How controversial is the idea that evolution is real, but mankind did not evolve naturally on this planet?  

I am curious how the science community explains away things like Rh- blood types.  Are some of us mutants or aliens?  

Evolution Theory Evolution (ETE) is not simple change, adaptation, or like-begets-like. The two basic areas where these things differ are in the understanding of random, and in cause and effect (C&E).

C&E, which exists all over the place, and throughout everything that we understand, suggests design rather than some form of pure random. ETE tricks people into thinking that random and pure random are the same. But they aren't. Pure random has to do with complete spontaneity. Simple random has to do with our ignorance and inability to track detailed C&E.

ETE is full of simple random. But that we know, there isn't any pure random anywhere. This means that ETE is full of our ignorance and inability to track detailed C&E. So, if we can't track it, how do we even know that it exists? Saying that ETE IS simple change, adaptation, and like-begets-like is just a guess.

Simple random - not knowing - has to do with simple change, adaptation, or like-begets-like, because these things all operate through C&E with no proof for ETE. Pure random doesn't exist at all that we have proven. Even computers that operate on what is called pure random, still have causes for their random effects. ETE has no proof.

Evolution is a hoax.

The Bible commands nobody to do any of those things listed in that picture. How do we know? Those commands were given to one country, to Ancient Israel. Ancient Israel isn't around today. But, when Ancient Israel was commanded, it was for beneficial things, like ridding the earth of the ungodly people. Ancient Israel didn't carry out their marching orders very well, so we have multitudes of liars, like you, around today.

The New Testament is for people today, and it has none of those directions/instructions for people of today. Why not? Because Ancient Israel didn't do the job that they were supposed to do, so God has found something else that works better... preaching.

As you say, the evidence for evolution is overwhelming. However, all the evidence fits simple change, adaptation, and like-begets-like better. So, it is easily seen that evolution is the religion of choice of believers in it. Evolution is religion.

Jesus is the Messiah talked about in the O.T.

The Revelation says that the Rider on the white horse has a name written on him that is "The Word of God"... which is the whole Bible... Jesus in the O.T., and the O.T. in Jesus.

The name Joshua (and variants of it) in the O.T. is the name expressed Jesus in the N.T.

It's about time that you be honest. Take a look at my posts. I totally accept all the evidence that you say I reject. Why do I do this? Because it's the same evidence that shows that things like evolution, BB, age of the earth, black holes, and a whole lot more don't exist as the popular scientific explanation says.

For example. All the evidence that says that Evolution Theory Evolution (ETE) happened, also shows that there was no ETE, but that what happened was simple change, adaptation, and like-begets-like. And these 3 things are way more readily proven than ETE could ever be. The only reason that ETE is accepted is that some people DESIRE to accept it, thereby making ETE a philosophy or religion.

And it's like this for loads of so-called scientific things. Science is all about media when it should be about truth. It's all about manipulating the minds of people, so that the manipulators can make money.

So, my question for you is (one you will never answer honestly), are you part of the science media that is trying to foist lies on people? Or are you simply one of the media believers?

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True and pure religion goes above and beyond simple morality. It goes into extending one's self into loving and helping those in need.
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You are right. We are kinda off topic.

It proves we don't know that BB existed. This changes the only real scientific god-of-creation that we have, to be something that we don't know exists. When average folks realize that we don't know if BB exists, they can be more open minded about looking for God.

your precise calculations might be calculating the wrong thing precisely, like a computer that has rules that are false might calculate a wrong answer. All that it proves is that we are good at using the calculations that we have.

The fact that BB calc shows that the universe was different back then, doesn't really show that math and physics were different. All it shows is that we don't know. Why? Because if math and physics were different a million years ago, we might not get BB using that math instead.

i never said human and zebra. i said monkey and animal.
take for instance a gorilla and a smaller ape. where the species divide was wide enough to cause a noticable variant mutant offspring but close enough species divide to have a viable pregnancy
and i said over many cross breedings.. (just like how dogs got mix bred into new breeds)
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it wasnt just ape+ape single species generational evolution, there was also some mix breeding and survival of the fittest.
because if it was just ape+ape evolution without cross breeding then that other posters saying why are there still apes would have a valid question.
in short
it was cross breeding that bilaterally forked the species chain and created 2 altcoins

It's only been a few hundred years since people knew that there were more elements that earth, air, fire, and water... and the ether, if you want to include space. But atheism goes way back into the past. So, how do we know that we won't find that there is something besides energy that everything is made out of.

For example. We now know that the Big Bang is false. How is it false? We used our modern day math to figure out that there was a BB in the first place. But the existence of such a BB as has been theorized, proves that BB math and physics were different than our modern math, just as the BB universe is different than our universe. We don't have any math or physics example from the way math an physics were even 20,000 years ago. So we certainly don't even know that 20,000 years ago existed in any recognizable way. So, how can we tell that there ever was 3.5 billion years ago... or a BB?

No, slavery wasn't and isn't always wrong. Why do you want to take away the freedom of people so much? Do you think that they are making such a big mistake by using their freedom to voluntarily go into slavery, that you just have to save them from their wrong thinking, before they hurt themselves? So you want to bind people into your slavery by not allowing them to voluntarily go into slavery.

You slaver, you.

The Bible is about Jesus salvation. Nobody is forcing you into salvation. Everybody is allowing you to freely go into the slavery of eternal destruction. But you want to make everybody go into the slavery of destruction, by preaching that the Bible is bad.

You hypocritical slaver, you.

No, the whole Bible was written for everybody. The way it was given to whom it was given shows what parts of it are a law for which people, and which peoples parts of it are not a law for.

The New Testament is law for everybody. But it is a law of love and salvation faith for everybody. In it is found freedom. But such freedom only remains if there is faith and love.

The Darwins theory of evolution is still to be proved but i do believe in evolution. As the climate and condition changed for many eons, the organism adopted to the changes and evolved for survival. Specifically , monkeys who decided to move around and out of trees , evolved during the years as they covered distances in groups and in the process discovered art, sign language, fire, stones and more.

^^^ Outer space is fake, a pressurized atmosphere can't exist next to a vacuum; the earth is covered by a dome. The entirety of the big-bang/heliocentric/globe model is a giant crock of steer manure.

The essence of the Ten Commandments as they are written in the hearts of all people are given to all people.

The official Ten Commandments as they are given in the Bible, were given only to the Ancient Israel people. However, anyone can commit to obeying them.

Go back to injuneering school please.

Anyway, once you are disabused of your rather comical mis-understandings of physics, chemistry, thermodynamics, and basic system analytics:

PETN needs a particular form of energy from a blasting cap to detonate it.  Again, so what?


Edit:  Of course the fusion reaction underway in our sun is not net positive energy.  The reaction only sustains because of energy from God which 'produces hydrogen'.  Just ask BADecker as our resident authority on all things God.

More seriously, the high energy consumption of tokamak reactors was, as I recall, associated with maintianing the magnetic field needed to contain the plasma.  Early experiments required an input of energy to achieve this, and they also did not focus on extraction of energy.  That would come later.

Note that the early diesel engines did 'work', but they did not generate enough power to overcome their own internal friction.  Once the principle was demonstrated they rapidly developed into very useful and serviceable devices indeed.

Ya, that's how almost all reactions work geenyus.  So what?

Read the Bible, before you open your ignorant mouth.

The New Testament, which is for all people today, endorses none of the things you say, above.

But you know this already. The only reason why you fight saying the truth, is because you are generally rebellious against God, your maker.

40 years ago when I was a kid 'they' were getting to the point of having energy neutral reactions in toroid containers as I recal.

I would suggest that if the technology _were_ perfected it would probably be 'held back by the powers that be' for the very purpose you mentioned.  I certainly don't rule out that exactly this has happened.  For all the (fairly well controlled) talk about 'sustainable energy' it is very very rare for people to mention nuclear fusion at all.

To say the truth, I would have my own fears for the planet if fusion were perfected and made available.  This stems back to a time decades ago when I was much more aligned with the 'globalist eugenicist' crowd...because they control education, publishing, etc, and it's what I was indoctrinated with.  Both then and now I was prone to draw a mapping between population densities of organisms and thermodynamics.  I didn't learn this, or to be interested in this, it school though.  I was a science geek from about age 8 or 10 and took and extracurricular interest in such things.

First of all, many philosophers and atheists do not understand that God is the source of all creation, life and love.
God is behind all natural laws, he is the creator of mathematics, physics, science etc.
In the end, God is also the source of ethics and morality, which are unchanging and absolute.
People can create only temporary moral which cannot stand the test of time.
Religion is merely an intermediary between God and men.
And as someone has well noted, what is most fundamental is that God is love and our Heavenly Parent.
God's love was his motivation for creation and the absolute morality he gave us as a guide to life.