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1261  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Crypti | XCR | Launch August | 100% POS | New Source | Trading has begun! on: August 21, 2014, 02:30:12 AM

Can u deliver it or in within 48 hours again?.. (honest question no fud now..)  Smiley

Seriously do you have mental problems? What the hell is wrong with you? You gotta catch a bus or something? People like this guy make long term investing suicidal. Everybody is in it for the quick buck in crypto. Nobody sees the long term picture anymore. I'm gonna kill myself eventually if I keep reading these posts. I'll do something less annoying like watch The Real Housewives of XXXX.

Right? I honestly don't get it.

My only thought is that some people might gamble on cryptos with their rent or food money or something, and need to cash out quickly? Or look at cryptos in the same way as sitting at a vegas poker table? It's sort of crazy.

It's also one reason I was against the presale stuff to begin with. It just feeds this mentality further. And as we see with the Nxt/Bter situation, perhaps it's not the best idea, as unexpected events could always occur before the actual release date.
1262  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What hapenned with DCM? on: August 20, 2014, 05:26:49 PM
Hi,
I just realized this scam.  Embarrassed got a wallet with 22K in it (about 1 btc at the time of buying)  Cry

AFAIK the only exchanger for this coin was BitTrex.com , but I don't have seen any email reporting on this scam.

That behavior from BitTrex.com is very unpleasant  Angry
At least they could have sent an email to customers who traded this coin, and acknowledge the fact this was obviously a Scam coin.

I remember they were holding the biggest wallet of this coin, so they were either victim or guilty about the scam...  Huh

anyway, just my 22k  Lips sealed

Bittrex consistently removes coins with low volume. They probably should email customers who may have coins about to be delisted, but don't believe they do, do they? Not sure.

It wasn't delisted because it was a scam exactly... it was delisted because nobody was trading the thing after the devs packed up and left.
1263  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] QIBUCK COIN - X13 - POS/POBH - 1st Proof of Baghold and asset backed. on: August 20, 2014, 04:58:37 PM
Who is eating QBK?

48% rose.

https://poloniex.com/exchange/btc_qbk

Less coins on the exchange makes rises a lot easier, as there really wasn't a ton of resistance up to 20K. Actually it's pretty smooth all the way up to 30K, except for that annoying giant order that really needs to be broken up.

Maybe some bought due to that XC announcement, or someone is accumulating to get to 10K for some of those founder's benefits?  I just know I wish I put in some low buy orders when people were dumping.

I'm curious if the devs can announce any more info on the freebie stuff they have planned?
Exactly what giveaways are expected for founder's group people, and what is for everyone else?

It may not be a bad idea to revive the pool grouping idea just for the giveaway stuff. You don't want to give everyone a freebie, really, although it sounds nice -- it'd be a logistical nightmare and really dilute whatever it is you give away. Maybe set up groups, like 1K min, 1% club, and Founder's club at 10K? Something like that could work, although not sure how much in the way of freebies that bounty/giveaway pool can handle.
1264  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Crypti | XCR | Launch August | 100% POS | New Source | Trading has begun! on: August 20, 2014, 06:02:17 AM
When are you planning to launch it?

As per yesterday update, we still looking for Bter lead dev to contact us regarding his arrival to destination, mainnet testing finalization and readiness to open withdrawals / deposits, so we could do a final launch announcement.

man what the fuck can you guys fucking give us an ETA that actually fucking works for one fucking fuck how much are u guiys gonna stall this fucking shit.

GET UR SHIT TOGETHER. NOW!!!!! 10 days late and U STILL KNOW SHIT?!?!?!

Yeah, I agree. The devs should have been psychic and saw the Nxt breach ahead of time. I'm not sure what's wrong with them.

And Bter should drop everything -- even though one might say the loss of all that btc/nxt could have a slight priority, as it deals with their own exchange's survival -- so they can release crypti immediately. Their priorities are obviously screwed up.

Thank you for your words of wisdom, so eloquently stated.
1265  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] QIBUCK COIN - X13 - POS/POBH - 1st Proof of Baghold and asset backed. on: August 20, 2014, 05:37:34 AM

We are not allowed to discuss anything else until the XC PR Team allow is so..Even after making an announcement with the permission of their DEVS which I posted full evidence from the skype transcript, we were fudded and trolled and abused again by XC hardcore supporters both on the trollbox and on their thread. I am awaiting for the XC DEVS to wake up and put a stop to this childish malicious behavior before we can move on. My ONLY MISTAKE was not to go to the XC DEVS from day one of the XC SUPPORTER FUD STORM AGAINST OUR COIN that tried their best to maliciously crash the price and support for QIBUCK as FUDDING ANY OTHER COIN IS AGAINST XC TOS. THE WALLET ENHANCEMENT IS THE INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY OF QIBUCK and we cannot disclose it until it is completed. We wanted to give XC DEVS the privilege of this JV partnership and hope to move forward once the whole FUD MESS is cleared up by the XC DEVS AND PR TEAM. Please be patient while we remove this hindrance to our affairs. Smiley. Once XC PR DEVS AND TEAM allow us to make a join statement regarding the implementation of this project we will let you all know accordingly. It is just a shame that these rogue elements in XC are behaving as badly as their DARK COUNTERPARTS did to them when they first launched their coin. To be quite frank we will NOT TOLERATE this nonsense on our thread. If anyone is caught fudding on our thread we will report immediately to the moderators. This thread is the home of QIBUCK COIN, INVESTORS AND TEAM. Just like one would not allow anyone to go into their home and abuse any member of their family, we will NOT SUCCUMB to bullying tactics by anyone.

Okay, looking forward to news as to how it works, whenever you are allowed to speak of it.

As for fud and trolls and so on, I just assume they are part of the game at this point. Asking a troll to stop trolling is a losing battle. This forum isn't really moderated, so reporting them may not exactly do any good. People spread fud, people spread hype... some of that is due to price manipulation, some of it is coin tribalism, some of it is just flat out regular trolling. Remain professional and just figure most intelligent people can tell the difference between true criticism and simply nutty rants.

I'm speaking of here. The trollbox, who knows... I just figure most of what people say there are lies anyway, and typically mute the thing.
1266  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] QIBUCK COIN - X13 - POS/POBH - 1st Proof of Baghold and asset backed. on: August 20, 2014, 05:11:03 AM
FIRST JV VENTURE: We are pleased to an announce our first JV COLLABORATION ON A NEW REVENUE GENERATING WALLET ENHANCEMENT BETWEEN XC COIN AND QIBUCK COIN.

Can you talk more about how that will work exactly? I checked the XC thread, but see the collaboration wasn't exactly greeted with open arms. I've come to the conclusion that a lot of people in crypto either are 14 years old, far too much into some form of coin tribalism, or completely insane -- perhaps all of the above.

Anyway, payment via nodes sounds interesting and profitable. But how will that work exactly? Will the coins share nodes and where is the payment originating from exactly? Sort of similar to Drk's masternode setup, minus having a person need to set up their node manually?
1267  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Storj - Decentralized Storage on: August 19, 2014, 06:42:07 PM
I have been hearing a lot about Storj and I am really interested in investing in it. Would someone be so kind as to point out any differences in what Storj is trying to do compared to Maidsafe? I've been told Storj is just focusing on storage while Maidsafe is storage plus a private internet of sorts...

Decentralized storage vs decentralized internet is basically how I view it... I think each project could be considered more complimentary than competitive.

Storj may compare more to that recent bittrex ico coin, xcloud. Except xcloud isn't decentralized, uses crypto primarily just for funding, and is closer to dropbox than storj -- storj being what I expect most folks expect xcloud is, but isn't really.
1268  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Crypti | XCR | Launch August | 100% POS | New Source | Trading has begun! on: August 19, 2014, 05:03:56 AM
33 BTC sell order at 2793  Huh
How the hell we do x5 with this?

Multiple exchanges, and someone really needs to learn how to break up their sell orders.
1269  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Crypti | XCR | Launch August | 100% POS | New Source | Trading has begun! on: August 19, 2014, 12:36:52 AM
A bit of a delay for wallets + other exchanges may not be the worst thing in the world. I think storj is ending their ipo tonight, and I expect it to be on exchanges shortly thereafter. It could be better to wait a bit and get the limelight rather than share it with another ipo coin.
1270  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] QIBUCK COIN - X13 - POS/POBH - 1st Proof of Baghold and asset backed. on: August 18, 2014, 11:15:52 PM


Yes and that is your perspective of this I am not attacking your investment so you don't need to defend it -  you are free to believe as I am am free to outlay my concerns.   Seems like there is a lot you didnt actually know.  

However with that said it goes back to what some members of this team have been exposed too in the past that has lead to the creation of THIS coin.  The troll boxes I am talking about it poloneix I said this in my first reply (and shouldn't need to keep reminding you)  

A lot of people were telling her, that this idea was a bad idea and it was clearly nothing more than a money grab and this was after the community was angry with poloniex hosting pure 100% ipo scam coins - That is where a lot of the criticism is coming from - this isn't FUD at all. Maybe you haven't seen how the last pure IPO scam coins went on for on poloniex.  

My last couple of posts indicate my general feeling on this PR team and coin.  

So I will move on from this as there is nothing here long term in my opinion.  I hope qibucks and bitcoinmafia can finally earn enough money to see their kids/buy whatever they want so we dont have to constantly read about woe is my life in troll boxes all the time now.  The fact one member kept wanting to be a miniwhale should tell you all you need about the direction of ONE member.

Money first - investments/tech/whatever sadly comes second in this instance.  I don't think they will even make their coin earn 20 sats in the future.  Better coins with more going for it struggle to make that.

I am aware of the IPO coins on Poloniex, XBC, LCL and Mil. And plenty of the ICO coins on Bittrex. Most ended up with the devs leaving, taking all the IPO funds with them. But as I stated, Poloniex changed their ICD rules after the Mil fiasco. The devs won't be just given all the ICO funds.

And yes, I know it's the Polo trollbox  you meant, and that is what I was referring to as well. My point was, you can't claim the coin is simply a product of trollbox hype, when the trollbox is also negative towards the coin.

And a dev wishing to make money from their coin is hardly unusual. I have a feeling you may find it a bit difficult finding any dev team doing crypto for purely altruistic reasons or with the idea they will walk away without any financial reward at all.

If you don't like the people working on the coin, or the idea of an asset based crypto, that's of course fine. I wouldn't tell anyone to buy or sell this, or any coin. I just find it odd you need to post these concerns if you have no actual interest in the coin itself.
1271  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] QIBUCK COIN - X13 - POS/POBH - 1st Proof of Baghold and asset backed. on: August 18, 2014, 10:47:29 PM
VOTING ENDS SUNDAY 24TH AUGUST..   Smiley
Im not sure why but i cannot vote and I know a few other people said they cant either , not sure if there is a setting or something that needs to be changed so people can ??

Maybe it's a newbie thing? Not sure, as I don't recall if I voted or not when I had newbie status.
1272  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] QIBUCK COIN - X13 - POS/POBH - 1st Proof of Baghold and asset backed. on: August 18, 2014, 10:45:31 PM


As I said pure 100% POS coins offer zero value to me when they provide nothing from the start.  I don't think this coin was worth the 20 sats it was listed when they had nothing to go with other than a wallet and 100% mined coins and a smile and promise.  Sorry but if you expect me to buy into a coin I expect a lot of work already done - not a vote for whats next.  That's poor marketing - which it seems this team only has - marketing and a poor job of it.

Sorry If I am all about fair distribution. But this coin offers nothing of that sort and I am sorry the poloneix trollbox is responsible for crap like this.  LCL, XBC, Millionaire coin, this crap are all born inside the trollbox where by the plebs attack it like flies on shit.  Dump it after 10% and we never hear form them again.   I have seen this time and time again on one of my fav exchanges - but not anymore.

whatever




You do know this is an asset based coin, correct? There is no way to list the coin as an ICO -- with assets already purchased -- before the ICO is run and funding obtained. In many ways that should be the point of all ICO coins, not just this one -- the funding is used for development of new features, or in this case, new features + assets. One difference here is that Poloniex holds the funds until they are used for what they say they will, with a full ledger. There won't be any giant lump sum payout to the devs like on other ICO coins, as per Poloniex ICD rules.

As for being a coin of the trollbox, I'm not sure what trollbox you have been watching, but the trolls came out negatively against qibucks, spreading a lot of fud early on. What the trollbox gives, it takes away... it's not all pro any coin, so I wouldn't say this coin has been hyped up by the trollbox. More like the opposite.

1273  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 18, 2014, 08:00:39 PM
Trustless anon already exists in the cryptonote coins via ring signatures. And it hasn't exactly done them a ton of good so far. Yes, they have their own issues (potential bloat), but this race to trustless anonymity already has been won, sort of... just that people don't really seem to care.

This isn't meant as fud, nor do I even own any cryptonote coins (I owned some Cloak and still own some Drk). I'm just wondering why the hype over something that probably isn't as big a deal as people make it out to be.



People don't care?  Then why are the "potential" anon coins are the last couple of months in the top 5 most traded @mintpal?

You misunderstood what I meant, or perhaps I wasn't being clear.

That the race has been won, yet people are still trying to win it. Another form of anonymity using different tech is fine and good, I'm just not sure why there is hype for something that pretty much exists already.
1274  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] QIBUCK COIN - X13 - POS/POBH - 1st Proof of Baghold and asset backed. on: August 18, 2014, 07:52:55 PM

Yeah your right one month a small bag at least just to cover the electricity costs they used from their own pocket to mine for the pow..I know one or two mods were helping to mine it in their own homes from their own expense. At least a small bag as token of gratitude would suffice and to be honest if it's kicked up a stir I don't mind even having to cover that from my own pocket rather than have all the fuss of being accused of this that and the other. It always seems apparent to me that working so hard to create something good and different always receives less praise than it does criticism.

Your intentions were right, just that sometimes it's best to think if any decision, any comment by a dev, anything at all related to the coin, could be used as potential fud.  Even if your intentions are honorable -- if there is a chance they aren't -- trolls will seize upon that. Unfortunately that is the state of crypto today.
1275  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 18, 2014, 07:45:41 PM
Trustless anon already exists in the cryptonote coins via ring signatures. And it hasn't exactly done them a ton of good so far. Yes, they have their own issues (potential bloat), but this race to trustless anonymity already has been won, sort of... just that people don't really seem to care.

This isn't meant as fud, nor do I even own any cryptonote coins (I owned some Cloak and still own some Drk). I'm just wondering why the hype over something that probably isn't as big a deal as people make it out to be.

1276  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] QIBUCK COIN - X13 - POS/POBH - 1st Proof of Baghold and asset backed. on: August 18, 2014, 07:38:12 PM


O,K that's a decent point taken..Just didn't like the idea that was mentioned of us Buying off the Exchange..If that was the case we wouldn't have had the nasty fud scenario on the trollbox lol.

I am so surprised if everyone is vehemently against us giving any extra freebies to the Exchange why they are voting for option 1 ..that's mind blogging lol. Grin Grin

Well, my argument was actually you weren't trying to buy off the exchange, as it'd be insanely silly to announce you were doing so in the thread here ... sort of counterproductive.

The main reasons I'm against giving extra freebies to the exchange are a combination of less goodies for investors + the fact other exchange mods may then expect freebies too + you get people spreading fud that you are buying off trollboxes. It's not worth the hassle in my opinion. One time... sure, I'd think that would be understandable... could even vote on it next if you want. Ongoing... too much trouble.

And I'm still waiting for anyone at all to give a good reason they are voting for option 1, where they are giving exchanges 40% or so of their monthly profits. I expect many don't even realize this, or are just voting randomly.
1277  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] QIBUCK COIN - X13 - POS/POBH - 1st Proof of Baghold and asset backed. on: August 18, 2014, 07:27:51 PM


I only mentioned this offer it as a small token for all the work they are doing in helping us handle the ICO funds, they never requested any bounties or gifts and they never charged us an ICO hosting fee, unlike Bitttrex and C-CEX that charge BTC EXTRA... was just a small suggestion but it doesn't mean we will go through with it. We are all thinking allowed here. It would have also come form the bounties and giveaway pool which would not affect Bagholders in any way fiscally.

It wouldn't affect bagholders fiscally exactly, but it'd be less goodies to give away to investors and less coins to give away for promotion.

Again, I'm fine if you say you want to give away some coin from the giveaway pool as a thank you, for their help this month, assuming it's a reasonable amount. I just don't think it should be an ongoing thing.
1278  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] QIBUCK COIN - X13 - POS/POBH - 1st Proof of Baghold and asset backed. on: August 18, 2014, 07:24:58 PM

Its called " buying them off ".  

Nice to have the Mods push their fave coin and censor the " Fudsters". Worth every penny.

I didn't want to say it, as there could be other reasons, but yeah... that's a possibility. It'd be a silly reason however, as we'd kind of see what the bounties were being used for. It's not exactly smart to say we are paying mods to push our coin, as then that 'pushing' becomes meaningless... as people know the reason behind it.
1279  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] QIBUCK COIN - X13 - POS/POBH - 1st Proof of Baghold and asset backed. on: August 18, 2014, 07:18:52 PM
I voted for option no 3 and am thinking to be fair to the POLO mods of just giving them a little bounty bag every month as a giveaway for their hard work which would come from the giveaway section.

maybe I have missed something here. Why would Polo mods be getting bounty bags? For being mods in trollbox? Even if they are hosting giveaways ect this benefits polo by keeping peoples focus on polo.

It's great that Polo hosted the ICO and blah blah blah. Polo like all other exchanges is a business that makes money from volume trading. I'm not sure why you would give them even 1 extra QBK?

I'm all for promotion and the such but as a bagholder(ICO investor) I do not want to see any profits or potential profits going to exchanges or their employees for doing their jobs. If busoni or anyone else is providing support outside of the normal services provided then this can be addressed and should be notated on the balance ledger in great detail.


If I am "out to lunch" on this please explain.

I have wondered this same exact thing. If Polo has helped out in an extra way, say they helped look over the code for you, or helped with organization... done something extra helpful, I'd be fine giving them a little extra bounty from the giveaway/bounties pool, for this month only. I see no reason to want to give them monthly bounties for simply hosting the ico/coin, as they get paid via trading fees already.

1280  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SourceCoin (SRCC) | Stake Claiming ~ ENDED on: August 18, 2014, 07:14:13 PM
didn't get my coins ,dev. I am in the list

same for me

i think that you should wait a little bit. I just get it few hours ago.

Got mine, but I was early on the list. For those impatiently waiting, there really is no giant rush. There isn't exactly a place to sell them at a decent price anyway.
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