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161  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Dugin's daughter killed. Did she really say this? on: August 26, 2022, 04:46:38 PM
The daughter bares zero responsibility. Guilt by association should not be the standard for the death penalty, even if she's a fascist.
Completely disagree. She bares responsibility like all other propagandists. They all washing brains of Russian people for years, setting them against Ukrainians. They are reason why majority of Russians support this war. Maybe destroying them in such way isn't right thing, but it's nonsense to say that they're not responsible.

There is no justification for a death sentence, even if the accused were Hitler himself or Stalin (both are butchers). This does not eliminate the responsibility for the victim if she committed a crime of any kind, but believe me, it is very dangerous to justify the killing with arguments that we think are self-evident and undisputed.
The one who carried out the killing is not impeccable from mistakes to condemn others to burning. And if the victim was promoting racist ideas against a particular race or nationalism, it would be more correct to hold the system that gave her the green light to do so.

She and her family are responsible for the war crimes the Russian army is committing in Ukraine right now.

She and her extended family, to the third generation, should have been eliminated a long time ago.

All Russian propagandists are war criminals. They and their families will be brought to justice, one way or another.
162  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: August 25, 2022, 06:22:10 PM
The topic has become too boring for me personally for at least a month, it does not deserve daily close attention.

Of course it's boring. Your fascist state continues its glorious genocidal traditions... nothing new. 22 dead in a missile attack on a train station.
If the Armed Forces of Ukraine stop hiding behind civilians as a human shield, there will be fewer civilian casualties.

And when the Russian army leaves Ukraine (Crimea and Donbas) there will be no civilian casualties.

Russians just need to go home. Stop attacking other countries.
163  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Dugin's daughter killed. Did she really say this? on: August 22, 2022, 03:12:57 AM

Apart from the affirmation, what do you think? Did they kill her from the inside? Was it the USA? Will there be repercussions?
Already Denis Pushilin, the "head" of the self-declared pro-Russian "Donetsk People's Republic", has already laid the blame on Ukraine. The truth is that it is difficult to separate the relationship between Russia and Ukraine. A report stated that 17.3% of the population of Ukraine are of Russian descent and about 11 million Russians people have relatives in Ukraine. It would be very difficult to ascertain where the killings was planned and carried out. Maybe some Russians have become tired of the war and wants to instill fear on the ruling class to make them stop the war. The result of this war might be guerrilla warfare in Russian soil. Kremlin have promised to carryout proper investigation and that culprit would be dealt with. Russia never forgives, there would be reprisal attacks. If it is the US, Ukraine would pay the price and if Ukraine is the culprit, they would also bear the consequences.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62621509.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/20/russia-ukraine-relatives-conversations-propaganda/   

Russian NRA claimed the responsibility.
164  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: August 22, 2022, 03:11:02 AM

Recently, against the backdrop of dramatic failures in the Donbas, Ukraine has stepped up terrorist activities - the shelling of the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant and the explosions of sabotage groups in the Crimea.

Don't forget targeting Ukrainian POW's with HIMARS, and blanketing civilian areas with butterfly mines (which they had sworn under weapons convention treaties to have gotten rid of) on their last chance before being run out of Adivika (or whatever it is called.)

I am not the least bit surprised that they would try to catch a spent fuel pool on fire and make a Fukushima out of parts of the former Ukraine.  I try really hard not to dehumanize populations because doing so tends to lead to atrocities, but the so-called 'Ukrainians' are really making it difficult for me.  Likewise the team of 'social media influences' here on this thread.

As for Crimea, nobody buys the idea that the Ukroids have anywhere near the sophistication to pull some of that off, and even if they did they'd just sell the equipment earmarked for the job.  Rumor is that it's mainly the British.  The U.S. is more a money-pump than an active player in the planning or execution of any meaningful military activity.


Another lie after lie, "butterfly mines" have been used just by the RF and there is abundant proof of it (it cannot be hidden, there are photographs all over. HIMARS is simply not a platform that can be used to kill people in-masse, it is just useless for such a purpose. It just delivers a precision strike on object that are critical and expensive and that is exactly what is being done. We are talking real precision, not RF "precision".


Ukraine did the Ukroid POW's with HIMARS and the indeed did achieve quite a high KIA.  And yes, the accuracy is pretty impressive.  The trouble is the destructive power of the things against non-humans is lacking.  They made an impressive line of marks on the bridge in the South.  The trouble is that traffic just kept right on flowing past the marks in the middle lane of the roadway.
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As said, it is perfect to hit an airbase fuel or munitions depot, not at all for killing a large number of people. The US has cheaper ways of doing that if they want to.

BTW the facility hit has been known to be a detention camp, overcrowded, where independent reports have gathered testimonial evidence of torture, forcer labour and many other humans rights violations. It fits perfectly with the concept of the RF cruelty to bomb prisoners in "retaliation" for some imaginary offence.

What Ukraine did bomb (for the second time!) was Crimea's Black Sea fleet command.

This lady, who was keen on killing others, will not live to see it for the third time. Repeat with me... "I am safe in Putin's RF... I am safe in Putin's RF..."

The clusterfuck that Putin started is spreading to Russia.

NRA will get more members with each successful sabotage and assassination. They will denazify and dePutinize Russia.
165  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Dugin's daughter killed. Did she really say this? on: August 21, 2022, 04:40:31 PM
Do you really think that the assassination was a result of her statements about the Ukrainians? Maybe that's what the killer wants us to think.

When someone incites violence, it does not give the green light to kill them. This young lady was supposed to be sued for her racist remarks on the media. And since this could not have happened, this is certainly the official position of the state.

Of course, there is a front against the Russian invasion of Ukraine inside Russia, and it is not surprising that it is supportive of Ukraine or that it is run by hidden powers. And here the United States can be easily inserted through its proxies in almost every country. But I think the United States has no direct benefit for this to happen because such statements made by the dead woman are in its interest to distort Russia's image and inflame public opinion against it.

It could also be Putin himself, you know, to transform the 'special operation' into 'war', nukes, full mobilization, etc.

He did a similar provocation to justify the Chechen war.
166  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Alexnder Dugin toughter accident analysis what happened on: August 21, 2022, 04:36:31 PM
I guess some sane Russians are fighting back. Great job!!!

Unfortunately, her dad was not in the car with her.

If it was a paid hit, then hopefully he will be denazified soon.
167  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What will Zelensky do against mini-nukes? on: August 20, 2022, 10:57:48 PM
If you can believe the media, the world knows that Ukrainians are dying by the hundreds or thousands, being maimed, losing property, gradually losing more people and land as Russia moves forward. Zelensky's big boasts have turned into BS. And we don't even know for a fact that he was truly elected with all the election fraud going on.

It's very noble to die for a cause you believe in. Russia doesn't want that for the Ukraine. They are sisters. If they wanted such, they would have started out with the nukes first day. But if Ukrainians really want to die, okay, nuke 'em. But be honorable about it and give them, say, a month warning to remove Zelensky, or to move to Lithuania or somewhere else.

There is even the possibility that Zelensky, realizing the reality of nukes, might step down to save his own miserable hide, just to look good in the eyes of the people so they don't execute him.

Cool

If the Rashists deploy nukes in Ukraine or cause NPP fallout, it would be equivalent to an attack on the NATO countries.

NATO would respond and neutralize the Russian army on all fronts.

It would be the end of RF as we know it.
168  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Olaf Scholz's unforgivable blunder on: August 20, 2022, 05:02:38 PM
How confident are you that the number of fleeing Russians dwarf the number of Russian spies to the degree that it would be worthy of denying every fleeing Russian the ability to resettle in Europe? I wouldn't know, I doubt anyone does.

Seems a bit unreasonable to categorically deny every Russian a European visa under the premise they're a Putin stooge. I'm unsure if this is what the EU is proposing, or whether they're proposing an extreme vetting. My research into this issue is bare. I'm okay with the latter -- in fact I think any country should employee extreme vetting when handing out visas.

It makes perfect sense for all NATO countries to deny entry to all Russian citizens.
Not only that, all pro-Russian supporters must be deported from the NATO countries.

NATO needs to prepare for war with Russia. Any nuclear fallout on the territory of Ukraine will be an attack on neighboring NATO countries
and will invoke Article 5.

Russians who want to leave Russia can go to Georgia, Kazakhstan, UAE, Africa, or South America and ask for political asylum there.
169  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Does the planet really need saving? on: August 18, 2022, 11:13:28 PM
"Save the earth", "Save the Ocean", "Save the forests", "The earth is bleeding" etc are very common phrases we come across in this century. What is funny is that humans aren't even looking at saving themselves (like "Save the humans"  Cheesy) except shelling the shit out of ourselves in the name of wars based on egos of our leaders.

From what I see, The earth doesn't give a damn on whether we try to save it or not. We found the Earth here, and we shall probably go extinct at one point and leave it behind, just like the dinosaurs are now a distant history to it. The earth will always heal no matter what.

All this "Save the earth" projects or themes won't make sense if a random asteroid came from nowhere and hit our planet, wiping out everyone. I think our priorities are misplaced. We should be looking at saving each other, avoid pointless wars and survive peacefully.

The planet does not need saving. We need to protect our environment and our limited resources.

We are only protected by a 1-3 mm ozone layer. When it will be gone, most of life will go with it.

We need to stop using fossil fuels, and we need to stop the exponential growth of the human population.

Don't shit where you eat.
170  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Olaf Scholz's unforgivable blunder on: August 18, 2022, 11:08:25 PM


Alik Bakhshi

Olaf Scholz's unforgivable blunder

         The European Union will discuss the termination of the issuance of visas for Russians. The Baltic countries have already closed the border for tourists from Russia. However, not all European leaders are unanimous on this issue. So, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz is against the ban on issuing visas for Russian citizens, arguing that Europe should provide an opportunity for Russians who do not agree with Putin's policy to leave the country. If this happens, then hope for democratic progress in the minds of Russian society can be abandoned for a long time.(1) None of those who left will repeat Navalny's bold and conscious act, who returned and thereby defied his killer. Putin will be extremely happy and infinitely grateful to Olaf Scholz for such a decision by the European Union. There will be no need to organize the expulsion of the dissatisfied, and this is the color of the nation, by “philosophical ships”, as the Communists did in 1922, thereby decapitating Russia and making it possible for Comrade to come to power. Stalin, who made an obedient herd of mankurts out of the people.

1. The strategic mistake of the West and Europe in particular. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/73812.html
   08/19/2022


Olaf does not have any experience with Rashists/KGB/FSB. By bringing more Russian spies he makes Germany and the EU less secure.

Each ethnic Russian in Germany/West should be isolated and vetted.

Those who are pro-Russia should have their assets confiscated for supporting
terrorists and be expelled/deported back to Russia.
171  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: August 17, 2022, 05:01:57 AM
non-smoking signs are not working as expected. Crimea has suffered some mysterious explosions in fuel depots, electric facilities and military basis. Since all HIMARS have been destroyed by "precision-posting" from the Kremlin trolls on this thread, there has to be another explanation for all these. Maybe is the heat of summer that is making things explode, that must be it. The RF should now consider sending cooling equipment to the front.
Recently, against the backdrop of dramatic failures in the Donbas, Ukraine has stepped up terrorist activities - the shelling of the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant and the explosions of sabotage groups in the Crimea. This activity is aimed at creating a media effect in order to restore interest in Ukraine in the West, but it can also completely discredit Ukraine in the eyes of the West.


Not to worry, as long as Russians are dying in droves, everything is going according to Putin's plan. LOL.

The proverbial 'heavy smoker' who sank the Moskva cruiser swam to Crimea and now he is smoking his cigarettes all over Crimea.

Russians will be dying as long as they stay in Ukraine. End of story.

Oil is at 87, once we get to 65-70, Putin will have to dip into his 300B war chest to fund the government, AND the war.

EU/US/UK visa restrictions for Russians are coming, they will be followed by the criminalization of pro-Russian support in the West, and I am
guessing asset confiscations, revocations of residencies and citizenships, and eventually deportations back to mother Russia.

So pack your bags. Bundesnachrichtendienst will be knocking on your doors soon.
172  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Putin cannot avoid a tribunal on: August 16, 2022, 04:39:56 PM
Once more countries will declare Russia a terrorist state, any pro-Russian support will be criminalized in the civilized world.

Visa bans for Russian citizens, revocations of residencies, and western citizenships will follow.

Asset confiscations of pro-Russian supporters in the West will follow.

All this will put pressure on the Russian citizenry, especially the ruling class and Putin will be sacrificed on the altar of greed.
173  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: August 13, 2022, 02:58:08 AM

Think about how stupid you are sounding. The Donbas area is not some tiny area off in the Ural Mountains somewhere. It's a big area, along with other areas south of it, that the Russians have liberated.

If people are too stupid now, to fix their own water and electricity, they were always too stupid to have any in the first place. Russians aren't stopping them from fixing their electricity and water. They are even helping them by protecting them from the rebel Ukraine military.

If the people don't want to fix their own water and electricity, and rebuild their own cities and homes that the Ukraine military destroyed, that's up to them. They have the ability to do either, to fix or not fix... or they never had these things in the first place, and might as well go back an live in caves like their ancient ancestors.

Cool

Russia liberated jack squat.

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I didn't even know Jack Squat was Ukrainian.     Cool

What is your native language?
174  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: August 12, 2022, 10:44:31 PM
all the killing and property damage that the Ukraine military did in the Donbas area since 2014

They must have sucked at it because Putin's army came in 2022 and still found entire cities full of people to raze and to kill.

Also fun fact: Only after the war started donbass citizens were left without water and electricity - https://t.me/RottenKepkenChannel/19025

I think this maybe one of the best "protection and liberation" in modern history. People now lives in medieval. From the perspective of view of local trolls and idiots this is true "liberation"

Think about how stupid you are sounding. The Donbas area is not some tiny area off in the Ural Mountains somewhere. It's a big area, along with other areas south of it, that the Russians have liberated.

If people are too stupid now, to fix their own water and electricity, they were always too stupid to have any in the first place. Russians aren't stopping them from fixing their electricity and water. They are even helping them by protecting them from the rebel Ukraine military.

If the people don't want to fix their own water and electricity, and rebuild their own cities and homes that the Ukraine military destroyed, that's up to them. They have the ability to do either, to fix or not fix... or they never had these things in the first place, and might as well go back an live in caves like their ancient ancestors.

Cool

Russia liberated jack squat. They are occupying some Ukrainian territories. They killed some native population, some civilians left voluntarily to
territories controlled by the Ukrainian army, some were forcefully deported to Russia.

They hunted down all Ukrainian men of Donbas and forced them into DNR 'army'. They are used as cannon fodder on the front lines
to detect the location of Ukrainian positions. They don't even count them, or exchange POWs.

Donetsk is a ghost town now. No men in the streets.

Liberation my ass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcH5KqC5X34
175  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ukraine - a victim of immorality West against Russia on: August 12, 2022, 01:43:44 AM
The West specifically provoked such a situation in Ukraine to quarrel with the fraternal people and the best way out of this situation is to join Ukraine to Russia.
Ukrainians no longer a fraternal nation for the Russian. You asked the Ukrainians whether they want to join Russia? So the brothers don't do that! Russians only think about their interests and therefore they are invaders.

 After 5 years, your words turned out to be true.

The mistake the West made was to assume that Soviet leadership just magically disappeared after 1991.

When I heard George W. Bush say that he looked into Putin's eyes and "saw his soul' I almost fell off my chair.

Many Western politicians still don't understand Soviet ideology, even today.

You should not be talking to Russia or signing any trading deals, you should be bombing Russia now.

There will be no peace in the world until Russia has a semi-functional army. This Soviet cancer needs to be eradicated as soon as possible.

Putin and his enablers need to be brought to Hague on genocide and war crimes charges.

We should not be trading or have any contact with Russian citizens. All Russian citizens' assets in the West need to be confiscated. Any Russian living in the West who supports Russia need to be stripped of their assets and residency/western citizenship and sent back to Russia.

Eradicate this cancer from your western societies.
176  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: August 12, 2022, 01:32:03 AM
I will say a few words about the "barrage of fire" tactics, which the allied forces of Russia and the LDNR used to break into the fortified areas in Avdiivka. This is an old trick from the times of the First World War, which the Russian Army masters to perfection. To use it successfully, you need good logistics, because you will need to spend a huge amount of artillery shells and multiple launch rocket systems. Russia is now spending about 5,000 tons of artillery shells per day in Ukraine on the use of a "barrage of fire" (not counting high-precision missiles). For each unarmored target in the Donbass, 300-500 shells are spent. After such artillery preparation, assault detachments with the support of armored vehicles go into battle, usually formed according to the national principle (Tuvans, Buryats, Chechens, etc.), which use their native language in radio communications, which provides additional protection against radio interception. If the assault squads meet strong resistance, they move back and artillery again works on the identified positions. Such tactics make it possible to successfully advance without numerical superiority and with minimal losses (but with an increased consumption of artillery shells).

That's why 50 or even 100 HIMARS can't turn the tide of this operation. Russia can concentrate 10-15 divisions of howitzers and MLRS on a small sector of the front, and they plow everything with cheap shells and unguided rockets. And Ukraine can oppose only 1-2 divisions, which, moreover, are forced to hide from drones and high-precision missiles. The success of the operation to liberate Donbass is not a matter of strategy or tactics, it is a matter of logistics and timing.

Nothing new. RF shelling with 60's equipment and "conquering" a land of rubble. There are several things that you got wrong:

- HIMARS is precisely there to fuck up those logistics you describe and with just 4 of them, high value targets have been destroyed. It is clear to anyone that the pace of the offensive has slowed.
- RF can concentrate troops... at the cost of leaving other areas dangerously undefended. There are tiny advances from Ukraine in the South. In themselves they do not mean much, but the fact that there's actually any advance should give you food for thought on how strong the grip on the invaded lands is.

But the biggest caveat is that the tactic is slow and costly. RF cannot maintain and army working at that pace for a long period of time under economic sanctions and certainly will need to convince many of joining an army that has a reputation for not giving a F*k for their soldiers and sending then unprepared and untrained.

Regarding "high precision"... nothing to be shown for that. The technical weaponry exists, but is so limited that makes zero effect. Ukraine has always been ready for air raids and missiles and use the right tactics to minimise the effects of these.

Overall, there is nothing like a "winning strategy" going on at all.
Ukraine still has a whole month to implement its plan for a decisive counterattack on Kherson. Then there will be a referendum, according to the results of which the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions are likely to be reunited with Russia.

Although what am I talking about? Talk about a counterattack on Kherson turned out to be part of an information-psychological operation, in other words, another fakeGrin

Quote
Чи бyлa цe IПCO? Бeзyмoвнo, cьoгoднi вci пyблiчнi кoмeнтapi - цe чacтинa IПCO. Haм пoтpiбнo дeмopaлiзyвaти pociйcькy apмiю. Boни пoвиннi poзyмiти, щo тyт пocтiйнo бyдe тepитopiя вoгню, щo їx тyт бyдyть cпaлювaти. Цe ключoвe.

Those regions will never be Russian. Russian occupiers and their collaborators will be killed, one by one, until the last one is killed or leaves
Ukraine.

Fake? The nine SU-34s in Novofedorovka in Crimea would disagree. They went up like Christmas trees.

Russian 'tourists' are fleeing Kherson and Crimea as we speak. Those who stay will be killed.

End of story.
177  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: August 12, 2022, 01:25:32 AM

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When you need weapons from a foreign country to defend your country from a foreign invasion, you're simply being invaded by the country that is giving you the weapons.

Epic logic. Maybe the best from what I've seen here.
"When you buy a gun from another guy to protect yourself from third guy who want to kill you, means that the guy who sold you gun really killing you!"

Ukraine logic.

"When you get a gun and $$$billions from another guy to murder a third guy, means that the guy who gave you the gun and money is hiring you to do a job for him!"

Cool

More like a gun shop opened a credit account for you, and you can loan/buy whatever weapons you want to defend your home.
178  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: August 09, 2022, 02:54:23 PM
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Ah whataboutism, there's no hypocrisy or double standard that it cannot justify. Weren't you taught that whataboutism cannot apply when creating laws? And is actually called discrimination in law. But i must agree it's a convenient tool to prevent population from questioning any and all laws.

When one country invades and the other says "we don't want your books anymore" it's absurd to claim "discrimination". Come on, master of whataboutism, find us some historic analogy. Like Russian imports of German books during WWII.

If your logic leads you to the following conclusion, think it's safe to say that you're on the wrong side of the argument:
Masha and the Bear = brainwashing children, needs to be censored, require exceptions to import
Mein kampf = totally fine for unlimited circulation without age restriction

That's your conclusion, not sure why you're ascribing that to me. I'm sure there are many bad books issued in countries that Ukraine has good relationships with. I never argued otherwise. It's a tangent that doesn't mean anything in the context of restricting book imports from a country they're at war with.


Certainly the whole argument is ridiculous. Is like asking Israel to make Mein Kampf compulsory reading at school or making Carl Marx a compulsory reading at Texans schools. They somehow keep on insisting that Ukraine should actually be praising and chanting about the main language of the state that is trying to annihilate them. Senseless at all point.

Not censoring all books based on a language != compulsory reading of a specific book, or that anyone needs to praise and chant anything.
Such a stretch, c'mon, you know better than this

Sure, let's make a chapter called "Stalin, the friend of Ukrainians" mandatory reading in Ukrainian schools. We do not want to censor anything do we?

Bratskiy narod, v rot.
179  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ukraine President suspects Treason on: July 22, 2022, 12:03:15 AM
Zelensky didn't accused them collaborating with Russia. Problem is that there is huge number of people who collaborate with Russia in SBU and Prosecutor's Office. It's one of resone why Russia took Kherson so easy without much resistense. And heads of SBU and Prosecutor's Office is responsible for it.
BTW, Ivan Bakanov is old childhood friend of Zelensky, they also worked together in Kvartal 95 Studio.

I think it is safe to say that the special operation to eliminate any anti-Ukrainian elements in Ukraine has started.

Ukraine should have done this in 1991 as the Baltic countries did.

After this Putin's clusterfuck is finished, all pro-Russia terrorists will be eliminated or will leave Ukraine.

I think the Russian zombified population will support him until about 500 thousand Russian men will die (in a few years).
Maybe sooner. Public opinion can change very quickly once the general mobilization is declared.

I think in the end, Ukraine will be cleansed from any pro-Soviet/RF elements which will be good for the future of the country.
180  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: July 21, 2022, 11:50:10 PM
In any case, how is it surprising that Ukraine is protecting its culture from the Nazi attack of Adolf Putin?

This is fun fact: Since russian propaganda and almost all russian butthurting about status of russian language in Ukraine, it seems that they ok with the fact that tatarian language does not have the same status in Tatarstan as russian. From 2017 teaching of tatarian language is not necessary in Tatarstan anymore.


Or another example: https://novayagazeta.ru/news/2021/02/12/167816-v-syktyvkare-ne-smogli-provesti-sud-nad-aktivistom-kotoryy-govoril-tolko-na-komi-yazyke-zasedanie-perenesli-chtoby-nayti-perevodchika

Activist tried to use komi language on court (in Komi Republic) but judge didn't understand this language. You can use link above and play video. Even without knowing the language (russian or komi) you can feel judge's butthurt and complains about the fact that activist didn't want to use "normal language"

Russkies have committed cultural genocide on the Komi peoples. They have decimated them in the last 100 years.

They fuck up every nation they touch. They turn them into alcohol and drug addicts, erase their native culture, bring corruption,
and moral/ethical degradation. Force them to speak Russian and tell them they are 'Russian', all while they treat them as second-class
citizens. Russkiy Fucking Mir.

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