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1221  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: July 15, 2017, 05:16:27 AM
I just do it for fun, I think if you take gambling seriously you'll just be stressed and triggered. The more you lose the chances are you'll end up betting for more, same as you win, you will just

crave for more money. So, it's better if you just do it for fun.


Well, not everyone can do gambling for Fun. For Fun gambling means that you do not care about winning or losing and play it for fun only.  This can be done for those only who have a lot of money with them. I mostly like gambling to earn the money and profit and sometimes when i lose it really make me sad, as its my hard earned money which is at stake and eventually lost.
majority of people come to casino only for the purpose to make money and not to get fun and enjoyment. I do not think that they can afford to play gambling for fun and enjoyment and put their money in risk.
you must be have a small environment there in your place , if you go play around in real casino , meet and make a friend with a lot of people there you would know that there's a lot of people coming there not for the sake of money . but a high level taste people really choose gambling as their entertainment. they never believe could make money through gambling. they are fully responsible on what they are doing.
1222  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What do you feel when win in gambling? on: July 15, 2017, 05:08:23 AM
Winning feels good! Of course, it is very blissful. It is like the feeling of being a one-time millionaire. You feel you want it to happen again. Some who wins in gambling will just use the money to play again, to try their luck again. Sometimes they get lucky and sometimes the worst is about to happen. I haven’t experience win in gambling, but if I do, I will not bet the money again. I will leave or left the site and keep the money.
nah i believe that's what a lot of people feeling. but mostly all of that just a temporary feeling get a huge glory and celebrate here and there. don't go crazy to spend it all in a single day , as you might could lost it all back in the coming days, bankroll would very helpful in this case believe me. be wise to choose any amount of money you have won , that's also the key.
Can you see some gambler who got sad when he won a particular bet? For sure you wont see such thing since as a normal person we would really be happy on winning money thats why most of us do play gambling because of the aim of earning money. Excitement and thrill would be also there but there are disadvantages on these things because this will mold us up on becoming a gambler later on.
lol i never mention about that by the way  Tongue . the point of my opinion are how people too deep get into a glorious winning , they didn't anticipate what could happened in the future , so they just spend a lot of money excessively. but i believe one day they would face a hard time , struggle even for getting $1 as you might could lost a lot of money more than you have earned before. it was a clear cycle in gambling , people would experience it sooner or later , so becareful.
1223  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What Is Your Worst Moment in Gambling? on: July 15, 2017, 04:45:20 AM
I think my worst moment was when I betted all my money all at once even my pocket money( I was thinking and feeling that it was my lucky day.)
After that, I lost all of it and I was shocked and devastated. I was speechless for a minute and wondering why I did it. I was very stupid during
that time.
Which is why we need to have a plan when we play in a casino, to avoid moments like those, we must decide beforehand what is the maximum amount of money we are willing to lose in that session and what will be our maximum bet, by doing that you will avoid a lot of problems.
the moment when you try to recover a little amount only at first but then you feel it's not enough and instead your money get recovered , you lost bigger amount than expected , that always happened everytime to everyone especially an addict one. to handle that kind situation you need more than just a plan , but a responsibility . it's okay you lost it all as long as you are not harm other people right? i mean like you used a family fund to gamble etc.
1224  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Play with your profit or not? on: July 15, 2017, 04:31:29 AM
if you are in gambling i think you must. but take out your capital for you not to lose. always control your greed and set a limit.
maybe in trading too if you consider yourself a trading hustler. there's no other way to make money unless you invest and take time for it to grow. but that is so lame. you must always play the game. just an advice! Smiley
You mean profits alone ? That means excluding initial bankroll but we should continue our gambling with previous round's profits ? But I understand playing with profits must be referring excluding nothing.

Because typically a gambler may get 10% profits from his bankroll and to double he must need at least ten rounds which may not allow sustaining longer duration. That is the reason gamblers simply continuing their gambling with both initial bankroll as well new profits. But most of them stop these until they lose all of their complete bankroll.
Not playing with profits will be possible only for the gamblers who are not becoming greedy while playing.
But I do not see any possibility for all gambler to control his emotions while gambling as they are into gambling only for the purpose of making more money hence they must be preferring to continue their gambling with the new profits and obviously they will lose and stop gambling.

Losses will be the stopping point for all the gamblers usually other wise they will keep gambling with profits.
I think it is how you control your emotion while playing to stop you from being an stubborn gamblers who keep on playing even if you loses too much. Mostly gamblers tends to triggered their aggressiveness when they are starting to lost their pace, but if you are a pro gambler you will know what to do when you are in this situation again.
a pro gambler would have a high level discipline , a good bankroll management skill and would keep stick on the rules. they have experienced a lot of things and learned from it. that's why they could always handle in almost every situation they faced. pretty different with those people who just gamble for weeks, months only , they would keep playing with their profit and when they lost it they would go allin with the whole amount they have .
1225  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Switching to Etherum on: July 14, 2017, 09:25:52 AM
It doesn't affect me at all. The way I am playing with btc when I started is still the same up to now no matter what the price is. I also don't have a plan to switch into altcoin gambling unless the low prio-fee in btc become 500ksats. Then I would think of switching to alt.

That's your decision mate no one could argue that, keep it up and what you believed is better then stick to it. But for me if I look into possibility of winning big by using alts for gambling bets,  maybe I should switch on it. When we talk about ethereum gambling, I see it good to use because as of this time the price in the crypto market still rises up,  so profit can be so positive to earned as well.
that's also another thing to consider this eth got a lots of chance to grow overtime so when you got lucky winning some eth from the gambling site
and the value rise up from the exchange you will earn more that's also some advantage.
even there's a lot of people think that ethereum has a lot of potential to become the biggest crypto currency threat bitcoin itself, i still don't believe it. no matter indeed eth could go up its popularity and the price. bitcoin would remain as a top currency to used to gamble , it's just the matter of time bitcoin could go back with the cheap fee and fast transaction.
1226  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin be used by ordinary citizens? on: July 13, 2017, 05:57:07 AM
i find that ordinary people who dont care or lack the tech savvy will never use bitcoin.. i have told my friends to buy back in 2011 they never listened or didnt bother to learn it.. their loss
Well, soon ordinary people will have to use bitcoin more and more because bitcoin will be accepted and adopted by the government. Technology and computer science will rule our world in the next 100 years. And then, AI will serve the human being
I agree with your opinion. But it is hard to convince them to trust Bitcoin. Nowadays, too many people still think Bitcoin is scam. Trying to persuade them is the hardest part. Bitcoin itself can be used by all people who can get access to the internet. It does not require high education, degree.

Bitcoin got attention at first because if I remember correctly its whitepaper was published 3 weeks after the greatest economic crisis since the great depression, if satoshi did not have such a great timing maybe no one would have gave any attention to bitcoin, what we need is another economic crisis that shakes the confidence of people in the world economy and begin to look for answers elsewhere.
basically bitcoin feel like an economics breakthrough and an advanced technology colleborated , it's a wonderful thing . but a common people hard to learn and fully understand about how it's work and how much the benefit using bitcoin until now. they are just care about make money through bitcoin , not how bitcoin could change the future for better.
1227  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Trading vs Gambling on: July 13, 2017, 05:34:08 AM
Gambling is just for the few people who are born to be gamblers. And not all of us will have a decent life with gambling. We need to understand on what will can be the possible result of gambling if we are not going to choose the right way of earning. Trading is there and easy to learn.
Born to be gamblers  Grin no-one is born to be gamblers apart from few off springs of casino owners and few rich gamblers.

Trading is not easy to learn, it require years of practice and you have to loss so much to learn from mistakes.
Well, before trading on live stock market/exchanges, you can practice trading on a demo/simulator site with real data. even with practice/testing there's still chances of losing, but it should prepare you to take minimal loss.

It is a good idea since Trading is not easy, learning on demos is a good thing but it would be more exciting if you are really implementing what you will learn on demos. Trading could be like gambling if you are not going to be serious about this, you could lose too much money or capital on Trading if you're going to be a naive person which is always insisting what you want even though it is not correct.

So before we enter some places in this Crypto World, we must consider first the facts and the risk that we must know to avoid this capital lost.
trading have similar risk to gamble when you have no knowledge doing it. trading would be more profitable when you have become an expert , i just think those people who still learning to trade would have same risk compared to those people who just get started to gamble , both have similar risk and worth it.
1228  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Alts fall, Bitcoin falls ... where is the money going? on: July 12, 2017, 07:09:12 PM
Final destination is China in a mansion called "Wu and the sons since 2009" who is more invested in bitcoin other than Chinese and especially miners?
We need to establish some sort of union to deport these pump groups out of crypto land, bitcoin even is not currently in use as it was intended by Satoshi, they're pump and dump on a daily basis and everyone just comes here and avoids talking the truth because they are scared of what I don't know that.
yeah there's no doubt that all the money goes to those people who have bought a lot of bitcoin so cheap in early  2009 or so and still holding it until they decide to sell it gradually a little by little. and recently they might have done a pump systematically , that's what i believe . an early adopter still out there holding tons bitcoin waiting for the right time to execute the market.
1229  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Superstition on: July 12, 2017, 06:51:17 PM
Seriously doing all this you will become superstitious. A superstitious person is who believes in weird stuff according to his religion and a religious person doesn't gamble so if yoi think do all this will help you any way forget it there are many better ways of earning money don't waste it on gambling

Not all Superstitious people are religious, there are times where this person who believes so much on Superstitions are just part of their culture or just a passed trait by their surroundings. Also, there are some "religous person" who are also gambling, there are even some time where I've seen a priest gambling but just for fun. A luck based guess can never be connected to a non scientific one.
I think everyone does as it is in human nature to be somewhat superstitious. As long as you don’t let your superstitions control you.
what are you trying to imply? there's people who doesn't believe with its existence and for those who believes i guess they are being controlled by
their believes and they tend to follow this things trying to hope for some luck while holding with their fate.

Every superstition in gambling is considered to be a gamblers baseline in his actions. Although it may sound stupid, I've done the same and know a couple more people who made the same implication of beliefs to gambling. Haha
it's indeed looks stupid and doesn't makes any sense at all for anyone to follow strange thing that has no relation to the outcome itself. but it's fun to do that right? as long as it didn't harm you then why not to keep doing that  Grin , i do the same too and honestly didn't believe on anything that could change the outcome , just do it for the sake of fun and nothing else.
1230  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin is the new era of currency? on: July 12, 2017, 06:38:17 PM
Yes, bitcoin is the new value of currency in the internet. We already can use it to buy foods and etc. But, i don't think bitcoin become a money in terms of hard money like dollar in a short time. Everybody still hope bitcoin can provide the best as the currency of a new era.
Yes we can use bitcoin to buy goods and services on internet also shops are accepting bitcoin.
Bitcoin can become the new era of currency , because every day many new people accepting bitcoin  as currency.
simply bitcoin change how people think about the money , bitcoin gives you a convenience to transact with anyone , anytime with better system compared to conventional money. bitcoin are the next generation of money , the next generation of banking system. we just need to be patient and the time would come sooner or later.
1231  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: July 12, 2017, 06:19:58 PM
Yes I agree there are times you'll get lost in gambling depending also on which game you play. Sports betting might help you out getting more wins than losing only if you know the type of sports you're really good at. Just control your bets only if the game you are really familiar with.

Are you sure about what you are typing? do you even know that the chances to win in sportsbetting is actually lower than most game in a casino? some people might not want to accept this but it is a fact. The house edge of sportsbetting is actually quite high that there will be alot more loser than winner
i think a lot of people still don't know about how sportsbetting has the higher odds compared to a games like dice where the house edge fixed to 1% or even lower. and sports betting edge itself average around 5% or so! mathematically you would expect to have bigger chance to win in the long run through dice rather than through sports betting , but there is a skill to analyze certain event based on data and statistics that what people believe could change the edge down to 1% or so.
1232  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How greedy you are? When will you stop and withdrawn? on: July 12, 2017, 06:09:49 PM
My target is only 1.25x , If i Invest 1 Btc in Gambling and when i achieved my target i will Withdraw money,
Thats it This is enough for me
All in and x1.25. No need to think much Wink if you are lucky, god will bless you and you will earn a great amount of bitcoin everyday. I think that the only way to stop gambling is not to gamble anything. Once you have invole in gambling, it is very hard to get to leave it
that's what always people dreaming about , to have a limit and stick on it for sure . mostly people don't care about the limit temporarily , i mean when you are on fire in the game you would ignore everything that you have planned and just follow your emotion which never have a good ending , basically the heavy pain are the only thing that could stop you to play.
1233  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is BTC for you? on: July 11, 2017, 03:52:35 PM
For me, Bitcoin means a new opportunity and a way to elevate my standard of living.  Since Bitcoin offers some freelancing job or in a better scenario a long term job for freelancer people,  it enables us to earn extra money aside from our day job that supports our financial capability.  Aside from that, it enables me to do an online transaction without the bank.
for some people yeah bitcoin really helpful to rise your financial level as bitcoin could go up so fast especially when you are an early adopter when bitcoin price still in very low value. and nowadays bitcoin gives a lot of way to make money through trading, mining and investing on ICO for example.
1234  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: July 11, 2017, 03:35:52 PM
With experience, it is not really a definite guarantee that a gambler will always win. This is especially true to gambling games that are based on pure luck. However, if it is requiring skills like poker, then experience and skills play a vital role for you to win more than losing games.

Poker skills is not really necessary when you cant get a good cards. Whats the point of all those bluffing skill when you cant get a good hands? there is almost no point. In the end you are just going to hope that you could get a good card so that you can outplay everyone even without using necessary skill for that
lol you must talking with an experts about this, i can't deny or agree with you as i haven't a good argument enough. but you shouldn't doubt on how a lot of professional poker player make a living for years , and it's impossible if you do it with being lucky alone. but skills are play a big role here. is it makes sense for you now? experience and skills are matter in certain situation and certain games.

Indeed. It's not by chance that when we watch professional poker tourneys, we most likely would find the same faces playing in the table. Poker is one gambling type where a skilled and experienced player can actually make a living for himself and his family.
yeah that's why i didn't deny about it , as i can see it by myself that a lot of people around here have been success start their career on gambling through poker . i don't know really if there is the longest career ever in the poker game world but i do believe it's the most promising game among any other games. and it's indeed required experience and skills.
1235  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you feel shameful for being a gambler? on: July 11, 2017, 03:21:03 PM
Shame is only realised when one see that he has been a fool for losing so much money on gambling whiles there more important things to do.There is no shame when you are winning all the time.
Winning all the time is not possible on gambling field which we can really say that we can really see someone do make loses specially if they do have a bad day and on playing gambling chances of losing is more than winning which winning on constant is impossible. Shame would really be feel out when you already realized that you dont have anymore money in your pocket to use on other important things.

Yes you can only win some times but loose most of the times that's why you should try to be disciplined with gambling and not fall into sports he trap of addiction. The shame actually comes after a player becomes addicted and irresponsible to his family and close  associates
not even with discipline as the concept of gambling itself about how the casino owner would always in advantage no matter what . and yeah mostly people would feel so shameful when their gambling addiction destroy the whole family financial situation and it could end up with a bad relationship with your family too. that's the worst scenario you can get when you being an addict.
1236  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: July 11, 2017, 01:29:57 PM
for me it is better to invest, regardless if you are rich or not you should know how to handle your money and how you will spend it
i was able to earn some money by investing into something, time is really one of the big factor on this. so if you are trying to gamble your money try investing first to know the difference

If you're not really interested in gambling then it's good for you because if you're really want to invest your money there are other ways to do it just don't put your money in gambling because it's not a good option for you to profit. Better invest it in trading where you can have a higher chance to make profit all you need is a good knowledge in trading.
gambling are addictive so whenever you decide want to try to gamble then you have to know about the consequences. when in an investment/trading there is a little lower risk only compared to gambling so i guess it could be a better choice rather than to gamble of course. actually there is a lot of reasons why investing or trading are far better but what i have mentioned above are the most popular reason why.
1237  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: In Gambling, Money is not everything on: July 11, 2017, 01:16:30 PM
I think it may still be a source of income but i think its right that its all about the money first big or small amount of money is needed to get extra income from it,its just youre playstyle and where you bet is needed in playing
Well on my view, money is not really something to gamblers sometimes because they just want to release stress from whatever circumstances they are facing everyday. It's either from work, family or even friends. On the other hand,  those other people who gamble make themselves get extras from the money they use for gambling because they are afraid of losing chances of winning. The more they bet the more they think they can win. So I guess is not the money alone that triggers the mind of a gambler to play.
but still when you want to having fun but play a game without stake money it wouldn't give you the real pleasure like what you expected. so gambling without stake money / without money involved there it has nothing could thrill you right? the feeling when your heart beating waiting for the outcome and hoping for your money get doubled that time gambling and money are almost everything.
1238  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: July 11, 2017, 11:56:49 AM
It is so true that first the users start to gamble for fun but when they start to lose it then they run after it to recover it and on this process they lose all investment. Then start the addiction and when one point comes that they become totally poor that time they realize it what mistake they have done.

I agree that this is the normal scenario. Then again every player is not like that. Many people do realize their losses in due course before going broke and then they stop themselves. Then they even try to reconcile and try to earn their losses not by gambling but by other legal methods to earn money. Not everyone get addicted but many of them do get addicted and cant stop themselves.

They are chasing their previous losses which they hope they can win back again in some other time - that is why they keep on coming back. And once they play regularly, they are forming a habits and those habits become an addiction which has great impact to your family relationship if you will lose a lot overtime
things that always make people looks like an addict are because of they keep repeating the same mistake in gambling , they don't want to face a lost but want always to have a winning which it's impossible even for a wizard. pretty selfish isn't it? no wonder they would get addicted for sure in the end.
1239  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are you scared to hold until August 1? on: July 11, 2017, 11:36:26 AM
Actualy we don't know what will exactly happen at August 1, these are all speculations and rumors. The whole story is just exaggerated and even.now some users begun to panic. This is probably the goal to make some users sell their coins.I don't fall for that.
yeah it's just make people going to do panic selling , just like what happened recently the bitcoin price in down trends due this kind rumours getting heated , some people believe it could be a split chain after the segwit 2.0 comes and guess what would happened? people lost interest as it feels someone play with it. i personally think that the bitcoin price would get dropped a little to skyrocketing back later.
1240  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why is bitcoin the most popular cryptocurrency? on: July 10, 2017, 10:50:32 PM
it's the most trusted , we saw many coins come and go so it's hard to trust a cryptocurrency
but since bitcoin has always been the first in market that's why it's so popular imo and that's why most fiat sites that accept crypto accept mainly bitcoin


other coins technology is now better , but you can't trust all the coins
Yeah i guess too i think bitcoin was a trusted coin the most the msrket i guess it is the most trusted in all of them because it is thea first of all of them and people already trusted the bitcoin for there investmentis other cryptocurrency cannot be trusted for a price increase.
that was the thing makes bitcoin irreplaceable, trustworthy. it's been grow so fast and couldn't easily get replaced by other coins with its community. the concept also far better than any other altcoin , bitcoin stand no matter issue faced in the last 8 years it's even getting bigger and better.
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