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I will say a few words about the "barrage of fire" tactics, which the allied forces of Russia and the LDNR used to break into the fortified areas in Avdiivka. This is an old trick from the times of the First World War, which the Russian Army masters to perfection. To use it successfully, you need good logistics, because you will need to spend a huge amount of artillery shells and multiple launch rocket systems. Russia is now spending about 5,000 tons of artillery shells per day in Ukraine on the use of a "barrage of fire" (not counting high-precision missiles). For each unarmored target in the Donbass, 300-500 shells are spent. After such artillery preparation, assault detachments with the support of armored vehicles go into battle, usually formed according to the national principle (Tuvans, Buryats, Chechens, etc.), which use their native language in radio communications, which provides additional protection against radio interception. If the assault squads meet strong resistance, they move back and artillery again works on the identified positions. Such tactics make it possible to successfully advance without numerical superiority and with minimal losses (but with an increased consumption of artillery shells).
That's why 50 or even 100 HIMARS can't turn the tide of this operation. Russia can concentrate 10-15 divisions of howitzers and MLRS on a small sector of the front, and they plow everything with cheap shells and unguided rockets. And Ukraine can oppose only 1-2 divisions, which, moreover, are forced to hide from drones and high-precision missiles. The success of the operation to liberate Donbass is not a matter of strategy or tactics, it is a matter of logistics and timing.
Nothing new. RF shelling with 60's equipment and "conquering" a land of rubble. There are several things that you got wrong: - HIMARS is precisely there to fuck up those logistics you describe and with just 4 of them, high value targets have been destroyed. It is clear to anyone that the pace of the offensive has slowed. - RF can concentrate troops... at the cost of leaving other areas dangerously undefended. There are tiny advances from Ukraine in the South. In themselves they do not mean much, but the fact that there's actually any advance should give you food for thought on how strong the grip on the invaded lands is. But the biggest caveat is that the tactic is slow and costly. RF cannot maintain and army working at that pace for a long period of time under economic sanctions and certainly will need to convince many of joining an army that has a reputation for not giving a F*k for their soldiers and sending then unprepared and untrained. Regarding "high precision"... nothing to be shown for that. The technical weaponry exists, but is so limited that makes zero effect. Ukraine has always been ready for air raids and missiles and use the right tactics to minimise the effects of these. Overall, there is nothing like a "winning strategy" going on at all. Ukraine still has a whole month to implement its plan for a decisive counterattack on Kherson. Then there will be a referendum, according to the results of which the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions are likely to be reunited with Russia. Although what am I talking about? Talk about a counterattack on Kherson turned out to be part of an information-psychological operation, in other words, another fake. Чи бyлa цe IПCO? Бeзyмoвнo, cьoгoднi вci пyблiчнi кoмeнтapi - цe чacтинa IПCO. Haм пoтpiбнo дeмopaлiзyвaти pociйcькy apмiю. Boни пoвиннi poзyмiти, щo тyт пocтiйнo бyдe тepитopiя вoгню, щo їx тyт бyдyть cпaлювaти. Цe ключoвe. Those regions will never be Russian. Russian occupiers and their collaborators will be killed, one by one, until the last one is killed or leaves Ukraine. Fake? The nine SU-34s in Novofedorovka in Crimea would disagree. They went up like Christmas trees. Russian 'tourists' are fleeing Kherson and Crimea as we speak. Those who stay will be killed. End of story.
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August 12, 2022, 11:37:56 AM |
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"When you get a gun and $$$billions from another guy to murder a third guy, means that the guy who gave you the gun and money is hiring you to do a job for him!"
Ah, so this troll means that this is Ukraine attacked russia, lol. Great dissociation with reality. russia attacked Ukraine on February 24th, but again, this is Ukraine fault and Ukraine should reject USA weapons (for what reason, to convince such trolls as BADecker in smth? Lol) P.S:This is good that such trolls are in my ignore list and I can see them only trough quotes. Fake? The nine SU-34s in Novofedorovka in Crimea would disagree. They went up like Christmas trees.
Also few russian Su24M. In near future russia will be left even without 4++ jets. For good I think
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"When you get a gun and $$$billions from another guy to murder a third guy, means that the guy who gave you the gun and money is hiring you to do a job for him!"
Ah, so this troll means that this is Ukraine attacked russia, lol. Great dissociation with reality. russia attacked Ukraine on February 24th, but again, this is Ukraine fault and Ukraine should reject USA weapons (for what reason, to convince such trolls as BADecker in smth? Lol) So, johhnyUA dumbo would like us to conveniently forget all the killing and property damage that the Ukraine military did in the Donbas area since 2014 against Russians and Ukrainians living there. Note that this is when the US first installed, through CIA manipulations, regimes in Ukraine that the people weren't in favor of. The so-called war started way back then by the Ukraine US puppet governments, trying to irritate Russia by messing with its citizens, just to push Russia into a formal war. Russia's response looks like war, but if you check the signing off that Putin did on the UN Charter, Article 51, it's merely a police action designed to correct the US/Ukraine puppet government. johhnyUA the propagandist.
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August 12, 2022, 03:18:11 PM |
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all the killing and property damage that the Ukraine military did in the Donbas area since 2014
They must have sucked at it because Putin's army came in 2022 and still found entire cities full of people to raze and to kill.
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August 12, 2022, 03:31:42 PM |
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all the killing and property damage that the Ukraine military did in the Donbas area since 2014
They must have sucked at it because Putin's army came in 2022 and still found entire cities full of people to raze and to kill. And then, since the Russian military was finally there, the Ukrainian military started killing more people and razing the cities in a fury... until the Russian military drove them out.
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August 12, 2022, 06:24:59 PM |
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all the killing and property damage that the Ukraine military did in the Donbas area since 2014
They must have sucked at it because Putin's army came in 2022 and still found entire cities full of people to raze and to kill. Also fun fact: Only after the war started donbass citizens were left without water and electricity - https://t.me/RottenKepkenChannel/19025I think this maybe one of the best "protection and liberation" in modern history. People now lives in medieval. From the perspective of view of local trolls and idiots this is true "liberation"
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August 12, 2022, 09:55:05 PM |
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all the killing and property damage that the Ukraine military did in the Donbas area since 2014
They must have sucked at it because Putin's army came in 2022 and still found entire cities full of people to raze and to kill. Also fun fact: Only after the war started donbass citizens were left without water and electricity - https://t.me/RottenKepkenChannel/19025I think this maybe one of the best "protection and liberation" in modern history. People now lives in medieval. From the perspective of view of local trolls and idiots this is true "liberation" Think about how stupid you are sounding. The Donbas area is not some tiny area off in the Ural Mountains somewhere. It's a big area, along with other areas south of it, that the Russians have liberated. If people are too stupid now, to fix their own water and electricity, they were always too stupid to have any in the first place. Russians aren't stopping them from fixing their electricity and water. They are even helping them by protecting them from the rebel Ukraine military. If the people don't want to fix their own water and electricity, and rebuild their own cities and homes that the Ukraine military destroyed, that's up to them. They have the ability to do either, to fix or not fix... or they never had these things in the first place, and might as well go back an live in caves like their ancient ancestors.
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all the killing and property damage that the Ukraine military did in the Donbas area since 2014
They must have sucked at it because Putin's army came in 2022 and still found entire cities full of people to raze and to kill. Also fun fact: Only after the war started donbass citizens were left without water and electricity - https://t.me/RottenKepkenChannel/19025I think this maybe one of the best "protection and liberation" in modern history. People now lives in medieval. From the perspective of view of local trolls and idiots this is true "liberation" Think about how stupid you are sounding. The Donbas area is not some tiny area off in the Ural Mountains somewhere. It's a big area, along with other areas south of it, that the Russians have liberated. If people are too stupid now, to fix their own water and electricity, they were always too stupid to have any in the first place. Russians aren't stopping them from fixing their electricity and water. They are even helping them by protecting them from the rebel Ukraine military. If the people don't want to fix their own water and electricity, and rebuild their own cities and homes that the Ukraine military destroyed, that's up to them. They have the ability to do either, to fix or not fix... or they never had these things in the first place, and might as well go back an live in caves like their ancient ancestors. Russia liberated jack squat. They are occupying some Ukrainian territories. They killed some native population, some civilians left voluntarily to territories controlled by the Ukrainian army, some were forcefully deported to Russia. They hunted down all Ukrainian men of Donbas and forced them into DNR 'army'. They are used as cannon fodder on the front lines to detect the location of Ukrainian positions. They don't even count them, or exchange POWs. Donetsk is a ghost town now. No men in the streets. Liberation my ass. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcH5KqC5X34
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Think about how stupid you are sounding. The Donbas area is not some tiny area off in the Ural Mountains somewhere. It's a big area, along with other areas south of it, that the Russians have liberated. If people are too stupid now, to fix their own water and electricity, they were always too stupid to have any in the first place. Russians aren't stopping them from fixing their electricity and water. They are even helping them by protecting them from the rebel Ukraine military. If the people don't want to fix their own water and electricity, and rebuild their own cities and homes that the Ukraine military destroyed, that's up to them. They have the ability to do either, to fix or not fix... or they never had these things in the first place, and might as well go back an live in caves like their ancient ancestors. Russia liberated jack squat. ... I didn't even know Jack Squat was Ukrainian.
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Think about how stupid you are sounding. The Donbas area is not some tiny area off in the Ural Mountains somewhere. It's a big area, along with other areas south of it, that the Russians have liberated. If people are too stupid now, to fix their own water and electricity, they were always too stupid to have any in the first place. Russians aren't stopping them from fixing their electricity and water. They are even helping them by protecting them from the rebel Ukraine military. If the people don't want to fix their own water and electricity, and rebuild their own cities and homes that the Ukraine military destroyed, that's up to them. They have the ability to do either, to fix or not fix... or they never had these things in the first place, and might as well go back an live in caves like their ancient ancestors. Russia liberated jack squat. ... I didn't even know Jack Squat was Ukrainian. What is your native language?
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Those regions will never be Russian. Russian occupiers and their collaborators will be killed, one by one, until the last one is killed or leaves Ukraine.
Fake? The nine SU-34s in Novofedorovka in Crimea would disagree. They went up like Christmas trees.
Russian 'tourists' are fleeing Kherson and Crimea as we speak. Those who stay will be killed.
End of story.
No, no, no... that is fake news. It was just another soldier of the glorious RF army that was a bit nervous and decided to go for a cigarette, but forgot that he should not do it right beside the fuel tanks and munitions depots of the base. HIMARs does not have anything to do with it, Ukraine's army has nothing to do with it. Just as the RF left Snake Island as an act of goodwill towards the Ukrainians. Now, a solution that matches the natural skills and readiness of the glorious RF army is already on their way. Nearly 1000 "do not smoke here" signs have been sent to all the munitions depots and airbases that are now in range of a Ukrainian precision strike served by soldiers that smoke. That solves the issue. Done.
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non-smoking signs are not working as expected. Crimea has suffered some mysterious explosions in fuel depots, electric facilities and military basis. Since all HIMARS have been destroyed by "precision-posting" from the Kremlin trolls on this thread, there has to be another explanation for all these. Maybe is the heat of summer that is making things explode, that must be it. The RF should now consider sending cooling equipment to the front.
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non-smoking signs are not working as expected. Crimea has suffered some mysterious explosions in fuel depots, electric facilities and military basis. Since all HIMARS have been destroyed by "precision-posting" from the Kremlin trolls on this thread, there has to be another explanation for all these. Maybe is the heat of summer that is making things explode, that must be it. The RF should now consider sending cooling equipment to the front.
Recently, against the backdrop of dramatic failures in the Donbas, Ukraine has stepped up terrorist activities - the shelling of the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant and the explosions of sabotage groups in the Crimea. This activity is aimed at creating a media effect in order to restore interest in Ukraine in the West, but it can also completely discredit Ukraine in the eyes of the West.
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August 17, 2022, 05:01:57 AM |
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non-smoking signs are not working as expected. Crimea has suffered some mysterious explosions in fuel depots, electric facilities and military basis. Since all HIMARS have been destroyed by "precision-posting" from the Kremlin trolls on this thread, there has to be another explanation for all these. Maybe is the heat of summer that is making things explode, that must be it. The RF should now consider sending cooling equipment to the front.
Recently, against the backdrop of dramatic failures in the Donbas, Ukraine has stepped up terrorist activities - the shelling of the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant and the explosions of sabotage groups in the Crimea. This activity is aimed at creating a media effect in order to restore interest in Ukraine in the West, but it can also completely discredit Ukraine in the eyes of the West. Not to worry, as long as Russians are dying in droves, everything is going according to Putin's plan. LOL. The proverbial 'heavy smoker' who sank the Moskva cruiser swam to Crimea and now he is smoking his cigarettes all over Crimea. Russians will be dying as long as they stay in Ukraine. End of story. Oil is at 87, once we get to 65-70, Putin will have to dip into his 300B war chest to fund the government, AND the war. EU/US/UK visa restrictions for Russians are coming, they will be followed by the criminalization of pro-Russian support in the West, and I am guessing asset confiscations, revocations of residencies and citizenships, and eventually deportations back to mother Russia. So pack your bags. Bundesnachrichtendienst will be knocking on your doors soon.
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non-smoking signs are not working as expected. Crimea has suffered some mysterious explosions in fuel depots, electric facilities and military basis. Since all HIMARS have been destroyed by "precision-posting" from the Kremlin trolls on this thread, there has to be another explanation for all these. Maybe is the heat of summer that is making things explode, that must be it. The RF should now consider sending cooling equipment to the front.
Recently, against the backdrop of dramatic failures in the Donbas, Ukraine has stepped up terrorist activities - the shelling of the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant and the explosions of sabotage groups in the Crimea. This activity is aimed at creating a media effect in order to restore interest in Ukraine in the West, but it can also completely discredit Ukraine in the eyes of the West. Not to worry, as long as Russians are dying in droves, everything is going according to Putin's plan. LOL. The proverbial 'heavy smoker' who sank the Moskva cruiser swam to Crimea and now he is smoking his cigarettes all over Crimea. Russians will be dying as long as they stay in Ukraine. End of story. Oil is at 87, once we get to 65-70, Putin will have to dip into his 300B war chest to fund the government, AND the war. EU/US/UK visa restrictions for Russians are coming, they will be followed by the criminalization of pro-Russian support in the West, and I am guessing asset confiscations, revocations of residencies and citizenships, and eventually deportations back to mother Russia. So pack your bags. Bundesnachrichtendienst will be knocking on your doors soon. I recommend that you familiarize yourself with the recent project of the Central Bank of Russia MAIN DIRECTIONS OF THE UNIFIED OF THE STATE MONETARY AND CREDIT POLICIES FOR 2023 AND THE PERIOD 2024 AND 2025. The link is a very interesting document considering the base scenario and two alternatives (Global Crisis and Accelerated Adaptation). The link is a very interesting document considering the base scenario and two alternatives (Global Crisis and Accelerated Adaptation). In short, the people's welfare fund allows you to finance a federal budget deficit of 20% for three years without the threat of its complete depletion, even in the worst-case scenario. Don't expect Putin to run out of money.
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non-smoking signs are not working as expected. Crimea has suffered some mysterious explosions in fuel depots, electric facilities and military basis. Since all HIMARS have been destroyed by "precision-posting" from the Kremlin trolls on this thread, there has to be another explanation for all these. Maybe is the heat of summer that is making things explode, that must be it. The RF should now consider sending cooling equipment to the front.
Recently, against the backdrop of dramatic failures in the Donbas, Ukraine has stepped up terrorist activities - the shelling of the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant and the explosions of sabotage groups in the Crimea. Don't forget targeting Ukrainian POW's with HIMARS, and blanketing civilian areas with butterfly mines (which they had sworn under weapons convention treaties to have gotten rid of) on their last chance before being run out of Adivika (or whatever it is called.) I am not the least bit surprised that they would try to catch a spent fuel pool on fire and make a Fukushima out of parts of the former Ukraine. I try really hard not to dehumanize populations because doing so tends to lead to atrocities, but the so-called 'Ukrainians' are really making it difficult for me. Likewise the team of 'social media influences' here on this thread. As for Crimea, nobody buys the idea that the Ukroids have anywhere near the sophistication to pull some of that off, and even if they did they'd just sell the equipment earmarked for the job. Rumor is that it's mainly the British. The U.S. is more a money-pump than an active player in the planning or execution of any meaningful military activity. This activity is aimed at creating a media effect in order to restore interest in Ukraine in the West, but it can also completely discredit Ukraine in the eyes of the West.
Doubt that ANYTHING could do that due to the caliber of people we are talking about, and the power of the mainstream media. The only hope is that the so-called 'vaccine' takes a giant bite out of the NPC ballast that the neocons, and more generally the NWO, is riding forward on. Only then will there be some hope.
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non-smoking signs are not working as expected. Crimea has suffered some mysterious explosions in fuel depots, electric facilities and military basis. Since all HIMARS have been destroyed by "precision-posting" from the Kremlin trolls on this thread, there has to be another explanation for all these. Maybe is the heat of summer that is making things explode, that must be it. The RF should now consider sending cooling equipment to the front.
Recently, against the backdrop of dramatic failures in the Donbas, Ukraine has stepped up terrorist activities - the shelling of the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant and the explosions of sabotage groups in the Crimea. Don't forget targeting Ukrainian POW's with HIMARS, and blanketing civilian areas with butterfly mines (which they had sworn under weapons convention treaties to have gotten rid of) on their last chance before being run out of Adivika (or whatever it is called.) ... Another lie after lie, "butterfly mines" have been used just by the RF and there is abundant proof of it (it cannot be hidden, there are photographs all over. HIMARS is simply not a platform that can be used to kill people in-masse, it is just useless for such a purpose. It just delivers a precision strike on object that are critical and expensive and that is exactly what is being done. We are talking real precision, not RF "precision". Depots, critical war infrastructure... non-smoking signs are not working as expected. Crimea has suffered some mysterious explosions in fuel depots, electric facilities and military basis. Since all HIMARS have been destroyed by "precision-posting" from the Kremlin trolls on this thread, there has to be another explanation for all these. Maybe is the heat of summer that is making things explode, that must be it. The RF should now consider sending cooling equipment to the front.
Recently, against the backdrop of dramatic failures in the Donbas, Ukraine has stepped up terrorist activities - the shelling of the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant and the explosions of sabotage groups in the Crimea. This activity is aimed at creating a media effect in order to restore interest in Ukraine in the West, but it can also completely discredit Ukraine in the eyes of the West. Not to worry, as long as Russians are dying in droves, everything is going according to Putin's plan. LOL. The proverbial 'heavy smoker' who sank the Moskva cruiser swam to Crimea and now he is smoking his cigarettes all over Crimea. Russians will be dying as long as they stay in Ukraine. End of story. Oil is at 87, once we get to 65-70, Putin will have to dip into his 300B war chest to fund the government, AND the war. EU/US/UK visa restrictions for Russians are coming, they will be followed by the criminalization of pro-Russian support in the West, and I am guessing asset confiscations, revocations of residencies and citizenships, and eventually deportations back to mother Russia. So pack your bags. Bundesnachrichtendienst will be knocking on your doors soon. I recommend that you familiarize yourself with the recent project of the Central Bank of Russia MAIN DIRECTIONS OF THE UNIFIED OF THE STATE MONETARY AND CREDIT POLICIES FOR 2023 AND THE PERIOD 2024 AND 2025. The link is a very interesting document considering the base scenario and two alternatives (Global Crisis and Accelerated Adaptation). The link is a very interesting document considering the base scenario and two alternatives (Global Crisis and Accelerated Adaptation). In short, the people's welfare fund allows you to finance a federal budget deficit of 20% for three years without the threat of its complete depletion, even in the worst-case scenario. Don't expect Putin to run out of money. Putin will not run out of money, he can always use the Stalin method: Holodomor - steal from any of the non-Russian regions and use it. I would advise you to familiarise yourself with cooking rice and potatoes. You are going to be eating plenty of it.
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Recently, against the backdrop of dramatic failures in the Donbas, Ukraine has stepped up terrorist activities - the shelling of the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant and the explosions of sabotage groups in the Crimea.
Don't forget targeting Ukrainian POW's with HIMARS, and blanketing civilian areas with butterfly mines (which they had sworn under weapons convention treaties to have gotten rid of) on their last chance before being run out of Adivika (or whatever it is called.) I am not the least bit surprised that they would try to catch a spent fuel pool on fire and make a Fukushima out of parts of the former Ukraine. I try really hard not to dehumanize populations because doing so tends to lead to atrocities, but the so-called 'Ukrainians' are really making it difficult for me. Likewise the team of 'social media influences' here on this thread. As for Crimea, nobody buys the idea that the Ukroids have anywhere near the sophistication to pull some of that off, and even if they did they'd just sell the equipment earmarked for the job. Rumor is that it's mainly the British. The U.S. is more a money-pump than an active player in the planning or execution of any meaningful military activity. Another lie after lie, "butterfly mines" have been used just by the RF and there is abundant proof of it (it cannot be hidden, there are photographs all over. HIMARS is simply not a platform that can be used to kill people in-masse, it is just useless for such a purpose. It just delivers a precision strike on object that are critical and expensive and that is exactly what is being done. We are talking real precision, not RF "precision". Ukraine did the Ukroid POW's with HIMARS and the indeed did achieve quite a high KIA. And yes, the accuracy is pretty impressive. The trouble is the destructive power of the things against non-humans is lacking. They made an impressive line of marks on the bridge in the South. The trouble is that traffic just kept right on flowing past the marks in the middle lane of the roadway. The 'pedal' mines the ziocon directors used on civilians in Donesk were deployed as cartridges from normal artillery pieces. That's probably why they used them since they were close to be being run out of range and not able to complete the desired goal of razing the entire city. Most countries agreed to get rid of such munitions in case some cretins took power and used them against civilians. Ukraine stated they had disposed of them as per treaty but, as usual, they were lying out their ass. A pedal mine barrage is not a particularly lethal thing and not meant to be. Probably few if any soldiers will die (even if they were going 'full-Ukroid' and using human shields.) The goal is to slow down forces. It worked in Donesk only because the RF took a little break to help out the newly liberated people. To the degree that people die from these anti-personnel mines, it is usually kids and animals long after the battles have move on (in a Western direction in this case.) The Ukrainians seemed to have used them simply as a vengeance weapon against the civilians because it's to hard to try to kill the opposing military persons and also because, I guess, that's just how Ukrainians roll. Pretty disgusting really. As for 'RF precision', I've seen a fair amount to be impressed by. Couple of quick examples for your viewing pleasure: The precision of these artillery strikes is amazing https://www.bitchute.com/video/hVYbh5WASVmr/ HOW MANY TIMES DID THE RUSSIANS TELL YOU NOT TO FUCK WITH THEM https://www.bitchute.com/video/xpnyDPN6j09D/The Russian seem to be teaching NATO some very valuable lessons about artillery in this 'special military operation'. ...meanwhile NATO is teaching the rest of the world how to ethnically cleanse undesirables from a country (Ukraine of Ukrainians) while making barges full of money in the process.
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Another day - another "bavovna" in Crimea. It seems to have reached Kerch, which is near the infamous bridge. Any day now
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