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1341  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Operation Shitcoin Cleanout and Clean Up Has Begun- Join the Revolution- Re-open on: August 07, 2015, 06:36:42 AM
1 - Make Exchanges Regulated - I blame them 101% for listing all these scams because they're greedy and playing big role in it
2 - If Altcoin isn't over 6-12 months old they shouldn't be on any EXCHANGE. Once they've proven that they deserve to be listed on an exchange only then they should be listed.
3 - For first six months Dev needs to set up their own website on their server and allow people to buy their altcoin with Fiat NOT BTC. Every scam that enters hurt BTC price because people swap their BTC for these shitcoins and then scammer sells all those Bitcoins for Fiat.
4 - Once Dev is delivering and project is moving upward it can be listed on an exchange where it can have pleasure to be traded with Big Boss (BTC).
1342  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is wealth boring? on: August 06, 2015, 03:50:49 PM
I mean, if you have a lot of capital, the amount of existential press diminishes, right? So you are fully entitled to sit in a meadow and meditate though the rest of your life. What else would you want to do?

I would open a spiritual newage healing clinic if I wanted to do something more.

Money can't buy anything besides power, material things. I think it is kind of boring but it can make life more fun for sure.


Things that you own end up owning you.
1343  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I've been scammed 5.5BTC. What will you do when your Bitcoin get scammed? on: August 06, 2015, 03:47:35 PM
Hello buddies,

It would be sad story if our bitcoin get scammed.  Cry

But it does happen from time to times, as we are all human beings, we are kind of greedy, we all want more bitcoins, and we all want the bitcoin in our wallet growing and growing ...

Then, we may get scammed by some online games, get scammed by gambling, get scammed by some investment programs, get scammed by ponzi schemes...etc., we send them our bitcoin base on their promising promises, but after the payment we'll never get their delivery as return ...  and we may even get scammed by our best friends as well ...

I've been scammed by a ponzi program called Rockwell Partner, I was scammed 5.5 BTC there.
I could do nothing expect shouting everywhere it was a scammer.

What did you do to fight against the scammers when your bitcoin was scammed?

I cried till I fell asleep. Forgot about it next day.

life goes on

1344  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Bitcoin becomes 100% unregulated in Japan!!! on: August 06, 2015, 03:44:54 PM
http://www.coindesk.com/tokyo-court-bitcoin-not-subject-to-ownership-2/

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Judge Masumi Kurachi ruled that, due to their intangible nature and reliance on third parties, bitcoins cannot be covered under existing law.

This is quite awesome. Set up exchanges, set up payment processors, set up whatever you want with Bitcoin in Japan. It is not covered under the law.

Soon world will follow Japan.
1345  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [FJC] FujiCoin 2.0 | Japan | Launched June 2014 | Bleutrade - C-Cex on: August 06, 2015, 03:26:18 PM
Good job dev
1346  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake on: August 06, 2015, 03:24:35 PM
price going up  Smiley
1347  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DOGED][POD] DogeCoinDark [POW][Scrypt][privacy/security - hides users ip] on: August 06, 2015, 03:22:57 PM
Looks good. I bought some at 4 sat.
1348  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: •*´¨`*•.¸¸.•*´¨`*•.¸¸.•*´¨`*•.¸¸.• MOIN TAKEOVER •.¸¸.•*´¨`*•.¸¸.•*´¨`*•.¸¸.• on: August 06, 2015, 03:21:44 PM
holding some moin from last time.
1349  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What's happening with Namecoin? on: August 06, 2015, 09:05:11 AM
It still holds 13th position in coinmarketcap
1350  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it true? Bitcoin Isn't a Currency but a Technology? on: August 06, 2015, 08:26:05 AM
Blockchain is a technology and I think that's what government/companies are interested in.

Bitcoin is a currency. It fits all the definition of one

buy things with bitcoin
trade with bitcoin
sell it for fiat

etc etc

1351  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Overstock CEO Uses Bitcoin Tech to Spill Wall Street Secret on: August 06, 2015, 08:16:37 AM
THE GLOBAL STOCK market spans about $101 trillion in financial securities. And at any given moment, about $1.7 trillion is out on loan.

Hedge funds, mutual funds, and other traders don’t just buy and sell stock. They borrow it. Sometimes, they’re looking to short sell: If they borrow shares, sell them, and the price goes down, they reap a profit. Other times, they borrow as a way of hedging their stock positions or settling other deals. In the US alone, according to research from DataLend, about $954 billion in securities is typically on loan to some fund or another.

Many players benefit from this little-discussed market. Sure, the borrowers can make some extra money. But the same goes for those who lend the securities out, including retirement funds and other large stock holders. They charge a fee for that loaned stock. And, yes, middlemen take a cut too, including prime brokers such as Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley and dedicated lending houses, or “agent lenders,” like BNY Melon and State Street. The agent lenders alone make about $19.2 million a day helping organizations lend out their stock, and the prime brokers likely make even more.

It’s an enormously lucrative market. And it’s a market controlled by a relatively small group of players, most notably the prime brokers. “Securities lending has historically been a closed network,” says Josh Galper, who runs a financial consulting firm, Finadium, that closely tracks stock loans. “In order to lend or borrow securities, you need to be one of the players in this market.”

Patrick Byrne, the iconoclastic CEO of e-commerce site Overstock.com and an unwavering voice for reform on Wall Street, wants to bust this market open. Using technology based on the blockchain—the technology that underpins the bitcoin digital currency—he wants to move the stock-loan market onto the Internet and put it in the hands of, well, everyone. He wants to break the hold of the agent lenders and prime brokers, arguing that, as it stands, they make untold amounts of money from the loan market without giving stock holders their proper share. “We’re taking a market that’s in the dark,” Byrne says, “and we’re putting it on an exchange.”

The Dark Arts
On Tuesday evening, at a cocktail party held inside the Nasdaq stock exchange, Byrne unveiled his bitcoin-inspired stock-loan system under the aegis of an Overstock subsidiary called TØ.com. TØ.com has also used the blockchain to create an online system that can replace the primary stock markets, such as the New York Stock Exchange and the Nasdaq. On Tuesday, Byrne unveiled this system too, saying it was on the verge of receiving approval from the SEC. But the world knew that was coming. The stock loan system was an unexpected reveal. The irrepressible Byrne wants to reform the financial markets in more ways than one.

In both cases, Byrne and TØ aim to remove the dark arts out of the financial markets, to put them online in a way that all transactions can be carefully verified, to ensure we always know who holds a given share, to limit the role of Wall Street middle men. The blockchain is essentially a massive online ledger, driven by a vast network of independent machines. With bitcoin, this ledger puts the money system in the hands of the people, limiting the role of big government and big banks. Now, Byrne wants to do the same for the financial markets.

Some question whether Byrne is in a position to change these markets—no matter how powerful his technology. But separate from his efforts, Wall Street is waking up the notion that the blockchain can streamline our financial markets. This spring, Nasdaq itself announced that it will use the blockchain to drive a private stock market, and two other outfits, Digital Asset Holdings and Symbiont, are developing their own blockchain-based systems for the securities trading.

‘Pre-Borrow Assurance Tokens’
But Byrne’s stock loan system is unique. Based on blockchain-like technology from a startup called Peer Nova, it will allow pension funds and other stock holders to lend shares directly to hedge funds and other traders, essentially removing middlemen such as agent lenders and prime brokers from the process.

The setup is relatively simple. Stock holders will attach bitcoin-like digital tokens to each share of stock. Hedge funds and other traders will bid for the right to borrow shares. And then, thanks to the tokens, known as “Pre-Borrow Assurance Tokens,” or PATs, stock holders can closely track each transaction involving their loaned stock.

The system is an outgrowth of Byrne’s well-documented experiences on Wall Street. A decade ago, Overstock was the victim of what’s called naked short selling, where traders exploit a loophole in the system to short sell stock without actually borrowing it—a practice that can drive down a stock’s value. After the financial crash of 2008, the SEC moved to close this loophole. But with his blockchain-based systems, Byrne wants to ensure this kind of thing is eradicated entirely—in addition to streamlining the stock loan system as a whole.

Risk Versus Reward
Galper calls the system interesting, though he questions whether the existing players will end up using it. “As with any closed system, the greatest beneficiaries of that system are the biggest participants,” he says. “Would the largest borrowers and lenders be keen to move to a new system and to provide more equal access to borrowers and lenders? I don’t believe so.”

What’s more, he explains, lenders are happy with the existing system because the agent lenders (typically large banks) provide what’s called “counter-party default indemnification.” This amounts to insurance for the shares sent out on loan. With TØ’s system, lenders must have a similar assurance that when they loan their stock, they’ll get it back.

“This is a question of risk versus reward,” Galper says. If you’re willing to take additional risk by lending directly to a hedge fund, then you’re going to get greater reward. On the other hand, it is your responsibility to monitor that hedge fund, to insure that it is a good credit risk, that it pays on time, and that you get your stock back at the end of the transaction.”

According to Byrne, TØ.com does have ways of limiting counterparty risk. Initially, he says, lenders can use these system while keeping their shares with a large prime broker, such as Goldman Sachs, who can continue to provide default indemnification as always. So, the prime brokers will remain part of the process, but they may not benefit nearly as much as they did in the past.

The New Middleman
On the other side of the equation, Galper believes, smaller hedge funds may be keen to use TØ’s system. After all, it will allow them to borrow shares at a cheaper rate. “The smaller a hedge fund you are, the more incentive you have to look for alternatives. If you have an opportunity to eliminate your middleman, then you can lower your price for borrowing.”

Yes, Byrne and TØ.com are now Wall Street middlemen. But Byrne insists that they will charge lower rates than the incumbents, because their technology takes so much fat out of the market. And the larger point, he says, is this new system can give the market the transparency is has never had.

Even if the system fails to replace the existing players, he says, it can push Wall Street in the same direction. On Tuesday evening, his primary message was that he’s willing to share this technology with others. “We’ve shown the world what we have,” he says, “and now I’m willing to listen to anyone who wants to talk.”

1352  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Surfing waves on: August 05, 2015, 03:44:29 PM
Altcoin marketcap has halved compare to 2014. Investors are running away from it.


To answer your question. It's mostly luck at this point. I would suggest stick with old coins and don't invest over 1% in new coins..if you catch the wave good if not it wouldn't matter much.

Normally when I'm trading with new altcoins..I keep an eye on buy orders..if they're big that means someone is still pumping with fake buy orders once they start going thin I sell right away and move onto next altcoin.
1353  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Idea for how to kill the sh*t/clone/scamcoin industry on: August 05, 2015, 10:36:30 AM
We can create petition and ask top exchanges to stop listing scams without doing proper research and if scam gets listed it should provide an option to report it to proper authority (with proof offcourse) so they can investigate.


Scams go away when they have nowhere to get listed.


1354  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [GLOBE] GLOBAL TAKEOVER [NEW CHAIN] [NEW POW/POS] [CERIUM] on: August 05, 2015, 10:20:05 AM
Work on one coin and make it useful rather than trying to maintain a bunch of worthless ones.

This.

OP probably bought at 25 sat and now trying to take over so he can pump and dump.

Create a new coin. Let this shit die the way it's meant to be so investors can see it as a proof of scam dev (dibbits, diggits, ibits, globe) and don't invest in his future coins.

There are lot of other coins which weren't scam but Dev left for some reason. Try them instead of this Globe shit. There is already Globalcoin by mudda..this is even more confusing and people have already labeled Globe as scam..once a scam always a scam..can't change that.

Cerium has its own roadmap which is being carried out, if we didnt thave the resources then we wouldnt be making the effort to save coins. Also anything we develop will be used in cerium too personally i see it as a win win.

Theres been at least 4 other coins in this vein of scam, you could argue that grid was too and a few others. If people are still getting burned after four "proof of scams" as you say then i dont think its entirely peoples faults. People are still buying in so we should be trying to combat and protect the community in another way.

People are welcome to suggest future coins for this initiative but globe was very high profile and had one of the worst crashes leaving a lot of people with bags, i dont think its fair to leave anyone with bags of worthless coins and no chance trade thier way out of it. we are simply providing a stable coin again.



People who bought it without doing research deserved to get burned. No one bought it because of roadmap they bought it because Dev was pumping it. Let it be there lesson instead of trying to protect them for something they should've stayed away from in first place.

Create new altcoin instead you'll get more people interested unless you just want to stay with old investors who're looking to get rid of their bags as soon as price pumps above 100 sat.

I'm telling you right now..you'll be shooting yourself in foot by taking over Globe. Offcourse it's upto you and this is just a suggestion.

good luck.

1355  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [GLOBE] GLOBAL TAKEOVER [NEW CHAIN] [NEW POW/POS] [CERIUM] on: August 05, 2015, 09:17:51 AM
Work on one coin and make it useful rather than trying to maintain a bunch of worthless ones.

This.

OP probably bought at 25 sat and now trying to take over so he can pump and dump.

Create a new coin. Let this shit die the way it's meant to be so investors can see it as a proof of scam dev (dibbits, diggits, ibits, globe) and don't invest in his future coins.

There are lot of other coins which weren't scam but Dev left for some reason. Try them instead of this Globe shit. There is already Globalcoin by mudda..this is even more confusing and people have already labeled Globe as scam..once a scam always a scam..can't change that.
1356  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Any chance we can get some subforums? on: August 05, 2015, 08:00:14 AM
I think it's better that all the shit is left in one pile than spreading it everywhere.
1357  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [HIFUN] SatoshiFun [SCRYPT] 1 Satoshi fun | You can only go higher! on: August 05, 2015, 07:50:49 AM
still don't see it on trex
1358  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]~GenesysCoin~Test in Wallet Games Play[Crowdfund Today ESCROW Ends 8/12] on: August 05, 2015, 05:57:29 AM
Cool need ICO! start

Ok promising project

It would be incredible if you guys can get the gambling aspect into this wallet. closed contracts on Win or Lose.
If that succeed this coin is going to another LVL

Imagine not only the person or team putting money in but what about spectators! " FANS" !! FAKK SHITTTTT I love this

This!

Good work Dev! I'm sure people will be more confident investing in ICO after checking out wallet and see it's the real deal.

Gambling aspect can REALLY help wallet and this project. I hope you integrate it in the wallet once ICO is over. It'll attract lot of users.
1359  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Altcoin With Smartphone Mining on: August 04, 2015, 05:59:24 PM
I think it was closed source.



This. I think Dev was pretty smart in doing that. It's unique concept and take crypto to whole another new level. I started mining in December and now I have around 1500 altogether..I think price is around 0.0003 and it'll go higher since mining big amount is nearly impossible.

For those who don't know how mining works with Mangocoinz: You shake your phone to mine or just install it on your phone and go for a run. It doesn't consume battery or damage phone. It's not even same thing as mining with cpu or gpu (where you can damage your computer after a while)
1360  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [DASH/XDN/XMR/SDC] Comparison between the most known anonymous coins (MUST READ) on: August 04, 2015, 05:24:22 PM
that's a decent comparison

lol@ people bashing dash
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