X-3 doesn't exist? Since the backplane issue has been fixed I would consider it to exist.
A 5-hashing board prototype exists. The X-3 is a specific retail product that you have not shipped yet, therefore it does not exist. Now instead of being snarky and chiming in like a troll, go and get customers' questions answered. +1 time for a refund  . Edit: Don't forget to leave some feedback for our friends. |
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Have you file a claim with http://www.ic3.gov/complaint/default.aspx? I think you need to be proactive with this. I am still weighing my options as well. I have not received a reply since the initial generic email about their refund policy. My next guess is to look into contacting the local branch of HSBC to make sure they are aware of their bank being used to commit fraud. |
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Why don't you make a thread in the scammers section instead of polluting this thread?
I thought this would be relevant for other Blackarrow/Minersource customers. However, you are probably right. No one has said anything positive about my comments. So, I will stop adding to this. |
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They are selling PSUs for compensation units that are very unlikely to ever arrive. The X3s themselves do not currently exist. I believe the continued lies from BA and pushing back delivery of compensation units to an undisclosed date demonstrate this. You are welcome to disagree. I only posted information of how to contact Bitpay. I did not tell anyone to do so unless they believe they were scammed as well. If everyone agrees with you, then minersource has nothing to worry about. A quick update for anyone having problems with a BTC refund from minersource or another merchant who uses Bitpay. Here is the response I received from Bitpay,
"I have noted a complaint from you against the merchant. If a sufficient amount of complains accumulate, then we will take action on the merchant's account."
You can call Bitpay at (855) 424-8729 to leave a message if you would like to file a complaint. Make sure to leave your email address and they will contact you by email.
why are you being a fucking child who won't stop throwing a tantrum? Seriously do you want Minersource to not be able to accept bitcoins because you're a child? +1 Minersource has never scammed anyone. |
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Trusty ignore button for my trolling buddies Kingcolex and fivejonnyfive.
Attacking me personally does not change what I have to say. All I am asking for is minersource to return my BTC from their Blackarrow compensation PSU scam.
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A quick update for anyone having problems with a BTC refund from minersource or another merchant who uses Bitpay. Here is the response I received from Bitpay,
"I have noted a complaint from you against the merchant. If a sufficient amount of complains accumulate, then we will take action on the merchant's account."
You can call Bitpay at (855) 424-8729 to leave a message if you would like to file a complaint. Make sure to leave your email address and they will contact you by email.
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Funny how the wording in part's of your post is just like that of the last email I received from Dan over at minersource . Minersource committed fraud when they took people's money under false pretenses to perpetuate BA's scam. X3 units do not exist at present and I highly doubt anyone will receive compensation units for X3s or X1s. There will be more delays and problems with the PCBs. My bet is Blackarrow will be filling for bankruptcy right after they ship a few X3s and before anyone receives a refund from them. Minersource is responsible for what they sell on their site. I don't want to hear any of this crap that it's BA fault. You decided to resell their non-existent equipment, no one forced you. I am in contact with Bitpay and the FTC. I will continue to pursue this to the fullest. Well your buddies are refusing to give me a refund for the PSUs that they don't even possess and that were meant to solve a problem that they created. The compensation units are not real and will never ship. This is a scam. Minersource knowing or not participated in committing fraud.
They also offered to refund you the same amount of dollars you paid. Also: They'll probably be late, and it will probably be far from enough compensation, but I bet the compensation units will actually ship. Finally: Minersource in no way "created" any problem. They got the same promises from BA that we all did. And if they acted in good faith - and all evidence so far indicates that they did (I'm not extending that faith to BA, yet) then they were merely a victim of the fraud and not culpable as you suggest. The fact that you are unwilling to take any semblance of culpability for the fact that you ordered a unit which says directly on the page "No free shipping for non-minersource orders" and are subsequently bitching about having to pay for shipping - you have personality problems my friend. No hate. But seriously? Everybody else in this thread, including the employees of minersource, is frustrated with BA. Your problem is of YOUR OWN CREATION. It has been offered to be resolved for you for what I find to be fair terms and you reject them. nobody even refused you a refund. they offered you a refund in equivalent USD but you want the BTC amount. If the exchange rate went the other way, you'd want the USD amount. Take what you can get. QED. |
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I said the same thing about Terrahash and I received lots of hate for it. Then my posts were deleted. So, this response is expected. Welcome to Terrahash 2.0.
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Well your buddies are refusing to give me a refund for the PSUs that they don't even possess and that were meant to solve a problem that they created. The compensation units are not real and will never ship. This is a scam. Minersource knowing or not participated in committing fraud. They told me different before I ordered. Besides, why are defending them so much? Do you really think how they are handling this situation is okay? Update: Minersource contacted me and said that I need to pay another $30 for shipping or get a refund based on a reduced amount of BTC because the exchange rate has changed. They said they don't even have the PSUs in stock despite listing them on their website as "in stock" over a month ago. I filed a complaint with the FTC and I am waiting for a response from Minersource.  Anyone know which payment processing company they use, so I can contact them next? Just get a refund i don't see the issue. Sure they said it was instock but we all knew that wasn't the case and they should have converted it to fiat instantly if they were waiting on their supplier but since you are doing a refund from BA just take the refund. They accepted 0.8028 BTC under false pretenses for a product they do not even have. Why should they make money off the volatility in the BTC exchange rate? I should receive back the BTC I sent. They aren't making money. They converted your bitcoin directly to fiat and will now convert that fiat directly to bitcoin. Furthermore - minersource doesn't differentiate between "In Stock" and "Pre Order" in their store. Pre order items that are available for purchase say "In stock". Since they said "item ships for free with your current order" a reasonable person would assume these would get shipped when the miners get shipped. The x1 psus for instance are probably on their way with the miners. Seriously - calm down. You're falling out of your dress. I'm defending minersource because I think they're doing the best they can reasonably do and have gotten something of the shaft from BA just like the rest of us. I've ordered like 90% of the hardware I'm currently using from them and they're alright. |
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Really? Who are you anyway? By the way, they said they did not convert it to fiat. Instead, they use BA as a scape goat. Minersource said they sent the BTC to BA to pay for the PSUs. Update: Minersource contacted me and said that I need to pay another $30 for shipping or get a refund based on a reduced amount of BTC because the exchange rate has changed. They said they don't even have the PSUs in stock despite listing them on their website as "in stock" over a month ago. I filed a complaint with the FTC and I am waiting for a response from Minersource. Anyone know which payment processing company they use, so I can contact them next? Just get a refund i don't see the issue. Sure they said it was instock but we all knew that wasn't the case and they should have converted it to fiat instantly if they were waiting on their supplier but since you are doing a refund from BA just take the refund. They accepted 0.8028 BTC under false pretenses for a product they do not even have. Why should they make money off the volatility in the BTC exchange rate? I should receive back the BTC I sent. They aren't making money. They converted your bitcoin directly to fiat and will now convert that fiat directly to bitcoin. Furthermore - minersource doesn't differentiate between "In Stock" and "Pre Order" in their store. Pre order items that are available for purchase say "In stock". Since they said "item ships for free with your current order" a reasonable person would assume these would get shipped when the miners get shipped. The x1 psus for instance are probably on their way with the miners. Seriously - calm down. You're falling out of your dress. Either accept the refund from Minersource or get the order number that minersource received for the payment and try the get the btc from BA. |
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By the way, they said they did not convert it to fiat. Instead, they use BA as a scape goat. Minersource said they sent the BTC to BA to pay for the PSUs. Update: Minersource contacted me and said that I need to pay another $30 for shipping or get a refund based on a reduced amount of BTC because the exchange rate has changed. They said they don't even have the PSUs in stock despite listing them on their website as "in stock" over a month ago. I filed a complaint with the FTC and I am waiting for a response from Minersource. Anyone know which payment processing company they use, so I can contact them next? Just get a refund i don't see the issue. Sure they said it was instock but we all knew that wasn't the case and they should have converted it to fiat instantly if they were waiting on their supplier but since you are doing a refund from BA just take the refund. They accepted 0.8028 BTC under false pretenses for a product they do not even have. Why should they make money off the volatility in the BTC exchange rate? I should receive back the BTC I sent. They aren't making money. They converted your bitcoin directly to fiat and will now convert that fiat directly to bitcoin. Furthermore - minersource doesn't differentiate between "In Stock" and "Pre Order" in their store. Pre order items that are available for purchase say "In stock". Since they said "item ships for free with your current order" a reasonable person would assume these would get shipped when the miners get shipped. The x1 psus for instance are probably on their way with the miners. Seriously - calm down. You're falling out of your dress. |
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They told me different before I ordered. Besides, why are defending them so much? Do you really think how they are handling this situation is okay? Update: Minersource contacted me and said that I need to pay another $30 for shipping or get a refund based on a reduced amount of BTC because the exchange rate has changed. They said they don't even have the PSUs in stock despite listing them on their website as "in stock" over a month ago. I filed a complaint with the FTC and I am waiting for a response from Minersource. Anyone know which payment processing company they use, so I can contact them next? Just get a refund i don't see the issue. Sure they said it was instock but we all knew that wasn't the case and they should have converted it to fiat instantly if they were waiting on their supplier but since you are doing a refund from BA just take the refund. They accepted 0.8028 BTC under false pretenses for a product they do not even have. Why should they make money off the volatility in the BTC exchange rate? I should receive back the BTC I sent. They aren't making money. They converted your bitcoin directly to fiat and will now convert that fiat directly to bitcoin. Furthermore - minersource doesn't differentiate between "In Stock" and "Pre Order" in their store. Pre order items that are available for purchase say "In stock". Since they said "item ships for free with your current order" a reasonable person would assume these would get shipped when the miners get shipped. The x1 psus for instance are probably on their way with the miners. Seriously - calm down. You're falling out of your dress. |
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Plus if you buy something and pay in full they can't come back to you and say you need to pay more because the exchange rate dropped just get the refund chap you don't need the psu any way if your getting a refund from BA
The point is I did not buy something. They don't even have it. Edit: I did contact them before buying and they said they would sent it out without charging for more shipping. Their message made it sound like the PSUs were in stock and would be shipped shortly. That was over a month ago. |
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Update: Minersource contacted me and said that I need to pay another $30 for shipping or get a refund based on a reduced amount of BTC because the exchange rate has changed. They said they don't even have the PSUs in stock despite listing them on their website as "in stock" over a month ago. I filed a complaint with the FTC and I am waiting for a response from Minersource. Anyone know which payment processing company they use, so I can contact them next? Just get a refund i don't see the issue. Sure they said it was instock but we all knew that wasn't the case and they should have converted it to fiat instantly if they were waiting on their supplier but since you are doing a refund from BA just take the refund. They accepted 0.8028 BTC under false pretenses for a product they do not even have. Why should they make money off the volatility in the BTC exchange rate? I should receive back the BTC I sent. |
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Have you already paid for your order
Unfortunately, I did on May 14. This is for the PSUs. I am beginning a separate process for a refund from BA. |
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Update: Minersource contacted me and said that I need to pay another $30 for shipping or get a refund based on a reduced amount of BTC because the exchange rate has changed. They said they don't even have the PSUs in stock despite listing them on their website as "in stock" over a month ago. I filed a complaint with the FTC and I am waiting for a response from Minersource. Anyone know which payment processing company they use, so I can contact them next? |
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I didn't place the original order with Minersource! I ordered before minersource was an affiliate and will receive my orders directly from BA. The only reason I ordered the PSUs from them is they listed them as "in stock" and are based in the US. What do you say bobsag3? Are you going to ship my PSUs or issue a refund? It says right on their site it ships with your order. "PSU Ships for free if ordered with enough time to be shipped with your current order." http://minersource.net/products/black-arrow-prospero-x1-spare-psu-for-compensation-units-onlyOur first units have been confirmed via Tracking to have left Black Arrow, ETA is Friday/Saturday/Monday depending on the UPS Express timing. Our next shipment is to leave BA Monday/Tuesday, that should comprise of the rest of Batch One, and almost all if not all of Batch 2 and 3. More information to follow.
None of these units have LCDs, I was informed they would be ready after the shipment next week.
I contacted customer support at minersource and received no response. When are you going to ship the compensation PSUs that I paid for over a month ago (May 14th)? |
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Our first units have been confirmed via Tracking to have left Black Arrow, ETA is Friday/Saturday/Monday depending on the UPS Express timing. Our next shipment is to leave BA Monday/Tuesday, that should comprise of the rest of Batch One, and almost all if not all of Batch 2 and 3. More information to follow.
None of these units have LCDs, I was informed they would be ready after the shipment next week.
I contacted customer support at minersource and received no response. When are you going to ship the compensation PSUs that I paid for over a month ago (May 14th)? |
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It would seem that this 2011 S1 brass Casascius 1 BTC coin was funded on 7/26/2012...? Very odd late funding for an S1 Holo... http://casascius.uberbills.com/?address=1EKjTxmjQucLVqinrhBidPfBpNSPGELi7qDoes seller have any idea on the history of this coin? Realizing that you are just trying to help a brother quickly convert an asset, it still might assist seller, buyer and price to have a bit of back story here if possible... This sounds fishy to me. I remember buying some 2011 series 1 and series 2 coins in late 2011. How is this possible that a series 1 was sold so late? I'm out until this can be cleared up. |
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