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141  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you achieved anything from gambling on: May 10, 2024, 04:08:48 PM
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Lastly , i Dont know If you have achieved anything from gambling or you have same perception like my colleaques But for me i have achieved something reasonable and tangible from gambling , So please friends let me see your opinions on this .
I personally have not gained anything from gambling and I also don't really expect anything from gambling because I realize that gambling is just to entertain ourselves in our spare time, so if we hope to achieve something in gambling, we will most likely be willing to spend a lot of money to always place bets, if only we are lucky after spending a lot of money and can get what we hope for, but if that doesn't happen then we will regret losing the money we have because of chasing. something uncertain in gambling.

I think I can slightly conclude that you are one of the gamblers who knows about how gambling actually is so that you think that gambling is a place to find entertainment which you also do the same thing by making gambling a place to find entertainment when you are in your spare time with boredom and not to make money. And I agree with you that if we are too hopeful about winning in gambling actually the opposite will happen in the sense that instead of making a lot of winnings but what happens instead you experience more losses, and maybe I would also say that by having the intention and purpose to earn then actually it is an idea that will ultimately lead you to more regret and disappointment, Because after all gambling will not always go your way, and this is the reason why a gambler is only allowed to bet small amounts without excessive expectations of winning, which indirectly this approach will make it easier for you to account for the decisions you made at the beginning when it turns out that at the end of the session you lose.
142  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction causes loss on: May 10, 2024, 03:42:40 PM
My advice for a gamble addict is to never repeat a bet more and more after several losses because the probability of winning might not come from several trial.Morever gambling being an addict is so weird as most people go extra mile to use 100% of their income to gamble that's a risky game, gambling is meant for fun and not an addiction,but you know what,when it's played with the intention of making huge profit it then becomes an addiction.My advice to your friend is he should get himself a therapist that would enlighten him more on gambling.

Anyone who uses 100% of their income for gambling is either an irresponsible gambler or a newbie who has the wrong idea about gambling.

I knew several people who gambled this way and they all eventually stopped playing for all the money and this is quite logical. I would not recommend spending more than 10% of your income on gambling, or finding some kind of part-time job, the income from which you can lose without regret.

Well I agree with that and maybe overall we can conclude that if they dare to allocate 100% of their income to gambling then it is gamblers who come and make decisions without the correct understanding and knowledge of how gambling really is, and most likely all they know is "gambling can multiply their money" which is a pretty strong reason why they dare to allocate all their income to gambling.

However, if you know and understand the real facts about gambling then I'm sure you'll agree with some of the ideas that advise gamblers to take a lot of precautions and you'll also always advise others not to gamble large sums of money, let alone 100% of their income, because after all, this is a foolish approach which means you're wasting money and donating your hard-earned money to the casino. It's a fact that no one likes to lose, but gambling can never be a place to earn because of the risk that can never be tolerated, and risking large budgets in gambling will only lead you to more significant regrets.
143  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you won a bet with your last cash? on: May 10, 2024, 03:22:09 PM
I cannot remember when I risked or bet my last cash. I am always used to betting only the money that I can afford to lose. Maybe I am used to it because since college I am far from my family. I have a weekly or monthly allowance so I am always bringing cash that is good for more than a day. So I was responsible enough not to bet more than my allocated budget.

It's a different story online though. It happened to me many times that my last casino balance won and it saved me from cashing in again. For OP's case, I think the last cash that should've been used for transportation going home was being used. Not cool mate and do not do it again.
Even if it is spare cash you can afford to lose, gambling every single dollar you had on you is not really the best idea, since you never really know what it may happen during your commute home and you may need the extra cash to pay for something, besides by keeping even a small amount of cash around and not gamble to your last dollar you are proving yourself you are in complete control of your gambling, something that in my opinion we need to test from time to time as a way to ensure that everything is fine.

I think the idea of risking your last dollar in gambling is a ridiculous idea, why? obviously it will only lead to more significant disappointment at the end of the session when things don't go your way, and I'm sure that one of the reasons that people bet their last bit of money is because they think that the last bit of money could bring them a fortune that could double their money, when obviously casinos will never care about things like that, The casino will not care about whether it is your last money or not, and the point is that if you risk any money in gambling then obviously defeat will always be a definite possibility, and also I will remind you that whatever money you use to gamble will in no way affect or change the outcome of the gambling or that means it will not be able to guarantee your victory.

So obviously the point is to be wise in terms of making decisions, if for example it is the last money you have then obviously it is better to use the money very wisely, such as using it to buy more important needs or whatever it is rather than gambling.
144  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling mistake repeated by the gamblers on: May 10, 2024, 02:58:13 PM

I think it's clear that it's typical of people who can't ignore the greed in them that even though for example they have managed to achieve the victory they want but in the end they still want a much bigger amount of victory by continuing the session sometimes by betting a much bigger amount to pursue a more significant victory. And I would say that greed will never end because this mindset involves desire which as we know in real life when someone has succeeded in realizing their desires then they will again want something bigger when they see that other people have it. And I would also say that this is a typical gambler who simply does not understand and does not know about how gambling really is which is not only about the chances of winning but also the risk of losing will always be a part of gambling, but they only see from one side only, namely "the opportunity to multiply".

Who would get satisfied with winning money. Its a vital technique that operates the minds of players to continually repeat same mistakes. Once a human posses an amount of money, its value depreciates. He would go for more. It's a feeling that explains why people get greedy. Hence, players definitely will battle with the mental trap of winning bigger money. Because the funds will end the moment a player tries to win bigger than he's won. Developing such confidence ruins the happiness of the player in a few more minutes.

At same time admits the player to chase losses. Gambling is an emotional game. Gamblers who are not emotionally under control will get conned by the different stages of emotional technique of holding a player's interest in regaining his lost money. Casinos have designed these methods to earn multiple profits from gamblers. These stages are closely thought out to make a player forget about losing and focus on winning more than his previous games and, same time, gain again, the exact amount won previously, which sponsored the losing chase.

Yes, which is added because all humans who live will always want and need money to be able to realize something they need or what they want, so when someone finds a place that can give them some money then they will stay there to put hope even though it is actually a place that does not make sense to be used as a place to make money, because after all gambling does not have an element of consistency to always be able to produce and all that is because there is no guarantee and certainty to always be able to win.

In the end, there are always only a few people who really understand how gambling really is which makes them not excessive in treating their gambling activities which knowledge will be able to make them more awake and avoid various bad possibilities in the long run as long as they can still maintain a correct understanding of the concept of gambling. However it is a fact that gambling is a game of probability which refers to one of two possibilities at the end of the session which is either winning or losing, there is no guarantee of always being able to win but losing will always be a definite possibility, and I also agree with what you said that gambling is an emotional game which requires you to always be able to control yourself and emotions if you are not going to experience various undesirable things.
145  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you gamble because you don't have sufficient money? on: May 10, 2024, 02:18:58 PM
This means that rich people only see gambling as a place of entertainment to fill their spare time when they feel bored in the midst of their busy lives. Wink
That's true. They have money to gamble and it won't bother them if they go in a losing streak. While those that have just enough or don't do good with their living.

One lose and they're going to have an headache already. That's the reason why we tell everyone to gamble what they can afford to lose.

Because the rich are gambling because of boredom and they don't have to aim for the wins, they let the casino win and they are not emotional when they lose.

This is the difference in perspective between the poor and the rich, and if the rich have the mindset of the poor then I honestly don't believe that they will succeed in becoming rich, which means that the wealth that they have managed to get is because they have thinking skills that the poor do not have. Rich people engage in gambling because they feel financially capable and also have a certain amount of money that they can really afford to lose in exchange for entertainment, and one of the reasons why I strongly believe that it is unlikely for rich people to make gambling as a place to earn is because as I said above that they have different skills in how to think, usually they will only take opportunities if they really look reasonable to earn, while gambling runs full of uncertainty.

And this is why we always recommend not to overdo gambling, not least because it is unreasonable to put hope and faith in something that runs with great uncertainty in terms of generating winnings, but it is a fact that it is very difficult to advise poor people who try to use gambling as a place to change their fortunes, their hallucinations have gone too far to think that gambling can be used as a place to multiply their money and the reason may be because they have a stressful situation due to the financial problems they have in their lives.

Lastly I would say that there is no significant income with little effort. Wink
146  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do people lose in gambling and still go ahead and bet more? on: May 10, 2024, 01:58:32 PM
No matter how careful you are, you will always lose sometimes because gambling is such a game that sometimes you lose sometimes you win. That one lose does not mean he should stop gambling because there is no way to completely avoid losses and that does not imply that gambling is not profitable. People are making a living off gambling, you just have to figure out a way to remain profitable and also hope for luck that makes the process easier. So, people will continue to lose but if you don't give up, you will win and make decent profit. If you are gambling in such a way that one loss will force you out of gambling, then you are not managing your risk properly.

Obviously, because after all defeat will always be a part that will never be separated in gambling, no matter if for example you are very careful but still the name of defeat will always be a sure thing, and this is why we are always advised to only bet small amounts in gambling which is because the possibility of defeat will always lurk until whenever but with you only betting small amounts then when you lose you will not feel too emotional because you only lose a small amount.

Haha on the other hand I am quite confused about the opinion that you conveyed above my friend, you told me that defeat can never be avoided in gambling but on the other hand you also said something that seemed to encourage and motivate gamblers to keep gambling by telling them to find ways to be able to bring more wins, and I will tell you that whatever method you use in gambling actually all of it will not really affect the results at the end of the session, I will tell you that no matter what method you use in gambling, it will never be able to guarantee victory because only luck can really make someone win while on the other hand anyone can never control luck, and this is why victory is always unknown when it comes, and you also have to understand that there are no long-term benefits in gambling, meaning that you cannot advise someone not to give up because gambling is not something that has any certainty in terms of winning. And another thing from what you said about winning in gambling I see that you are not a gambler.
147  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What are the main points of gambling? on: May 10, 2024, 01:32:50 PM
The main point of gambling is for fun.

If someone gamble for money and become an addict, blame the gambler, not the gambling. No one force to gamble, if someone don't get the fun while and after gambling, they can stop including completely avoid it.

It just dumb someone continue to gamble in order to earn while the reality they're in loss.
Yes, definitely for fun and excitement, and getting profitable in gambling will fall as a bonus. But I think beginner gamblers have misinterpreted this. Instead, they are motivated to engage in gambling because they want to win big amount, which is only seldom to happen, because obviously gambling ends up with a lot of losses. However, if you gamble irresponsibly, that’s your problem anymore. The point of gambling is just to have fun, but not to get addicted with it.

Exactly, I agree with your opinion here that most gamblers, especially beginners, have misunderstood what winning in gambling means, and I have discussed this several times on several other pages that many gamblers misunderstand winning in gambling where they usually think that winning is something that can be used as income as we often hear from some gamblers who have entered and trapped in a cycle of addiction.

In the end, it is clear that this is the wrong mindset in responding to gambling and I am sure that someone who thinks that winning in gambling can be used as income is those who do not have a correct understanding of how gambling really is, they only see from one side only in terms of "chances of winning" but do not pay attention to other facts that the possibility of defeat will always be a part of gambling that can never be separated. In the end, from several cases that have occurred, instead of earning, they have suffered a lot of losses and all of this will be experienced when you are too excessive in treating gambling due to having the belief that gambling can be used as a place to earn. However, it is always recommended to make gambling an entertainment activity, because by having the intention only to seek entertainment, it is less likely for you to overdo it, and the point is that it is not recommended to put excessive expectations on winning and if you manage to win one of the wins then consider it a bonus for the game you have played.
148  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it proper for younger ones to gamble? on: May 10, 2024, 01:08:00 PM
Some countries already have strict rule with respect to young people involving in gambling as illegal, but sincerely i also agree with them cause young people might not have developed good self control to be able to keep themselves from getting addicted to gambling.

Have you seen what pornographic contents do to underage children, they result to maturation and that is bad and those habits take a lot of time to fix even in adult hood, so it's best they stay off it.

For young people who are still underage such as under the age of 18 then yes usually casinos prohibit them from getting involved, which is one of the reasons why casinos apply KYC, namely to avoid some minors from getting involved, and other reasons yes as you said that someone who is still underage usually has an undirected, immature mindset and cannot make rational considerations for making decisions which indirectly usually their mindset leads them to the potential for greater disaster possibilities, plus they cannot control themselves.

If we talk about the impact, it is clear that if young people who are still underage are involved in gambling, it can threaten their future because they still have an unstable mindset and cannot make careful considerations in terms of each time they make a conclusion, but sometimes I quite often see some casinos that operate without involving the KYC system in it which makes anyone can be involved in gambling including minors, and I think for this problem, the rest is the duty of parents to be more vigilant in protecting their children from reaching gambling.
149  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If we lose in gambling, what do we need to do? on: May 10, 2024, 12:17:09 PM
Yups, it means that it is more advisable to find and cure the cause and not cure the disease which is simply as I said above that if a gambler wants to make it easy in terms of implementing various precautions along with having the ability to control himself and his emotions then obviously everything will be easily done if from the beginning you understand about how gambling really is, In the event that you have a good understanding of how gambling works, it is less likely that you will have misconceptions about gambling, because in some cases I have seen a lot of gamblers who think that gambling is a place to make money and I will say that putting hope in a place that has absolutely no certainty and guarantee is an unreasonable idea and belief, which in addition to gambling has a possible risk of loss that can occur at any time that will make you lose money.

A person who has a correct and precise understanding of how gambling is they will not dare to act rashly in terms of making decisions and usually they only bet small amounts with the intention and purpose just to fill boring leisure time or just to find fun.
That is why it is better for players to first study many points before making crazy bets, I think the most important of them is how and on what things the casino makes money, because the most important thing lies on the surface. This is what the casino makes from players who cover operating costs and make a profit. Players seem to miss this moment and think that only they will make money, while others will lose, it’s just ridiculous to think like that. I will add that today I saw the news how in my country a girl at work stole a huge amount to place a bet, but lost everything, now her life is almost broken, she needs to pay off her debts. We need to be smarter and not do those things for which we will have to pay for the rest of our lives.

Yes, especially for beginners who have just come, however as you said that it is really advisable to first understand how gambling really is, because in any case when you understand this then usually you can make a decision that is in accordance with your abilities, or that means when you understand that gambling is not only a matter of winning opportunities but also the possibility of losing then I think you will not be rash in every decision because I'm sure everyone doesn't like the name losing money.

Therefore this is why we always recommend to treat gambling in moderation, because after all the idea of earning in gambling will never work, because the possibility of losing can never be avoided completely and will continue to lurk you during your session and also casinos always make gamblers who act excessively as their target to seek more profit from the number of gamblers who act excessively and this is also the reason why when we gamble too often then usually the number of losses is even greater. And I'm sorry to hear about the girl who stole money just to gamble, and we can see that she lost, which means that no matter how much money you bet and where you get it from if luck is not on your side then in the end it is clear that you will have the same fate as the girl.
150  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you care about what people say about you gambling? on: May 10, 2024, 11:54:57 AM
Not all criticism are bad, some can actually be constructive

That might be the only reason I would pay little attention to what people say about me gambling. Doubt that I will accept any suggestion from them, as I never asked for that. But I will simply collect the information they give to make a conclusion how to avoid such talks in future. To find that one point in our conversation, that has moved it into talking about my gambling experience. To know where and when to navigate conversation in future from gambling topic to something else.

On the other hand, I admit that hearing criticism from other people is really unpleasant, especially if their comments are not in accordance with the facts, but I think there is nothing wrong with listening to their comments, criticism or suggestions occasionally because they might give something that does lead to our own good, such as suggesting to apply a lot of restrictions, reminding not to gamble too often or other things. and I also do this with the aim of filtering some of the comments that come in for consideration, or that means if there are some comments that contain a sense of concern for ourselves then usually I will consider it and then think and finally follow it, And I also do this in order to filter out some of the comments that come in for consideration, or I mean if for example there are some comments that contain a sense of concern for us then usually I will consider it and then think and ultimately follow what they suggest, but if for example their comments only contain ridicule or even insults then usually I just let it go.
151  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling mistake repeated by the gamblers on: May 09, 2024, 08:50:09 PM

Everyone dreams of winning more. there more greedy people are in gambling, the more dangerous they are. Greed and emotion push people into risky investments, including gambling. If someone bet $0.2 and win 10x he will get $2 but our emotions won't accept it our greed will push us to bet $20 as if we win $200 but we never think that these are losses.  If we do we lose $20 instantly. this is our main problem. So our main focus should be controlling our emotions and greed
It's like an inbuilt virus that runs through the veins of almost every human on earth and that's why it's very hard to be content sometimes with the winning that we have already gotten from gambling, instead the idea of doubling the first actual amount you intended in Winning to even bigger amounts. Sometimes the plan to win little amount will be the goal but the moment we achieve that the plan gets bigger again.

I think it's clear that it's typical of people who can't ignore the greed in them that even though for example they have managed to achieve the victory they want but in the end they still want a much bigger amount of victory by continuing the session sometimes by betting a much bigger amount to pursue a more significant victory. And I would say that greed will never end because this mindset involves desire which as we know in real life when someone has succeeded in realizing their desires then they will again want something bigger when they see that other people have it. And I would also say that this is a typical gambler who simply does not understand and does not know about how gambling really is which is not only about the chances of winning but also the risk of losing will always be a part of gambling, but they only see from one side only, namely "the opportunity to multiply".
152  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you gamble because you don't have sufficient money? on: May 09, 2024, 08:29:21 PM
First how do you take gambling as? Some people take gambling as a fun and entertaining to them, why some people take gambling as a mins of earning money while you stake your's. The major part if you're among of the ones that gambles cause you want to earn from it, then you are actually gambling cause you're running out of money.

But for me I gamble cause it feels like fun and exciting to me betting on my club, so I don't bother much if I lose cause I'm not gambling to earn for a living. I know how some countries are battling cause of their economy and their financial stability, it makes people go in more into gamblings it seems like their mins of living with the economy.

So I won't blame people who gambles cause they don't have sufficient money, I rather blame their country and economy but if gambling is your hobby then you are also gambling for an sufficient money.

yes, I could bet that probably the ones that approach gambling trying to "make it" or change their lives for much better are the ones that don't have a lot of money to start with...
I could be wrong but if someone is rich and has the skills to stay rich they won't see gambling as their main source of income and all...

what do you all think?

Yes I am quite sure and believe with your opinion here that people who eventually dedicate themselves to engage in gambling with the intention of making a lot of winnings are those who have a bad financial situation in their lives, they think that gambling can improve their lives or even they think that gambling can turn them into rich people, although the idea can never be justified by common sense but this is what most likely can happen when someone is experiencing financial pressure in his life which is possible for them to justify any means just to make money even if the method does not make sense.

This is also the reason why I don't believe that rich people make gambling a place to earn, because usually rich people have a rational mindset in every response and respond to everything before finally making a decision which is the skill they have that indirectly brings them to become rich people, and also usually rich people always calculate everything by looking at various sides where if there is no reasonable profit potential then they will not do it, and this is why I believe that it is unlikely that rich people make gambling a place to earn because after all there is always no guarantee and certainty to always be able to make a profit.

This means that rich people only see gambling as a place of entertainment to fill their spare time when they feel bored in the midst of their busy lives. Wink
153  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do people lose in gambling and still go ahead and bet more? on: May 09, 2024, 08:09:28 PM
Many where gambling not because they wanted to make money from gambling, but because they are more interested in having fun through it, they had prefer to spend their time and money gambling and this alone is a great achievement on them without minding if they win  bet or not, such continuation is not because they are doing so to get addicted to gambling, but because they wanted to achieve their maximum goal with having fun.

Yes that may be true, but I think if we compare about whether gambling is more of a place to seek entertainment or a place to seek income I think most of the more gamblers make gambling a place to earn, Although I do not have statistical data that can prove it, from the many cases of downturns that I have found about the number of gamblers who have experienced downturns, I can confirm that more gamblers make gambling a place to earn than just for fun, because logically if for example what they want is only entertainment, it is unlikely that they really want to exchange money just for entertainment, meaning that there is something they are after, namely victory.

But on the other hand yes I also admit that there are some gamblers who do make gambling for fun but I don't really know about whether they have a reasonable reason to be used as a defense or not, but whatever your intentions and goals come to gambling, however it is always recommended to apply caution and vigilance.
154  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What are the main points of gambling? on: May 09, 2024, 07:49:09 PM
Gambling thus requires three elements to be present: consideration
 (an amount wagered), risk (chance), and a prize.

I noticed that people now don't actually know their main points of them gambling, some people gamble to earn daily and some people just gamble cause they saw their friends won in gambling. That's how they develop their gambling lifestyle and from their they get addicted to it. I've over heard people complaining about them losses, for me I think they don't know the main points of gambling. What do you think about this people losses much? Does it mean they don't know the main points of gambling?

Previously I have often said on several other pages that one of the reasons why someone experiences bad effects in gambling such as experiencing many problems whether it is getting into debt or experiencing destruction in their family relationships due to a weakening economy, all of that begins because they misunderstand or do not know about how gambling really is, they do not know the main points that should be more concerned about such as the consequences of possible risks that can occur at any time which can eliminate their money in a short time.

I see most gamblers, especially those newbies who just came, they see gambling only from one side, namely in terms of opportunities to win but they don't think about what if they lose, because after all, the name of defeat will always be a part that can never be separated in gambling. Gambling is always about the chances of winning and the possibility of losing but the mistake of most gamblers is that they only see in terms of opportunities to "multiply" their money but do not pay attention that they can also lose money. Because on the other hand I am sure that if you know about the concept of gambling then you will not dare to act recklessly such as risking large sums or planning a lot of time to engage in gambling or whatever it is that leads to excessive action, and the point is that someone who knows about how gambling is actually they will definitely be more concerned with risk management than pursuing something that has no certainty and guarantee of winning.
155  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it proper for younger ones to gamble? on: May 09, 2024, 07:28:38 PM
In this situation, the responsable who let these children enter that place must be blamed. Not only is gambling forbidden to the children, but the risks go beyond that and reach their lives. They are not in the right place to spend time and play.
I think the matter is not in your hands or in my hands. Many things have changed, and the attraction of young people to gambling is noticeable these days, as you said. I personally started gambling at a young age, and this is what I do not advise young people to do, but the matter remains in the hands of the parents in raising awareness and advice in the first place, and then Society. In our time, everyone can gamble with  fake identity  , especially on sites and online casinos, and they do not realize that the risks are great. Some may even steal from home or engage in crime... So this is absolutely wrong
Absolutely.
However IMO I think that every gamble hall should be able to have a security on the entrance of their shop/store so that not everyone can be able to go into the gambling hall. The work of the securities should be to walkout anyone that's not up to age of gambling and those that are mentally unstable. The reasons why they shouldn't allow children to enter into the gambling hall is because they are not up to age and they can't afford to lose anything in gamble and they don't have to the sense of making decisions. And the mental unstable people should not gamble because they are mentally unstable and can cause harm when they lose money.

Yes I think your method can be useful to be applied in physical casinos, but I think this method will not really work if we talk about the type of online casino which is now increasingly popular and reaching more and more people because most people especially young people prefer to spend most of their time playing the internet and I found a news that informs that there is a significant increase in terms of statistics that in the last one year the population of gamblers has increased dramatically which most of them are young people and this is quite alarming news in my country.

On the other hand I understand that casinos can implement stricter systems such as implementing KYC so that minors cannot be involved in any type of online gambling, but honestly I see only a few online casinos that implement systems like this (especially in my country) which in turn makes anyone (including minors) free to engage in any type of online gambling with easy registration, and I think this makes sense because logically gambling is a business for casinos, They will not care about the safety of minors, the point is that casinos only want more people involved in their gambling sites regardless of whether they are minors or adults, because after all the more people involved the greater the casino profits, and I think one of the actions that can be taken to prevent a child from getting involved in gambling is back to their parents, or that means parents must be able to supervise their children to avoid gambling.
156  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Rich or poor gambler, who should risk more? on: May 09, 2024, 07:08:45 PM

True, the problem is that most people are too focused on the idea of winning opportunities that exist in gambling, I understand that we live always need money to buy various basic needs but try to at least use your common sense and rational mindset before finally making a decision, because only you yourself will eventually face all the consequences and others will never care about anything you experience.

As I said earlier that most of the gamblers are those losers who want a lot of money but do not want to work and instead depend on winning in gambling, on the other hand I am not saying that you will never win but what is certain and what must be remembered is that gambling has absolutely no element of consistency in terms of producing wins, all of that will only happen by "chance" and this is why it makes no sense to make gambling a place to make a living, the saying goes that your mouth is your harima and your mindset is something that will determine your fate.
I have also heard opinions that some people think players are lazy people because they want to earn money by pressing one button and sitting in front of the monitor. Of course, most of them will be losers, but there will also be someone who can change their life for the better, and it is natural that every player before the gaming session thinks that it will be him. Many people believe in their chosenness and specialness, I would like the players to be more realistic, because they can pay very dearly for this pride.

Yes most people believe in their own beliefs or beliefs but it is a fact that not everyone generates these beliefs and beliefs by using common sense, rational points of view and the right way of thinking, so it's useless for you to boast of your own beliefs and beliefs if basically it is a wrong belief which will actually endanger yourself, and there are enough cases that we can use as evidence that someone who makes or believes in gambling as a place to earn in the end has a lot of problems in his life such as getting into a lot of debt that has the potential to destroy their lives along with damaging harmony in family relationships.

So it is always recommended to use a reasonable mindset and a rational and realistic point of view in responding or responding to everything you find, because we live in an era where there are so many things that look tempting and tantalizing at a glance when in fact it is nothing more than a trap.
157  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why the rich win gambling more than the poor. on: May 09, 2024, 06:48:12 PM
         -   Rich gamblers have a higher chance of surviving than poor gamblers, unless a poor gambler is lucky. But the rich and the poor gamblers are the same; they often lose when playing gambling.

But in reality, long-term gambling is really on the side of the rich gamblers and nothing else. We know that there is a long distance between the poor gamblers and the rich gamblers; that's just the way it is.

I think the only difference is in terms of the financial situation they have, as you said that rich gamblers have greater strength to be able to maintain their lives longer even if for example they experience defeat in gambling while poor people when they experience defeat maybe it is a big problem for them that could make them unable to buy basic necessities to continue their lives and this is a difference in situation if we talk about how the situation they will face when they experience defeat in gambling.

But if for example we talk about who will win more between the rich and the poor then obviously I can't answer that, because after all it doesn't matter whether you are rich or poor the casino doesn't differentiate, meaning that for the issue of opportunities they have the same chances of winning regardless of rich or poor and maybe the only difference is in terms of "the number of wins" and not "the frequency of winning", and other things yes maybe I quite agree with your opinion that rich people can survive in the long run in their gambling activities compared to poor people because they have an adequate financial situation.
158  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If we lose in gambling, what do we need to do? on: May 09, 2024, 06:28:06 PM

There is actually one thing that can prevent everything that can harm a gambler, which is to have a correct and precise understanding of how gambling actually is, because I think it is a fact that when someone understands and understands that gambling is not only about winning opportunities but also has the potential for losing risks, it is less likely for him to make impulsive decisions such as chasing winnings to restore something that has been lost before and also they will definitely prioritize everything that leads to preventive measures. such as putting limits on the amount of budget and putting limits on the time of involvement, all of which will always be considered and prioritized because they are worried that if they are too excessive then they will eventually lose a lot of money and end up falling into a trap, For example, putting a limit on the amount of budget and putting a limit on the time of involvement, all of that will always be considered and prioritized because they are worried that if they are too excessive then they will eventually lose a lot of money and end up falling into the addiction phase. So the bottom line is that if you want it to be easier to do some of the things that lead to preventive measures such as self-control then you will be able to have that ability if you fully understand what gambling is all about.
You're right.
That too is quite a very notable point, because it starts from knowing and believing in something, that's one of the most effective ways to fight of the ignorance and wrong perspective that majority of gamblers have already adopted and believed in their minds,.
So since it's the mind that the whole things starts from, it'll be very helpful to gamblers if they really understand the whole concept about gambling and what it's really intended to achieve, that way way they'll realize that gambling isn't really what people make it look like, its not a path to success and the more people always remember this, then it'll help them to make more informed decisions.

Yups, it means that it is more advisable to find and cure the cause and not cure the disease which is simply as I said above that if a gambler wants to make it easy in terms of implementing various precautions along with having the ability to control himself and his emotions then obviously everything will be easily done if from the beginning you understand about how gambling really is, In the event that you have a good understanding of how gambling works, it is less likely that you will have misconceptions about gambling, because in some cases I have seen a lot of gamblers who think that gambling is a place to make money and I will say that putting hope in a place that has absolutely no certainty and guarantee is an unreasonable idea and belief, which in addition to gambling has a possible risk of loss that can occur at any time that will make you lose money.

A person who has a correct and precise understanding of how gambling is they will not dare to act rashly in terms of making decisions and usually they only bet small amounts with the intention and purpose just to fill boring leisure time or just to find fun.
159  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you care about what people say about you gambling? on: May 09, 2024, 06:08:58 PM
If we take care of ourselves to gamble, we won't need to see what people are thinking. There are some gamblers who become so crazy about gambling that they are ready to do anything to gamble they are not aware of anything people say a lot about these gamblers. That's why gamblers don't have to worry about what people say if they are aware of gambling and not reckless.


As a gambler I don't need everybody's opinion about myself if they say that I am not good cause I am involve in gambling then that's Okay as long as I am happy on what ik doing then nothing wrongs about it. anyways nowadys there are many people around us that they will talk with us if we are not in thier side.  But we don't need them cause it's our choices then the outcome will be the effects of what we doing. And that's the reason why other gamblers fall into addiction cause they can't control themselves.

No need to think too much about what other people say because after all everyone has their own choices and preferences in any case, so don't get too carried away if people say something that makes you feel bad. Basically no one is perfect and everyone has their own advantages and disadvantages, if they don't like you because you are involved in gambling then let it go, as long as you don't harm others.

But maybe I will say that you must remember that this is gambling which has a level of risk that is sometimes very high which can destroy your life in a short time and we can see how the fate of gamblers who are addicted where they experience many problems and downturns in their lives due to treating gambling the wrong way, This is the reason why a gambler is always advised to apply caution and also a lot of restrictions on his gambling activities, none other than so that we can avoid various bad possibilities.
160  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much of my salary should I use to gamble on: May 09, 2024, 05:22:15 PM

Yups it's true to say that everyone has a different income in life, but no matter how big your income or how small your income is still the point is that it is advisable to put a small amount or a small percentage to be injected into gambling. If we talk about income then maybe we can see how the difference between the income of the rich and the poor where the difference must be quite significant but still if we talk about how much money should be allocated to gambling then of course it is recommended to put an amount that we can afford or an amount that will not make you feel upset or depressed if in the end you lose, in my opinion 20% is too large a percentage to inject in gambling, and usually the largest amount I bet is between 5% - 7% of my total monthly income and this allocation does not cause any problems at all to my finances.

But on the other hand I think we also have to manage other things because managing the amount of money you want to allocate is certainly not useful if you can't manage the time to gamble, or what that means is you also have to manage your gambling time, because it's useless even if you put a small amount but you gamble too often then it can still cause problems in your finances.

The amount of money that people have in their salary and want to allocate is something that is very personal, the only thing I can recommend is that a person does not allocate all their salary for gambling, because playing in a casino is always high risk and can be lose everything, if you want to play by allocating a percentage of your salary to gambling, it is something else, the person has to make a list of their expenses, including services and everything that must be covered and what they can allocate is what they think they can spend It is very difficult to say that there are times when it is not even enough to cover the basics, and for each player the economic situation is different, I would speak in a general way assigning 1%, if you can assume it, but not the rest.

If gambling had absolutely no risk of losing then obviously it would be fine if you wanted to allocate all the salary you have or even borrow from a service to fund your habit, but however gambling can never be separated from the possibility of losing because it will always be a part of gambling or losing will always be inherent in gambling and can never be eliminated. This means that at any point in time gambling will always be about winning and losing which all gamblers have the possibility of ending up in those two possibilities, simply put if you don't win then it means that you lose, therefore it really doesn't make sense to treat gambling in an excessive way such as putting most of your salary just to gamble, in the end it is clear that it is an action that will only lead you to many disasters and other things yes I agree with you that they should make a detailed list of their expenses, try to prioritize the necessities of life or whatever is far more important than gambling.
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