which pill addiction? red pull or blue pill. answer really important

whats stopping you from marketting?

or do you mean quick someone post news so my profits go up? if you believe in a coin do your part to market it.

there are stock companies that mine bitcoin hence that statement is invalid. bitcoin bought for fiat is transfer of debt which you stated fiat to be.

fiat is no better than bitcoin. if you disagree please explain zimbabwes crazy inflation if its a measure of debt. the apparent measure of debt isnt consistent as it diluted.

your fiat is more a value of trust you hold that it will remain an equal value of debt exchange. if that trust is destroyed by government then what you hold becomes a ponzi.

i get your general idea but if you believe bitcoin not to measure value than fiat should not be either.

so all stocks on the stock market are a ponzi scheme too?

bitcoin functions like a limited stock of 21 million total. if people use fiat to buy bitcoin are they not transferring the debt value that fiat represents into the bitcoin which then gives bitcoin that utility as a debt instrument?

based on your points the stock market matches exactly bitcoin which would be governments support a ponzi scheme market.

so basically its dependant on bitcoin and better to report its value by satoshi?

its target you dumbass. and because you posted josh got calls from their high ups attacking him for releasing info. thanks assole no $20 value for everyone now

ps that was satire

ion has fallen rapidly in usd value... why is that? has something happened thats caused ions usd value to fall so much?

you’re focusing and insisting its a korvas vs suchmoon thing. suchmoon and others have posted points showing dubious actions by the team ie lack of transparency etc and you think its a person a vs person b thing. if you are rational and serious why have you not asked korvas, wildshark and ion team to answer with facts the questions suchmoon and others have asked. you’re targetting hostility... its not the problem. hostility is a symptom of the failure to address points of contention.

if you are serious and want to be rational you should address those points and petition the ion team you support to address them. blind faith can be damaging. adam matlack once did that with josh garza... following in his footateps would be foolish.

im australian and cant see this anywhere. no link looks like 0 activity account trying to scam on a property they dont own.

are you running 2.5.2 version and are you fully synced?

it stakes every 6 hours. wallet needs to be open and unlocked for staking. the 10% is a years worth of stakes. if you need to spend do it after the 6 hour stake.

group all your inputs as well. put them all in 1 stack on an address. have 2 addresses 1 with majority and 1 spending. should be right then.

your stats dont reflect the trueness of bitcoin.

you cant use usd values of all. at the begnning you spent x bitcoin to get ion, monero and dash. they dont have usd pairs. if you want to be true you need to calculate a starting usd in btc then show growth in that amount for all.

next you’ve picked a point in time that works for you. it might be your chosen buy sell time but it doesnt show all. ion floated at ico over double its satoshi value it is now. compared to btc holding value thats a huge lose in profit. you are speaking from fact like everyone bought at 1/1/2017 this is not true... are you ignoring that those buying at 45000 sat lost value holding compared to btc?

the truth is holding btc value was better than buying ion... this is fact are you denying that?

can you do your table again compared in btc value starting ion ico date? i can repost my stats if you like. id be interested to see if you agree and why or why not.

ion is on 1 exchange... 2 if you count their own. i wouldnt because any coin that runs its own market can taint it so it should be ignored.

if bittrex folds or fails where is ion? its only on bittrex because they paid the btc fee. its not there on its merits.

probably has coins on multiple addresses. block explorer hes checking 1 address

people shouldnt be predicting usd price for any coin thats pegged to bitcoin. only those decoupled should.

dgb can price rise usd value based purely on btc rises with dgb not shifting an inch. if you measure success in usd only then you should of held btc because you lose value in bought alts.

what should be predicted and talked about in all alts is satoshi value e.g 0.00000320 btc or 320 sat. this is a better measure of performance as it measures dgb against the grand daddy currency btc. measuring in usd is foolish and shouldnt be done on coins that are reliant on bitcoin. why do people keep doing this.

thats crap... meanwhile my held btc did 3800%. so basically your free coins cost you 2400% using your line of reasoning?

sorry for your loss

you do realise since you play usd measure your ion will never catch my btc usd value right? since your usd value relies on btc usd rising as your sat value from ico has shrunk. this pegs it to btc’s increases and decreases. technically until your 20,000 masternode generates 60,000 additional coins you arent matched in btc. whats a node do 23 coins a day?

60,000 / 23 = 2608.7 days

2608.7 / 365 (ignoring leap years) = 7.14 years

again sorry for your loss.

ill be retired and driving my lambo for 7 years before tou get back to starting return.

you sure? i didnt buy ion so it reflects the real world for me so saying it doesnt reflect the real worlds a lie you naughty boy.

i showed my math if you want to compare it to staking along the way then you show the math. until then your statement is unfounded.

based on required btc convert you still need to generated between 40,000 to 60,000 additional coins on top of your masternode to match btc amount. i dont think ion was that hyper inflating in a year.... pretty sure apr wasnt 400%.

i on the other hand did absolutely nothing held my btc and got magnitudes more usd value. that is a simple truth. if you disagree show how with math.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/news.ionomy.com/ion-ico-details-release/amp/

ion 0.20c each 4th april
bitcoin - 421.29
ion value in bitcoin 0.00047473 for 1 ion

masternode 20,000 is 9.49464739 ($4000 usd)

fast foward to now

ion is 0.00009640
bitcoin is 16,595.72
1 ion in usd is 1.60

20,000 masternode is $32,000 or 1.928208btc
- usd increase $28,000
- btc change -7.56643939

holding ion value $32,000
holding btc value (9.49464739 x $16,595.72) = $157,570.51

i didnt add additional staked ion. but unless you turned 20,000 into 80,000 ion only by staking in a year its not equal.

argue usd etc all you want wildshark but those are the factual data. show where im wrong with math. dont jump between usd sat to try to sound favorable.

if you like ion fine but dont lie about it being more profitable.

did people make money investing in ion based on usd? yes yes they did. BUT and its a but required. Did ion investors lose profit potential by converting btc to ion? yes by a huge margin.

ion $4000 to $28,000 is 6 times richer
held bitcoin 421$ to $16,595 is 38.41 times richer

not everything is about pumps. im still staking my holdings

i hear who the original coder is back working on something snazzy

there is when btc is the full glass but you try to tell people that the half glass ion is better. be honest on it then there isnt a problem instead of arguing ion was a better investment when it clearly isnt.

and stop modifying my text in quotes. any text changes highlights etc is no longer a quote. you are trying to focus on parts incorrectly at times to your agenda. leave them untouched. if you want colours reply you said rewrite the text and colour. the quote button is being misused by you. its bad practice and not good netiquette.