My comment also includes a reference to Bob's representation that he was going to give beers to everyone if the BTC price goes below "x".... BTC price went below "x" and he weasled as good as any disingenuous person that you cannot rely upon at his word.
OK fucker. You just had to push me. I just had to sneak a peek and see whatever nonsense you are crying on about, with respect to not writing checks my mouth has cashed. You are so fucking pompously entitled that it sickens me. If you, for ONE FUCKING MOMENT, think that I was not honest in my desire to follow through with the intention of buying everyone in this thread a beer, then go fuck yourself. It would have become an OpSec and logistical nightmare; I think even you can see that. That's why I ultimately "weasled" <sic> out of it, while trying to do so with humor and grace. But now seeing this bullshit pettiness from you has me seeing red, and I'm contemplating possibly violating my OpSec to follow through (eg: Any user within 20 pages either way of "that" post can ping me for $7 USD worth of BTC to put towards a beer purchase.) It's not even the fucking value of the BTC. It's just that if I make a "good natured, boastful" post like I do in the past, fail spectacularly - repeatedly - everyone get's a chuckle out of it, and nobody gets hurt, then I don't understand your deal, man. It's called "talking shit" and "bantz", you dumb-fuck. JJG, if you want your fucking free beer, and finally put your "grievance" with me to bed, find out what the BTC/USD price was, on the day of my post, post your address here in this thread publicly, and I'll figure out some non-OpSec breaking-way to buy your pussy ass a fucking beer and post the TX. In fact, compile me a fucking list of all users within 20 pages each way of my "free beer" post, and I'll send them BTC (back-valued to $7 at the time of whatever it was when I posted) for a fucking beer, if they drop me a PM. Then when I see you at the $100K party, you MUST attend, and you MUST allow me to give you a clean right-cross square across your smug fucking face. Deal ? I assumed this whole beer/party thing was more of a shitpost than anything else due opsec from the very start. Is the party actually real now, and if so, how the fuck do people stay safe? Hanging out with some of the WO shitposters sounds great, but I don't see how that could take place without introducing unnecessary risk. |
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TIL tumblr is a blogging platform. I thought ... uh well never mind
A fetish site? Yeah me too. Guess we've all been taken for a ride. |
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any coin be it btrash or etc that has their goal to be flippening has the wrong goal.
World reserve money is the goal. The flippening is only a side effect. Flippening VerHanWright's wealth into dirt? |
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But omg Bitcoin has to do teh growing upz (and be regulated to death) -Coingeek clowns 11/2018
- not an actual quotecheers! Bar paraphrasing it's pretty accurate to the Coingeek conference. Especially the talk of that woman with the ASIC hammer (which was pretty sweet to be honest, the hammer, not the talk). |
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how many how early etc ....
3:36pm CST - Beer #5.
- Zkittlez Indica Plant Bowl # ?
- Brass Knuckles GSC oilpen hit # ?
- Brass Knuckles Gushers oilpen hit # ?
- Supreme Sunset Sherbert oilpen hit # ?
I've been eyeing oil pens, but the availability of concentrates sucks too much to bother over here. Hopefully Europe will follow the US and Canada by 2020. |
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With government backed loans I couldn't care much less if I fucked up since everybody would get harmed by my actions.
ftfy First, drop in the ocean. Second, if taxes weren't so outrageously high hardly anybody would even need student loans. Thanks for re-enforcing your support in BCash SV though. |
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R.I.P ETC   Fuck! Market still didn't get the news. Is it possible to short ETC anywhere?  |
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Data/information is only as good as its source. Highest level being 15, not bullish. Edit: Bitcoin Cash has a "16".
Bitcoin SV? 100. #justsayin' Actually only 86 currently...was 100 2 weeks ago. No. The term is not bitcoin+cash+sv, it is bitcoin+sv. And it is trending currently at 100. Even if it were 86, you are still making my point for me. In this thread, we already know that part of the motivation of the bcash forks has been to attempting to put bitcoin back into their name(s), but I doubt that anyone here is going to give bcash such satisfaction, and recommendations from a bcash shill, like yourself, is not going to divert us into such phoney baloney trickery of calling either of the bcash forks as some form of bitcoin. Get it into your bcash shilling head, the bcash forks are still going to be referred to as bcash.. because they are not bitcoin.. forking from bcash does not cause them to be bitcoin, but instead causes them to be variations of bcash... so we have bcash abc and bcash sv.... Seem pretty apparent for anyone who is not caught up in the myth that bcash has value.  But omg Bitcoin has to do teh growing upz (and be regulated to death) -Coingeek clowns 11/2018 |
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If you are poor you should be saving instead of borrowing.
People that really "needs" the money, should never, ever borrow the money.
Enough rant.... I am open for criticism.
Nothing in this world allows you the increase your financial stability, your profits and your social status like borrowing a hella amount of money. Though of course you must be smart about what you do with the investments. I just borrowed 250k€, that's about 7 years of salary for me. The interests are basically 0 if you take inflation into consideration so that's basically just me borrowing to my future self to increase my current income ^^ If I could borrow 4M€ I would  What is your timeline on paying back the loan? So your wager would be that bitcoin is going to perform better than your loan for the term of the loan or at least not perform so bad that you are not able to pay back the loan at the end of the term. It does not sound like a great idea, but if you are buying BTC now (with the proceeds of a loan), then it seems better than buying at higher prices - even $6k or $10k or $17k... But still risky. I wouldn't take up any type of private loan if I didn't know that I could pay it off even if I burnt through the whole amount. With government backed loans I couldn't care much less if I fucked up since nobody would get harmed by my actions. |
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Banks in general have always made the most of their profit by interest on lending. Before the crisis, they started giving mortgages to everyone and their mother without any due diligence.... then the defaults came so instead of profit for every mortgage they got loses. Now they are way more careful on lending money, which basically means they are not "selling" their main product. The future looks dark for them.
I remember the time (before the nineties) when if someone wanted a home he had to pay upfront a good amount to the builder, and then go on paying monthly way before the house was even finished building. No mortages bullshit. Banks were not such a big deal. HOusing prices were low as shit.
All the fucking problem of the last decades has been because of lending money to the plebs. That made them think they were "rich" when they weren't. And banks "banked" like bandits on that stupid feeling.
If you borrow money because you don't have it, then you will always stay poor. Only borrow money when you are leveraging for a biggest (safe) return. If you are poor you should be saving instead of borrowing.
People that really "needs" the money, should never, ever borrow the money.
Enough rant.... I am open for criticism.
When I was a student I invested large parts of my student loan, but my professional path has been more or less laid out thanks to long planning (knew before 18 that I wanted to be able to retire around 30-40) so I knew in what proportion I could put loans at stake without destroying myself in any worst case scenario. I made sure to have exceptional grades in a highly sought after field though, so the probability of me failing along the way were virtually negligible and the cost of default was zero (e.g. no job = exemption from repaying the loan without any downsides on my part). In that situation not taking the risk and potentially fixing an error of judgement down the path would've been irrational. I've seen other plebs do the same (with non-student loans) from a much worse starting position implode though, so you're certainly right. Most people don't know how to manage risk and just go a path of blind faith and there are tons of predatory types just waiting to prey on them. Either way, the banks are just filling a niche. The real problem are all the idiots who are waiting for the stars to magically align instead of taking their life into their own hands. And the absolute worst are the very same idiots who channel their energy into nagging governments to bend them backwards by legalizing a billion fucking pronouns for idiots who can't just be honest and say that they either always or sometimes prefer dick. Like a bunch of toddlers telling on their siblings instead of learning how not to be a helpless retard. I did a similar thing regarding investing some of my student loans. In fact, I have made such attempts all of my life, since graduating from highschool and not having much of a salary. I pretty much took at least 10% of my post highschool income and I made investments with it. Some of them were not the best of investments (especially because my inclination has always been relatively low rish because i wanted to have a certain confidence that my return was going to be greater than my borrowing costs), but the practice has always been kinds of dollar cost averaging attempts. I did not go to college right after high school, but instead started college several years after finishing high school, but I considered the student loan money to be interest free ability to attempt to get returns on "free money" and to build up my nest egg of investment money.. continuing little by little.. and really taking a large number of years to accomplish such building up of decent amounts. Yeah it makes a lot of sense depending on the rules of the student loans available. The biggest plus for me wasn't the low interest rate, but the fact that there's no issue with defaulting. Hence, I didn't have to worry if I didn't find a job right away or decided to change paths. I'm actually surprised that investing parts of student loans (where plausible) isn't the norm. You're usually going to spend the money anyways, if not on investments then on booze or whatever floats your boat. Not sure how sensible that would be in the US, as I've seen some outrageous interest rates and conditions over there. But given the amount of states and their own individual fuckery there could well be some reasonable student loans that basically beg for arbitrage. |
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These Bitcorn prices aren't making any sense.
I'm starting to get the fear.
Fuck.
Not good.
Not good at all.
No need to get worried until <2k. So far we're just repeating the same old same old. |
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Okay so your goal in life is to play sword art online the actual real game where you can i guess play all sorts of instruments that don't and couldn't exist in real life when you are five hundred years old.
Alrighty then.
Illiterate, retarded, or shadow of Roach. In either case, since you ask shit and don't put in the effort of digesting a response I'll treat you the way you ask to be treated. By putting you on ignore. P.S. The way you get hung up over some shitty anime (which you brought up) seems pretty unhealthy. If VR = SAO to you you're even more narrow-minded than I ever could've given you credit for. You didn't strike me as a neckbeard retard before, but damn do things change quickly around Bitcorn. Good luck in life kid. |
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Every cutting edge of any discipline or art and then some that haven't been conceived of yet. If the (by now almost blatantly obvious) prospect of fully immersive virtual realities doesn't tickle your fancy I don't know what will. The first baby steps have been taken (memory manipulation, trolling the brain, controlling shit with your brain), the rest is a question of time. Space travel is around the corner as well.
And for whoever is lucky enough to hit the threshold for longevity they'll be in for quite a wild ride, be it in VR or by just watching the universe change on very large time scales.
If you're bored or lacking wonder you're not looking.
Sword Art Online is fantasy. Even a real version would be just that, another game. Also look up TFM on youtube. No more hints. Life extending technology will come, but not within the next hundred years. Sorry. Where is the third? "Every cutting edge of any discipline or art" is a number so large that we'd spend at least numerous days creating a list. If you go down a single path long enough you eventually realize that there is absolutely no end in sight to any endeavour that a human could possibly pursue. Quite on the contrary, the more you find the more potential questions you inevitably create. It doesn't stop here either, the rate at which you create new information (and henceforth objects and experiences) accelerates indefinitely. Hence, a literally infinite amount of potential new discoveries waits anywhere you decide to focus on. The remainder of my post was just an example which you grossly underestimated. By the time we have that level of VR we'll also be able to process much larger amounts of information and hence be capable of creating an abundance of worlds that humans are incapable of conceiving of today. Whether or not you choose to call that "just another game" is up to you, but life is virtually indistinguishable from games beyond the fact that you're dumped into this world as opposed to going through a character creation menu or just jumping straight into the game. And even that is questionable, as even the mere prospect of creating such virtual worlds while also being capable of manipulation memories begs the question: Have we chosen to play the game that we call life and willfully removed any trace of doing so to increase immersion or otherwise alter the experience? Quit stalling and name one more thing mister no-goals-in-life. There is no stalling taking place from my side. If you're still not getting the point you're either not trying or trolling. In either case, you're the problem if you're not satisfied with life as it is. Weren't right-wingers supposed to be all about taking responsibility of one's own life? How come then that you're avoiding the obvious limitless amounts of knowledge and experiences that life offers virtually everywhere? Not sure what the fuck "mister no goals in life" is supposed to mean here either. By the sounds of it you have resigned from life before you even started. Edit: In case you're literally retarded and not just baiting though, let me spell it out. You take a random discipline, say Physics. Now you look at recent papers. Voila, you've got a horizon beyond which there's undiscovered possibilities. Rinse and repeat by replacing Physics with literally anything else. And a 4th one for good measure: Crypto. Still shaping up. Or did your 8ball tell you what is going to happen to the tee? Edit2: You missed space travel from my original post. Which put us at three to begin with and thus suggests that you're not even reading the posts. Hence, you're a Roach level troll who starts shit, keeps baiting and who is not worth anyone's time. Prove me wrong or fuck off to ignore. Cheers. |
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Every cutting edge of any discipline or art and then some that haven't been conceived of yet. If the (by now almost blatantly obvious) prospect of fully immersive virtual realities doesn't tickle your fancy I don't know what will. The first baby steps have been taken (memory manipulation, trolling the brain, controlling shit with your brain), the rest is a question of time. Space travel is around the corner as well.
And for whoever is lucky enough to hit the threshold for longevity they'll be in for quite a wild ride, be it in VR or by just watching the universe change on very large time scales.
If you're bored or lacking wonder you're not looking.
Reasonable people can certainly disagree on this, and I recognize that my preferences are largely aesthetic, but your post illustrates a stark divergence between our worldviews. I believe that the Hobbesian fallacy is perpetuated as part of an effort to get us to accept what I see as continually degrading aesthetic expectations of the world around us. I understand that a global primary forest has no objective superiority to a global megalopolis, but for myself I have decided that I can tell a green field from a cold steel rail. I know which I prefer, call it religion if you must. You are really ready to accept a prepared VR experience as your life? OK, that's fine, I'm not. Since there's no need to choose right now I haven't made any calls as of yet, but would probably hover between what we call life now and all sorts of virtual experiences of the future (should I live to see the day). However, it would be a fallacy to assume that we aren't already in a situation where we chose this "reality" whilst erasing memories of doing so. And while you can tell the clumsily put together approximations of reality that we have now apart from the "real thing" the gap is rapidly closing. At some point you won't be able to tell which is which bar remembering. What if you erased your memory of this life not being "real" precisely because you found out that nothing really is and you felt like pretending that something was ground reality? Anyhow, that example was merely one that I hoped would hammer the nail in the coffin. The point being that your own imagination, efforts, and available time are the only relevant limits to creating or discovering new types of experience. Increasingly so as our abilities to process information and create out of it becomes better over time. |
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C'on Ibian, we have never in history lived better than we do for the past few decades. Or can you point out any moment in time you would have better preferred to live?
this depends entirely on the metrics you measure your quality of life with. Also, as always, social class has a great influence. I think I would be perfectly happy as a petty aristocrat in Roman Britain for example. For many, a life in a clean and abundant environment with actual unclaimed wonder over the horizon would be far preferable to today's dystopian prison web of interstate highways, satellites and "social media". If you don't see the horizon beyond which an infinite amount of unclaimed wonders can be found you should study more. I'm overwhelmed with the amount of shit that I would like to know and experience. Name two... no, three! Every cutting edge of any discipline or art and then some that haven't been conceived of yet. If the (by now almost blatantly obvious) prospect of fully immersive virtual realities doesn't tickle your fancy I don't know what will. The first baby steps have been taken (memory manipulation, trolling the brain, controlling shit with your brain), the rest is a question of time. Space travel is around the corner as well. And for whoever is lucky enough to hit the threshold for longevity they'll be in for quite a wild ride, be it in VR or by just watching the universe change on very large time scales. If you're bored or lacking wonder you're not looking. Sword Art Online is fantasy. Even a real version would be just that, another game. Also look up TFM on youtube. No more hints. Life extending technology will come, but not within the next hundred years. Sorry. Where is the third? "Every cutting edge of any discipline or art" is a number so large that we'd spend at least numerous days creating a list. If you go down a single path long enough you eventually realize that there is absolutely no end in sight to any endeavour that a human could possibly pursue. Quite on the contrary, the more you find the more potential questions you inevitably create. It doesn't stop here either, the rate at which you create new information (and henceforth objects and experiences) accelerates indefinitely. Hence, a literally infinite amount of potential new discoveries waits anywhere you decide to focus on. The remainder of my post was just an example which you grossly underestimated. By the time we have that level of VR we'll also be able to process much larger amounts of information and hence be capable of creating an abundance of worlds that humans are incapable of conceiving of today. Whether or not you choose to call that "just another game" is up to you, but life is virtually indistinguishable from games beyond the fact that you're dumped into this world as opposed to going through a character creation menu or just jumping straight into the game. And even that is questionable, as even the mere prospect of creating such virtual worlds while also being capable of manipulation memories begs the question: Have we chosen to play the game that we call life and willfully removed any trace of doing so to increase immersion or otherwise alter the experience? |
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Dear hodlers, I was an assidous poster in the "hodl" thread, I hodled for many years, because I know I am a bad trader. I felt a little bit scared during 2014 or so, but my investment was so little I didn't give really a fuck. During 2017 I turned maniac and I felt overinvested, but I did hodl as I was told to do. During 2018 I felt scared, but I hodled tight my paper wallet as i watched my new fortune fade away. Now, almost 2019, I turned on my old bitstamp account. I felt emotional when I retyped the password after many time, I know I am a bad trader and I shouldn't do thing like that. But I did. Today, I bought. In reality, my fiat is still travelling thought the bank system and my bank will require all today and tomorrow and a part of the day after in order to send the money, but I'm going to buy. It's a very small sum, but that's the first time since 2013 that I felt that hodling is not enough. Just checked in to write the mandatory wo post when someone buy or sell  Buying at this level sounds like a good trade to me. Just don't try to sell the top while dropping and never go all out. Do cash out some small portions of your profits during the next rally though, that way you'll hopefully be calmer during the next storm. |
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C'on Ibian, we have never in history lived better than we do for the past few decades. Or can you point out any moment in time you would have better preferred to live?
this depends entirely on the metrics you measure your quality of life with. Also, as always, social class has a great influence. I think I would be perfectly happy as a petty aristocrat in Roman Britain for example. For many, a life in a clean and abundant environment with actual unclaimed wonder over the horizon would be far preferable to today's dystopian prison web of interstate highways, satellites and "social media". If you don't see the horizon beyond which an infinite amount of unclaimed wonders can be found you should study more. I'm overwhelmed with the amount of shit that I would like to know and experience. Name two... no, three! Every cutting edge of any discipline or art and then some that haven't been conceived of yet. If the (by now almost blatantly obvious) prospect of fully immersive virtual realities doesn't tickle your fancy I don't know what will. The first baby steps have been taken (memory manipulation, trolling the brain, controlling shit with your brain), the rest is a question of time. Space travel is around the corner as well. And for whoever is lucky enough to hit the threshold for longevity they'll be in for quite a wild ride, be it in VR or by just watching the universe change on very large time scales. If you're bored or lacking wonder you're not looking. |
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What world are you living in if you say life has never been better? Ya these iphone and itablets bring true joy to our lives..........................
I'm quite fond of sanitation and central heating... I love food, and I'm very picky. I'd probably kill myself over an average meal from the past at this point (not really but close enough). Also, WO. |
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I'll be the odd man out, I believe in soulmates. Maybe it's just dumb luck or maybe it's something else but I think a lot of things are meant to be.
I'm very open for the idea, because some of the things that happened in my life were just too fucking weird for me to explain. There have been numerous instances where I just had a weird gut feeling that basically yelled at me to go down a path that turned out pretty much picture perfect. But I've studied enough statistics to know that it could very well be bullshit, so I'm not too invested in either case. Hoping for a "game over screen" that will clear this up after death (though not as much as for longevity and indefinite life spans). |
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