Those who lost funds to Mt Gox did so on their own volition, including the Mt Gox Terms of Service which I assume had the necessary legal disclaimers about culpability for theft. Does that mean the investors weren't scammed?

Those who invest in a token on their own volition, inherently expect that the market for those tokens is not manipulated by the insiders controlling the float by having a scam scheme to control > 50% of the tokens in existence. Satoshi controls maybe at most 1% of the Bitcoins that will be in existence.

Criminals find clever ways to obscure their crimes such as your Dash accomplice semantic slime quoted above, but that still doesn't make them legal. IANAL but I am reasonably certain that Evan and the unnamed insiders have broken the laws that the SEC and FinCEN are tasked to enforce.

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I just don't see how pretending to not have committed scams can be tolerated. It would be different if Evan stopped lying about intentionally doing the instamine instead of claiming it was an accident which I have explained is implausible because every lead developer will be monitoring his coin carefully on launch to see the coins are being issued at the correct rate. It doesn't take hours to make that determination. Also dEBRUYNE has provided quotes of Evan as additional evidence that he is lying.

If Evan stopped trying to obscure the fact that he intentionally set up a way to control the float and > 50% of the tokens, then we could say that investors have full disclosure and thus if they are scammed it is on their own FULLY INFORMED volition.

Until Evan makes FULL DISCLOSURE of the truth, then he is scammer. There is no other valid sentiment.

So you advocate them selling investment securities in an opaque market without full disclosures and allowing non-accredited investors to buy your very risky stage speculations. But society has decided it is better to have full disclosure and to prevent non-accredited investors from speculating with their lunch money in order to have a better functioning society. Same as society has decided that prosecuting crack dealers is better for society. If you want more rights, then don't task the government with doing what we should do ethically. Otherwise there is no recourse for society other than to hand that regulatory power to the government, which as we know leads to corruption (all power corrupts absolutely).

You can't just say you want more rights, when that means injuring others, because injuring others is not a right.

It has been elaborated in other threads that premines/ICOs/instamines are the antithesis of non-maniluated, permissionless, decentralized systems.

Links about Google's alleged involvement in the Benghazi, Hillary Clinton, Libyan, Middle East war machine.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/2016-u-s-presidential-election/hillarys-emails-very-disturbing-show-link-to-google/
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jared_Cohen&oldid=705613599
https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aarmstrongeconomics.com+Benghazi

The following are provided for the succinct verbal summaries, not to promote a specific religion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu41CPQw0hg#t=78
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/armstrong-in-the-media/the-forecaster/hollywood-ready-or-not-here-we-come/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPshSBNzb6U#t=125

I thought your first priority is getting out of medical school debt, before worrying about preserving wealth you don't yet have. And I ponder the argument that Bitcoin and gold don't have counterparty risk is dubious. If the governments institute capital controls, gold will be approximately as useful (short-term) as dirt. I realize this is debatable, but I think one prioritizes getting out of debt when in debt and not prematurely planning for a very difficult to predict chaos coming after 2017. I'd rather profit now, then readjust my lens in 2017 according to what is the best information then.


Largest in numbers I think will be India. Largest in monetary value probably China. I understand it adds a skill, I just worry about the exclusionary emphasis. I ponder you may be top-down planning your children's interests too much. Why not learn Latin, Spanish, and Chinese. I was taught Latin and French in high school.


The average for the white Asians is reasonably high (but not as high as some ethnic Jews) but their variance on the right tail is truncated. This may have been only for the brown skinned Melanesians, I forget. Perhaps conformance sacrifices outliers, which is apparently the trait of females. Perhaps it originated from communal rice growing which is much more labor intensive than wheat farming.

Frankly I am not as enamored with the physiques of Asians any more. No buttocks. No hips. Frail bodies. The Chinese faces are no longer appealing to me as they were when I was Asian-crazed in my 20s and 30s. Don't get me wrong, there are still some Asians that I think are hot, but for the most part I am burned out on Asia. Been over here half of my life.

I guess I distaste China's combination of conformance with "who you know is more important than what you know" and their corrupt and low-quality approaches to business. On the filipinos, although I love their playfulness, I grow weary of other aspects.


I really needed to edit my statement about females, because it is difficult to explain what I mean in a soundbite. See the thread I started in the Politics & Society this past week. Females have their priorities around family and society. They are not interested in disrupting power structures. Thus they are more likely to fall prey to "political correctness".

Yeah boys are being totally stripped of their masculinity by the politically correct feminism. I just don't see how adding another religion on top of the feminist religion is going to help them gain objectivity. Boys need a firm grasp on objectivity early on.

Believing in what can't be falsified is a delusion. One can't make a rational assessment of what they can't measure. Religion exists collectively for a reason as you pointed out in your recent analysis. Whether it is best for myself and my family is dubious to me. But then again, I don't have a good conceptual plan of how to raise kids within the society we have now. The society will have now looks like a Frankenstein to me.

I don't have all the answers. I am just saying religion made me more confused. What is driving me now is the desire to be a positive force in society and to maximize my role as a man, which means I am not going to pretend that a man doesn't want to have sex with more than one woman. I am not going to deny my male evolutionary strategy and make myself feel guilty for being a man. The Bible would make a man crazy. Do you know how many times I refused to have sex from 2006 - 2010 because I was thinking about what Matthew 19 says about bonding in the flesh means you are married to every one of those women. I realized now that is absolute horseshit. If I find the one woman I want to be exclusively partnered for the rest of my life, then great. If not, great. So instead of being confused, I can be more pragmatic about making sure all the choices I make, I am responsible for them instead of seeing my choices as weaknesses that only God can control. I have to be the man I want to be. Nobody and no God can be it for me. Having said that, I don't believe in hurting women or their feelings, but I do think gaming their hypergamy is a valid evolutionary strategy.

Is there a higher force? Yeah probably, but not an omniscient entity, i.e. God. More like a frequency or a harmony.

If Dash wants to become legit for Evolution, then relaunch with a fair mining distribution. And remove the dividends for masternode scheme. Simple.

Both of which are absolutely necessary for any serious adoption by users due third party investment into the ecosystem (e.g. network effects).

It is quite possible to get off the scam list (although the historic scam record remains), but the Dash insiders don't want to give up their scam.

It worked since you are paying attention.

I like to debate. I hone my knowledge and articulation. I like the challenge.

What do you like to do?

I have both praised Satoshi and also pointed out the deceptions in his white paper.

Evan hasn't innovated anything. His InstantX was insecure per the math error I revealed. The anonymity was broken from the start, which is what I told him and then he invented masternodes to fix the CoinJoin jamming issue, but the masternode makes the anonymity insecure, the InstantX insecure, and funnels the coins to the insiders ongoing; as well probably violates FinCEN regulations requiring masternodes to register as MSBs. x11 is a fucking insecure nonsense that has been explained over and over.

The Vitalik nonsense has been detailed in the Ethereum Paradox thread.


Why do you Dash accomplices continue to promote my work when we are here to discuss Dash? Thanks but really I didn't ask you to do that.


Smooth's contribution to Monero was as a highly technical communicator and liason. He did his role very effectively. In contrast, Evan hides away from this forum because he can't handle the technical level of the discussion. And he doesn't want to be caught in lies and illogical statements.


Evan I hear started off copying the code from another coin (Bitcoin I believe).

Bytecoin was an 80+% premine, so Monero forked it. This is the way open source works.

Fluffypony made a gambling site and made a profit. He didn't do any deception. People who want to gamble go to his site.


I was very much against Monero when they used to spam every other coins' threads. I told them all that directly. And they hated me too. Now they seem to have stopped doing that (as I advised them to) and so now they are off my shit list and recognized for being the only really fair and serious altcoin.


No I didn't know that. He and I used to fight always, but he stopped attacking me when I stopped attacking Monero. I was very much against the HASHFAST scam. I know some of those who lost money.


Again this discussion was not about the technical merits of the coin. It was about scamming and ripping off the n00b investors.

If you want to compare Monero's technology to Dash, it will be highly embarrassing for Dash. I hear it takes 10 minutes to mix a transaction on Dash, the masternodes can steal/sell your privacy, etc..



Hate towards scammers. No hate towards successful people who are a positive force for our society and especially our Bitcoin community ideals and goals.

I would instead suggest following Martin Armstrong and investing in the US stock market when he gives the go signal. Also buying corporate bonds as he is shouting now to do. Bitcoin and gold probably haven't bottomed yet. You are probably premature. Armstrong continues to hit every prediction exactly. I don't understand the skepticism.


English will be the language of international business because we need a common language and it is the defacto default. Also the coding geeks are driving the global economy and we demand fluent English speakers. I don't know why anyone would want to adopt the Communist/conformist culture and language. Encouraging them to marry a Chinese man? I love my kids and are proud of them but I'd prefer not to have kids with an Asian again, because of the inferior IQ (at the right tail) and conformance to authority genes (there is a study where Asian babies don't have a strong gag reflex to fight off having their nose covered, although my daughter seems to have in large part not inherited that or the filipinos may not carry that same trait). And I started off in life being anti-racist, and still am but I am also pragmatic about statistical facts.



With boys I'd prefer not to instill this religion delusion (but then that sort of makes it impossible to enforce on the girls if the men in the family also don't subscribe to the delusion), but with girls in the USA I can understand it is necessary to have an alternative structure to the their indoctrination via the media and public schools because females are typically incapable of long-range discernment on social indoctrination.

I grew up an atheist even though my grandparents wanted me to be a Baptist. Around 2006 I tried becoming a nondenominational Christian. It destroyed my life because instead of taking responsibility for myself, I blamed everything on sin and God and entirely lost my moral compass (yes religion is an excuse to have no moral compass because we all will sin is what the Bible says). My life has been improving since I regained my rationality.

Having said that, I don't spew venom against those who believe in a God. I can't falsify it.

I grew up to age 15 in New Orleans and Baton Rouge and due to poverty I attended schools which were all negro students other than myself and my sister.

I can confirm that racism was an issue 20 years ago. I used to argue with my grandmother about her racism towards African Americans.

However, this has to a large extent been eroded by the youth who interact cross-racially and cross-culturally.

There is nothing really the State needs to do. Popular culture such as rap and R&B music erode the barrier between the races and cultures.

Note several years ago I debated existential philosophy with Chomsky in email. He was very chatty and cordial.

I've been warned that Chomsky is a mouthpiece for the banksters who fund grassroots "Astroturf" movements in order to control the people.

Yeah I knew that I baited you. Thanks.

I was basically wanting to expose his wannabe magnate statements.

Actually I don't dislike Americanpegasus. There are people that annoy us at times, that we can still like. I probably am that for some here.

We wish. Sadly that is unlikely to be the case because the mentality amongst speculators is to follow the pump to try to earn some profit. Damn the technological and adoption fundamentals.

P&Ds are irresistible to the gambler "crack addicts".

On the positive side, Ethereum's ICO was publicized, its development is open source as it is happening. OTOH, the potential price manipulation by insiders and the distribution of the ICO is not open source.

A cocaine dealer has real victims even though they consented to buying the dope.

Do harmful activities and you are not a positive force for society.

You really need to work on understanding some basic facts about being a positive versus negative force in society. You accusing me of being immoral is akin to the murderer accusing the prison warden of capital punishment.

Perhaps you are young and need to gain some wisdom of the years.

Here in Davao, there is no BS. Deal drugs, you die. Simple.

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When are you going to stop being disingenuous? Is this the way your criminal mindset really operates?

The issue is that Evan lied to the community and set up a premine as an instamine and is still lying about it. And on top of that he set up a masternode funnel which directs the tokens continuously back to the insiders and he even lied for one year about the security of the masternodes in the InstantX white paper until I found the high school level math error. This instamine+masternode funnel ostensibly enables them to control the float and run P&D price manipulation which enables them to direct the capital inflow from speculators maximally into their own pockets in a manipulated market.

There is a reason that these activities are illegal in the USA under the 1930s Securities Act.


Satoshi didn't run an instamine. He published it for everyone and the mining was available to people with a CPU for a year.

How disingenuous can you be to equate two situations which are not at all analogous.


Haha. Watch and learn something. I challenge you to make that claim. Because I will have some data to make you eat your claim.


There will be no whales in my work on crypto token unless they buy on a free market post launch. Please stay on topic about Dash.


You are promoting my work. I didn't mention it here. I would prefer you stay on topic about Dash.


Suggestion to think some more until you figure out what I am doing.

Monero has had some accusations due to inheriting an unoptimized Cryptonite hash from Bytecoin which they did not optimize until after the launch. Nevertheless the coin was not instamined and the fairness of the hash has long since been dealt with. And thus Monero has the lowest scam rating on the poll and I did and Dash the highest. And Monero being an non-manipulated market has finally broken out of the downwedge (as priced in BTC) and is now in a long-term bullish formation w.r.t. to BTC. I don't own any Monero.


Or you can sell shares in a for-profit company and make the token a separate item.


Yep. And the SEC has regulations against this. Developers better be damn careful about their trades, because the government is standing aside letting everyone in our community incriminate themselves and post 2018 they will coming after everyone with the investigations.


A developer can merely respond that they have a record of all their trades and when prompted by the appropriate authorities, they can make these records available in private to those regulators.

Best is make sure the coin is finished asap, and so you don't need to continue to develop it. This is why developing a coin with a separation-of-concerns and plugins is an important innovation. As I said, watch and learn.


The typical criminal mind employs this illogic of equating rape to swimming in a pool where a boy ejaculated.


Absolutely yes. Evan is a bit more clever than Mark Karpeles, but they both scam the Bitcoin community.

Edit: AlexGR, please don't equate a developer taking say 1% of the coins for his efforts which does not give him any control to do P&D price manipulation, to the 33% instamine of Dash (ostensibly for the insiders) and probably well in excess of 50% of the coin supply given the masternode funnel design.

It may not. But in my case at age 51 (June), no retirement, no pension, no savings and health issues, I would first need to take care of those issues before spending my idle time on purely honor tasks. Also it is possible one might need such resources to attack a coin that is PoS based on its masternodes. Maybe not. The technical details will have to be worked out at that future time, and after Evolution is released. I am confident that due to the necessity of retaining the masternode funnel, it will be impossible for Evolution to produce a secure design. If the masternodes were not stake (deposit) based, then I wouldn't be able to say that. Note it may become necessary to short the coin in order to cover the cost of attacking it. Again all these details have to be sorted at the appropriate time. It is possible that one digs in and discovers there is no actual volume that isn't the insiders and/or massive collusion amongst insider masternodes in violation of the protocol, and in that case the entire coin is fake and not worth attacking, as well as being impossible to attack perhaps in that case.

It may also be the case that it is personally more efficient to hire a hacker than to be that hacker. Delegation is what wealthy people do.