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1121  Economy / Economics / Bitcoincharts current price out of sync on: November 18, 2013, 08:22:27 PM

Bitcoincharts at 2013-11-18 12:15

Something's wrong here. The "latest price" is far outside the bid-ask range. Did the market cross and lock up, or is this just Bitcoincharts being broken again?
1122  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Next difficulty ~670,000,000 ? on: November 18, 2013, 06:44:39 AM
it is getting very, very difficult for newcomers of bitcoin to get into the mining action.
i think mining is where you learn the majority of what you need tdo know about btc and if people aren't offered this... i worry about the future of btc.
Remember, mining is more than half over. More than half of the potential Bitcoins have already been mined. It's all uphill from here. Mining is not how you get into Bitcoin unless you have access to a wafer fab.
1123  Economy / Exchanges / Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] on: November 15, 2013, 03:36:39 AM
once if liquidity returns, wouldn't trust return as well?
No.
1124  Economy / Exchanges / Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] on: November 14, 2013, 06:32:25 PM
Money stuck in exchanges keeps the Bitcoin price artificially high. If Mt.Gox ever processes all withdrawals, more people will convert to fiat to get their money out. So prepare for a price drop when they do.
It might also increase trust in bitcoin and the ecosystem, which could lead to another run-up.
Mt. Gox is almost irrelevant to Bitcoin at this point. Since they're not paying out USD (at all) or EUR (much), and only an idiot would deposit there, most of the "volume" there has to be the same money sloshing back and forth within Mt. Gox.
1125  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC $100 difference between the exchanges on: November 13, 2013, 08:32:17 PM
Therefore MtGox's prices are higher due to a BTC shortage, not a ca$h shortage.

Correct, the inability to get ca$h out of the exchange in a timely and reliable manner creates a surplus of ca$h already in the exchange.  The fastest way to withdraw value from the exchange is to convert the ca$h into BTCTC, withdraw the BTCTC, and sell them elsewhere.  This outflow of BTCTC creates a BTCTC shortage.  The ca$h surplus and BTCTC shortage naturally results in an increase in exchange rate as expressed in the form of $/BTC (or a decrease in exchange rate as expressed in the form of BTC/$).

That's a problem local to Mt. Gox.  Legit exchanges where you can get money out don't have that problem.
1126  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Mining computing crisis on: November 13, 2013, 05:29:58 AM
That's a Litecoin commercial.

"Gold mining is getting too hard. Let's mine tin instead!"
1127  Economy / Speculation / Is this runup being driven by a lack of dollars for conversion from yuan? on: November 12, 2013, 04:46:48 AM
This runup is clearly being driven by buying activity from China. BTC China is now the biggest exchange. Bitcoins provide a legal (more or less) way to convert yuan to dollars or euros. (This normally requires permission from the State Administration for Foreign Exchange.)

But why is the runup so fast? Possibly because there aren't enough dollars flowing into the Bitcoin exchanges to satisfy the demand from sellers in China. People in China who want to convert yuan to dollars or euros don't intend to stay in Bitcoins for long. But they don't care what the Bitcoin exchange rate is, only what the yuan-Bitcoin-dollar exchange rate is for the brief period they're in Bitcoins.

Hm.

 
1128  Economy / Exchanges / Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] on: November 11, 2013, 07:07:17 AM
So many trolls hating on mtgox, reminds me of the 2011 spectacle. Good thing I didn't listen then, and won't listen now. Still haven't lost a single bitcoin to faulty services.... Seems a lot of people are confusing security with fast money transfers.
One could have said the same thing about Bernie Madoff's fund right up to the bankruptcy.
1129  Economy / Speculation / Re: If chinese bulls can cause this madness, what can chinese bears do? on: November 09, 2013, 06:33:33 PM
Don't understimate the utility value to the Chinese of Bitcoin as a method to convert CNY to USD and move it out of the country. ...
Of course if this does get to large the Chinese government may choose to do something highly negative about it - but in the meantime enjoy the scramble.
That's it, exactly. This Bitcoin run-up looks like a rush to do just that before the People's Bank of China stops it.

A caution for users in China: if, at some point, the PRC decides that Bitcoin transfers in and out of China are undesirable, the Bitcoin protocol could be blocked by the Great Firewall of China.
1130  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: TradeHill / Jered Kenna on: November 09, 2013, 05:38:53 AM
Keep trying and stay pleasant and nice.
That was back in May. Now, it's time to file a police report and get an arrest warrant for fraud and theft issued for Jered Kenna.
1131  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Safest exchange to use long term on: November 09, 2013, 05:30:41 AM
Well just steer clear of gox for now. Bitstamp and tradehill look good atm.
Tradehill ceased operations months ago and seems to have run off with customer funds.  If they owe you money, file a police report and get a warrant issued for Jared.
1132  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Can you contact Tradehill? on: November 09, 2013, 05:26:42 AM
This is the point at which you file a police report for fraud.

It's someone in the US, and you have names and addresses.  They can be found and arrested.
1133  Economy / Economics / Re: There is a need for a Bitcoin Bank on: November 08, 2013, 04:39:52 AM
There have been several Bitcoin banks. They've either been scams or they've been hacked.

I'd like to see a Bitcoin broker/dealer that was registered as a broker/dealer in a major country, with audits and customer insurance.
1134  Economy / Speculation / Re: When Will India Explode? on: November 08, 2013, 04:31:11 AM
With the Chinese driving the bitcoin market at breakneck speeds now, I'm kind of wondering when India will "jump on board".

Does anyone know much about the Indian market and have any thoughts on what is happening or will happen there?
I bet the reason you think of India because of its population is second to China, so the effect would be the same huh?
No, that's not the issue. The issue is that India, like China, has exchange controls on money. A legal way around those exchange controls is valuable.

Until 2012, India didn't tax gold imports. Now they do, at 10%. Hence gold smuggling. India has been tightening up their exchange controls lately, so if Bitcoin starts being used as a way to convert rupees to something more useful outside India, there will probably be Bitcoin controls.

China, on the other hand, is loosening their exchange controls. The economy in China is so strong they don't really need them.
1135  Economy / Exchanges / Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] on: November 06, 2013, 06:43:39 AM
Having BTC withdraw issues now @ Gox.

Been waiting hours and have multiple BTC withdraws that still haven't showed up on blockchain.

On IRC they are saying that it's because of the large number of transactions that gox is processing right now (in the last hours or so over 2000 were performed allegedly).
Man, I think Gox's volume is now above Forex, first they overwhelm the traditional banking system, then they overwhelm the whole Bitcoin network, what's next? Gox's huuuuuuuge volume is going to make the earth implode?
You can look at Gox's transaction history. They do a few transactions a minute. In terms of transactions per minute, Gox is at the level of a busy fast food outlet.
1136  Economy / Exchanges / Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] on: October 31, 2013, 04:37:20 PM
USD have to pass through US banks, which aren't very cooperative.  I think there are still withdrawals left dating back to mid June.
Enough with the bullshit. Nobody has reported that a US bank has refused an incoming wire transfer from Mt. Gox. If there's a problem on the bank side (which is questionable; Mt. Gox has never offered any concrete proof of this) it's at the sending end in Japan.

Mt. Gox doesn't seem to be having any trouble getting wire transfers from the US. If some limits were being applied at the US end, there would be trouble sending to Mt. Gox from the US.
1137  Economy / Exchanges / Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] on: October 30, 2013, 06:33:26 PM
It is important to remember that the mtgox btc valuation is artificially high because of them being blacklisted by as much of the fiat banking system the USG can influence. So, transferring the btc to another exchange and selling it is only realizing what the btc are really worth.

Enough with the conspiracy theories. Mt. Gox's troubles are due to Mt. Gox.

This has been going on for months. If Mt. Gox really wanted a high-volume banking arrangement, they would have found one by now. But they seem to find having excuses for non-payment more useful. This suggests they don't have the depositors' money.
1138  Economy / Speculation / Re: What would be the best way to arbitrage between the exchanges on: October 28, 2013, 06:49:15 AM
Another arbitrage issue is that much of the current run-up is being driven by exchanges in China. But if you sell Bitcoins for yuan, it's hard to get the yuan out of the country or convert them into some other currency.  So you can't easily arbitrage between the yuan-only China exchanges and the ones in other currencies.
1139  Economy / Exchanges / Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] on: October 26, 2013, 07:08:30 PM
If you want to do that, there are time limits on how long you can claim against a forfeiture. Get legal advice fast.

If you were to sue Mt. Gox in Delaware small claims court, and win (or they don't show up), you'd have a US judgement against them. (Mt. Gox created a legal presence in Delaware so they could register with FinCen. That provides an entity you can sue in Delaware.)

Then you can try to collect from funds the US Government is holding. According to Japanese law, if Mt. Gox is a Payment Services Agency, you own the money; you're not just a creditor of Mt. Gox. That puts you in a stronger position to claim against a forfeiture.  Again, get legal advice.
I'd have to believe that the statute of limitations does not make it imperative that I file with all haste. 
The rules under forfeiture law are tough. You may only have 60 days after the forfeiture.

Unless the court for good cause sets a different time, the claim must be filed: ...
(C) if notice was not published and direct notice was not sent to the claimant or the claimant's attorney" ...
If the property was not in the government's possession, custody, or control when the complaint was filed ... 60 days after process was executed on the property under Rule G(3).


It may already be too late to file against the Dwolla forfeiture. Talk to a lawyer.
1140  Economy / Exchanges / Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] on: October 25, 2013, 06:57:00 PM
I figure it most likely that if I want to see my $5k, I'll need to attempt to obtain it through the legal system of the US govt which holds directly $5M and can make a grab for another $5M from the probably scattered parties associated with Coinlabs.  Anyone have any thoughts about what data I might solicit in order to pursue such an adventure?
If you want to do that, there are time limits on how long you can claim against a forfeiture. Get legal advice fast.

If you were to sue Mt. Gox in Delaware small claims court, and win (or they don't show up), you'd have a US judgement against them. (Mt. Gox created a legal presence in Delaware so they could register with FinCen. That provides an entity you can sue in Delaware.)

Then you can try to collect from funds the US Government is holding. According to Japanese law, if Mt. Gox is a Payment Services Agency, you own the money; you're not just a creditor of Mt. Gox. That puts you in a stronger position to claim against a forfeiture.  Again, get legal advice.
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