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1241  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io - Daily Price Boosts! 💰 Live Streaming! 🎾 on: March 16, 2018, 10:50:46 AM
Interesting to note that someone who is able to code the coingaming software looks for coders for a provably fair leaderboard!

Does this mean the coingaming coders do not know how to code something provably fair? Cheesy

The Sportsbet.io players, we are going to try something no one has ever tried before.

Due to players not thinking our new lottery is provably fair, we are looking for help from this community. We want lotteries and we want it to be crystal clear and externally verifiable that it's provably fair.

Are their any aspiring coders on here who would like to build it for us?

We will pay for the complete dev costs. If the community can come together and decide what it would take for the lottery to be proven fair and get it spec'd out and coded up the way you want to see it.

If you are NOT a coder or no coders step up, PLEASE spec out exactly what needs to be done and we will then get it programmed ourselves. Let's start the discussions!

if you read it twice you would see that they are talking about the lottery not the leaderboard , personally I know 3 out of the 30 in the leaderboard and the results are accurate
and coding a provably fair lottery isn't that easy by the way , we saw how freebitcoin and crypto games were managing their lotteries before
There is no difference between a fake lottery and fake leaderboard! You would need to know all qualifiers to check if it is accurate.

Has there ever been a legit leaderboard then?

No one ever knows all participants of any event.

You're embarassing yourself.
1242  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: "All in Challenge" start with $10 and make $1000 on sports bet on: March 16, 2018, 10:47:36 AM
I don't think people are going to start inviting their friends if they don't have proof you've made profit previously and consistantly.
You should share some tips in this thread prior to asking us to do that Tongue
1243  Economy / Gambling / Re: BETCOIN.AG-The #1 ɃTC ETH BCH LTC DASH XRP Casino Sportsbook Dice-5 Years Strong on: March 15, 2018, 11:44:56 PM
How do we believe you're going to pay out 50BTC from March Maddness when BBJ was announced and is constantly disregarded and probably avoided?

Odds of a perfect bracket are 1 in 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (1 in 9.2 quintillion) so it probably won't be an issue.

But why would I play if I can't win  Cheesy
Why would there be an option of a win that can't be paid out?

@Betcoin.Ag

You never signed a messege for the BBJ and now there's a chance to "win" 50BTC
If you happen to be unlucky and it actually happens, how the hell are you going to pay it out?

Even worse, a couple days ago the "new" Betcoin defended the way the "old" Betcoin handled the whole Glam Life BTC1,000 progressive jackpot that they paid only BTC50 of...and then treated the guy like shit after forcing him to sign a contract promising to post comments in public that Betcoin wrote as if they were his own words.  

PS -
Hey Betcoin, This is not trolling, it's truth.

Why is anyone actually gambling here is beyond me.

Betcoin, get your shit straight.

If you scammed before, at least don't do it again.
Even you don't intend to with small amounts, how can you have a jackpot with a reward higher than the funds you own  Huh Huh
Someone can win, he will lose since he won't get paid and you'll lose too since you're not going to pay him and people are going to stray even further from your website.

There's 0 winners in this story.
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Not sure if this is allowed here, but generally you're promoting your site through fortunejack. And your site, of course as expected, has an affiliate link when people click the buttons to get to FJ. Al though, thanks for promoting fortune jack on the internet and promoting the promotions of FJ. It's always nice to see that people are excited about the awesome promos of FJ.

It's sort of relevant so I guess it's okay xD
1245  Economy / Gambling / Re: Nitrogen has locked my account for no reason on: March 15, 2018, 11:19:11 PM
Did you login from a new IP/PC?
Perhaps you triggered some system so it froze the account so a hacker can't abuse it
Update us with the e-mail response.
1246  Economy / Gambling / Re: BETCOIN.AG-The #1 ɃTC ETH BCH LTC DASH XRP Casino Sportsbook Dice-5 Years Strong on: March 15, 2018, 11:04:36 PM
How do we believe you're going to pay out 50BTC from March Maddness when BBJ was announced and is constantly disregarded and probably avoided?

Odds of a perfect bracket are 1 in 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (1 in 9.2 quintillion) so it probably won't be an issue.

But why would I play if I can't win  Cheesy
Why would there be an option of a win that can't be paid out?

@Betcoin.Ag

You never signed a messege for the BBJ and now there's a chance to "win" 50BTC
If you happen to be unlucky and it actually happens, how the hell are you going to pay it out?
1247  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Civil War in South Africa and Suidlanders on: March 15, 2018, 10:57:16 PM
Well just looking at the current state of things in Cape Town, it's easy to see that shit is about to hit the fan. It might get even worse than Haiti where they murdered all their whites and mismanaged what was once the richest country in the western hemisphere.

I know the issue is complex but it won't be solved by simply murdering all the "oppressors". You try to eliminate this so called "elite" group and then what, who's left to manage and clean up the mess?

It's Marxism.

It's going to end as it ended each time so far, with a failure.
There will be murder and theft, and once there's no one else left to steal from, the thieves are going to starve since they're incapable of production.

Totally. In Haiti's case, the survivors fled to Dominican Republic and though it didn't become rich, they did contribute there. Meanwhile on the other half of the island Haitians took over and became worse masters. They simply replaced the French in the hierarchy, with the bonus of being less competent.

It's really sad that the media doesn't cover farmland murders, rapes and the calling of genocide, legalizing theft and shouting 'Kill the Boer' at mass gatherings.

Imagine the roles were reversed, and the whites were on the 'Kill the Niggers' side.

How many times a day would we read about it?
1248  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: CryptoKingdom Uncensored on: March 15, 2018, 10:53:48 PM
Guys, in regards to the depo items, this same discussion happened in 2017 and it got us nowhere. The depo stuff is not going to happen. 

And the "fork" term is being used here since that can sort of help explain the changes in one word, but to be clear, CK never had a token, blockchain, or anything of the sort. It's just a poorly designed website with a database.

Risto and PJ are not coming back. And in the case of PJ, why would you even want him back? He was paid exceptionally well by Risto (and the community) for many years and it looks like the bulk of his  development time happened all around 2015, when the "Ultima" version of the site was released.

Even the "Ultima" title is a misnomer as it was really an "ultimate fail" in terms of approaching even a fraction of the depth and enjoyment that people saw in the old Google Docs game. We kept being promised this or that feature by Risto, and we thought Risto's seemingly infinite pockets could make it happen, but it didn't happen and it won't happen.

We are hoping to drive change in a way that benefits all stakeholders in the project in an intelligent way. Naturally, there are a lot of factors to balance. The community itself was given a year to address these issues (and Risto and PJ were given even longer). Let's give this new way a try.

You're making a strawman over and over again.

It's been stated that nothing was going on for a year or so a few times already.

How does that have anything to do with the debt Risto and his charachters hold?
1249  Economy / Gambling / Re: HYBRID BETTING - A very different betting platform on: March 15, 2018, 10:32:52 PM
I like everything with some competition but you claimed your idea was unique, there are already betting exchanges, what differenties you from them?
1250  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io - Daily Price Boosts! 💰 Live Streaming! 🎾 on: March 15, 2018, 10:21:28 PM
@game-protect

You know people would take you more seriously if you made legit critics..
Just stop.
1251  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which coin do you think is best for gambling? on: March 15, 2018, 10:20:05 PM
That's not entirely true.

There's a couple of coins you can buy with USD on Coinbase and I'm sure there are other websites that offer to use other methods to purchase some coins.

I agree you need BTC to purchase 99% of altcoins.
1252  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: "All in Challenge" start with $10 and make $1000 on sports bet on: March 15, 2018, 09:53:29 PM
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Split the budget in four equal parts.

Budget #1   $ 10

Budget #2   $ 10

Budget #3   $ 10

Budget #4   $ 10

 

We’ll start with the first budget (Budget #1 $ 10), and we’ll bet the previous profit, all in.

So we bet $ 10, and the remaining $ 30 we will keep in our bank in case we make a mistake.

If we lose any bet, we start with another budget (Budget #2 $ 10).

Recommended to be played online.
We will try to make it as easy as possible for you.
We’ll start with $ 10 and try to reach $ 1000 in a month or less.
You can also bet with crypto.

*quoted from the website

I think if you have 4 different budgets, it's not really all in Cheesy
1253  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Super Challenge - Road to 1 BTC with 1 mbtc (10 Attempts) by SupremeTime! on: March 15, 2018, 09:45:40 PM
Hey strangers (sorry no friends yet) i am SupremeTime and i will make an attempt to reach 1 BTC from 1 mbtc.
Rules:
 a- Follow me and if interested to share your BTC message me for my BTC Address.
 b- Just bet the way i do and ask.

1st Pick: [Attempt - 1]
WTA : Indian Wells
Game: Kerber A.   -   Kasatkina D.
Pick: Angelique Kerber 1st Set Game Handicap -1.5 @ 1.85
Wager : 1 mbtc or 0.001 BTC.
Good Luck!



Lol
It ended some half an hour ago
The first set was 0-6  Cheesy
Guess you start off with a loss of 7.5 games xD

1254  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice.com | Creators of Dicing 🎲 | 20 Billion Bets | 112+ BTC Jackpot! on: March 15, 2018, 09:22:52 PM
I do respect those who have made Seuntjies DiceBot because I can see that many gamblers enjoy using it, but I personally don't use it myself. Gambling for me is an entertainment, not a hard work to make money with and that's why I don't need a bot to do it for me. I prefer manual betting when you can clearly see the outcome of every single bet, while reading the amazing PD chat, chatting with friends, participating in trivias, challenges and so on. )

Same here. But I prefer manual betting because I distrust the bots (all bots), I don't want to see I lost because the bot got crazy Tongue

You can be watching the bot rolling though to correct him Tongue
1255  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [TWITTER GIVEAWAY] 3 Items [Bitcoin Lamp, FJ picture, Bitcoin knife] on: March 15, 2018, 09:02:18 PM
The last draw will be made tommorow!

GMT+1 21:00
Same link Smiley
1256  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: CryptoKingdom Uncensored on: March 15, 2018, 09:00:03 PM
I think when people sent b1 to NEW to exit the Game there is only one debt then, so I agree that assets inside CK::legacy will be duplicated inside CK::fork, but I disagree with the debt, once it's outside CK it's one debt, and if it's paid anywhere it's paid, and can't exist again. Remember, the b1 debt is recorded in a spreadsheet, not in CK DB anymore.

afaik this was one of the main disagreements ever since HMC and two other mods took over the Game, did anyone have the authority to confiscate Risto's assets for any purpose against his wishes, and I think consensus was 'NO', that's why his accounts have been frozen. That means any change from current situation requires a fork, either to pay debts, or to use for dev funds. Either way, if we use Risto's accounts against his will I think everyone saw that as a 'fork' and not the original CK. I know that's the way I saw it, you can't confiscate Risto's accounts and still call it CK::legacy, it'll be a fork no matter what, unless we continue with the account freeze, and hope Risto negotiates which doesn't look possible now.


The consensus was because most of us believed Risto will come around and that was just destructive behavior because of his wife leaving him and other things going on with his life.

However, today, the story is different since it's pretty obvious Risto isn't coming back.

Besides, saying 'we don't have the authority to distribute Ristos funds' and then seize his funds, but not for the debtors? Instead, nationalizing them.

I don't think that's a way to go even though it is a fork.
If it were a real legit work, then the debts an ingame account has and the means to pay them should be carried over too.

Imagine there was a BTC fork that used every exchanges address to take for themselves for marketing and not carry over the BTC fork coins so users of the exchanges can use them.
1257  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: CryptoKingdom Uncensored on: March 15, 2018, 11:52:50 AM
What would happen if the forked CK paid b1 & e1 debts, and later Risto regained his sanity and started working on original CK version with PJ? Could he write off the b1 & e1 debts in CK original, because they were paid in CK fork? I don't think we've seen the last of Risto, so this is possible .... arrgh lol

I agree, leave the depo stuff behind us, and get CK restarted and M listed on an exchange asap!


Which game would repay those debts? Crypto Kingdom certainly would not.
It's Zechariach and other Rpietilas charachters ingame.


If there are two versions of CK ( CK::legacy & CK::fork ), and the b1 debts are paid using Risto's assets in CK::fork, then what would happen if Risto came back and restarted CK::legacy, would you expect Risto to pay the b1 debts again, either as bitcoin or as some repayment inside CK::legacy?


Ofcourse.
If you have 1BTC in Bitcoin Legacy, you'll have 1BTC in Bitcoin fork.
If you have 1BTC in CK Legacy, you should have 1BTC in CK fork.

Besides, his assets are nowhere near the value of the actual debt.
It's almost worthless, it won't cover over 10% of the actual money owed.
1258  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: CryptoKingdom Uncensored on: March 15, 2018, 11:16:36 AM

We are not dealing with the B1 and E1 depos. If someone has issues with Risto, get in touch with him. There is Malla Manor / Bitcoin castle and tens of millions (at current values if he kept what he had) in that Poloniex account he flashed to us in 2017.

Let us try to actually do something with the game and leave this depo stuff behind us.

The main motivation for reviving CK is -- honestly -- it is insane that something like this with such a history/lineage and so much money moving around it is dead now.



What would happen if the forked CK paid b1 & e1 debts, and later Risto regained his sanity and started working on original CK version with PJ? Could he write off the b1 & e1 debts in CK original, because they were paid in CK fork? I don't think we've seen the last of Risto, so this is possible .... arrgh lol

I agree, leave the depo stuff behind us, and get CK restarted and M listed on an exchange asap!


Which game would repay those debts? Crypto Kingdom certainly would not.
It's Zechariach and other Rpietilas charachters ingame.
1259  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: CryptoKingdom Uncensored on: March 14, 2018, 11:09:50 PM
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and there are far more that lost big in XMR and/or opportunity costs terms who are not on that list

But that was made with their own choices not for them being scammed
All of us invested XMR/BTC, was there an option to deposit something else to play the game?
I deposited around 2000 XMR at the time

I spent 200 XMR to purchase CKG just before the game was unpaused

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There is a balance for this. As Gaben and I outlined above, many players beyond Risto accounts will probably be inactive (at say 10%-20% of total M supply cap). That is reasonable. But adding Risto's 50% of the game makes the distribution look terrible.

I know you are on the E1 and B1 depo sheets, but you and everyone else will be far better served by the game just progressing/developing than worrying about those amounts (which were made when Risto was in a poor mental state, so would a reasonable person looking on this scenario in hindsight even allow full recovery of those amounts anyway?).

Also, this very topic (Risto depos) made it where pretty much nothing happened during all of 2017 after Risto left. The current team now has the domain, source code, and complete database of the game. Some lines have to be drawn in the sand to move forward, and the removal of all this depo stuff is one of them.

But Risto wouldn't keep 50% if it was distributed to 30 people on the sheets
He wouldn't keep any of it actually xD
People he scammed would
It doesn't matter his mental state was poor, people made losses with this, there are people who deposited new crypto to the game just to buy B1, and they were scammed
Does it matter what his state was?
He made contracts with individuals which weren't respected.

If Ristos items are going to be taken away without refunding the creditors, the game should at least be forked from a date prior to the depo scam.

Remember the XMR I used to buy CKG? I sold all my CKG to buy B1.
I have no XMR, no CKG and no BTC.
Fork prior to the depo scam or refund the debt holders from Zechariach.
At least use other chars for the good of the game, but use at least Zechariach to repay his debts.
I believe that would be a fair option.
1260  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Civil War in South Africa and Suidlanders on: March 14, 2018, 10:49:15 PM
Well just looking at the current state of things in Cape Town, it's easy to see that shit is about to hit the fan. It might get even worse than Haiti where they murdered all their whites and mismanaged what was once the richest country in the western hemisphere.

I know the issue is complex but it won't be solved by simply murdering all the "oppressors". You try to eliminate this so called "elite" group and then what, who's left to manage and clean up the mess?

It's Marxism.

It's going to end as it ended each time so far, with a failure.
There will be murder and theft, and once there's no one else left to steal from, the thieves are going to starve since they're incapable of production.
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