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1321  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Trade your nubits to BitUSD on bter.com NOW, before they become worthless! on: January 16, 2015, 08:56:05 PM
Do you even know what proof is? Cheesy the peg is maintained with US dollars. there are exchanges that have NBT/USD trading pairs and that's where the peg is originally maintained. The NBT/BTC traiding pairs are just some random internet people doing arbitrage.
Where are those exchanges?   Huh

https://nubits.com/exchanges
for example:
https://www.ccedk.com/nbt-usd
https://www.ccedk.com/nbt-eur

1322  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Trade your nubits to BitUSD on bter.com NOW, before they become worthless! on: January 16, 2015, 08:25:48 PM
This is further proof that the collateral backing nubits has been sitting as bitcoin, and has thus been severely hit by the 33% fall where thousands of bitcoin was dumped on the "trusted" custodians.

NUBITS IS INSOLVENT, THEY OPENLY ADMIT THIS.

NUBITS = FRACTIONAL RESERVE

Do you even know what proof is? Cheesy the peg is maintained with US dollars. there are exchanges that have NBT/USD trading pairs and that's where the peg is originally maintained. The NBT/BTC traiding pairs are just some random internet people doing arbitrage.
1323  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Trade your nubits to BitUSD on bter.com NOW, before they become worthless! on: January 16, 2015, 07:50:18 PM
This is exaggerated FUD that contains misinformation. Why on earth would the reserves to guarantee 1 USD peg to be held in bitcoin? That's just stupid. These reserves are mainly in USD and only a small amount is available in BTC.

Jordan specifically said their *goal* is 0% reserves, which means they are really backing it with NSR's ability to inflate to buy back NBT

The main trading pair is NBT/USD. They hold USD to maintain the peg. Bitcoin can go to zero, it doesn't change the amount of dollars available for maintaining the peg of 1 NBT per 1 USD.

Right now they do, but again Jordan said their plan is to have NO reserves at all.

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There are some reserves right now. My point is that because reserves equate to counterparty risk and are not necessarily useful in backing NuBits, we are aiming for 0% reserves,  not 100%.

So the only mechanism there to support nubit price if it starts falling is to NBT to NSR burn (equivalent to inflating NSR to buy back NBT), which is in the process of being implemented.

I think you misunderstood what Jordan might have meant by having no reserves. It means that the "reserves" are actually in use by the custodians to maintain the peg. There are no reserves just sitting somewhere in a vault waiting for a bad day. The latter would be just stupid. Instead, this money is constantly being used to maintain the buy side walls. I think you should clarify for yourself what exactly is meant by reserves. If you find that out, enlighten me too, please.
1324  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Trade your nubits to BitUSD on bter.com NOW, before they become worthless! on: January 16, 2015, 07:41:05 PM
This is exaggerated FUD that contains misinformation. Why on earth would the reserves to guarantee 1 USD peg to be held in bitcoin? That's just stupid. These reserves are mainly in USD and only a small amount is available in BTC.

Any proof of this? From the internal discussion it's pretty clear that "trusted" nubot custodians are NOT hedging the BTC they got dumped on them.

Any proof of the opposite?
1325  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Trade your nubits to BitUSD on bter.com NOW, before they become worthless! on: January 16, 2015, 07:31:57 PM
This is exaggerated FUD that contains misinformation. Why on earth would the reserves to guarantee 1 USD peg to be held in bitcoin? That's just stupid. These reserves are mainly in USD and only a small amount is available in BTC.

Jordan specifically said their *goal* is 0% reserves, which means they are really backing it with NSR's ability to inflate to buy back NBT

The main trading pair is NBT/USD. They hold USD to maintain the peg. Bitcoin can go to zero, it doesn't change the amount of dollars available for maintaining the peg of 1 NBT per 1 USD.
1326  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Trade your nubits to BitUSD on bter.com NOW, before they become worthless! on: January 16, 2015, 07:22:03 PM
This is exaggerated FUD that contains misinformation. Why on earth would the reserves to guarantee 1 USD peg to be held in bitcoin? That's just stupid. These reserves are mainly in USD and only a small amount is available in BTC.
1327  Economy / Speculation / Re: Dead Cat Bounce? on: January 16, 2015, 07:15:06 PM

You honestly think that the Nu team hasn't thought of BTC crashing to ashes?

Read this topic: https://discuss.nubits.com/t/when-bitcoin-crashes/1132
1328  Economy / Speculation / Re: Dead Cat Bounce? on: January 16, 2015, 11:14:02 AM
Sounds as simple as creating money (value) by printing some more.

Not so simple actually. It's simple when demand exceeds supply constantly. Then the NuShareholders would just print more nubits to satisfy the demand. However, when the supply exceeds demand things go tricky.

You can park your nubits for interest, for example. That's an artificial means to reduce supply. You cannot use your parked nubits for a certain period of time but after that you will receive interest for the parking period. This should motivate people not to sell at times when supply exceeds demand. Also, the nushareholders have enough funds to simply buy all the excess nubits from the market and keep the price pegged to a desired value.
1329  Economy / Speculation / Re: Dead Cat Bounce? on: January 16, 2015, 10:47:01 AM
Why would you want to tie cryptocurrency to FIAT? Finally, there is an alternative to rotten fiat money!!

Startups like Bitreserve and alike will hedge the volatility issue for vendors and users. However, once our current financial system blows up for good, no one will ever care how much US Dollar one Bitcoin is worth. One Bitcoin is one Bitcoin. Can't wait to find out what purchasing power comes with it, though Smiley

OR...Bitcoin will fail.

Imho Bitcoin (right now) is a gamble with increasing odds over time.

Because FIAT is not so volatile. If at any point USD becomes too weak or volatile and it is no longer reasonable to keep nubits pegged to USD the peg can be dropped. As simple as that. It's up to NuShareholders to choose what the peg is. When USD becomes worthless, NuShareholders will simply choose another peg. The whole point of it is the separation of currency function from the store of value function.
1330  Economy / Speculation / Re: Taking a loan to buy bitcoin on: January 16, 2015, 09:18:32 AM
Why don't you do the actual rational thing and wait to see if your currently owned bitcoins ever get remotely close to your purchasing price before you try and double your risk factor at a huge loss?

Because averaging my cost per Bitcoin by buying cheap does not double my risk factor. It only increases it by about 50%; since the price of Bitcoin can only go down to 0. I can still liquidate my previously purchased Bitcoin at a 50% loss.

The year previous, I bought at $100, and sold at an average price of about $500 (missed selling at the peak by a month or so). Waiting for the price to rise again is just asking to buy high, sell low. I prefer to buy low, sell high. The difficulty of course is that nobody knows which way the price will swing at any given moment.

So, let's assume there's 60% chance that bitcoin crashes further and 40% chance that the bottom is in and it will now start to increase again. Why not hold 60% of your wealth in USD/NBT then and 40% in BTC? If it goes significantly lower again, use your USD/NBT to buy more BTC. If it goes higher, great! You will earn less but at least you have taken a smaller risk.
1331  Economy / Speculation / Re: Mastering Fear on: January 16, 2015, 08:35:21 AM
Good post! Makes me remind this post:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/01/14/bitcoin-is-revealed-a-ponzi-scheme-for-redistributing-wealth-from-one-libertarian-to-another/

the bottom must be near Cheesy one more giant drop to perhaps sub 100$ and UP we go.
1332  Economy / Speculation / Re: Dead Cat Bounce? on: January 16, 2015, 08:30:43 AM
probably yes like the one happened before this dump

What scares me is the situation where everyone starts to expect dead cat bounces. What would happen then? The crashes would get even deeper and bounces would shrink into one giant crash to the bottom? Cheesy
1333  Economy / Speculation / Dead Cat Bounce? on: January 16, 2015, 08:06:19 AM
I just want to hear some plain old chart speculation, so here's the chart:



What do you think? Is it a dead cat bounce? I've seen those bounces many times in the past but never acted upon it. This time I did sell some BTC at 220$ out of curiosity. According to the Law of Conservation of Irony, it should not be a dead cat bounce (because this time I acted upon an assumption that it is).

Here's my line of logic: last time when we had this bear whale battle then it was different because there was probably some actual buying pressure at 270. This time I don't recall we had any crazy price action at 150$. But since it was such a violent drop I would think that it was something more than "normal" volatility. Whoever did it would profit from it if the price ended up lower than 150$, right? So should we expect more to follow?

Or perhaps if it truly is manipulation then we could see an upwards spike to 300+ prices as we have seen before. Those prices won't last long though.

I think the overall thinking has now changed to bearish. I mean, look at even this post. It's rather bearish, don't you think? Cheesy
Interestingly the buy/sell walls look different than what they were some time ago. Right now it seems that it doesn't take much to make the price go up but previously the buy and sell side walls were more or less equal.


Over the past months I have started to think about a possibility that events happen to deliver people/participants the experience they need. I have come to a conclusion that if you are buying/selling cryptocurrencies for the wrong reasons then you will lose no matter what the true potential of those currencies is.

Right now it seems that many people interested in Bitcoin don't even know/care how it works. A slow and painful downfall is a perfect scenario to "shake out the weak hands". An even better scenario would be if Bitcoin went down and stayed down, never to significantly rise again. That way early adopters would still remain in profit and all the others would be in a loss.

The round 2 would be that some other cryptocurrency gains great value over a short period of time. The get-rich-quickers lose that opportunity since there are so many altcoins out there and the only reasonable way to invest is to carefully review them and select out the promising ones.

Now that people more or less know what cryptocurrencies are, they will find new uses for them. There's no doubt. However, at some point we all get sick and tired of the volatility. Of course at first it was fun to make good profit from a small investment but times have changed. It's time to start using the technology in real life business scenarios. Even if you think that eventually BTC would stabilize and no longer be volatile it doesn't mean the economy is willing to wait that. There's demand for volatility free cryptocurrencies right now and whoever solves the problem will dethrone Bitcoin. I personally bet on NuBits. The fact that 1 NBT is always 1 USD is so precious that sooner or later online merchants/service providers will switch to using them instead of bitcoin.
1334  Economy / Speculation / Re: Taking a loan to buy bitcoin on: January 16, 2015, 07:13:51 AM

We're smart in retrospect, aren't we? Do you seriously think that there will ever be low risk high reward situations? If you're not willing to take risks you will never succeed. NEVER! My advice is always to take risks. Obviously it means that you will fail a lot but trivial probability theory and mathematical statistics say that if you get up and keep going after every setback then you will eventually succeed. Or, you will never succeed because you are motivated by the wrong reasons Smiley
1335  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why I believe a beautiful and very bullish Bitcoin storm is forming on: January 15, 2015, 08:46:52 PM
Aaaaand Back to $220! It's always darkest before the dawn  Wink

At least we are moving in the right direction now.  When we get into the 300s and 400's things will pick up more speed.

3 days for the Resurrection, then 40 days until the Ascension, iirc

Yes. Miracles can happen!  Smiley

I wouldn't count on it. Why don't you just make a compromise and sell half of your position and keep the other half? If you can't really afford Bitcoin going to 0 you have put yourself in a very dangerous position you don't want to be in when things go south again. Smiley

Dead cat bounce, anyone? I sold some more BTC at 220. Now it's 205.
1336  Economy / Speculation / Re: 150$ Bearish Dream in September 2014 on: January 15, 2015, 12:18:22 PM
fact is that when I foresaw 200+ prices it actually ended up at 1200$.
this time I foresaw 150- prices, so quick extrapolation gives us 25$ prices for the bottom Cheesy

My post history here is littered with 'prophetic' dreams. The human sub-conscious knows shit that is way beyond the processing capabilities of our conscious mind. Conscious mind can hold between 7-12 factors in consideration when dealing with issues, subconscious mind deals with factors in their millions. Big disadvantage of subconsciously derived insight is that it doesn't deal in 'hard facts', but more with 'implied emotional meaning'. In otherwords, subconscious insight is generally vague, jumbled, and often cryptic.

You're quite right there about that. To open ourselves for new perceptions we must abandon some of the junk we've been trained to pay attention to since childhood. For example, the society has trained us to value marrying and reproduction to the point where we think that this is our ultimate goal in life. What folly. Due to that we keep our awareness occupied with those implanted thoughts just to fit in the society.
1337  Economy / Speculation / Re: 3600 ... coins on: January 15, 2015, 10:24:30 AM
can someone please correct me if i'm wrong but my understanding is that 3600 coins generated is a small amount compared to what it sold on exchanged daily

so when the block reward halfs next year it will reduce some selling but only a small percentage - so just a little less downwards pressure on price

Bitcoin started with 1 user. Now it has more.

I am not sure if every 100% of people in the world uses Bitcoin or not, I cannot verify this.

But the theory is that the rate of adoption might be higher than the rate of inflation. But if we are at 100% adoption then the rate of inflation is like 10% per year that the price will need to go down, until next year where it is 5%.

Has anyone looked at the stats? Are we at 100% adoption yet?

I can confirm we are at 102.6% global adoption.

So Martians are finally getting into the game...

to da moon!

We soon move from global adoption phase to global abduction!!! The Martians are coming!
1338  Economy / Speculation / Re: 150$ Bearish Dream in September 2014 on: January 15, 2015, 09:12:18 AM
You think we are now safe from $150 because the price is $19x now?

Not at all! no new money is coming in this dying market, at the same time huge money is cashing out every day,

Bearish Dream is total capitulation, sub $100 for sure

I don't think we're safe. All can happen now.

edit:
fact is that when I foresaw 200+ prices it actually ended up at 1200$.
this time I foresaw 150- prices, so quick extrapolation gives us 25$ prices for the bottom Cheesy
1339  Economy / Speculation / 150$ Bearish Dream in Sept 2014 --> 25$ bottom? on: January 15, 2015, 08:54:30 AM
Those of you who remember, I had a bullish dream in October 2013 just before the big rally to 1000+. I was shocked by the fact that the dream actually manifested. After that I didn't know what to think of my dreams. It was clear that sometimes my dreams did not manifest in this world so I couldn't trust them and I kept quiet about them.

Anyway, to the point. In September 2014 I had this disturbing bearish dream that was somehow very similar to the October 2013 dream in every aspect except that this time it was a bearish dream. I was looking at the charts and saw bitcoin falling as low as 150$. For some reason I did not feel like losing money in that dream. I just observed and stayed neutral. Of course when I woke up I was worried about the dream because I had other expectations for Bitcoin. I was expecting another rally. Due to that internal conflict in me, I did not dare to make another topic about the dream as I did in October 2013. However, something in me forced me to mention that dream in a couple of posts, so those of you who need proof, here it is:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=809686.msg9071590#msg9071590
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=812265.msg9093365#msg9093365




The ironic part is that I was in another city during the days when it became obvious that my dream could actually manifest again. So I couldn't sell any bitcoins, I just had to observe the happening. However, the funny thing was that as all the cryptos were falling, one crypto was rising like a boss --- NuShares. I learned about nushares quite in the beginning and perhaps due to the suspicion that BTC may not do very good in the near future I bought massively into NSR.



I don't know what happens next because my September 2014 dream ended with 150$ bitcoins Cheesy. Is it the bottom? Yesterday I sold 10 bitcoins at 180$ just to relieve the tension to sell a bit. If it goes lower, I feel good for doing at least something. If it goes up and stays up, 10 bitcoins is not that big of a loss. Besides, the NuShares rally has been a really nice hedge against BTC's painful fall. I actually sold quite a decent amount of BTCs when it traded at 300$ last time due to secret reasons. I still hold that money as nubits because I would obviously not trust Bitstamp nor banks with my fiat after what happened. 1 NBT always being 1 USD is a perfect hedge against BTC's downfall and neutralizes the threat from Bitstamp and banks who cannot be trusted with your money. I can hold nubits in my wallet and it's like holding USD.

I must admit I have mixed feelings about making this topic because it sounds like bragging. I don't brag any more because after reading some serious spiritual books I started to fight my self-importance. I even deleted my facebook on the 1st of January 2015 because I kept some muscle flexing bodybuilding photos there Cheesy (not a very wise thing to do for a person trying to beat his self-importance). So why did I make this topic? Because it's an awesome tale of power and I have no personal gains here. I know that whatever my dreams are, I am not able to abuse them for personal gains. I will not start a blog of my dreams and what not. All I hope is that some will find this topic relevant to their esoteric interests.

edit: changed the title a bit
1340  Other / Meta / Re: Users of Bitcoin Core on Linux must not upgrade to the latest version of OpenSSL on: January 11, 2015, 03:34:02 PM
But if you create as SSH tunnel to a trusted machine (a home server, for example) and point your browser (or other software like bitcoind) to your local proxy tunnel, you are already encrypting all and no compromised DNS servers, isn't that right?
Or does the DNS spoof takes place earlier the tunneling?

There is real threat that your DNS may take place earlier than any tunneling. To be sure, use this test: https://dnsleaktest.com/

edit: I don't know the specifics of SSH tunneling but with VPN it is a threat.
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