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921  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why I'm an atheist on: November 22, 2019, 09:07:20 PM

If you are so vehemently against killing babies why are you accepting the Bible as your moral guide?  You are obviously better than your God when it comes to the issue of killing babies.

Why do you think your God in the Bible is such a primitive, ignorant asshole?  
I'll tell you why.  Because he lived somewhere around 800-2500 BC and did not know better.  

This book that you so cherish as divine is a product of human imagination.
Poorly written ancient tragic soap opera, not worth the paper it is written on.

https://www.christianpost.com/news/moloch-statue-child-sacrifice-colosseum-holy-site-christian-martyrs-233812

As I told you, sometimes it takes killing off the killers.

"Holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy spirit"

Just because some Christians are bad at times, doesn't mean that God is ever bad.

In your lack of recognizing that God exists, you are setting yourself up for destruction. Since you personally aren't doing a lot of destruction, God might spare you for a long time, with the hope that you will recognize Him. But if you don't, your destruction is your choice.

We already have a medical term for this condition, it is called schizophrenia.


When you don't accept the proof that God exists and does what He pleases, it's essentially self-denial.

Cool

I have told you many times, I would accept any proof you can provide.

A selfie with God and a card that says: "BADecker" would do.

A post from God in this thread would be acceptable as well  (please include my ATM card PIN number)
922  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Hoax is a hoax on: November 22, 2019, 09:00:44 PM
If there wasn't any C-14 in the atmosphere back beyond 5,000 years ago
There was.

There are indications that there wasn't anything other than a hint of C-14 in the atmosphere back then.
Only if you believe Answers in Genesis or some similar creationist nonsense. All the actual evidence points to carbon 14 production rates being higher 5,000 years ago than they are today.

Hey, man. Just got back from shopping. But I can't wait to hear the method you used. What was it? Time machine? Simple time viewer; and how did you take the samples back then? Revived a cave scientists frozen in the ice from 5,000 years ago? Ancient aliens? Bible-like books or clay tablets from back then?

Now don't disapoint me with some hogwash circular evidence that says that because we know that there was C-14 back then, that the reliability of carbon-dating shows us exactly how much C-14 there was.

Cool

Are you saying that the chemistry of C-14 was different 5000 years ago?  Electrons behaved differently, filled different configurations, beta decay was occurring at different rates, weak forces were different?

If weak forces were not the same, all known chemistry would not work and you would have no life as observed today (or 5000, or 5M years ago).

I suppose that is possible, but I was referring to the idea that we don't know how much if any C-14 was in the atmosphere back 5000 years ago... like I sorta posted, and you sorta quoted.

Cool

Isn't carbon dating calibrated using things like tree rings to make sure we start with the correct initial content of C14?

If you want to question carbon dating you have to question the actual decay rates, but that will get you nowhere fast.
923  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: November 22, 2019, 08:47:21 PM

Changing your mind based on reliable evidence is a sign of intelligence, IMHO.

In the case of Popes, they are CEOs and they need to react to the changing market conditions or risk further erosion of their revenues.


Still nor proof for evolution, or are you saying that you are changing your mind.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

Of course.  All the time, that is why I am a humanist, atheist and freethinker.
924  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Hoax is a hoax on: November 22, 2019, 08:15:58 PM
If there wasn't any C-14 in the atmosphere back beyond 5,000 years ago
There was.

There are indications that there wasn't anything other than a hint of C-14 in the atmosphere back then.
Only if you believe Answers in Genesis or some similar creationist nonsense. All the actual evidence points to carbon 14 production rates being higher 5,000 years ago than they are today.

Hey, man. Just got back from shopping. But I can't wait to hear the method you used. What was it? Time machine? Simple time viewer; and how did you take the samples back then? Revived a cave scientists frozen in the ice from 5,000 years ago? Ancient aliens? Bible-like books or clay tablets from back then?

Now don't disapoint me with some hogwash circular evidence that says that because we know that there was C-14 back then, that the reliability of carbon-dating shows us exactly how much C-14 there was.

Cool

Are you saying that the chemistry of C-14 was different 5000 years ago?  Electrons behaved differently, filled different configurations, beta decay was occurring at different rates, weak forces were different?

If weak forces were not the same, all known chemistry would not work and you would have no life as observed today (or 5000, or 5M years ago).
925  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: November 22, 2019, 02:50:17 PM
^^^ I know. That's all you have left.

If evolution were scientific, you might have some evidence for it. But since it isn't scientific in its own right, all you have left to promote your evolution religion is, talk in the form of political science.

Why would anyone use political science? Because political science is the science of getting what you want through any means you can, honest or dishonest, true or false, right or wrong. But if you have no other way, then talk, talk, talk. Since evolution has no science of its own, all that's left for it is political science.

Why does God leave this opening for dishonest people? Because He is hoping that they will change and become truthful... find Jesus-salvation, and be saved. The destruction of the soul is no little matter. It's a loss that is dynamically felt in the way that God would feel if He were destroyed.

But, God won the fight against destruction. He won it in Jesus, with the hopes that people would win it as well. Continual talking against God - especially in the face of proof for God - is pushing one's self towards destruction.

So, I guess if you don't change, and continue to look to believe in things false, I will have been part of your greater destruction. Greater because if you had never heard of the proof that God exists, and had never had it explained to you, and simply lived a rather hum-drum evolution-faith life, rather than adamantly believing in a direction against God, your destruction would have been much less. But now that you directly fight God, when the time comes, He will directly fight you.

You still have time. Change while you can. Start by recognizing that evolution is a complete hoax.

Cool

Even Pope conceded that evolution and the Big Bang are real observable facts.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/pope-francis-declares-evolution-and-big-bang-theory-are-right-and-god-isnt-a-magician-with-a-magic-9822514.html

He just put a spin on it that God is behind it. LOL.

If you check through all the Papal Bulls over the whole time of the Catholic Church, you find that Popes are constantly changing their minds (or the Chrch's mind) about all kinds of things. A Pope is a person who has the right to maintain a religion of his choice for himself. And being the leader of a church, he does exactly that. This doesn't make what he says true.

Since you are stating the Pope's ideology, you must believe it to some extent. Still no proof for evolution. Only faith. Evolution is a religion.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

Changing your mind based on reliable evidence is a sign of intelligence, IMHO.

In the case of Popes, they are CEOs and they need to react to the changing market conditions or risk further erosion of their revenues.
926  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Execution method for treason. on: November 22, 2019, 12:57:32 PM
Which do you prefer to watch Trump executed by for treason? He aided and abetted America's enemies.

I'm fond of the noose. It seems most American. Guillotine is too French for me. Lethal injection has problems, and the electric chair seems outdated.

What treason?  What are you talking about?  Last time I checked Ukraine is an ally.

I would not want to watch execution of anyone.

927  Other / Politics & Society / Re: LEGAL "FACTS" MOST PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW, BUT SHOULD on: November 21, 2019, 07:14:57 PM
BADecker, you forgot to add that you also believe that Earth is 6000 years old and that Noah and his wife repopulated Earth after the global flood, about 4000 years ago, also, that people lived 900 years in the biblical times, because the "laws of Physics were different" and "because the entropy was not increasing as much or some other pseudo-scientific shit", and that evolution of life on Earth is a hoax.

Oh, I forgot, you also believe that God is love and that emotions create universes in 6 days flat.

928  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: November 21, 2019, 04:53:18 PM
^^^ I know. That's all you have left.

If evolution were scientific, you might have some evidence for it. But since it isn't scientific in its own right, all you have left to promote your evolution religion is, talk in the form of political science.

Why would anyone use political science? Because political science is the science of getting what you want through any means you can, honest or dishonest, true or false, right or wrong. But if you have no other way, then talk, talk, talk. Since evolution has no science of its own, all that's left for it is political science.

Why does God leave this opening for dishonest people? Because He is hoping that they will change and become truthful... find Jesus-salvation, and be saved. The destruction of the soul is no little matter. It's a loss that is dynamically felt in the way that God would feel if He were destroyed.

But, God won the fight against destruction. He won it in Jesus, with the hopes that people would win it as well. Continual talking against God - especially in the face of proof for God - is pushing one's self towards destruction.

So, I guess if you don't change, and continue to look to believe in things false, I will have been part of your greater destruction. Greater because if you had never heard of the proof that God exists, and had never had it explained to you, and simply lived a rather hum-drum evolution-faith life, rather than adamantly believing in a direction against God, your destruction would have been much less. But now that you directly fight God, when the time comes, He will directly fight you.

You still have time. Change while you can. Start by recognizing that evolution is a complete hoax.

Cool

Even Pope conceded that evolution and the Big Bang are real observable facts.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/pope-francis-declares-evolution-and-big-bang-theory-are-right-and-god-isnt-a-magician-with-a-magic-9822514.html

He just put a spin on it that God is behind it. LOL.
929  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: November 20, 2019, 11:03:17 PM
I believe that evolution is a hoax. Not all things can be explained by science. We are created by God and no one else. If we are from monkeys or gorilla or any other animals as like the scientists said, then who created these animals? Isn't it our God?

What is God and how was it created?

Is this a test? You keep on asking it after people keep on answering you. Maybe you should start a thread. Maybe you should go the PM route.

Cool

Maybe you should buy a clue and answer the question. Instead of saying it is 'love'.

Emotions don't start universes.

I and others have answered. But, just for you, one more time.

God is love. But the kind of love He is, is perfect love. Scientifically or other, nobody understands it. So, nobody knows what God is. We could add things like Father, Creator, Eternal Life... and if you look it up via an Internet search, you can find all kinds of other things that God is. What more do you need?

Are you hiring someone to do your own Net search for you?

How do you know emotions don't start universes? Yours might simply be too weak.

God has no beginning or end. God doesn't have a creator.

If this isn't satisfactory for you, you will need to explain your questions in better detail. And you can do it, because God loves your soul.

Btw, you still haven't shown any proof for evolution. Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

If nobody knows what God is, why are you saying that God is love?

If nobody knows what God is, then why are you believing in something that you cannot even define.

Do you see a problem with your position?  You think you believe in something called God but you don't know what it is.

It is funny that people assign names to things they cannot even describe.  Linguistic failure.

BTW, if God is love, then this God of yours only exists in human brains.  That is where human emotions reside.
930  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: November 20, 2019, 02:24:32 AM
I believe that evolution is a hoax. Not all things can be explained by science. We are created by God and no one else. If we are from monkeys or gorilla or any other animals as like the scientists said, then who created these animals? Isn't it our God?

What is God and how was it created?

Is this a test? You keep on asking it after people keep on answering you. Maybe you should start a thread. Maybe you should go the PM route.

Cool

Maybe you should buy a clue and answer the question. Instead of saying it is 'love'.

Emotions don't start universes.
931  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Hoax is a hoax on: November 20, 2019, 02:15:48 AM


What is God and how was 'He' created?


God is love.

As notbatman said, God was never created, but always exists.

Cool

First of all, you are confused, you insisted that God is a male.  Now it is love. WTF.

More like, God was never created because it never existed until someone called love a God. LOL.

So it is a human emotion, that is what I expected.

If God is love, then it did not exist before human life.  It makes sense.

BTW, why do you guys using a new word for love?

If love is love, why do you need to call it a God?  To scam poor and uneducated people?

PS. Maybe that is why chimpanzees don't organize themselves into religious groups.

Where did I ever insist God is male? But Jesus is male. God is Creator, and Creator is in the direction of male. So, God is God.

God always was love. People have been given love as they were originally made in God's image. So, it is people learning love from God. When people have love, because their love is imperfect love, such love is a human emotion. Nobody knows what the great love of God is really like.

Since you want to twist God into something that He is not, you simply show that you are trying to hide your own guilt. But you can't. You might be able to cover it somewhat. But it will always poke its way through into your consciousness. As you get older, you will not be able to keep it down so easily. As it comes through more and more, you will become bitter, like Voltaire in his later years. Why was he bitter? Because he was unwilling to accept God's Jesus-forgiveness, so that the bitterness could actually dissipate. But hey. Maybe you enjoy being bitter.

Take a look at your posts. Your bitterness is showing. Even though you are reasonably young, it's poking its way through already.

Cool

Here you crossed 'it' and put 'He'.  It was you who did that.


What is God and how was it He created?

The fact that God was not in the universe before He created it, shows that the essence of God is something that we can't know except that He tells us. Why? Because we, being universe beings, can't think in extra-universal terms necessary for knowing anything about God.

However, you ask this question in the wrong thread. This is the thread where we emphatically prove that evolution is a hoax.

I hate to have to hurt all those evolution religion believers' feelings. But it is better that their feelings are hurt here, so that they find God and get saved.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

My original post, which you corrected is here:

...

What is God and how was it created?

BTW, love is a feeling and as such, it cannot physically create anything.  Independent thinking agents can. Dig deeper.
932  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: November 20, 2019, 02:13:02 AM
I believe that evolution is a hoax. Not all things can be explained by science. We are created by God and no one else. If we are from monkeys or gorilla or any other animals as like the scientists said, then who created these animals? Isn't it our God?

What is God and how was it created?
933  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Hoax is a hoax on: November 19, 2019, 11:48:16 PM


What is God and how was 'He' created?


God is love.

As notbatman said, God was never created, but always exists.

Cool

First of all, you are confused, you insisted that God is a male.  Now it is love. WTF.

More like, God was never created because it never existed until someone called love a God. LOL.

So it is a human emotion, that is what I expected.

If God is love, then it did not exist before human life.  It makes sense.

BTW, why do you guys using a new word for love?

If love is love, why do you need to call it a God?  To scam poor and uneducated people?

PS. Maybe that is why chimpanzees don't organize themselves into religious groups.
934  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion and Morality. on: November 19, 2019, 11:42:33 PM

There is nothing to study.  Circumcision is bodily mutilation. Perpetuated by primitive people.


I don't know if you know but in Australia and New Zealand.
 10 to 20% of men are circumcised.
And this is not because there are 10 to 20% of jew ....  those religions are almost nonexistent.
I wouldn't call new zealander or australian primitive

And according to the same source, up to 60% of the american men are also circumcised.
I wouldn't call american primitive people

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The frequency of circumcision varies from country to country. In New Zealand and Australia the rate is approximately 10-20% of boys but as mentioned above there are significant cultural differences. Rates of circumcision, for comparison, are much higher in the USA - up to 60% -, 6% in the UK and in Europe the rate is lower at less than 2% in some countries.

source : http://www.citymed.co.nz/minor-surgeries/circumcision

And how many of them had a say in the matter? None.

People who self mutilate, or mutilate their children are primitive simpletons.

935  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Hoax is a hoax on: November 19, 2019, 07:07:03 PM
No. You brought up engineers - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5198202.msg53078198#msg53078198. But even if I brought it up in a previous post, you continued with it. But now it seems that you are trying to play ignorant. Perhaps you are.
You are saying I brought up engineers, and your evidence is a post in which you bring up engineers and I respond to it?
Evidence is proof that something does happen (like evolution), not proof that it doesn't (like creationsim).


So you read all 500+ pages of that thread. So you see that the scientific proof for God exists... or you don't, and really aren't a scientists at all.
I'll admit I've not read the whole thing. Please could you show me the bit where there is scientific proof that God exists?

We don't have to go there. I showed it to you right here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1917510.msg53112081#msg53112081.

Since your memory is so short, stop reading anti-God literature, and start reading the Bible. Soon you will believe in God, because you will have forgotten all about atheism.

Cool

What is God and how was 'He' created?
936  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion and Morality. on: November 18, 2019, 04:55:12 PM

This ridiculous cult is force-fed to all uneducated people who do not know which primate family they belong to.

https://i.imgur.com/SwkNgeB.jpg

But your forgot to read the rest of the way, or to get an understanding of circumcision.

Abraham was stopped by God from killing his son. But because Abraham trusted God enough to do it, he was venerated by God, and became the father of many nations and peoples... people too numerous to count.

Actually, circumcision on the eighth day is beneficial for causing the immune system of a male child to become wildly active... far stronger than any of the claims made for vaccination by any of the medical. And there is more wonderful benefit to circumcision that I won't go into here.

So you see, as usual you speak out of ignorance, and show that your ignorance is deluding you into stupidity.

Cool

That is simply another of your wild claims.

BTW, circumcision was not started by Jews.  There is physical evidence that Egyptians were practicing it well before written history.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/circumcision

What is next, bloodletting when you get sick to drain the demons out of you?


And we still can't duplicate many of the feats of the ancient Egyptians... at least not with the same kind of primitive methods that they seemed to be using.

Study eighth-day circumcision, and you will find many benefits of it. You speak out of ignorance.

Cool

Still, it does not change the fact that Abraham was a schizophrenic who almost killed his son, as the story goes.

There is nothing to study.  Circumcision is bodily mutilation. Perpetuated by primitive people.
937  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: November 18, 2019, 04:45:48 PM

What is God and how was it He created?

The fact that God was not in the universe before He created it, shows that the essence of God is something that we can't know except that He tells us. Why? Because we, being universe beings, can't think in extra-universal terms necessary for knowing anything about God.

However, you ask this question in the wrong thread. This is the thread where we emphatically prove that evolution is a hoax.

I hate to have to hurt all those evolution religion believers' feelings. But it is better that their feelings are hurt here, so that they find God and get saved.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

You brought up the C&E and the watchmaker argument.  So answer the question.

What is God and how was 'He' created?

PS. I did not know God had a penis, but if you insist, I will go with it.  So we know he has a penis, what else can you tell me about him?
938  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Hoax is a hoax on: November 18, 2019, 04:42:24 PM
If you don't understand that gravity is a work of God, you don't really understand about gravity.
There is no evidence for God!!!

gravity does what it does without having any gravity theory involved. People who are affected by gravity, and want to call the affect "gravity," don't need to understand gravity theory to know that it's gravity.
True. But a benefit of having the scientific explanation is that science advances. If we just relied on the stuff that we can physically witness, without trying to understand what it is and how it works, we'd still be living in caves.

Engineers using physics doesn't have anything to do with engineering. We all use physics all the time for everything that we do. Or do you think that if we aren't engineers, or that engineers themselves, suddenly stop using the physics of the universe? Maybe at death. Is that what you are talking about?
Not sure what you're suggesting. Engineers use physics (and the laws of physics), yes.

Everybody uses physics. Engineers aren't some special class of people who use physics while the rest of the people don't. So, why pick on them or physicists?

There is no proof that science advances with scientific explanations. Why? Because some of the explanations are wrong. And because they are wrong, they get in the way of continued exploration and advancing that would have been done by scientists who believe the wrong explanations, and quit exploration because of it. So, scientific advancements are often more like religion than science.

Search here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.0 and you will find the proof that God exists... if you happen to be enough of a scientist that you know how to apply scientific proof.

Cool

MRCA is used in reference to the ancestry of haplotypes rather than organisms. The people who wrote your proof #65 completely ignored the fact that humans share 4% of Neanderthal DNA.  MRCA for Homo Sapiens lineage is estimated to be around 200,000 years old.  LUCA is estimated to have lived 3.5 to 3.8 billions years ago.

The person who wrote this 'proof' knew diddly squat about human evolution.

Learn a bit more about speciation so that you can read such 'proofs' and understand what you are reading.
939  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: November 18, 2019, 04:16:52 PM
Regarding the existence of God, there is no faith. There is knowledge. The knowledge is based on going beyond 10 to the 40th power regarding some things that are literally impossible without God. It is based on the Machine-Maker of the universe; we have no other evidence of machines coming into existence but by makers.
There is absolutely no knowledge or evidence for God. If you think you have knowledge of something but there is zero evidence for it, then it isn't knowledge, it's faith.
Nothing is proven to be literally impossible without God.
We have huge amounts of evidence of machines, such as humans, coming into existence through evolution, without a maker.
Besides the machine universe having a maker as all machines, there is the proof for God in the fact that when you combine cause-and-effect, entropy and complexity as they are in this universe, there is no other method for the universe to exist other than creation by God.

Throw handfuls of element dust into the air for a hundred years. Nature will never make anything approaching the complexity of life out of any of it. There has to be design, and nature isn't intelligent, so it can't design things. Accidents don't make complexity, or can you show us some accidental complexity and prove it was accidental?



And there is the complexity of what exists... the knowledge that the more complex the machine, the more capable the maker.
Evolution. Complexity can and does evolve over time. Things like eyeballs didn't suddenly spring into existence, they started as slightly light-sensitive skin. Evolution takes huge amounts of time.
That's a nice story that you have there. But you don't have any proof that the so-called various stages of eye development in the animals in nature, weren't created by God to be just this way. But we have lots of evidence that they were created by God to be the way they are, rather than stages in changing development. What is our evidence? Like beget like. Their offspring are the same as their parents regarding eye development, and development in the rest of their bodies.

So far, nobody has proven that changes are anything other than simple change, adaptation, or like-begets-like. This doesn't mean that we can't create something in the lab. But in nature, there is nothing like evolution.



If FSM can be shown to have been able to make the machine universe, then the FSM might be God. The point is that God exists.
Yes, if FSM can be shown to have made the universe I will accept (but not worship) it as God. The point is we have zero evidence.

The FSM has no God-description behind it. It is an idol set up by people, with no methods or evidence for the claims the people make about it.

Whatever God really is, such is shown that God exists through the methods described in my first response, above.

All that anybody has for evolution-theory-evolution is talk... a fun science fiction story. There is evidence for it that fits other things better. And there is no proof at all. Believing in evolution is religious belief.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

What is God and how was it created?
940  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion and Morality. on: November 18, 2019, 04:11:27 PM

This ridiculous cult is force-fed to all uneducated people who do not know which primate family they belong to.

https://i.imgur.com/SwkNgeB.jpg

But your forgot to read the rest of the way, or to get an understanding of circumcision.

Abraham was stopped by God from killing his son. But because Abraham trusted God enough to do it, he was venerated by God, and became the father of many nations and peoples... people too numerous to count.

Actually, circumcision on the eighth day is beneficial for causing the immune system of a male child to become wildly active... far stronger than any of the claims made for vaccination by any of the medical. And there is more wonderful benefit to circumcision that I won't go into here.

So you see, as usual you speak out of ignorance, and show that your ignorance is deluding you into stupidity.

Cool

That is simply another of your wild claims.

BTW, circumcision was not started by Jews.  There is physical evidence that Egyptians were practicing it well before written history.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/circumcision

What is next, bloodletting when you get sick to drain the demons out of you?
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