my narrative for 50years...wait maybe not even then, defense. The cope is really strong with this one

This is me waiting for your irrefutable evidence to contradict my views while you wonder around my posts - and keep quoting my "looks like" which means exactly that.

I am sorry you do not like how things work in the world, but the fact is that secret ops are secret, so no reason for you to run into baby rant. If you do not like that sometimes the truth will not be know, jump to a parallel universe where you are omniscient.

And by the wat, if you insist in judging other's credibility, start providing some sources or you will just be another of the wall-texters trolling here. As of now, you are pretty much at the bottom feeding end of the disinformation effort.

But... to things that actually matter, the breaking of the grain deal and the bombing of grain silos has fired back in the form of attacks on Ruzzian vessels. It seems that insurance costs (or even the possibility of insuring) cuts both ways.

Who is the volunteer to explain to Adolf Putin (thanks for reminding) how a country with no navy is damaging the Ruzzian ships so effectively.



818  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: August 06, 2023, 06:15:15 PM
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Edit:
And are you seriously calling for mass targeted killing of civilians at a huge scale towards the end there?
Don't waste your time on this character, this is a walking collection of propaganda clichés. A typical Ukrainian neo-Nazi, with every statement he makes an aggressive anti-advertisement to the Zelensky regime. The only benefit of his statements is that it becomes clear why Ukraine needs denazification.

You enjoying the new drones that I predicted to hit Moscow just one day ago and today it was the truth.Russia how funny they are,one of their generals said some time before that hardly any sky is shielded more than that of Moscow yet drones are hitting the financial district,Russia is incapable of protecting their own citizens and the so called elite which work in that institution that was hit.Ukraine never forget any war crimes Russia has made and will make them pay as Zelensky says it is only a natural process that the war will be felt inside Russia,inside Moscow.I am waiting for more strikes and devastation against a country which started a war out of nowhere and this is the end of malevolent countries.
I'm trying to find any military reason for these drone attacks on the business center, but unfortunately I can't. And a repeated strike on the same building in Moscow City refutes the version of the Russian Defense Ministry that the first drone was suppressed by electronic warfare, these were targeted Ukrainian attacks on a skyscraper in Moscow, in which there are no military facilities. Simply put, this is pure terrorist attack.

I understand why Ukraine resorts to terrorist tactics - because its counter-offensive is failing. I understand, but I don't condone it. It is impossible to defend democratic values by terrorist methods. Soon even its most zealous supporters in the West will turn their backs on Ukraine, because support for Ukraine already smells very shitty.

No.It is because Russia continuously strikes civilian targets not later than yesterday killing an 10 year old girl.This is a response to Russian terror and it is only natural that Russia feels the same what Ukrainians are feeling because of Russian barbarism.The Russians claim they hit no civilian targets yet today they hit a dormitory in Kharkiv,luckily without dead persons.Russian have killed children,have made mass graves and systematically hit civilian targets in Ukrainian cities so it is only a natural response and what I find the most funny is terrorists (Russia are the true ones starting a war out of nowhere and killing civilians as a sign of desperation in the battlefield,stalled invasion) are calling the victim who tries to defend a terrorist  Grin.

@Branko , the US clearly has ask for forgiveness although it is not worthy after the damage they have done yet they have spend billions in help rebuilding Iraq after then,not justifying them,it was a mistake and they ask for forgiveness.
:

You keep moronically tip-toeing around a serious topic. Simple question, do you condemn attacks on civilians in RF without military justification (hint: response to what they did is NOT military justification)?

Oh, yes, let's not tiptoe... do you condemn Ruzzian attacks in schools, restaurants, civilian buildings including churches, hospitals, entertainment and shopping places?

I absolutely deplore any targeted attack on civilians without military justification, and fully condemn any idiot even hinting or joking about committing such atrocities. Furthermore, I think any civilian casualty is a tragedy be they Afghans, Iraqis, Yugoslavs, Libyans, Ukrainians, Yemenis or whatever, and only a deplorable waste of a human life would gloat or encourage such heinous crimes, no ifs and buts about this. There, super easy answer. Now to the big question, why such basic statement that is self evident to overwhelming majority of humans is so hard for UA supporters on this forum to say?

   There are millions of Ukrainians living/working in Russia as well as millions of mixed marriages/families. Despite all of the danger Russians are still gladly travel to Crimea with their families for summer vacation where majority of population was born in Ukraine/Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic. Tens of thousands born in Ukrain/UASSR are currently fighting on the side of Russia (old DRP/LRP) against current Ukrainian regime, and since the start of the war more Ukrainians refugees went to Russia than to any other country. As of 31July2023 2086 civilians were killed on the RU controlled territory and 7283 on UA controlled. So attacking force resulted in 249% more civilian losses on the UA side, from what i have gathered RU launched over 5000 missiles and 2000 drones (as well as significantly more artillery shells, and MLRS rockets) for every incoming missile/shahed you want to intercept on average of more than 1.0 air defense missile needs to be launched (defense in depth). with some air defense missiles deciding to go as far as Poland. Now seeing these numbers compare it to other conflicts, and then tell us if data shows any systematic targeting of civilian population (hint it shows exact opposite, civilian looses are much lower than expected for conflict of this scale)



...
Blowing the Nord Stream II looks like the RF army doing to kind of "make a point" on regards to EU aid and aligns well with a country that is under a Junta.

In my view, this is an act of war.
The Orc army could have chosen any other target right? A bridge in France, a factory in Germany... Why do you think they would hit NS II? The answer is very simple: it is not in NATO territory and does not grant a NATO mobilisation which would end any expectation of even a technical "victory" in the invasion.

Now, what does YOUR critical thinking tell you about this?


So how about for some accountability of claims, knowing what we know now that there is irrefutable evidence of explosive residue leading directly to UA soldiers with information from EU that Gen. Zaluzhny was involved, are you going to stand by your words and still think that this was an act of war from Ukraine on Germany? Or going to backpedal on this? If you were mislead yourself, and thus inadvertently mislead other readers on this forum, what lead you to come to such wrong conclusion, or were you the one intentionally doing misleading? Guess in that case you'll just ignore everything and just jump on whatever is in the headlines this hour.

There is no irrefutable evidence. You are just stating non-facts without any evidence.

Please notice the "looks like" in my text before you try to accuse me of anything. You do not have any facts because there are no proven facts other than probably some archive somewhere that may be open in 50 years for now... if ever. The difference is that you do make firm statements with no base while I say "looks like".

I think still think there is a very high likelyhood of Ruzzia being behind this. Easy target, lots of damage, right time,...

RE attacks on Crimea, if you are Ruzzian or mixed or Mormon or a Caribbean rasta you probably known by now that Crimea is a territory of Ukraine that is currently occupied by Ruzzia, that there is a bridge (well more than one) that are critical for the war logistics, that Ruzzian depots and war infrastructure in the region are attacked daily, and that may include places of gathering of troops that may be close to your chosen vacation spot.

So, they can go and have fun while their government kills Ukrainians and does everything they can to annihilate them physically, economically and morally, yes of course, they are in their right to enjoy life. However, as much as I like exercising my liberty, this year I will not go to Niger, nor to Sebastopol, nor to Sudan,... For the same reason, I would suggest to Ruzzians and others to choose another place to go with the kids.






819  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What factors affect life expectancy? on: August 05, 2023, 05:01:12 PM
^^^ Yet insurance questions never have anything to do with life expectancy, except that the insurance applicant starts to follow insurance company rules by obeying some of the answers the companies are looking for.

Cool

So in your world none of these are related to life expectancy: smoking, practising climbing and mountaneering, have suicidal tendencies ... You are going to rewrite the manual of underwriting just by the mere force of your non-argument? I think you have been eating to much deer meat lately, but hey, go start your own insurance company with your criteria - I like testing theories.
820  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: August 05, 2023, 04:54:07 PM
Poor Ukrainian soldiers. Now they will have to live with lost limbs, and try to take care of themselves without funds... funds that are going to fight the war. Anybody have statistics like this for Russia?


WSJ: 20,000-50,000 Ukrainians Have Lost Limbs Since Russia Invaded
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The figure is [...]


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Of course, there are official statistics for Ruzzia. No soldier has been killed, nobody in Ruzzia has lost any limbs in the war and not only that, the soldiers that went to the front without limbs have managed to grow replacement ones thanks to their great morale in the front. This is the official statistic coming from the same official Ruzzian sources that claim to have destroyed more planes that Ukraine ever had.

Edit:
And are you seriously calling for mass targeted killing of civilians at a huge scale towards the end there?
Don't waste your time on this character, this is a walking collection of propaganda clichés. A typical Ukrainian neo-Nazi, with every statement he makes an aggressive anti-advertisement to the Zelensky regime. The only benefit of his statements is that it becomes clear why Ukraine needs denazification.

You enjoying the new drones that I predicted to hit Moscow just one day ago and today it was the truth.Russia how funny they are,one of their generals said some time before that hardly any sky is shielded more than that of Moscow yet drones are hitting the financial district,Russia is incapable of protecting their own citizens and the so called elite which work in that institution that was hit.Ukraine never forget any war crimes Russia has made and will make them pay as Zelensky says it is only a natural process that the war will be felt inside Russia,inside Moscow.I am waiting for more strikes and devastation against a country which started a war out of nowhere and this is the end of malevolent countries.
I'm trying to find any military reason for these drone attacks on the business center, but unfortunately I can't. And a repeated strike on the same building in Moscow City refutes the version of the Russian Defense Ministry that the first drone was suppressed by electronic warfare, these were targeted Ukrainian attacks on a skyscraper in Moscow, in which there are no military facilities. Simply put, this is pure terrorist attack.

I understand why Ukraine resorts to terrorist tactics - because its counter-offensive is failing. I understand, but I don't condone it. It is impossible to defend democratic values by terrorist methods. Soon even its most zealous supporters in the West will turn their backs on Ukraine, because support for Ukraine already smells very shitty.

No.It is because Russia continuously strikes civilian targets not later than yesterday killing an 10 year old girl.This is a response to Russian terror and it is only natural that Russia feels the same what Ukrainians are feeling because of Russian barbarism.The Russians claim they hit no civilian targets yet today they hit a dormitory in Kharkiv,luckily without dead persons.Russian have killed children,have made mass graves and systematically hit civilian targets in Ukrainian cities so it is only a natural response and what I find the most funny is terrorists (Russia are the true ones starting a war out of nowhere and killing civilians as a sign of desperation in the battlefield,stalled invasion) are calling the victim who tries to defend a terrorist  Grin.

@Branko , the US clearly has ask for forgiveness although it is not worthy after the damage they have done yet they have spend billions in help rebuilding Iraq after then,not justifying them,it was a mistake and they ask for forgiveness.
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You keep moronically tip-toeing around a serious topic. Simple question, do you condemn attacks on civilians in RF without military justification (hint: response to what they did is NOT military justification)?

Oh, yes, let's not tiptoe... do you condemn Ruzzian attacks in schools, restaurants, civilian buildings including churches, hospitals, entertainment and shopping places?
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