i know i began sig campaign on a different day than most of the others and thought that might be the confusion. since i have no information i also worry maybe sunxiaoxiao doesnt like the quality of my posts?  i hope not. i have messaged him 2x already, we shall see how things turn out. hope everything is ok

I did not get paid. I was added to the sig campaign on oct 5th and rwecieved 0.1 btc on oct 5th but nothing on nov 5th and no replies to the PMs I sent to sunxiaoxiao although he has been online since then! Some info as to what is going on would be appreciated.

Im still on the list in the original thread. I posted over 60x between oct 5 and nov 5. 

I never got my sig campaign money for October. Did everyone else get paid? I'm supposed to get paid on the 5th and no replies to the PMs I sent. I'm wondering what is going on?

does this mean you need 2001 shares to qualify for transfer, or just 2000 only?

Havelock has been around for a few years now, I only started using when btctc shut and AM moved there. A lot of users complain but I have very little problem with it.
The complaints are;
1) site crashes any time there is increased activity. True this. They need to address this
2) shady or fail offerings. True some offerings have been crap. Investors should be doing more due diligence than simply trusting the platform (havelock) to protect them.
3) security. People here express doubts and fears suggesting havelock is on the brink of being hacked and everyone's btc stolen. Use 2fauth and relax!
Basically you will hear 2 types of whiners going on how bad havelock is. Opponents of centralized anything and trolls like Notlambchop who are trying to sell mpex

What is AM's Instagram called? I can't find anything for AM, asic miner, asicminer or friedcat.
 
And yeah, old picture is old.

haha
I bought a small stake. less than 0.2 btc worth. I want to see what happens, and if the first few divs are good, sale at a mark-up=profit.

not really expecting ROI but maybe between some divs and reselling the shares before they are worthless, I might make a little. might...

really I bought in because as a AM shareholder I feel I am cycling my btc back into the company and therefore future AM divs.

I was highly doubtful about the prospects of this offering at first, but under close examination I see good things. AM and Rockminer's participation are good, getting other companies on board and co operation is good. The returns are highly competative. If the estimates are correct this could be a decent investment... still a wee bit leary... so much of mining offerings dont work out... I think I will buy a small amount just to see what happens and throw more support behing AM.

I would say the innovation exists in the point where something becomes a currency. When did gold and silver begin to be used as currency? Or grain? Shiny beads and blankets (small pox thrown in gratis!)?

When did the practice of bank notes take effect? I could google all these but what I am saying is currency has been around, in one form or another, from the earliest times. Barter and trade. What occurs occasionally is a commodity turns into a currency. Bitcoin is in this transitional phase. I'm not sure what the last commodity to currency event was or when it happened.

The last time society said "hey, let's call this until-now valueless object money and accept it in trade for goods and services!"? Would that event be the credit/debit card?

Historians will look at it as part of the process of humanities integration with digital technology, which we've been on for some time now and I suspect will be more fully immersive one day.

Or not.

Bitcoin does have a unique place in history though, even if it failed tomorrow, the block chain is here to stay

I don't understand, what are you doing that is so different?
As far as I can tell you want to assemble miners and set up a cloud mining thingy. Plus you want to IPO so that you have a huge pile of funds to expand once operational. I would ask if I'm missing something, but I really have so little info about your business plan that I'm not even sure what exactly you are wanting to do (besides raise funds)

Sorrry man, but its like you came here and said; "Hey guys I got a great idea, tell me what you think..." and thats about it.

That isn't much to think on.

If I did a faucet every 15 min, every day, 365 days a year I would lose what's left of my wee mind, and it would only take about 4 hours.

You'll make more money collecting returnable bottles from the trash. More dignified too, lol

I would lay low right now and see how this SEC thing plays out. It will affect you like it or not, plus, SEC has stated they are monitoring this forum, so I would avoid the "I don't want to do this by the books" type sentiments. You'll just get their attention and create more heat for the already operating guys.

Now, there is such a thing as a privately traded company. I have money invested in a private mortgage company (real world, fiat investment) they do not trade publicly so they don't have to follow the same rules as publicly traded entities. I wonder if this type of set up might be applicable in this sphere?

“A key element of the letter requires that those receiving the letter stay quiet and treat it as confidential. They may seek legal counsel but they may not reveal the fact they received a letter to those who are not directly involved with responding to the letter nor the public so the exact number of letters going out nor the companies receiving them will not be revealed by those affected without legal consequences."

Looks like no one can say, yet.

I get the feeling that there has been some collaboration between the SEC and the few members they have gone after so far. Meaning; they haul some operator in, scare him with threats of heavy fines and jail, then offer leniency if he cooperates by giving some names. Not very likely since the SEC only need to look on bitcointalk to get everything they need.

Still, I wouldnt put it past a guy like micrea popscu to get all snippy and start saying they have no right to pick on him when everybody's doing it and then start selling out every single operator out there.

This could spell the end of this little securities game here. Oh well, we're just going to have to find new ways to lose our btc

here you go..

As Kenny slumbers in the MSD “boiler room” and Agent Hagerty and his dame go out on the town, visions are dancing in his head. Not visions of Sugar Plum Fairies mind you, similar but different. What dances in Kenny’s head are visions of Sugar Bum-Chums, a certain bum chum in particular, to be exact, and distant memories of the long past afternoons spent in each other’s loving embrace. Ahhhhh, Kenny was almost feeling warm and safe, lost in his dreaming of Zum Zero’s warm salty kisses. When he had met him, Zum was still doing the rounds, selling himself to anyone with 20 pesos or simply giving it away in the lowest dirtiest toilets in Tijuana. He looked so pathetic, kneeling there beside the urinals, with his moustache dripping like a glazed donut and clutching at the trousers of the cripples and madmen who filtered through. Kenny instantly fell in love, right then and there. He pulled the wasted human ashtray to his feet and slapped his face sending blobs of smegma in all directions and knocking zum out of his priapic stupor just long enough to tell him straight up; ”Boy, I want you! I want your body! Come away from here, with me. I’m here to save you, son.”
Zumzero can’t believe it. All his life he had been nothing but a toilet boy, a sub-bottom who existed in filth and lived only to be stepped on and spat on and have cigarettes put out on his naked chest. He never even let himself dream that there could be more, but now this. Sure the guy was old, and his breath smelled like Lysol, and he was morbidly obese, and bald, and “not much” down there. And, Oh yeah, the chronic flatulence…but, of course, zum kinda dug that actually. He liked to get right in there and sniff it all in, bury his face in those pale, sweaty ass cheeks and just feast on Kenny’s hot blasts of retched gas. True love and a match made in heaven.
They got a cheap room and didn’t emerge for days, just lying around in each other’s arms, lovingly feeding each other, Ken feeding zum Jaffa Cakes and Marmite, zum feeding Kenny 151% corn liquor and pickled eggs. Bliss. But soon enough reality began to creep back in “I can’t stay here forever my love” Kenny explained to zumzero, “ I told everybody I was in California doing some kinda technology dealie…I have to return to Missouri sometime…they’ll get suspicious.”
“I don’t understand,” says zum, “are you an engineer? Is it some sort of IT thing?”
“I couldn’t tell you if I knew my little Zummy-Wummy, the whole thing is a mystery to me…it has something to do with internet and math n stuff, at least that’s what I think it is…”
Ken looks off into the middle distance and sighs…”look, its like this; I say all this random bullshit online and there are people out there who are stupid enough to give me money.”
“What?” Zum ejaculated, “Real money?”
“No” Kenny replied, wiping the ejaculate from his forehead, “bitcoin money, but my nephew says its ok and he buys them from me for 5 cents a piece! HA! I’m really a rich guy, you know, I’ve made over 27 dollars doing this, and The Man is none the wiser.”
A police siren sounded outside and a pack of viscous dogs went wild taking the edge off the romantic mood in this skid row flop-house room and replacing it with a vague sense of dread for a moment.
“That sounds really keen, Daddy” says Zum, spellbound by this immense shit-pile of a man and his fantastical tales of riches and gold. Easy money! “and I think I know a way I can help…”

I never bothered to look and see because he's always been so obvious. I just didn't realize he wat that obvious. Like, virtually zero other activity here. So he's a Slaughter hmmmm? Better write him into my "story" lol.

https://cryptothrift.com/auctions/healing-products/msa-millennium-face-gas-ebola-mask-w3m-filter/

bitcoin user not affected infected

http://cointelegraph.com/news/112811/us-regulators-one-two-punch-sec-probes-crowdsales-fincen-takes-aim-at-exchanges

I have this image in my head of Kenny down at the MSD offices. Single chair in a darkened room. A lone bare bulb shines hanging from the ceiling. The 3rd degree. Agent Hagerty throws a distressed telephone book aside and wipes the blood off his knuckles. "Listen Slaughter, you cheap rummy, you better come clean, and quick! Are you ready to talk, or do you want some more "deep tissue massage"?"

"Alright, alright, I'll sing! I'll tell you anything you want...you want names? I'll give you names, thousands of names! I bought the whole email list of every user at bitcointalk off some guy at fivver, you can have the whole lot, they're all scamming and screwing each other so hard over there you wont know if you're a man or a woman by the time you get out! Its a goldmine!"

"Shaddap!" SMACK, and Agent Hagerty lets Kenny have it right across the kisser. That shuts him up a little, except for some quiet sobbing. "If there's anything I hate more than a Securities Fraudster and sloppy drunk its a low-down, no-good, two-timing snitch!" Kenny sobbing looks up and tries to speak with a trembling lip before BAM its a mean left hook and sweet dreams for Kenny.

As Agent Hagerty leaves the interrogation room he stops to toss the list of names and adresses onto the secretary's desk. "Just pop that over to the boys at the SEC office when you get a chance, ok toots? There's enough in there to take down the whole Midwest and beyond.  He named everybody, right up to the top." Nodding his head as her disbelief met his eyes, "Thats right, sweetheart, he even gave me capo il tuti capo himself...Dorian Nakamoto!"

Impressed, secretary holds the sheet gingerly and then ventures to ask; "...but what will become of our friend" gesturing to the KO'd Ken Slaughter sleeping it off in the back room.

"That bum? A one way ticket to Palookaville is what he gets baby, and thats all he gets. Shoulda known better than try and cut a deal with a Missouri Regional Securities Enforcement Counsellor! C'mon dollface, get your coat and hat, we're going to go celebrate! Let's you and me go get a couple o' juicy steaks over at the brown derby, huh? We'll leave that sucker here to dry out a little...where he's going the only thing they'll be serving is Intellihash."

Music and fade out

Ok, this part of the letter;

And, the whole thing is voluntary for now...

I really don't know what will come of this, even how the SEC could enforce anything if operators work and reside out of country? Wouldn't their only option to be to ban U.S. citizens from trading on such services? I don't know enough about these areas of international and business law.

SEC's mandate is to protect american investors. How would they go about policing the foreign based companies caught doing something wrong? Interpol?

Falling btc, no divs, now this! Yeeeesh

I'm not sure if I like XBT. Can't seem to put my finger on why...