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1041  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: May 22, 2016, 04:03:33 AM

I'm so glad I only went after people like Bitcoinbar, Badbitcoin, and Mr.Coins.  Grin


good lord that Bitcoinbar baffoon had to have been one of the most obnoxious
characters posting on the hashtalk forum. So glad to know you went after him.
On top of his extremely annoying crowing about make a living being a
"professional bitcoin trader" or some such nonsense, in many of his asinine comments
he'd phuck up and use "loose" instead of "lose" and vice versa. (not unlike many other like minded idiots ftm)
jeeezus what a frickin loser...  or as he would say "looser"   Grin


LMFAO....  Grin

http://ht.uksafedns.net/hashtalk.org/user/bitcoin-bar.html

 
so I click on  bitcoinbaffoon bitcoinbar linc and hello, theres Buck Rogers! well imagine that ....birds of a feather!...  Grin Grin
thanx owl.


Bitcoin Bar is too cool for bitcoin.

Such a smooth dude. He should open a bar that takes ion. It would electrify their drinks.

He sure showed us fudders of paycoin. He promised we'd eat our words. Wonder where he is now... ? Maybe he could come and show us he is a man of his word and be humble enough to say he was wrong and we were right?
1042  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | ICO LIVE | PoS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: May 21, 2016, 08:01:54 AM
Korvas, rdewilde, anyone else on the inside. Has there been any more clarification on how they will work with Google play to accept payment in game besides "amazon does it?"

No. From what I remember IOS was more of a problem than Android. But no detailed description was given. Most guess that the ingame incentive will not be crypto (but for example the non-crypto token called Electrons) which can be used to boost staking on the IONs thru ionomy platform. Indirectly it means that ingame earned/bought tokens would be converted from/to ION capital thru staking. Not a single official detailled source about this yet though

Apple will not allow a token that gives monetary money outside. if they did then others would simply not use ingame currency and ion or similar tokens and direct people to use them at their site. Apple and google will knock this on its ass and freeze all of the devs games that do it until they are changed. Is you and others in ions investment worth taking such a high risk for what is their crowning purpose of the coin i.e. mobile gaming? If apple store and google play store freeze or remove these games which they will... then does that mean the coin loses all purpose? Your opinion?
1043  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | ICO LIVE | PoS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: May 21, 2016, 07:58:26 AM
BTW this is horribly bad practice.

For those not versed in networking

an address like

45.32.148.69:4001
45.32.148.69:4002

These are both running on the same server instance with that ip address... all that changes is the port. I.e. as long as that specific pc has enough ram to support running the wallet multiple times 1 pc hosts many masternodes. Staking wallets are usually lightweight cpu wise and ram is cheap.

SO basically for a small cost outlay for a vps they get big rewards. There is a reason that many masternode coins only allow 1 masternode per IP address. This is to prevent people doing this providing a real cost to each ip address to distribute it more.

This is another red flag for ionomy. If they wanted the coin to be not centrally possible to control with the masternode network they would prevent this.

Why would you want your coins to filter through 1 pc 20 times as transaction points? Its a flawed system in one port out the other never leaves the 1 pc.

Add that to the list suchmoon... more dodginess. Multi masternodes on 1 ip address reduces ionomy costs for controlling masternode rewards.

EDIT
Im also willing to believe that their masternode age required before it can function as a masternode to be quite low. I suspect their nodes drop off a bit and they don't know why so they use the masternode restart-all or whatever it is command quite regularly.

Psst its because you host many per ip address so that starts happening and since you just copied the code and didn't look into fixing it thats your bug... this is why the ips are changing too... they prolly have dynamic ip vps's going cause they don't need the static address for their purpose. They prolly restart the boxes wondering why the nodes are dropping.

Nonsense, it is POS not POW. You need coins per wallet to stake, for a masternode 20k. It does not matter if you run 2x 20k MN on two small servers or one big server.

Same for normal nodes. It is relative to the number of coins in your wallet what the reward will be. It makes no sense, and does not matter, to split this into many wallets (except if it is a security measure).

Masternodes are designed for more anonymous sends with darksend / dashsend whatever they call it.

Having everything run through the same source with the mixing etc kinda defeats that purpose. If you want to go the nonsense route with POS then nonsense POS doesn't need masternodes why not just have a constant stake rate for any balance then people don't need to give their coins to others or have silly 20k minimum amounts.
1044  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | ICO LIVE | PoS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: May 21, 2016, 05:27:33 AM
How many investors/developers/etc have looked at the ionomy.com/games have seen the "edgey" typo in the Urban Words description and not gotten it fixed?

I mean, it's not the end of the world, and probably not all that important in the grand scheme of things (although knowing how to use a dictionary is probably important for people making a word game.)

What kind of quality control can be happening with the code (coins or games) if typos can get through (and sit for days) on the web page you are presenting to the public? How can you consider yourself an investor or part of the "community" and see this and not point it out get it fixed? What does it say about all of this if I'm the only one that noticed this when I have 0 dollars invested in this?

Thats because edgey is an urban word... like coining and looser and well you know the rest.

Im more concerned that in all their awesomeness before releasing the coin they couldn't go to all those indie game sites and gather some people to make some games pre-release and include the api etc that they supposedly have.

Would this be the smart thing to do? I mean a mobile based coin needs to have games on release to be a mobile based coin right? Else its just a coin that might oneday have a game made for it?

Its like a horse riding school with no horses. Trust us guys we hope to have horses here one day to teach people to ride... for now just sit on that log over there and pretend.
1045  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | ICO LIVE | PoS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: May 21, 2016, 05:05:48 AM
Anybody want to give Matlack a call on his cell and get a statement about how isn't an obvious carbon copy of Ganza's paycoin scam?



ladrx, I am sure that 1 of us is Paul Revere.  I am also sure it is not me but we share the same name.  Grin If you want to give Paul Revere, ladrx or James Bussinger a call his last known number is .  His address is in my signature.  There is a lot more of his information on bitcointalk if you look around.

And this fits everything ionomy how?

I say give them both a call. Ask questions to both. I know one of them will give actual real statements and its not adam. Adam gives soon and in the next 2 months and we never said that and we have to answer questions just because you say so.

James/Paul/ladrx was giving out phone numbers but forgets to leave his for a return call so I am just helping him out.

Paul however used his main account to post that info where yours isn't your main with 2-3 posts. Could you please maybe leave your number and main account for a return call so people can help you out as well? Just on the odd chance you are wrong or others want to assist you.
1046  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | ICO LIVE | PoS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: May 21, 2016, 04:24:05 AM
Anybody want to give Matlack a call on his cell and get a statement about how isn't an obvious carbon copy of Ganza's paycoin scam?



ladrx, I am sure that 1 of us is Paul Revere.  I am also sure it is not me but we share the same name.  Grin If you want to give Paul Revere, ladrx or James Bussinger a call his last known number is .  His address is in my signature.  There is a lot more of his information on bitcointalk if you look around.

And this fits everything ionomy how?

I say give them both a call. Ask questions to both. I know one of them will give actual real statements and its not adam. Adam gives soon and in the next 2 months and we never said that and we have to answer questions just because you say so.
1047  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | ICO LIVE | PoS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: May 21, 2016, 02:05:31 AM
BTW this is horribly bad practice.

For those not versed in networking

an address like

45.32.148.69:4001
45.32.148.69:4002

These are both running on the same server instance with that ip address... all that changes is the port. I.e. as long as that specific pc has enough ram to support running the wallet multiple times 1 pc hosts many masternodes. Staking wallets are usually lightweight cpu wise and ram is cheap.

SO basically for a small cost outlay for a vps they get big rewards. There is a reason that many masternode coins only allow 1 masternode per IP address. This is to prevent people doing this providing a real cost to each ip address to distribute it more.

This is another red flag for ionomy. If they wanted the coin to be not centrally possible to control with the masternode network they would prevent this.

Why would you want your coins to filter through 1 pc 20 times as transaction points? Its a flawed system in one port out the other never leaves the 1 pc.

Add that to the list suchmoon... more dodginess. Multi masternodes on 1 ip address reduces ionomy costs for controlling masternode rewards.

EDIT
Im also willing to believe that their masternode age required before it can function as a masternode to be quite low. I suspect their nodes drop off a bit and they don't know why so they use the masternode restart-all or whatever it is command quite regularly.

Psst its because you host many per ip address so that starts happening and since you just copied the code and didn't look into fixing it thats your bug... this is why the ips are changing too... they prolly have dynamic ip vps's going cause they don't need the static address for their purpose. They prolly restart the boxes wondering why the nodes are dropping.
1048  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | ICO LIVE | PoS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: May 21, 2016, 02:00:23 AM
So i was right in searching and its the shitty block explorer either meaning not to show it or not displaying enough info? You can't hide premine right it shows in block 1 and should from the word go? I suspected it should as you have to generate a block and award yourself somehow.

Unless there is something hardcoded key wise in the code with starting values. I have to go over some of the stuff i have but there is more masternodes than people think wise.

These address ranges which all resolve to the same vps hosting

104.156.253.x ==> there is 4 masternodes on this
45.32.148.x ==> there is 7 masternodes on this

I suspect these 11 are ionomy's at least as the others are scattered on hosting groups. This was from the start get go. You don't need a hosting group to run a masternode.. your own internet connection going and the wallet open is sufficient to run 1 masternode and most would do that i did it for darknet when i was messing around with masternodes to see how they worked etc. You only need a laptop to kick it off as the controller and then a wallet going 24/7 on a small brix pc that consumes less that 40w. Out of the 19 masternodes going or were at the time 11 is a pretty big chunk Smiley its at least 50% of the rewards... If you take the possibility of dev funds going to the runners of ionomy possibly running 1 or 2 of their own each it makes you think...

Yeah the block explorer is quite limited although the API links help.

Here are some pics from slack. List of masternodes:



45.32.168.193 should be ionomy nodes (may have moved to 45.32.148 or whatever it is now):



104.156.253 ==> the 104 ranges are hosted by choopa as well so likely ionomys or at least members doing the site. They'll bundle hosting all together so i suspect them own just a little more than the 3 listed. Now we should calculate the likely return on the coins they stake and see if it just meets those requirements. Didn't someone mention they will only masternode enough to stake for clients? Sounds like bullshit to me.

There was someone on their slack that mentioned their masternode gives them only 1-2 rewards per day. Means the others are getting a lot more... care to wonder what addresses those rewards go to?
1049  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | ICO LIVE | PoS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: May 21, 2016, 01:36:42 AM
Slight correction for bounty wallet from rdewilde
Dev bounty fund address, as some requested:
ih4X5nhzYVi6Nd4tcGX1qvtC47dzdThZV8

Thanks! I think I will wait for more updates and then re-post the whole updated FAQ.

BTW did you check the balance? It's ~2.2 million, even though whitepaper states 2.5 million and the unsold ICO coins were supposed to go to the bounties as well (another 2+ million) (edit: scratch that - unsold coins might be in a bucket for a different purpose the address for which is not known yet). Also staking like crazy although I can't fathom a reason why these funds shouldn't be in a cold wallet.

This transparency thing is a major chore for these guys.

Since i haven't made a coin before can someone tell me how to find the original generated coins? I expected to use a block explorer to check block 1 i.e. the genesis block and see coins move from that but you don't see it.

Its quite easy to get the ip behind the ionomy website to match the hosting for the vps for their wallet masternodes as cloudflare doesn't mask this well enough when the domain service leaks it in other ways for the site.

Does anyone know how to find the originating generated coins? To verify their premine is as they said?

No easy way with the ionchain.com explorer unless simdude can tweak it somehow.

Technically you could either search for block 1 (but it doesn't show any TX now) or pick the top rich list address

https://ionchain.com/address/imR1kCRvFdTao2LrYoWJoFL7dMgnKm5p8S

and go backwards - but it only shows only 500 last TXs, which is not far enough.

So the only other option I can think of is start with block 1 and go block by block forward until you see coins being transferred out of the genesis address.

Not sure what the website IP address has to do with it - you're not suggesting they would keep the coins there? I think there were screenshots on slack that showed their actual node IP addresses.

Edit: actually this should work:

https://ionchain.com/ext/getlasttxs/10/10000000

Apparently this is the genesis address then:
https://ionchain.com/address/io9KqWqQGBWnZWwHrncstm7Ah5LNPJWfhT

These should be all transfers > 1 million coins:

https://ionchain.com/ext/getlasttxs/100/1000000



So i was right in searching and its the shitty block explorer either meaning not to show it or not displaying enough info? You can't hide premine right it shows in block 1 and should from the word go? I suspected it should as you have to generate a block and award yourself somehow.

Unless there is something hardcoded key wise in the code with starting values. I have to go over some of the stuff i have but there is more masternodes than people think wise.

These address ranges which all resolve to the same vps hosting

104.156.253.x ==> there is 4 masternodes on this
45.32.148.x ==> there is 7 masternodes on this

I suspect these 11 are ionomy's at least as the others are scattered on hosting groups. This was from the start get go. You don't need a hosting group to run a masternode.. your own internet connection going and the wallet open is sufficient to run 1 masternode and most would do that i did it for darknet when i was messing around with masternodes to see how they worked etc. You only need a laptop to kick it off as the controller and then a wallet going 24/7 on a small brix pc that consumes less that 40w. Out of the 19 masternodes going or were at the time 11 is a pretty big chunk Smiley its at least 50% of the rewards... If you take the possibility of dev funds going to the runners of ionomy possibly running 1 or 2 of their own each it makes you think...
1050  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | ICO LIVE | PoS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: May 21, 2016, 12:22:59 AM
Slight correction for bounty wallet from rdewilde
Dev bounty fund address, as some requested:
ih4X5nhzYVi6Nd4tcGX1qvtC47dzdThZV8

Thanks! I think I will wait for more updates and then re-post the whole updated FAQ.

BTW did you check the balance? It's ~2.2 million, even though whitepaper states 2.5 million and the unsold ICO coins were supposed to go to the bounties as well (another 2+ million) (edit: scratch that - unsold coins might be in a bucket for a different purpose the address for which is not known yet). Also staking like crazy although I can't fathom a reason why these funds shouldn't be in a cold wallet.

This transparency thing is a major chore for these guys.

Since i haven't made a coin before can someone tell me how to find the original generated coins? I expected to use a block explorer to check block 1 i.e. the genesis block and see coins move from that but you don't see it.

Its quite easy to get the ip behind the ionomy website to match the hosting for the vps for their wallet masternodes as cloudflare doesn't mask this well enough when the domain service leaks it in other ways for the site.

Does anyone know how to find the originating generated coins? To verify their premine is as they said?
1051  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | ICO LIVE | PoS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: May 19, 2016, 09:10:43 PM
So like Mark from mt gox they test in a live environment?

Kinda like operating on a newborn baby just to test something.

And the test was very successful. They figured out that if they cut the head off the baby will no longer breath.

I love how they say see how amazon works in google playstore.. we are as smart as them.

Amazon actually has money and lawyers and money and did i mention money? They likely went to google had a chat did a deal etc. You know something that leverages market brand and partnerships etc? Im sure amazon just didn't sneak it in and be smart... because when companies do that then google just modify their tos and point at the section that says tos can change and hole plugged app removed. Remember google maps as a native app on ios as it was a deal for x years... omg notice now how there is apple maps and google maps removed from default ios and now only in app store. Same thing.. well except google maps doesn't invalidate any of the tos. So if a company of googles size with money etc get replaced by an apple inside app... how would ionomy fair against say err in app purchases and apple pay?

Im sure amazon isn't on ios because apple do their own book store sales platform etc. Its why amazon do the kindle...

There is no integration on those app stores.. Its all vetted and if it slips through it takes but 1 email from anyone to show apple and gone. Amusing that Adam a man of god has a plan that involves deception with apple and google to push through his plans. Maybe god should slap him upside the head and say... what are you doing?

Garza was born deluded and stupid with a side of pathological liar.. i think to an extent he honestly didn't know what he was doing BUT he always intended to scam he was just shit at making projects when he thought he was a god at it.

Adam... he's normal (intelligence wise i mean average) and just fails constantly at this but doesn't learn. He knows this too and thats why he's getting crankier by the day in slack Smiley. Not his answers are becoming more and more wait and see cryptic.. he doesn't have answers Smiley.
1052  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | ICO LIVE | PoS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: May 19, 2016, 08:55:32 PM
The chain seems to have stopped breathing. Last block was more than an hour ago if the explorer is showing the correct time & timezone:



Edit: lolz


So like Mark from mt gox they test in a live environment?

Kinda like operating on a newborn baby just to test something.
1053  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: May 19, 2016, 11:30:49 AM
So what happened to paul? was his family actually threatened or did looneys call his place up or what? I wondered where he disappeared to whats the story?
1054  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | ICO LIVE | PoS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: May 19, 2016, 10:09:41 AM
anyone else put any thought into how easy it is for someone with no business financial sense or dev on coin experience to get people to jump on their ship to sail or sink?

i mean satoshi discussed decimal requirements for coin supply etc Nd most pos coins have a reason for supply rates etc.

huey aka adam matlack seems to have just randomly pipped numbers out for rates. have customers ever wondered why they do what they do and the lack of transparency to every facet of their plan? i know i am.

^^^ this.  Let's see the maths.  Someone, with some sort of basic grasp of economics, must have had some say in how the coin supply works, otherwise...

Well, I suspect it'll turn to shite anyway.  But I'd still like to see the maths and logic behind it.

I went into slack on one of the first few days of the thread and asked to see the maths and research they used to set the ICO price as well as an economic viability study. Got the typical run around.

I think the calculations went along the lines of this: we have "X" amount of paycoiners that we need to make whole. The total lost by said paycoiners is "y". We need to price the coins at "$0.20" to give us the best chance of becoming whole. The project is about making paycoiners whole again. Matlack thinks that is being innovative in crypto.

Why not set the rate lower and do 1:1 with xpy....? Or an xpy staker transition where they get a higher rate for first 6 months... there is lots of possibilities. Setting price at 20c to make them whole makes no sense.

Lets start again too... if the focus is to make xpy bagholders whole what incentive is there to the other new investors if the focus is on fixing other peoples mistakes? You are then disadvantaging the new clients in preference to help old ones.

Adam matlack goes on about not being garza etc and others here say they made a poor investment but why is it new investors responsibilities to make people whole for their own stupid past investment decisions? Does this mean if i invest in a coin and fook it up bitcoin dev team should help me?

This mess of a coin gets worse and worse.
1055  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | ICO LIVE | PoS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: May 19, 2016, 04:46:08 AM
anyone else put any thought into how easy it is for someone with no business financial sense or dev on coin experience to get people to jump on their ship to sail or sink?

i mean satoshi discussed decimal requirements for coin supply etc Nd most pos coins have a reason for supply rates etc.

huey aka adam matlack seems to have just randomly pipped numbers out for rates. have customers ever wondered why they do what they do and the lack of transparency to every facet of their plan? i know i am.
1056  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | ICO LIVE | PoS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: May 18, 2016, 10:01:08 PM
Might as well ask here since I've never really understood it, what does the difficulty in a POS coin represent? How can the difficulty cause the chain to "hang?"

Also, we aren't criticizing Matlack for "trying to deliver value" we are criticizing him for "trying to deliver value" via a method that we know won't work because we saw what the strategy of create a new coin out of thin air did when Garza (and ever other altcoin millionaire) did.

They likely mined it too hard with pow pushing the diff up and when it came time for pos to take over the weight of the coins waiting to stake couldn't beat that so now they have to wait for some age on the coins to push blocks along.

I think the coin amount and weight correlates to a diff value. Im not a coin dev so not sure but thats my educated guess.
1057  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | ICO LIVE | PoS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: May 18, 2016, 09:53:39 PM

Ion not looking very "healthy" at launch. Maybe it needs to concentrate more on its breathing.



It's not the teams fault, people just need to let the blockchain breathe, it brand new.

Poor widdle baby chain, life is so hard:



MrCEO would be proud.

https://twitter.com/gawceo?lang=en

read it he is happy Smiley
1058  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | ICO LIVE | PoS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: May 18, 2016, 09:51:19 PM
ion blockchain needs some time to "breath".



Blockchain breathing is a serious new feature of ION, did you not know this? POS 3.0, the chain comes alive.

Oh boy, I will need a LOT more popcorn to watch this slow motion train wreck.

breath is a noun... breathe is a verb...

I think he spent too much time around garza... i mean we all make grammer (see i did one) mistakes but its amusing seeing the quality of posts huey makes go down the toilet when he's cranky.
1059  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | ICO LIVE | PoS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: May 18, 2016, 09:47:31 PM
Adam getting a little testy:



Well, since he asked nicely... here it says May 14 is the date when many things happen... except they didn't.



The amusing thing is the slack channel is all there people... a bit of dissent in the ranks of the faithful? Say it ain't so....?

They wouldn't of had any of this had they not asked for money with a premine... people would be happily mining and when exchange opens the free market would dictate the price (assuming they don't fook with it running the exchange). ionomy would make their fees on the trades providing a "service" and they could make games that use it etc.

Since they charged and didn't deliver on what they said investors are getting a bit cranky... i can't imagine why? Its not like it cost them.... o wait it did.
1060  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | ICO LIVE | PoS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: May 18, 2016, 09:41:25 PM
I think happy coin just learned why coins that stake at a ridiculous rate are useless. Or did he only determine that about atoms yet and not realize that the same thing applies to the ions themselves?

Hopefully he bails soon before the price crashes. Haven't had time to check out where they can exchange ions and atoms yet, assume it's popping since block 2000 was mined.

This is the next danger.. the only exchange is their own that will open. This is because no serious exchange wants involvement with ex paycoin related activities.

Does everyone not see the danger of the coin team running the exchange? The possibility for fake buy and sells to give people impression coin is worse or better than it is... control of coin flow in sales to drive down and up, make profit.. i.e. insider trading?

All you have to reassure yourself that they won't do that is that old flogged to death horse "Adam seems like a nice guy" comment. This is another red flag.
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