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1121  Economy / Economics / Re: Gold: I smell a trap on: September 06, 2011, 05:58:20 PM
massive USD/CHF move of 9.53%

The move is no surprise. Zurich decreed (pdf) they would peg 1.2 EUR (minimum) with unlimited printing. For all we know, Zurich executed 100% of all CHF sells (EUR:CHF 5 days). Perhaps with all those EUR and USD, Switzerland can expand the Confederation.
1122  Economy / Economics / Re: Gold: I smell a trap on: September 06, 2011, 05:01:35 PM
I'm still surprised the news about the swiss franc had such a counter intuitive effect.

Counter intuitive? CHF value dropped 8% precisely to 1.2 EUR after the Swiss bank announced they will print unlimited numbers of CHF in order to peg 1.2 EUR. I'd say the market reacted symphonically.

But this has me convinced gold will continue higher and higher still. Even the strong currencies are devaluating. Unless the US defaults, I don't see any upper limit to gold and silver. Yes, I'm an inflationist.
1123  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in France: first legal decision directly related to Bitcoin? on: September 06, 2011, 04:55:20 PM
It looks like money, it feels like money, it can replace other kinds of money, it can be used as money... Quite a can of worms if you think about it.

Whatever we think of it is legally irrelevant. Perhaps it will define a new asset class. But if the European Union accepts bitcoin as money, to settle all debts public and private...
1124  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in France: first legal decision directly related to Bitcoin? on: September 06, 2011, 04:08:25 PM
1) What is the issue to become an official bank for MtGox?

I discussed setting up a financial business with my lawyer in Denmark (because of certain off-shore legal properties) and found the 2009 Consolidation Act quite interesting. The first two pages list numerous previous laws (many European) that this act considers/consolidates/supersedes. It breaks businesses into a number of categories, credit, investment, insurance, etc for those located within, without, and dealing with customers within and without Europe. It looked like one million EUR just to start the process.

But I agree with Tux's defense in summary. Bitcoin is not money any more than collectors items such as baseball cards, prime numbers, or gold. Ben confirmed under oath that gold is not money, but the European Union reserves a special legal place exclusively to gold and no other commodity. If bitcoin is money, that opens up a larger can of worms for the EU.
1125  Economy / Speculation / Re: Comparison to Apple (AAPL) shares on: September 06, 2011, 03:19:36 PM
This is exactly the case: It is a contrarian indicator. If all the mainstream news and newspapers write about that the dollar will collapse , it is very close to do the opposite.
I.e. see the chart for USDCHF. A typical tiring downtrend as evidenced by the wedge formation. Above the 0.835-0.84 zone is breakout to RALLY:


0.79 to 0.86 from this morning's breakfast to high tea in Zurich.

1126  Economy / Economics / Re: Deflation and Bitcoin, the last word on this forum on: September 06, 2011, 12:29:52 AM
Monetarily, bitcoin is far from deflationary and won't be monetarily stable for years. The fact that prior to this northern summer, the demand outpaced the supply does not imply that bitcoin is or will be inherently deflationary, only that bitcoin were appreciating against most other currencies in the past. Electronics are deflationary because the good actually loses value as newer, faster, smaller, better, cheaper electronics come on the market. Unless owners are hoarding the majority of their wealth in bitcoin, bitcoin appreciation should not detract from investment in bitcoin projects. Is the converse true, that with rapid bitcoin devaluation over the last few months, investment is surging?
1127  Economy / Economics / Re: Ron Paul and Bitcoin on: September 05, 2011, 07:23:08 PM
I'm not going to lie, flying in and seeing the land from above damn near had me in tears it was so beautiful. Sitting out along the coast of Nuuk and just looking out at the water and mountains is also a very serene experience.

Yeah, and the skies are most often clear, visibility unlimited, boring sunsets/rises are rare, something about the air (dry ambient light?) is perfect for photos. Mountains shoot a kilometer vertical from the sea. Either midnight sun or glorious northern lights a few nights a week.

Reindeer is good and muskox is quite tasty too. And its all 100% free range organic fresh and cheap (in season). Fish, whale, and seal is an acquired delicacy. Smiley Most everything imported (which is a lot of 'normal' food) is very expensive. Like a wilted yellow broccoli for $10, but we have abundant vitamin rich flora four months of the year. Most of my veggies are frozen, milk is sealed ultra pasteurized, eggs are expensive. There has been some success growing barley and other grain in the south which hadn't grown there in 400 years. We've got potatoes and such in the fjord whose output is small, but packed with flavor and vitamins (the best though most expensive strawberries come from near the arctic region, such as Norway).

Living in the city here is as I imagine it will be like to live on Mars. Its extremely modern though you never lose touch of the extremities around you.

We've got flight connections through Copenhagen and Iceland. There are charters from Canada and the States, typically from the mining and oil industry, but also tourist scientific expeditions.

Min kæreste er en smuk dansker. Er du dansk?
1128  Economy / Economics / Re: The Dichotomy Of a Bubble - Why Bitcoin Will Endure on: September 05, 2011, 05:21:08 PM
"Not a bubble now" or "wasn't a bubble in June"? Because Nasdaq 1997 to present looks suspiciously like bitcoin late May to present. Nasdaq may endure just as bitcoin may endure.
Fair enough, I'm not in the same league as chodpaba when it comes to making models for forecasts. All I really wanted to prove was based on prior bubbles, bitcoin doesn't behave like one.

...any longer. Bitcoin went parabolic in May and overshot in June. Unlike Nasdaq (though a bit like Gold), bitcoin has done this several times in the past score months, most notably October, November 2010.


1129  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin growth - The Long View on: September 05, 2011, 04:56:18 PM
! Buying( bitcoin ) --> ( Interested( bitcoin) | ! Interested( bitcoin ) )

BINGO! That people are not buying bitcoin tells us nothing about its perceived value (interest).
1130  Economy / Economics / Re: Ron Paul and Bitcoin on: September 05, 2011, 02:34:55 PM
rofl where in Greenland are you? I was in Nuuk and Kangerlussuaq and Kulusuk a few months ago.

Fascinating place. The places humanity will go...

I live in Qinngorput, Nuuk. Just climbed down from 1657m north of Kapisillit by the ice sheet where it was snowing horizontal.

Greenland is paradise. You get used to the cold, it's dry and gorgeous. Half of my calories in the last week were from blueberries, black berries, gooseberries, mushrooms, reindeer, and washed it all down with 100000 year old glacier water.

I figure if the global economy gets bad, it'll be really bad in Greenland. But we're experimenting with greenhouses (hydro-electricity is cheap and plentiful) and there's a good chance we have some of the largest untapped oil fields in the world. Still, temperate fruits, veggies, and dairy will be seriously reduced from my winter diet.

But if it gets Armageddon bad, Greenland is about the only place I'd want to be. We can be 100% self-sufficient and we practice it every once in a while (for example, the Iceland volcanic ash clouds knocked out all perishable imports and exports for a month).

But as far as escape plan, after what signal would you decide to move? Let's say hyperinflation kicks in and prices are doubling monthly. Even if you could afford a plane ticket, do you think the planes are gonna be on the same schedules to remote locations?
1131  Other / Politics & Society / Re: I've contemplated why man has created government... on: September 01, 2011, 01:40:59 AM
Take a look at page four of an USA passport:
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8. Loss of U.S. Citizenship: Under certain circumstances, you
may lose your U.S. Citizenship by performing voluntarily and with
the intention to relinquish U.S. citizenship, any of the following
acts: (1) being naturalized to a foreign state; (2) taking an oath or
making a declaration to a foreign state; (3) serving in the armed
forces of a foreign state (4) accepting employment with a foreign
government; or (5) formally renouncing U.S. citizenship before a U.S.
consular officer overseas.
...
You may continue to have U.S. tax liability even if you lose U.S.
nationality.

and from the State Dept: Renunciation of U.S. Citizenship

and US Tax Form 2555-EZ (pdf) if your income is exclusively foreign earned (up to 91500 USD is exempt if you haven't set foot in the States for more than 34 days and other fine print).
1132  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Suggestions for TradeHill on: September 01, 2011, 01:24:06 AM
I'd like to order that you order your orders...



by price not chronology.
1133  Economy / Economics / Re: The Dichotomy Of a Bubble - Why Bitcoin Will Endure on: September 01, 2011, 12:54:41 AM
Conclusion: Not a bubble folks, keep your eyes on the ticker for new developments.

"Not a bubble now" or "wasn't a bubble in June"? Because Nasdaq 1997 to present looks suspiciously like bitcoin late May to present. Nasdaq may endure just as bitcoin may endure.
1134  Economy / Goods / Re: Greenlandic tupilaks (and other traditional arctic crafts and knives) on: August 31, 2011, 03:21:46 AM
Muskox bone is textured and very beautiful. I'm sailing and climbing north of Kapisillit near the icesheet (1657m, top right of map) late tomorrow and should be back next week with photos of some bone options. I'll also have more clarity on US shipping and import law then (if not tomorrow).



UPDATE: OK, so these pieces are nearly the same shape. They are carved into humpback whale tails (a glorious site to see the broad tail as these beasts dive deep).  On the left below is reindeer antler (reversed in the other photo). The reindeer is a particularly nice piece because the colors look a bit like a whale does (though much lighter). But in the middle below is muskox horn carved quite thin (but still indestructible) and colors come through in beautiful patterns. In other words, it matches everything. You boys might not know this, but your girlfriends want this.

These whale tails and Nuummioq are going for $32 or €25.




1135  Economy / Goods / Re: Greenlandic tupilaks (and other traditional arctic crafts and knives) on: August 31, 2011, 03:00:00 AM
You have some lovely stuff on offer!  How did you come into contact with the artists?  Are you from Greenland yourself?

I know some of the artists personally, which is a given considering there are only 57 000 people on the entire island though it's 3x bigger than Texas or France.


I'm in the United States, and collect art.  I might be interested in both small/inexpensive pieces of work that I can give as gifts for birthdays and Christmas

That would be a good idea. You'll get nailed on the shipping, but I can bundle a bunch in the same package for about the same shipping price. I'll take a photograph of some samples in the small/inexpensive range.


I'd prefer to avoid items made from material from polar bears or other endangered species; it's one thing for the Inuit to hunt them or defend themselves from attack, and a completely different matter for somebody to buy items made of that stuff and thereby bump up collector demand for it.

Mentioning polar bear was a marketing stunt. It's available but few can afford it. We try to scare the bears away from town, not kill them. I prefer to think the Greenlanders would not be tempted to poach bears for any price.

Note that seal are not endangered, but I believe the US has an import ban on all sea mammalian products. I'll double check.


I'd also prefer to avoid items intended to curse enemies, just so that I can honestly tell recipients what their gift is for and not freak them out. (Some relatives are prone to be superstitious or might have religious objections.)  But charms and other items whose original intent was not to hurt people would be fine.

The tradition is to curse. In fact... this gets complicated... people only die because they've disrespected life, whether animals or fellow man. If someone dies, it's assumed he was cursed. Maybe he deserved it. For example, when a seal is hunted it is thanked, the seal is respected, the spirit is fed water and offered gifts. If the seal is honored he may help the hunter in the future otherwise he may harm the hunter. A great hunter respects his prey. If he dies, it was probably because someone was jealous.

Anyway, in the past tupilak were pretty rare. Today with some tourist opportunity tupilak are more common and no curse is attached to them. To activate them you'd take some hair from the victim, perhaps some blood, and drown it with the tupilak. Or something like that. I'll go search for a more authoritative exploitation explanation.

Its all intent, but the tradition is for magic not beauty. Other fine bone sculptures and figures are also common today such as polar bears and whale (made from reindeer bone/antler). These can be necklaces too. In fact, seal claws are pretty wild looking, though I don't think I can export them to the States.


I'll take a 3 BTC one, made out of the most endangered animal you're allowed to ship to the US

What are endangered and what are illegal to import have little to do with each other. Some seal and whale which are not endangered are still illegal to be imported into the United States. I won't trade in endangered species anyway. How about the most 'exotic' from an American perspective, like muskox, sledge dog, arctic hare?


malevolent purpose within that price range.  That is, I'd prefer one that's supposed to kill over one to curse, and one that's designed to kill your enemy, his children, and his children's children over one that's just supposed to kill your enemy.

Interesting. Well part of that is upon you, like digging up their ancestors or extracting their blood, semen, spit, etc. I'll see what I can dig up. Smiley


Shoot me a pm with the shipping costs before you buy anything though.

If you get some friends together, I can send a combined package. Otherwise I think the shipping cost might be on par with the piece. Though, Kgo, as we've done business together in the past, I might use you as the guinea pig sale. I'll accept the risks.
1136  Economy / Goods / Re: Greenlandic tupilaks (and other traditional arctic crafts and knives) on: August 31, 2011, 02:40:03 AM
Greenlandic Tupilak

Handmade cursed figures carved from reindeer antler

18cm (7 inches)

USD$ 160 or EUR€ 125, free shipping world-wide (latest price)





1137  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: TED discussion - Bitcoin - Commerce without Borders on: August 31, 2011, 01:58:04 AM
Evoorhees, I applaud your efforts. I did not get a chance to read the TED page, but I would have thought TED would be receptive to nouveau Technology Et Design.

like it's the best kept secret ever

But in general, I have to admit Tasty Champa makes a good point. People are impressed with results not ideas. Of the Jungian sensing/intuition dichotomy, 70% of people prefer (perceive the world through) sensing rather than intuition (saying nothing of general resistance to advertising).

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Sensing and intuition are the information-gathering (perceiving) functions. They describe how new information is understood and interpreted. Individuals who prefer sensing are more likely to trust information that is in the present, tangible and concrete: that is, information that can be understood by the five senses. They tend to distrust hunches, which seem to come "out of nowhere." They prefer to look for details and facts. For them, the meaning is in the data. On the other hand, those who prefer intuition tend to trust information that is more abstract or theoretical, that can be associated with other information (either remembered or discovered by seeking a wider context or pattern). They may be more interested in future possibilities. They tend to trust those flashes of insight that seem to bubble up from the unconscious mind. The meaning is in how the data relates to the pattern or theory.

1138  Economy / Economics / Re: Ron Paul and Bitcoin on: August 30, 2011, 07:17:32 PM
As for me, I have already started planning my escape.

My buddy is teaching survival courses up in Greenland. We've got gobs of ancient pristine water, plenty of wildlife and fish, and a culture prepared to go medieval. You can stay at my place, with gorgeous views of the mountains and sea.
1139  Economy / Goods / Greenlandic tupilaks (and other traditional arctic crafts and knives) on: August 30, 2011, 07:09:05 PM
Hi sub-arctic friends,

I'm selling Greenlandic tupilaks which are traditional magic figures made from bone (sorry I'm not exporting human bone, don't ask), claws, tusks, or more recently from precious metals. These often-grotesque statues are used to curse or magically kill enemies, though none of those I'm selling will have been 'activated' Smiley. All of them are hand made from native wild animals such as reindeer, muskox, pheasant, fox, seal, whale, walrus, and polar bear (can not export sea mamals to most countries).

Shipping is a bit slow and expensive from Greenland, but otherwise I can get good deals on the pieces and the profits will be shared with the artists. They come in numerous shapes and sizes, from cute to ugly and scary. Key chains are about 7 BTC, large complex pieces can be 50 BTC or much more. I'm also selling beautiful hand-made modern and traditional knives, but first, I'd like to scope out the interest. Let me know what country you are in so we can trade only legal animal products. Note that the Greenlanders use and consume all of the animal even when killed in self defense, the sale of these products support the local economy.

Wikipedia has a decent description

Google images




1140  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Bitcoin -> Zimbabwe Xchange on: August 30, 2011, 06:11:20 PM
I'd like high denomination(s). How many do you have and in what condition?

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