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1561  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Asian Football Cup 2019 Discussion Thread on: January 08, 2019, 04:25:40 PM
Heart said Vietnam, but ended up just using Saudi to play one leg of a weird parlay I got going on... so far Vietnam leading 2-1 but only thanks to an own goal, I think Iraq are good enough to at least draw, even though the Southeast Asians are still the ones currently with more shots on goal. 35 mins a lot left to happen though.

Edit they just levelled 2-2. 30 mins left, they've got to win this.

BTW anyone got good streams for AFC? My Kodi lines severely outdated

check out this site fromhot.com
not the best quality but kinda good , delay for today is around 40 seconds but sometimes it less or more since it offer various links and streams
also sportzone app for mobile is good and they have AFC matches as well
1562  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Asian Football Cup 2019 Discussion Thread on: January 08, 2019, 12:24:39 PM
Iraq vs Vietnam

Iraq has great history performance in AC and they are used to it , their team overall is better than Vietnam and they have the motivation as well
I'm expecting a win for then and taking Iraq -0.75 X1.82 (sportsbet ) , so in general people predicting a win for Iraq but I'm hoping for 2 goals win but anyways 1 goal win will be half win for the betslip

Iraq win to NIL X2.38 is looking nice as well IMO , but in general I would love to see how they play their first game first cause as we saw there were many surprises for other big teams
1563  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which are the fastest streaming services available? on: January 08, 2019, 06:16:03 AM
there is an app called Sportzone that I use in case the event isn't streamed on beinsports , there is no delay  
I know about that app as well, it is the same as videostream, Ukrainian service but it is no longer available. Sportzone is ok with football, but there is a delay compared to bet365 for example, if both services show the same match, the sportzone app is always about 1 second behind.
With other sports like handball or Ice hockey, the delay is in the 20-30 secs range, that is huge.


I usually use it for low tier tennis where  popular channels don't stream the event and it's the best I found so far for tennis , but yeah maybe there are better alternatives
will keep following the thread to know what people are using , cause I need some alternatives as well to watch on mobile or laptop in case electricity goes off here
1564  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which are the fastest streaming services available? on: January 07, 2019, 08:58:31 AM
A question for those betting on sports and using streaming services as a reference, which are the fastest services available in terms of delay from the live event? For in-match betting a fast streaming provider is a +. bet365 streams were pretty fast in the past when I compared the delay with cable and satellite but for some reason they are much slower since the start of the 2018/2019 season.
Can someone who knows tell me what you guys are using? Paid, Free...whatever.

there is an app called Sportzone that I use in case the event isn't streamed on beinsports , there is no delay 
thing about this app is that they show the odds as well from 1xbet for the game that you are watching and the odds keep updating every like 5 seconds
I'm not sure if this app belongs to 1xbet but there are tons of sports and they always quote the odds from 1xbet , so they are either affiliated with them or it's directly sponsored by 1xbet
1565  Economy / Gambling / Re: ★ BITCOINRUSH CASINO AND SPORTSBOOK EST. 2013 ★ on: January 07, 2019, 06:10:44 AM
Thank you guys, for the congrats I recvd for winning the leaderboard.

The site credited the 100 mBTC into my account, and I am pleased to say that with the prize I've won, I managed to win another 70mBTC with sports-betting.

I submitted withdrawal request for the 170 mBTC which is only 0.17 in BTC, and the status is PENDING since 4th Jan.

Had been 3 days, but now I have confidence that the withdrawal will be successful soon (after recent successful withdrawals).

Really wish that bitcoinrush.io could step up on their withdrawal process, as I am looking to buy ETH asap because the Constantinople hard fork is coming very soon!


don't worry about it you will get it , my last withdrawal was delayed as well and it was smaller but I got it
it seems there are some delays , not sure why cause I have lost access to slack group after slack decided to ban my country and I lost tons of groups and data
but maybe some staff memebers are still in holiday
1566  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Asian Football Cup 2019 Discussion Thread on: January 07, 2019, 05:53:56 AM
can't be 1.99 after commisions in Fairlay cause the max that fairlay can charge for this event is 0.25% on winnings which means your odds should be X2.047
are you sure about that ?? anyways most of the times fairlay has the same odds that bitcoinrush has so it's better to use them only in case they offer another market or they have an order with higher odds ( occasionally )

Hmm you're absolutely right, I don't know why that didn't immediately jump out at me. Too late to check it actually, but I was almost 100% sure I saw 1.997 winnings when I chose to match the offer. In general I only take Fairlay on underdog bets (they always have at least a whole point more than even BCR).

Bloody opening games as it turned out though. Palestine played really desperately, got a CB sent off and generally just kept the game to a scrappy one, but Syria normally thrives in that too. They should have still won this game, but as it stands, Jordan top the table with 3 points... and meet Syria next.

Syria may just end up winning the table too if they can win that game, and then hold Australia at minimum (though don't see why they can't beat the Socceroos). Every game is winnable the way it looks.

kinda disappointed after the match , I knew I shouldn't bet Syria at X1.65 but when odds jumped to X2.05 I knew that it's a great bet to make
Syria dominated the match in everything but failed to reach the net , Palestine had no threat at and the Syrian goalkeeper didn't have any single thread ( the camera I guess showed him like 4 times )

the Syrian coach did extremly bad calls though

I would say in the last 4 matches this match was the less surprising , Syrian team did everything but failed to score
1567  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Asian Football Cup 2019 Discussion Thread on: January 06, 2019, 03:12:18 PM
Australia was beaten by Jordan, well a little bit unexpected for me...
Thailand vs India, frankly I have no clue, however, I think Thailand has more chances than India.
The next game I expect Syria would win vs Palestine but as said before, in AFC, it is very hard to expect who could win!

Actually, first 3 matches of the tournament have all brought in unexpected results.

1. UAE held to a draw even as huge favourites.
2. Jordan beating Australia at over 10/1 odds.
3. India currently leading 3-1 with 20 mins to play... and I actually backed Thailand to win with a -1.5 handicap haha!

So yeah, looks like we might have a good value betting against bookies, but you could be really unlucky and only see the upsets early in tourney. Terrible outing for me so far!

@Sy: I also took the Syria win @2.05 as a single match now, thanks to the results so far... after commissions, just 1.99 though.


can't be 1.99 after commisions in Fairlay cause the max that fairlay can charge for this event is 0.25% on winnings which means your odds should be X2.047
are you sure about that ?? anyways most of the times fairlay has the same odds that bitcoinrush has so it's better to use them only in case they offer another market or they have an order with higher odds ( occasionally )
1568  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Asian Football Cup 2019 Discussion Thread on: January 06, 2019, 03:00:25 PM
after Jordan win against Australia the calculation should be complex for group B
I was not going to bet today but odds for Syria has moved from X1.65 to X2.05 , I see value with this odds so I will take the bet
Syria should win now against Palestine since the other two matches they will be facing Australia and Jordan who was able to gain precious 3 points from Australia

so winning this match is a must !!
1569  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Asian Football Cup 2019 Discussion Thread on: January 06, 2019, 10:10:09 AM
today is my favorite day since Group B will play , as much as I like to bet today but I will just avoid betting for today
I will focus on Jordan vs Austrlia and Syria vs Palestine

on papers both Australia and Syria should have easy wins , but believe me it's not that easy
last 4 matches between Australia ended 2 wins for Jordan in Jordan and 2 wins for Australia in Australia , so the recent matches show that Australia really suffers against Jordan
Australia has a lot of injuries , but they really surprised me last friendly against Oman where they were able to win 5-0 !!
if they didn't manage to win that big I would confidently go for Jordan +1.5 but it seems that Australia still playing good football even with the injuries they have
as I stated I won't bet it , but I'm not expecting an easy game for Australia

for Syria vs Palestine , historically and looking at recent performance Syria is a clear favor to win but again I won't bet this match
today will be the first official game (not friendly ) for Syria with the new manager , during the last year after the new manager started coaching Syria he played a lot of friendlies but I liked the performance in only 2 or 3
the coach tried a lot of plans and a lot of players , so till now I'm not 100% sure how he will play

there is no doubt that Syrian players are better but it's the game plan that I'm worried about cause as I stated this the first official match

so I will just watch the games today and see how teams will perform and maybe next round I will start having clear bets and reads regarding this group
this is the most exciting group in the whole competition IMO
1570  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Asian Football Cup 2019 Discussion Thread on: January 06, 2019, 03:46:12 AM
unexpected start with the host drawing with Bahrain , this actually kinda showed me that all the participants teams have chance and big teams' edge isn't that high so there may be some good chances taking underdogs and double chance

found any good outrights for Tourney winners yet Sy?


picking the winner is really hard in Asian , any team can win as long as they have the spirit just like what Iraq did in 2007 while their country was at war
so for the winner I have picked Syria X48 betfair exchange , because I know my team and these odds are just way too high for Syria especially that other bookies aren't offering that high odds for Syria so I kinda picked great odds and I may trade it later

I made few other outright bets but not about the winners
I picked Syria to win group B at X6.20 sportsbet , cause again I believe bookies are way underestimating Syria and in world cup qualification bookies underestimated syria as well in almost all of their matches but Syria ended up drawing against Iran and having 2 draws against Australia to lose in extra time in Australia
so these bets are kinda hard to cash , but I'm more than sure that these odds for Syria are way too +EV

I also have other two bets : Syria Top West Asian Football Federation Team X15.00 sportsbet and Qatar Top West Asian Football Federation Team X14.00 sportsbet as well

this as well is one of the craziest odds I found , odds are way too high for both Syria and Qatar
West Asian teams are : Saudi Arabia , UAE , Iraq , Syria , Qatar , Jordan , Lebanon , Palestine , Oman and Yemen
what really matters from these is the first 5 teams since it's really unlikely the other teams will have any chance in the competition
again bookies are underestimating both Syria and Qatar with these odds , Qatar invested billions of dollars in football for their next world cup and they are preparing their team for the upcoming world cup
with such kind of odds it's crazy and it's a must bet for me   
1571  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Asian Football Cup 2019 Discussion Thread on: January 05, 2019, 09:58:51 AM
for today there is only one match : UAE vs Bahrain

I'm taking UAE to win today X1.65 ( Betcoin or Asianodds )

UAE has great talents and they are expected to achieve 9 points from their 3 games , they are playing home as well and overall they are better than Bahrain
Bahrain has poor performance comparing it with the other Arabic Gulf countries and personally I watched their last friendly games without getting any good impression

so with the given odds I'm kinda sure there is good value in taking UAE , and that's my only bet for today
1572  Economy / Gambling discussion / Asian Football Cup 2019 Discussion Thread on: January 05, 2019, 07:43:52 AM
so no more wait , the biggest Asian sport event will start today in UAE
for the first time the competition will have 24 teams so it's gonna be a fun football month

let's discuss matches here and post some bets for both match ups and outrights , I'm gonna post my outright bets later tonight
1573  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: any bitcoin site offering outrights for Asian Cup 2019 ? on: January 05, 2019, 07:13:09 AM

-snip-

thanks ronnie but I still can't find outrights betting in cloudbet , only matchups

at the moment the following sites are offering outrights : Sportsbet , Pinnacle (and fairlay of course )
for fiat betting Marthonbet is offering way better lines , so if you have access to it lines should be better
1574  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: bitcoinbetus scam on: January 05, 2019, 07:06:11 AM
I'm not sure why this thread is up after relatively long time , but in general there are tons of such sites
you can't imagine how much of spam I get in telegram about such sites and all of them have the same shady concept , you either have to deposit certain amount of btc to get paid or you have to download the "site app "

when it's like this it's really easy to avoid getting scammed cause only newbies fail to understand this scam , but in general the golden rules for me is to never try any site unless there are tons of good reviews about it online or it has an active thread here with decent site design so you kinda eliminate the hit&run as well
1575  Economy / Gambling / Re: Bitdouble.io |social gambling game |Prov fair | 0.005 mBit faucet | New PVP game on: January 05, 2019, 06:35:08 AM
Is there any house edge on the coinflip game?

Or is it just a free PVP game?

3% fee, but it is not a HE, most players get it back with VIP level bonuses:
https://bitdouble.io/faq.php#vip_levels


same concept , actually with the fee system the site is totally eliminating variance
3% is so high for a simple coin flip game , even with the VIP system you have your players should do way better in any other site that has the classic 1% HE

site is really nice , but you should work on your HE cause other sites have better games
1576  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Where are you playing Poker? on: January 05, 2019, 06:26:19 AM
Does anyone here have experience with any of the Asian invite only sites (pokermaster, etc.)?

yeah I tried one of them and my experience was good but I can never recommend it or even trust it with serious money
site name was allnewpoker and the agent I dealt with had a thread here in the forums but I can't see him these days
I still have his telegram tho in case you want to try it

but in general I can't trust these sites cause at any moment they may close so I was depositing really small amounts and cashout the profit right after I double the money
software is nice and games are softer than other sites
1577  Economy / Gambling / Re: ★ BITCOINRUSH CASINO AND SPORTSBOOK EST. 2013 ★ on: January 03, 2019, 09:52:09 PM
I believe I've won the Bitcoinrush.io Leaderboard competition, that ended on UTC 00.00 hours, 1st Jan 2019  Cheesy

The top prize is 100mBtc and I believe I'm the only eligible winner, as the T&Cs stated that all players have to wager minimum 3500 mBtc in sports betting and any casino games. I've wagered over 4600 mBtc and so far there's no one else that meets the 3500 mBtc mark.

Problem is, I've emailed to the site's admin email regarding this, and there's is no reply yet.

Fingers cross, hopefully there's some positive reply from the site soon.


congratulations , looking at the current leaderboard it seems that rush decided to stop offering prizes for the coming months since it's only showing leaderboard without prizes
it seems there are some delays these days due to holidays , also last time I sent an email to support they told me that my email ended in junk so there was a small delay
maybe that's the case with your email as well

but overall it's probably due to holidays , I have a withdrawal request pending for over 24 hours as well
1578  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cloudbet | Bitcoin Casino & Sportsbook | The No.1 Bitcoin Gambling Site on: January 02, 2019, 03:31:54 AM
Hey!

I got a problem. I made a deposit of 157 mBTC cause I didn't know exactly what I wanted to play with, and when checking I see that "I can't make a withdrawal without playing through 100% of my balance".

Wtf? So I actually lost my 157 mBTC unless I bet them all?
Did I misunderstood something? That seems like pure theft to me!
You are a newbie to online gambling, right?

Otherwise you simply would have put "cloudbet scam" into google, right?

didn't you see his post right after this one ?? he got paid right after he contacted the support
and btw not only cloudbet has such rule , there are several sites that force players to wager a certain percentage of the deposit before they allow withdrawals
1579  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cloudbet | Bitcoin Casino & Sportsbook | The No.1 Bitcoin Gambling Site on: January 02, 2019, 12:07:09 AM
hey cloudbet , any chance you add outrights betting for Asian Cup 2019 ?
at the moment there is only one bitcoin site offering it and the margin there is really high , so would be nice if you and other sites added these so we have other options

the competition will start in 4 days
1580  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: any bitcoin site offering outrights for Asian Cup 2019 ? on: December 29, 2018, 03:54:53 AM
Up to now sportsbet has always offered outrights for major competitions like Euro and World Cup together with major leagues of Europe like Premier League.

Probably and hopefully they will add these outright options you want, I think a simple request in their official thread by a few players will make them offer these outright bets. I have seen them do this in the past when asked for a specific betting line. Not always but they have done it.

Thanks I will ask them through live support later

also please guys if you find any site offering these let me know here , I may start a discussion thread for this competition as well if no one else created it
hopefully there will be good money  Cheesy
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