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1541  Economy / Gambling / Re: ADMIRALSPOT.COM | DEPOSIT 0.5 BTC PLAY WITH 1 BTC on: April 21, 2017, 12:22:15 AM
In my opinion it might ABSOLUTELY no sense to require KYC just because they want to withdraw to a different address than their deposit address. That would not prevent any type of money laundering anyways.

Its basically a tactic because they know most don't read the terms and will get away without paying other's people's winnings.
the site interface actually looks good but unfortunately the casino owner/team didn't know well about how bitcoin and a casino should work. some T&C confusing and even not makes sense for example the casino would ask for KYC whenever you want to withdraw to different bitcoin address from your previous deposit address. to verify this you could simply ask for a sign message , NOT a KYC.
I think it is a new casino that is why in the start that type of thing will come to face but with the passage of time there will be no any problem to developers as they will learn more from the feedback of the members and from their experience. By the way the developers/owners are proceeding with a well planned manner and they also have a very good signature campaign for the promotion of the site so sooner it will be the best casino of the forum with all the corrections.
i wish they heard my opinion about asking KYC for everytime you made an address changes , it's strange to do that as there's better way to make a verification like what i have stated about sign message. they should launched the site when everything has been established , so everyone could see that this casino are handed by a professional and well managed .
1542  Economy / Speculation / Re: I will not Die Untill Bitcoin will reach at Least 50K on: April 21, 2017, 12:11:25 AM
As we all know bitcoin price is being increasing yearly.  Now, it is about 1.2K.This seems to be happen to reach
50k but it will takes months/years.
Is this troll? Bitcoin will only takes years? Maybe 50 years as well bitcoin price couldn't breach the speculation price of $1300 usd dollars and then here we come talking about bitcoin price into 50,000 per coin? Hmmm this is not reall happen and im sure with that.
yeah same thing happened back in 2009 ago , where a lot of people think that the price of bitcoin wouldn't reach even for $100 , but then it's keep growing until reached $1,300 from just below $1 , guess how much price increases? yeah it was more than 13,000 percent. now you and a lot of people still thinking it's just only a dream? well it's up to you , i can do the math by the way  Grin .
1543  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. Now Accepting Ether ! on: April 20, 2017, 11:37:30 PM
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Rollercoaster ride again Start yesterday 0.51 BTC ---> 6.3 BTC --> down to 2 BTC and now up again before sleep -->  6.8 BTC .
Never had any payout issues.
gambling always work like that everytime , nice win and congratulations! by the way Directbet , are you going to update the eth vip rewards? or will keep it like that no matter what price ethereum? as for now i can see that the rewards for every 5,000 loyalty points are 20 mbtc or 1 ethereum , where currently the price of 1 ethereum = 40 mbtc  Shocked .
1544  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Where do you bet on HORSE RACING? on: April 20, 2017, 11:23:41 PM
Best site is https://www.betbtc.co/ betfair odds,no cut in prices if there are NR,iselect price below current odds will be matched with higher possible odds,you can bet only for win or lay.If you want bet on positions than direct btc,his odds are 20% below betfair odds but you can bet even with 1000 doge.Take care it is most hard time for horse racing betting,jump is over flat just begin
best luck
I bet on horses over one year,it is very good selfdevelopment training,or i know or i loss
i haven't heard long time enough about betbtc.co , are they still paying? legit so far? really hard to find a sportsbook that offering good odds for horse racing , directbet always in the poorest odds among any other bitcoin sportsbook really unfortunate. i prefer to bet on fiat sportsbook , really expecting there would be a bitcoin sportsbook that provide a competitive odds for horse racing.
1545  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is BTC for you? on: April 19, 2017, 10:35:11 PM
For me, it is a great alternative to a credit card or PayPal. I got into Bitcoin since I do not have any othet method of purchasing stuff from the internet since I do not have a credit card. I can easily earn some Bitcoins and enough for my needs (mostly for buying digital goods and steam games).
glad to hear something like this , i frequently too much see and hear about how people treat bitcoin as a source of income only . not something just like money , bitcoin should keep circulating on different merchants around the world , with that way bitcoin could spread evenly and having a long life just like fiat or even better when we are heading into technology era.
1546  Economy / Economics / Re: The Real Reason to Hold Gold And Bitcoin on: April 19, 2017, 10:27:50 PM
I believe that Bitcoin and gold is best as store of value.  They are incline to increase in price in the long run.  So to defeat the depreciation of a currency,  It is best to to buy Bitcoin or gold and hold it for a very long time.  Just for example, a $1000 worth of Bitcoin today may probably $10,000 worth after 10 years.
I think this is quite wrong for me.Bitcoin is no better and gold is best as store of value.Bitcoins price now is not stable,we all know that bitcoins enemy in the cryptocurrency world is rapid price changes,it may drop suddenly within a minute if one holder wants too.It still has a "may" term which concludes that this may happen or no.Gold is far more better than bitcoins specially at price stability .
and to me i think gold is good for holding and saving purposes, while for trading purpose bitcoin is a good option. as i have already invested my money in trading alt coin and i am really getting good profit from it.

Holding gold for a long time can definitely give us good profits in future and if you have bitcoins then better to use them in trading to make regular profits instead of simply holding them for the future as holding bitcoins will never grow the amount of your coins.

I'm not sure that gold in the future can make a good profit. For several years the price has gone down. On the contrary, bitcoin becomes more expensive with each month. Now it is more advantageous to keep bitcoin
bitcoin keep getting expensive due it's getting rare, when gold have more stable price and even have a dropped price trend recently due the supply and demands same high. bitcoin still lack of trust , common people would prefer to use and invest on gold rather than on a strange thing like bitcoin , so yeah that's why people should hold both at least for now as long as bitcoin not popular yet.
1547  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How bring referrals ? on: April 19, 2017, 10:11:28 PM
The only good way is to give your readers something real and valuable.

If you advertise a shit product, only very few people or nobody will show any interest.
If they realize that you are full of shit but only trying to get refs, they'll ignore you again.

Don't try to get everything for free, give them something first and hope to collect more in return.
aaaand please give us an example? i have only seen a good way to get a lot of referrals by do poker rakeback promo just like what xiaoxiao did here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=683727.0 , or maybe debuni promo concept like this one https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1837436.0 , it looks would effective to bring an active players i guess.
1548  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: April 19, 2017, 09:57:44 PM
I would suggest sports betting. As its more safe and roughly you can make a guess if you understand the game. You can win big amount in sports betting easily no need skill no need strategy.

It will be only safe if you are going to bet for the games that you really know. But if you don't have an idea on what you are doing it's better not to treat sports betting as the easiest way of making profit. If you want to be an easy goer with gambling then you should gamble and your capital will be coming from faucets.
Have a good knowledge out of any match not only sports betting but others too make confident to reach the winning side.  Every man has different strategy that helps him to straggle that sector.  This will help anyone continuously make money even you have interested other sector.
To make money continuously in gambling it's not that easy , nearly impossible . a lot of people agree that the toughest job in sports is to become professional gambler , a professional sports bettor. no matter how good your knowledge in sports and analysis skills to gamble in the long run to make a constant profit it would never easy. don't treat gambling as easy way to make profit , treat gamble as an option to having fun on extraordinary way.

Being a professional sports bettor / gambler is really a tough one. Actually I have a friend that is a very professional sports bettor, he can manage to win $10,000+ per bet depending on the match although he is employed, he is making easy money with sports bet. I don't know if his bets are coming from his own prediction or he does have his own.
i still can't believe if anyone could earn profit easily through gambling, nothing easy really when it comes to make money. you have to take a risk and full of calculations otherwise everything would just messed up and ended up not good. a good story about how some people who have been successful make profit always lure everyone to gamble , but they don't want to reveal how much they have lost , gambling always feel like game of arrogance.
1549  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: April 19, 2017, 09:38:30 PM
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Could you kindly redirect me to those statements so I can take a look and provide you with the detailed information.

I have no idea

It would take some time to list through all the threads I'v been in and find the reply  Cheesy
Someone just wrote that a good thing is you can invest in the bankroll and lock your funds for 24 hours so you dont' spend them in FJ

I do not think the person who mentioned it was referring directly to us, as I tried to find out more and can clarify that we do not offer such feature from our end.


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what 20% reward? i have won the easter promo prize too , not a big amount but really thankyou , loyal player always here Cheesy. that promo really get addicted by the way , wish the best for fortunejack and having a long life  Grin.
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ohhh i have missed that information, thankyou btw.

to fortunejack
i have heard that fortunejack have a plan to start to add a sportsbetting platform since last year i guess. is that plan still on the whislist ? or on the way to announced soon? , just curious if there's some update on it  Roll Eyes .
1550  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: how strong is bitcoin really? on: April 19, 2017, 09:30:43 PM
Bitcoin is built with a strong security system and is not vulnerable to hacking by hackers.
More and more bitcoin users in different countries certainly add strength to bitcoin
Bitcoin no doubt have a very strong security system. The increasing number of its users indicates towards the strength and the goodwill that it has achieved. It is definitely the people trust on the on its system that attracts them toward it. Otherwise no one will the risk of sinking of assets. Before joining the bitcoin people make it sure to know the strength and the control.
bitcoin are strong enough as the next big thing , survived for almost ten years and during the days bitcoin have been rumoured and even attacked by the government media as the biggest scam scheme, but hey they are even start adopting bitcoin now slowly but sure. be the pioneer by keep believing on bitcoin , and take a lot of advantage later, don't miss it just like 8 or 9 years ago.
1551  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to control greed on gambling? on: April 19, 2017, 09:22:25 PM
If you can't control yourself then you need to restrict access to the media. It is not difficult to set a limit on how much you with all his desire will not be able to withdraw money. If the online casino, it is possible to set a limit of stay on the site. If you have the desire, the idea is always there.

if we have greed in gambling then its still difficult to set a limit, because what we thinking in gambling games is only how we can win much of money from gambling. and if we have much times to win the games and we can win much of money, then our greedy will be increase and we want more win and more money. this is why its really hard to control our greedy in gambling games.
greedy come to you whenever you start to gamble , no matter you are in lost or win . as when you win it , your human nature would never let you to feel satisfy , more and more money you need and more desire to keep playing. and when you lost it you would always thinking about how you didn't deserve a lost , and believe that in the next shots would be your day to win , but you lost it anyway in most of the times. almost can't see there's a cleft for you to control over your greedy , everything done spontaneously.
1552  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Supertition on: April 19, 2017, 09:09:21 PM
Had a friend actually who used to be too much superstitious with his gambling techniques. Whenever he made any bets, he always put his left hand on his cheek and sit in the same posture and watch the whole game until he wins the bet and that's the most stupid thing I have ever seen in someone, I mean how could someone be so deeply involved in gambling in association with such silly superstitions?

That weird. But let him be because of what he believes in. If he won, then its luck not superstition. I also have a lot of friends who believes in superstitious but I just don't say anything to them because I might hurt their emotions. But there are times that I can't really control it, and just laugh at them specially if they loss believing in superstition.
it's just funny to see someone do it repeatedly , a lot of people doing that out there looks stupid but yeah let it go , you would get nothing to give them any advice lol it's same like when you have got addicted to gambling , something that doesn't makes any sense could always be the reason to do anything for them. logically doing any ritual would have no influence .
1553  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would you do with your winnings? on: April 19, 2017, 09:00:45 PM
Whenever I win I withdraw my profits and invest those winnings in promising altcoins from where I keep on making regular profits as my capital to gamble is intact and profits from altcoin is an additional income for me which can be earned regularly.

It's a good way of making your winnings to become more profitable by investing to trading. Unlike others most of us are keep on depositing it for gambling and we really don't if that is going to grow or not because the risk is very high. And it's better if there are some other investments like depositing to casino bankroll's but only if you are able to make it up to 1BTC or higher.
he did keep despositing to gamble by the way  Tongue see the bold part , as gambling addictive then not surprising if most people do that. investment after gamble actually not a bad idea at all , it could locka and secure your winning funds for a better reason rather than have to make it gone again to do another gamble session.

He keeps on depositing only if he will get some profit from trading. But what if he doesn't have some profit for this day that will make him stop for a while. And you are right, investment will always be a good idea as this is going to give you assurance that you are into something that will give you higher chance of making profit unlike in gambling.
yeah i'm pointing out about how people mostly tend to keep playing with their winning money instead to keep it or use for any other thing like trading or to invest. the reason of course everyone know how the feeling won something good from gambling and hard to just leave it, only special rare person who can do that.
1554  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what is the fairest bitcoin betting game you know? on: April 18, 2017, 06:08:49 PM
i know satoshi dice, and many other dice games uses sha256, traceable and provable fair.

but that's not important. the important thing is there is a banker in this game, the banker has a motivation to win, so no matter how hard he prove the result is fair, it's meaningless.

I think the fairest betting is palm up palm down, no banker, only players. 
numbers and codes wouldn't lie , but those people who write the numbers and codes are the only one who can lie that makes the game not fair . any games that has provably fair and verified should be the fairest games, the problem are people who get lost would never accept the fact that they are lost and always blame it on the game , people should start to gamble responsibly. however my favorite game that i think fair enough is a live dealer games.
1555  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin money? on: April 18, 2017, 05:55:31 PM
Bitcoin is a product that can be traded for good and services. Much the same as tulips, jewels, auto, silver, gold, orange juice, pretty much anything you can consider. But, can we think of it as money?

No, we can't. Bitcoin is a denominated commodity that is electronically tradable. It is not electronic dollars. It is more similar to digital gold or digital wheat for that matter. There are 21 million of them. Each can further be divided into 100,000,000 subsections (8 decimal places). That is 2,100,000,000,000,000 bitcoins, or 2.1 quadrillion pieces.
then can you buy a cup of coffee with a silver? you can buy t-shirt, laptop, house and almost anything with bitcoin. for me as long as it could be used to buy something then it's a money. bitcoin even more than just money, it's a revolutionary money that unusual but become popular nowadays as an investment but also a lot of people used it to shopping onlin , trade online etc.
Yes that is one of the benefits of using bitcoin is you can use it as a secondary money and buy the things that you want online or in the real world if you like to. Bitcoin can be the future of money because the government might make a digital money to use it online and transfer remittances online and that is what bitcoin have.
yeah people love to spend bitcoin to buy stuff due its easy access and the flexibility where most currency have a lot of step to do especially when you want to spend it online , anyway about the future money i think bitcoin would not replace fiat , but it could be the first currency choice after fiat. bitcoin sure it's a revolutionary and future of money with its definition.

If bitcoin is the second choice of the people that means that it has not replaced fiat and fiat is still on the mainstream and people will use bitcoin as their secondary currency and even if bitcoin becomes more popular in future I don't think it can ever replace fiat.
i'm not saying that , bitcoin could replace fiat as people daily tool to pay something as i believe nothing impossible . but of course the proccess requires a lot of times not soon , people are overoptimistic about bitcoin . at least we have to think realistic too , a new thing like bitcoin could changed anytime just keep an eye on it.
1556  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Excuses on: April 18, 2017, 05:48:04 PM
Why should I use any excuses to gamble?! Im a grown-up person and I can do whatever I decide with my own money. Everything is OK if its a reasonable boundaries. And many stuff should be considered as gambling as well. 
yeah but the problem are op asking for specific case when you gamble push the limit and force yourself to use a 'hot' money as you have something to pay soon. gambling in that situation always be a shortcut option to solve the problem. but instead your problem get solved it's just getting worse most of the times.

I think OP is asking if we had an experience where we crossed the border and use the money that is not our to fill our needs to gamble.



Honestly I almost do that, where I was tempted to use the money to bet on some game.  But luckily the idea of being shamed due to my act stop me from doing it.  After realizing, I rushed to go home and give the money to my mum.
yeah that's what i mean lol , i have done that several times. never have a good result , and that time i woke up from the daydreaming about how you could make gambling profitable in the long run. it was just an obsession that could turn to an addiction anytime. gambling are something that hard to deal with .
1557  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin price is recovering! on: April 18, 2017, 05:25:58 PM
One thing I know that Bitcoin always comes back strongly anytime there's media propaganda against it and this is no different at all, a lot of the tv critics are eating a humble pie and I hope they remain shut . Bitcoin will always recover from th negative news and we are headed to the moon.

i think bitcoin now is stable in $12xx, its up and down in that range. i agree that btc is really strong to comeback and show its power depend on what news said and no matter other say, btc is always lead the market. its already makes us happy to see this price but suddenly for traders which trade btc-altcoin, this is makes them very sad because the price is down when btc price is up.
comeback to what price ? the bitcoin price right now are around $1,220 , and that number are more than enough and good for bitcoin . but the grwoth wouldn't stop until today , as time goes by people would realize how precious bitcoin it is and start to use it and drive bitcoin price growing into the all time highest price.

It's great that we got this far back again. I am truly happy about the price and can't really complain, aside from the fact that I didn't buy a lot when it fell down back to $950 levels. Oh well, I think we can possibly see a price of $1,500 after everything clears up with bitcoin and its forks.
people too afraid to take a risk keep buying bitcoin , but instead to do storing your fiat into bitcoin only without do anything better you buy small amount of bitcoin continuously as you used it in daily basis. the bitcoin development would getting rise faster so do with the bitcoin price if a lot of people doing this together , sadly only few people realize about this huge potential.
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Could you kindly redirect me to those statements so I can take a look and provide you with the detailed information.

I have no idea

It would take some time to list through all the threads I'v been in and find the reply  Cheesy
Someone just wrote that a good thing is you can invest in the bankroll and lock your funds for 24 hours so you dont' spend them in FJ

I do not think the person who mentioned it was referring directly to us, as I tried to find out more and can clarify that we do not offer such feature from our end.


Mhui

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what 20% reward? i have won the easter promo prize too , not a big amount but really thankyou , loyal player always here Cheesy. that promo really get addicted by the way , wish the best for fortunejack and having a long life  Grin.
1559  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin the future of online gambling? on: April 18, 2017, 05:00:25 PM
I think so, because most of bitcoin users are gamblers to make big money that why i really think bitcoin can be the future online gambling. And there are so many bitcoin online gambling sites that you will see and there are many people who really use it everyday to earn money.

thats right and maybe in out there, many gamblers that know bitcoin is from doing gambling in their real life so they now only using bitcoin. and because bitcoin can hidden their identity in gambling games, so i think bitcoin still the best option to playing online gambling and bitcoin is the future of online gambling itself.
Yeah more users came to know about bitcoin through gambling. Another thing is that gambling industry is one among the biggest body that helps in a large transaction of bitcoin which is required for a stabilized movement of price as well the adoption of technology into various fields.
i even believe that the biggest impact on how bitcoin circulating are because of bitcoin gambling website . there's a lot of bitcoin casino popping up and operated well so far , legal or not aren't a big deal as most bitcoin casino run anonymously as most player requested. of course there would be a plus and minus when you using bitcoin to gamble , but i believe bitcoin are the perfect form of online money.
1560  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can u lose with gambling? on: April 18, 2017, 04:44:24 PM
It is extremely easy to lose all of your bankroll with gambling. Without enough self control, you can go on tilt after a tough loss causing you to wager more than you normally would and you might go broke doing so.

And how much you can lose with gambling, let's say you can easily lose all that you've got. But of course most of us aren't that willing to lose all. And if ever you lose your control then that's the time that you can lose everything you've got. I don't want to lose all of my bankroll and I know how to control myself when it comes to bankroll management.
Yeah if i ever lose. We will try again to play to recover our losses so in the mean time i can't now control myself playing again my remaining bankroll just to recover my losses, then definetely it will just lose and lose until it will become zero, but i'm only playing thay i can afford to lose for it

You should control yourself if you are in that state of being. It's better not to use your remaining bankroll for the aim of recovering your losses. We know that the more act of chasing you'll do, the more chance of losing more in the end.
that's why you need to set a winning amount target or max losing amount , otherwise you would just make your situation getting worse time to time. at least when you have tried for the second time to recover your previous losses and still find yourself failed , then you have to realize something bad more than just lost after lost could happened if you didn't stop it immediately.
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