This is the BFL asshamster wheel - it works like a giant grape press. On the other side of the wall are Unicorns - they are squeezed and the Unicorn blood is condensed into ASICs.
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Wo ist jetzt eigentlich dieser "offizielle" BFL Thread? Wäre schön gewesen, wenn DiabloD3 nen Link angegeben hätte - aber irgendwie macht er ein Geheimnis draus. Naja - warum einfach, wenns auch kompliziert geht ...
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EDIT: Oh, they're in German Offtopic now. Yeah, ok. Machen wir halt auf deutsch weiter. Warum nicht?
Ja eben - brauche ich mich wenigstens nicht mehr anschnauzen zu lassen, dass mein English nicht gut genug (für Inaba) ist
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Is this "THE OFFICIAL BFL THREAD FOR ALL BFL TOPICS"?
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Frizz in your expert opinion who is on time and who will ship before March 1, 2013. I personally do not expect to see a product from anyone till March. Anyone who knows about fab and design knows there is no way( unless your Intel) that any company could turn out a new design and chip and product in less that 9 months and be profitable. It's just facts.
You already answered your own question From what I've seen so far Avalons approach seems to be the most reasonable - from an engineers point of view. As for BFL: What they have posted so far makes no sense at all. Either they are blatant liars - or they are the most dilettante company on this planet. Maybe they are really, really lucky - and can ship in March 2013. Maybe they vastly underestimated the complexity of ASICs - have to redesign, rework, postpone again and again - and finally run out of money. And never deliver. I'd say the probability of this is > 50%. imho
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ps were you trying to make a new account there, when you found the registration page fluked?
Wow! You are a genius, Watson. You caught me again
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Earlier Phinnaeus Gage doxed the BFL people. This post has been reported several times. I have decided to not delete the post. I think BFL is at the very least lying to people and at the very most trying to scam people, otherwise they would have shipped the product already.
Are you referring to this post? What concerns me is that I get the impression that Jody and Josh are not even in the same building most of the time. They talk as if they haven't seen each other in the workplace [in the same day]. Whats up with that? Why is Jody talking about it like it's the first shes heard of it? Isn't she GM (General Manager) and don't they see each other all of the time? Or is she a stay at home CS type of thing? (Serious question) why does she act like she just heard the latest word from the blog or a post? It's possible Jody Drake works from her office at home in front of the picture window watching her chickens. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jody-drake/13/556/4bahttp://www.awakeningworld.com/about.htmlJohn Mutrux uses the same studio/home: http://www.mutrux.com/http://asmp.org/community/chapters/chapter_profile.php?id=13Board Member John Mutrux 5217 England Merriam, KS 66203 (913) 722-4343 Work (913) 982-6120 Cell john@mutrux.comVice President Chris Vleisides 2507 Jefferson Kansas City, MO 64108 (816) 421-1077 Work chris@vpsphoto.comBoard Member Nicholas Vedros Nick V (?) ( EDIT: possibly wrong Nick--I was thinking of Nick W) 1510 Jarboe Street Kansas City, MO 64108 (816) 471-5488 Work (816) 471-2666 Fax nick.vedros@vedros.com well shit son. don't quote the whole thing, you'll get reported too. I can deal with that. BFL/Inaba thinks I'm the devil anyway ...
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Earlier Phinnaeus Gage doxed the BFL people. This post has been reported several times. I have decided to not delete the post. I think BFL is at the very least lying to people and at the very most trying to scam people, otherwise they would have shipped the product already.
Are you referring to this post? What concerns me is that I get the impression that Jody and Josh are not even in the same building most of the time. They talk as if they haven't seen each other in the workplace [in the same day]. Whats up with that? Why is Jody talking about it like it's the first shes heard of it? Isn't she GM (General Manager) and don't they see each other all of the time? Or is she a stay at home CS type of thing? (Serious question) why does she act like she just heard the latest word from the blog or a post? It's possible Jody Drake works from her office at home in front of the picture window watching her chickens. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jody-drake/13/556/4bahttp://www.awakeningworld.com/about.htmlJohn Mutrux uses the same studio/home: http://www.mutrux.com/http://asmp.org/community/chapters/chapter_profile.php?id=13Board Member John Mutrux 5217 England Merriam, KS 66203 (913) 722-4343 Work (913) 982-6120 Cell john@mutrux.comVice President Chris Vleisides 2507 Jefferson Kansas City, MO 64108 (816) 421-1077 Work chris@vpsphoto.comBoard Member Nicholas Vedros Nick V (?) ( EDIT: possibly wrong Nick--I was thinking of Nick W) 1510 Jarboe Street Kansas City, MO 64108 (816) 471-5488 Work (816) 471-2666 Fax nick.vedros@vedros.com
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why should it not be any ASIC company? I'm just curious about motives for the poll.
Again: Create your own poll for bASIC or Avalon if it pleases you. I started a BFL poll because they are blatant liars. ChipGeek/ab8989 wrote nice comments. BitSyncom concluded by saying: "I didn't want to entering a fight of words originally, but I am going to say it now. they lied and I'm disappointed." https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129566.msg1392696#msg1392696
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You mean you didn't read the new title of your own thread?
... that thread/title was created last week ... much could have changed since then. It's hard to keep up with Inaba/BFLs rate of excuses / new delivery dates / "press releases".
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Frizz23 has been banned. This is not Bitcointalk forums, rude and inappropriate behavior is not going to be tolerated here. ...
LOL. Double standards at least. Inaba is insulting people here on a daily basis, calling them idiots, pathological liars and whatnot. By the way: He's unusually quiet at the moment - seems all those "pathological liars" were right after all ... However, he was banned for creating the BFL_Mitt account and impersonating a BFL employee...
BFL_Mitt, yes, I remember that . I created BFL_Mitt and BFL_Obama during the 2012 elections. Have they not heard of them? Mitt Romney? Barack Obama? Hello?! It seems their forums are in f***ing China
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I got lost with BFLs updates/announcements/delays. 11th December was when Josh was gonna confirm that 24th chip delivery December date.
Are there any new updates/announcements/delays dates scheduled by BFL/Josh already?
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If they should get a scammer tag then so should every other company that has promised an asic by now and hasn't delivered. This poll is about BFL. If you wish create one for bASIC. And for Avalon.
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This a public forum and I am on topic so for "f*cks sake" grow up.
No you are not. This poll is about BFL. If you wish create one for bASIC. And for Avalon.
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This is BFL's first ASIC. Any fab that does 65nm has done thousands of runs of ASICs. BFL's lack of experience is the true cause of the delays. Not the fab.
So version 1 applies (BFL scams us). Because they claim that their fab can't keep deadlines, is hard to get hold on, etc. - while instead BFL is not able to manage the (65nm) process. And possibly never will be (within reasonable time (3 years) and reasonable budget (10 million USD)).
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Why should we not hold everyone by the same standards?
... rarara ...
Then for f*cks sake create your own poll! I am seriously sick of all this "OK BFL sucks but the others suck too" comments. How about your car? "OK Ford has only 3 tires and no engine - but look! BMW has not even steering wheel!". Does your logic apply there as well? Instead of lowering the bar we should aim to rise it - or at least keep it where it is.
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... it's why you need a truckload of accounts and identities ...
You are as repetitive as a Buddhist monk with your multiple-accounts mantra. I have no idea why you have to bring it up in each and every of your postings directed towards me? As you know I have been banned on BFL forum for asking "the wrong questions", doubting Inabas bullshit, etc. So I created a new account, made one posting - and got immediately banned again. Did this 3-4 times - then gave up. Their registration function is meanwhile out of order ( https://forums.butterflylabs.com/aitvbulletin/account/forum redirects to " Page not found") - so it seems BFL kicks out all the sceptical minds and lets no new ones in. So it's gonna be an asshamster-only forum soon. By the way: With a posting like yours recently I would have been banned for sure. So watch out! Maybe they say SLok is just another one of Frizz's fake accounts - and ban you https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/519-10-dec-2012-bfl-asic-update-5.html#post7841SLok: " wtf bfl customers are the laughing stock of the bitcoin community by now. I wish I never heard of the lot. Beats me why every "update" is always "a month later guys" at least. How can they say at this point in production 'we need 30 days more", just for completing the chips? That's not a production update with a realistic picture of what is needed and how long extra it is going to take, that is "we don't have a fucking clue" and we just picked some time frame out of thin air. "
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Tell me: What troubles you?
Take a wild guess, my little troll "friend". Um? Your life?
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... attention for your vendetta with BFL for not making your bitcoin mining calculator pipe dream come true, getting rich quick and escaping your marginal sucking day job? Good for you and the rest of the crying clowns here, another delay by bfl for at least a month. Cheer on!
Uhhhhhhhh ... you sound pretty angry my little asshamster friend Tell me: What troubles you?
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